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C4 Karura
01-09-2010, 08:53 PM
Okay, so everyone is thinking there's going to be a filler arc coming up in a few episodes, due to some Episode titles with uncertain meanings, and a trailer for it on Youtube. I hadn't really believed until I saw the video. It's really good. I started thinking there would be an arc. However, then I realized something. Whenever Akatsuki seals one of the Beasts, one of the eyes on the statue gets a pupil. What eyes are filled, and when, in the manga, is irrelevent. After all, they changed the part where they sealed the Two-Tails and the Three-Tails in the "Immortal Pair Arc", to just sealing the Two-Tails, and only the eye for the Two-Tails being filled. (This was so they could do the Three-Tails filler arc.) Then, in the part after the filler arc, in the anime, they changed the sealing of the Four-Tails to the sealing of the Three and Four tails. They also had the Three-Tails eye filled in at this point. (Note: The number of tails does not correspond with it's position among the eyes. The First-Tail eye is the second in the first row. They're essentially random.)


Anyway, the stuff that matters is when they've shown the eyes in the anime. I've included enough to prove my point.

Y=Pupil shown to be there
N=Pupil shown to not be there
u=Eye not shown clearly enough, due to the face being shown at an angle

In Episode 83 these eyes are shown:
Y Y Y u
N
Y Y N u

Here's Episode 121:
u Y Y N
N
u Y Y Y

Therefore, these are the eyes we know are filled in the anime:
Y Y Y N
N
Y Y Y Y

There are only two eyes left unfilled. We know those are the Eight and Nine-Tails. Therefore, it's impossible for the Six-Tails to be around, and interacting with Naruto, as shown in the video. Sorry, people who were looking forward to that arc. (I kind of was, too.)

Cyl
01-09-2010, 08:56 PM
Okay, so everyone is thinking there's going to be a filler arc coming up in a few episodes, due to some Episode titles with uncertain meanings, and a trailer for it on Youtube. I hadn't really believed until I saw the video. It's really good. I started thinking there would be an arc. However, then I realized something. Whenever Akatsuki seals one of the Beasts, one of the eyes on the statue gets a pupil. What eyes are filled, and when, in the manga, is irrelevent. After all, they changed the part where they sealed the Two-Tails and the Three-Tails in the "Immortal Pair Arc", to just sealing the Two-Tails, and only the eye for the Two-Tails being filled. (This was so they could do the Three-Tails filler arc.) Then, in the part after the filler arc, in the anime, they changed the sealing of the Four-Tails to the sealing of the Three and Four tails. They also had the Three-Tails eye filled in at this point. (Note: The number of tails does not correspond with it's position among the eyes. The First-Tail eye is the second in the first row. They're essentially random.)


Anyway, the stuff that matters is when they've shown the eyes in the anime. I've included enough to prove my point.

Y=Pupil shown to be there
N=Pupil shown to not be there
u=Eye not shown clearly enough, due to the face being shown at an angle

In Episode 83 these eyes are shown:
Y Y Y u
N
Y Y N u

Here's Episode 121:
u Y Y N
N
u Y Y Y

Therefore, these are the eyes we know are filled in the anime:
Y Y Y N
N
Y Y Y Y

There are only two eyes left unfilled. We know those are the Eight and Nine-Tails. Therefore, it's impossible for the Six-Tails to be around, and interacting with Naruto, as shown in the video. Sorry, people who were looking forward to that arc. (I kind of was, too.)

This could take place before this happened. Just like how Kakashi Gaiden took place in the past with Minato was alive.

Hidden Ninja45
01-09-2010, 09:14 PM
I saw the video preview for it on Youtube. Plus, the series is full of plotholes and things that don't add up. It's still possible. Only time will tell who is correct.

Sai9497
01-09-2010, 09:32 PM
Okay, so everyone is thinking there's going to be a filler arc coming up in a few episodes, due to some Episode titles with uncertain meanings, and a trailer for it on Youtube. I hadn't really believed until I saw the video. It's really good. I started thinking there would be an arc. However, then I realized something. Whenever Akatsuki seals one of the Beasts, one of the eyes on the statue gets a pupil. What eyes are filled, and when, in the manga, is irrelevent. After all, they changed the part where they sealed the Two-Tails and the Three-Tails in the "Immortal Pair Arc", to just sealing the Two-Tails, and only the eye for the Two-Tails being filled. (This was so they could do the Three-Tails filler arc.) Then, in the part after the filler arc, in the anime, they changed the sealing of the Four-Tails to the sealing of the Three and Four tails. They also had the Three-Tails eye filled in at this point. (Note: The number of tails does not correspond with it's position among the eyes. The First-Tail eye is the second in the first row. They're essentially random.)


