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ECW Original
01-05-2010, 06:27 PM
No Gates or Drunken Fist.Who wins?This is part serious and part joke.

Frost ninja
01-05-2010, 06:29 PM
I half-expected this from your post on the other forum.
Regardless, rock lee speed > peak human strength and sub-human speed.

Lee all the way.

Miles Edgeworth
01-05-2010, 06:30 PM
Well I'm pretty sure Lee still blitzes 300verse, they're mostly human level and they don't have many zomg hax weapons so I'm pretty sure Lee takes this.

SageoftheSixPaths
01-05-2010, 06:45 PM
Lee takes this, though he's exhausted to the point of unconsciousness at the end. You have to remember that the 300verse is basically just our world in ancient times. There were obviously no sonic speed level humans now or ever, so Lee would easily beat them all. However, if you consider the 300 Greeks that the movie is based on to be the greatest warriors in the world at that time (which they almost definitely were) then they could tank a good deal. A single kick would likely knock them unconscious if they got hit in a non armored area, but I don't think they'd die. Also, there were millions of warriors at that time in history. Persia alone had hundreds of thousands of fairly well trained soldiers under their command, as well as elephant and rhino war animals. Lee could easily dodge all attacks and one shot almost every human on earth at that time, but there would be so many enemies to take down that Lee would probably die from exhaustion. It would also take him several years to do all of this, even if all the 300verse warriors were grouped in one spot and came at him one on one.

Basically, Lee wins, but probably doesn't make it back home.

Frost ninja
01-05-2010, 06:47 PM
What other forum?

I meant thread.

The naruverse vs 300verse part in the "what verses can naruverse beat" thread. You said "Say wha?!" when someone said 300verse loses so I xpected

Vivi
01-05-2010, 06:50 PM
http://rumblepack.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/this-is-sparta-71.jpg

So Lee can take out Hundred thousands of Combat Drilled Soldiers without getting hit once?
Hundreds of arrows Spam,Big Animals included?
I just cant see Lee going outta there unharmed.

Miles Edgeworth
01-05-2010, 06:53 PM
http://rumblepack.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/this-is-sparta-71.jpg

So Lee can take out Hundred thousands of Combat Drilled Soldiers without getting hit once?
Hundreds of arrows Spam,Big Animals included?
I just cant see Lee going outta there unharmed.

Lulz.

Well the problem is Lee blitzes hard. Even if he's only got hand to hand, he's around sound speed, I just don't see how the 300verse fighters can come close to reacting to that.

Lee getting injured is likely. Lee getting killed is possible, but not so likely.

Frost ninja
01-05-2010, 06:56 PM
So Lee can take out Hundred thousands of Combat Drilled Soldiers without getting hit once?
Hundreds of arrows Spam,Big Animals included?
I just cant see Lee going outta there unharmed.

Well 300 spartians took out hundreds of thousands of persians...
With arrows spam and big animals...
I can see how lee does it considering 300 soldiers did it without hax powers...
Lee is already insanely fast if he is without weights, so the people would probably freak out and call him a deity of the time (most likely going to be something like hermes who would fly with his winged sandals) and then drop in prayer. Then Lee tells them to start owning the persians. With Lee's power added on, persians lose on that day. Then Lee tells them to sacrafice all but one soldier so he will grant them safe passage by order of the gods... Then its a solo match which lee wins, probably unharmed.

Vivi
01-05-2010, 06:59 PM
Lulz.

Well the problem is Lee blitzes hard. Even if he's only got hand to hand, he's around sound speed, I just don't see how the 300verse fighters can come close to reacting to that.

Lee getting injured is likely. Lee getting killed is possible, but not so likely.

Herodotus in the History books states the Persians had a total of 2.5 Million Military Personnal.800,000 were sent to Thermopylae.

Just to get an actual number up.

Vivi
01-05-2010, 07:01 PM
Well 300 spartians took out hundreds of thousands of persians...
With arrows spam and big animals...


They used the close Quarters to their Strategic Advantage.When they were betrayed and attacked from the back they got crushed in seconds.

Lee isnt a Strategic Fighter.

SageoftheSixPaths
01-05-2010, 07:01 PM
Lulz.

Well the problem is Lee blitzes hard. Even if he's only got hand to hand, he's around sound speed, I just don't see how the 300verse fighters can come close to reacting to that.