Anyway, the stuff that matters is when they've shown the eyes in the anime. I've included enough to prove my point.

Y=Pupil shown to be there
N=Pupil shown to not be there
u=Eye not shown clearly enough, due to the face being shown at an angle

In Episode 83 these eyes are shown:
Y Y Y u
N
Y Y N u

Here's Episode 121:
u Y Y N
N
u Y Y Y

Therefore, these are the eyes we know are filled in the anime:
Y Y Y N
N
Y Y Y Y

There are only two eyes left unfilled. We know those are the Eight and Nine-Tails. Therefore, it's impossible for the Six-Tails to be around, and interacting with Naruto, as shown in the video. Sorry, people who were looking forward to that arc. (I kind of was, too.)


In the most recent episode, Tobi said they need to capture 3 more Bijuu those are the, 6 tails, 8 tails, and 9 tails.

Originally they only need 2 more but for some reason they didn't want to follow the manga

C4 Karura
01-09-2010, 10:42 PM
Whether they follow the manga or not isn't the point. The point is that if they do this arc, it will create a major continuity error in the anime. Anyway, I also saw Episode 142 on Youtube, with Tobi saying there were three left. That's what made me certain there would be this arc. However, after I found this thing about the eyes, I thought it had just been mistranslated. Oh, well. Maybe they'll come up with some convenient explanation for why the Six-Tails eye was filled, even though they don't have it yet.

Hidden Ninja45
01-09-2010, 10:45 PM
In the most recent episode, Tobi said they need to capture 3 more Bijuu those are the, 6 tails, 8 tails, and 9 tails.

Originally they only need 2 more but for some reason they didn't want to follow the manga
They must not be following the manga just so they could do this filler arc coming up. I thought the 7 tails would be the one not done captured yet, but I guess it must be the 6 tails.

Vatanui AKA Pride
01-09-2010, 10:46 PM
It's likely a plot-hole.

熊手忍者
01-10-2010, 12:04 AM
Yeah when Madara said there were three left, I did a double take.
My memory is really really bad, so I wasn't sure if I heard him right haha

Cyberman
01-10-2010, 06:06 AM
In the anime, after the sealing of the Two-Tailed Monster Cat, Pain stated there are four tailed beasts remaining. Later in the anime after the Three-Tailed Giant Turtle and Four-Tailed Monkey were sealed (making it two tailed beasts remaining) and Taka joins forces with Akatsuki, Kisame states there are three tailed beasts remaining even though half of the remaining four were sealed.I am confused about that.Probably becouse this upcoming six tailed filler arc.They making mistake just beacuse filler arc

C4 Karura
01-10-2010, 06:56 AM
It's likely a plot-hole.

In the anime, after the sealing of the Two-Tailed Monster Cat, Pain stated there are four tailed beasts remaining. Later in the anime after the Three-Tailed Giant Turtle and Four-Tailed Monkey were sealed (making it two tailed beasts remaining) and Taka joins forces with Akatsuki, Kisame states there are three tailed beasts remaining even though half of the remaining four were sealed.I am confused about that.Probably becouse this upcoming six tailed filler arc.They making mistake just beacuse filler arc
THANK YOU for getting what I was talking about.

Kuroda Taishi
01-10-2010, 09:35 AM
It is a plothole, there will be a six tails filler arc.

C4 Karura
01-10-2010, 01:05 PM
Sigh... Hopefully they'll come up with a plausible explanation for why Akatsuki thought they had extracted the Six-Tails.

Hidan
01-10-2010, 01:15 PM
It's plot hole, they had not come up with the filler idea until after the episode where they seal the 3 and 4 tails, as well I know some japanese, they translated it correctly. As well theres really no need for an explanation, they sometimes can just animate things wrong, such as giving Hidan Deidara's headband

Also another example of a Plot Hole is that the Curse Mark originated from Jugo, and Anko has it, she is 6 years older than Jugo, about 16 years before hand she was Orochimaru's apprentice (because 16 years before Orochimaru had defected from Konoha and joined Akatsuki) and she had the Curse Mark, but that would mean Jugo is only 2 at the time...

NarutoUzumaki12
01-10-2010, 02:23 PM
Dude that was confusing

C4 Karura
01-10-2010, 02:49 PM
My thing, or HidanSenpai's?

NarutoUzumaki12
01-10-2010, 02:59 PM
your thing

SakuraKaulitz221
01-10-2010, 03:23 PM
Where is the trailer? I can't find it. I would like to watch it.

Parak111
01-10-2010, 05:37 PM
Okay, so everyone is thinking there's going to be a filler arc coming up in a few episodes, due to some Episode titles with uncertain meanings, and a trailer for it on Youtube. I hadn't really believed until I saw the video. It's really good. I started thinking there would be an arc. However, then I realized something. Whenever Akatsuki seals one of the Beasts, one of the eyes on the statue gets a pupil. What eyes are filled, and when, in the manga, is irrelevent. After all, they changed the part where they sealed the Two-Tails and the Three-Tails in the "Immortal Pair Arc", to just sealing the Two-Tails, and only the eye for the Two-Tails being filled. (This was so they could do the Three-Tails filler arc.) Then, in the part after the filler arc, in the anime, they changed the sealing of the Four-Tails to the sealing of the Three and Four tails. They also had the Three-Tails eye filled in at this point. (Note: The number of tails does not correspond with it's position among the eyes. The First-Tail eye is the second in the first row. They're essentially random.)


Anyway, the stuff that matters is when they've shown the eyes in the anime. I've included enough to prove my point.

Y=Pupil shown to be there
N=Pupil shown to not be there
u=Eye not shown clearly enough, due to the face being shown at an angle

In Episode 83 these eyes are shown:
Y Y Y u
N
Y Y N u

Here's Episode 121:
u Y Y N
N
u Y Y Y

Therefore, these are the eyes we know are filled in the anime:
Y Y Y N
N
Y Y Y Y

There are only two eyes left unfilled. We know those are the Eight and Nine-Tails. Therefore, it's impossible for the Six-Tails to be around, and interacting with Naruto, as shown in the video. Sorry, people who were looking forward to that arc. (I kind of was, too.)



They must have made a mistake when drawing the scenes. Either that, or they didn't think of making a Six-Tails filler arc in the first place, when the episodes were made. The arc is coming. The trailer seemed pretty official to me. Besides, they've been keeping too much canon for now, and they are catching up to the manga quick. That's why they are making a filler.

brunz
01-11-2010, 04:14 PM
major plot hole....but when this filler is apparently short so thats a plus

C4 Karura
01-11-2010, 07:51 PM
your thing
Well, basically, it's already been confirmed that, in the anime, Akatsuki has seven tailed beasts. However, they're having a filler arc with the Six-Tails anyway. The anime might explain this plothole, it might not.

Ur Mom
01-12-2010, 04:38 AM
Yeah, I realized that a LONG time ago

Chidori of Death
01-12-2010, 05:13 AM
Its a filler....they;re suppossed to have plot holes :P

slyfoxx
01-13-2010, 07:10 AM
who is going to capture the six-tail. Pain should be knocking on the leafs door any minute.kiseme wondering about. they wont show tobi's battle powers just yet and i think taka is with the 8-tails

Cobrinha
01-15-2010, 06:49 PM
Ahhh, so confusing. This is why I mainly just read the manga.

Fan of Minato
01-15-2010, 06:53 PM
Well, basically, it's already been confirmed that, in the anime, Akatsuki has seven tailed beasts. However, they're having a filler arc with the Six-Tails anyway. The anime might explain this plothole, it might not.

To Sasuke, Madara said that 6 of the tailed beasts were captured so that leaves three more I was actually shocked that they changed the actual storyline to avoid a plothole.

But anyway, it is gonna happen as Madara said that only 6 beasts have been captured regardless of the "eyes"....

nandamine
02-02-2010, 09:50 PM
that was really confusing, I really thought that after taka capture 8 tails (suppose to be) naruto will return konoha and he knew ero sennin died and shikamaru starts the investigation of pain

Ockinga
02-02-2010, 09:59 PM
I don't think its that big of a deal. They needed to make a filler, so they changed things. I think the anime writers are aware of the plot hole, but they ignored it.

Hozuki Suigetsu
02-11-2010, 04:07 PM
Maybe it is a flashback arc because after it shows sasuke fighting bee the next episode just switches to this arc. After the confrontation with Tobi or should I say MU (don't wanna spoil too much for others...), Naruto is supposed to be back at the village with Tsunade to be told about what happened to Jiraiya.......

kekki genki
02-11-2010, 04:24 PM
this is just another example of plot no jutsu lol

kokojojo
02-11-2010, 05:20 PM
not really, the storyline of the anime is just slightly different from the manga but i wudnt say there are plot holes

garra12345
03-20-2010, 07:39 PM
it was okay i liked the last episode where pain comes in and captures six tails that was really cool so okay arc.:?:

Sasuke
03-20-2010, 07:45 PM
it was okay i liked the last episode where pain comes in and captures six tails that was really cool so okay arc.:?:

This thread isn't really needed anymore due to the filler arc ending, so can someone lock this thread?