Lee getting injured is likely. Lee getting killed is possible, but not so likely.
I still think it's more likely he wins. He wins as a bloodied, beaten, exhausted near death pulp, but he still wins. If I had to take a guess I'd say he dies from sheer exhaustion before injuries, and would likely die AFTER killing everyone. Arrows shouldn't be a problem since he can easily run out of range faster than the arrows can fly with his weights off. Large animals don't do anything except make the men riding them easier targets. Elephants and rhinos aren't all that fast compared to Lee, so he just jumps on top of them, kicks the guy riding on top, and moves on.

321zigzag1
01-05-2010, 07:14 PM
I am pretty sure Lee can win if he is weightless at least

Miles Edgeworth
01-05-2010, 07:17 PM
Herodotus in the History books states the Persians had a total of 2.5 Million Military Personnal.800,000 were sent to Thermopylae.

Just to get an actual number up.

Quality>Quantity

They used the close Quarters to their Strategic Advantage.When they were betrayed and attacked from the back they got crushed in seconds.

Lee isnt a Strategic Fighter.

I don't think Lee needs strategy, if he can roflblitz the 300verse so they don't even know what's going on I doubt they can do anything.

SageoftheSixPaths
01-05-2010, 07:23 PM
Quality>Quantity



I don't think Lee needs strategy, if he can roflblitz the 300verse so they don't even know what's going on I doubt they can do anything.
Let's put it this way. Pre skip Gaara's sand shield could easily stop any attack from the 300verse, minus a rampaging rhino or something, but that's besides the point. Lee easily bypassed the shield when he took his weights off. Gaara couldn't even find out where Lee was because he was moving faster than he could see. Gaara is massively stronger than any Spartan soldier or Persian warrior, and Lee was stronger than Gaara for a time (until he got squished, but again, beside the point). If Gaara couldn't see weightless Lee and he was a Jinchuriki, powerful Shinobi and overall badass then normal humans probably couldn't even see Lee with his weights on. They'd be flying through the air with broken bones and they wouldn't know why, especially if Lee went weightless. With that in mind, Lee could take all the time he wanted to take out the Persians and Spartans and not have to worry about being attacked. His most likely problem would be tripping and hitting his head on a spearbutt or something. That along with massive exhaustion could make it a little harder than you would expect, but he'd still win.

Vivi
01-05-2010, 07:26 PM
Quality>Quantity



I don't think Lee needs strategy, if he can roflblitz the 300verse so they don't even know what's going on I doubt they can do anything.

Not denying that.


I agree fully except he won't get out unharmed.
I agree Lee wins but he'll be dead beat and slight-heavily injured.

zebrakiller
01-05-2010, 09:28 PM
i don't think even lee could dodge hundreds of thousands of arrows...the spartans blocked them with shields so i guess lee could grab one. also, 300verse wasn't quite real world, anyone notice that goat-headed person playing the pipe in xerxes' tent?

Miles Edgeworth
01-05-2010, 09:29 PM
i don't think even lee could dodge hundreds of thousands of arrows...the spartans blocked them with shields so i guess lee could grab one. also, 300verse wasn't quite real world, anyone notice that goat-headed person playing the pipe in xerxes' tent?

Lee is close to a bullet's speed, he'd be able to blitz the arrows, heck in close range he roflblitzes people before they can shoot arrows unless they're out of his range.

Vivi
01-05-2010, 09:32 PM
Lee is close to a bullet's speed, he'd be able to blitz the arrows, heck in close range he roflblitzes people before they can shoot arrows unless they're out of his range.

At the first Arrow load you can clearly see they are unbelievably far away as the Arrows can barely be seen at first.

zebrakiller
01-05-2010, 09:38 PM
they were flight arrows, shot from miles away, they rained down for like 2 minutes. thats a hella amount of arrows, lee wouldnt even have room to dodge them. he'd have to block with a shield or something. plus if we're talking about dropping lee right in the middle of thermopylae and having both spartans n persians against him it would be tough. he'd get surrounded n then speed wouldnt matter

SageoftheSixPaths
01-05-2010, 09:39 PM
At the first Arrow load you can clearly see they are unbelievably far away as the Arrows can barely be seen at first.
But then they BLOT OUT THE SUN. That's a bit of a hint that death is flying at you. It took a while for those arrows to hit the ground, and Lee could easily find shelter in time to dodge the volley. Also, Leaf Hurricane could conceivably knock away the arrows coming at him if there weren't repeated volleys of them flying row after row.

Vivi
01-05-2010, 09:42 PM
But then they BLOT OUT THE SUN. That's a bit of a hint that death is flying at you. It took a while for those arrows to hit the ground, and Lee could easily find shelter in time to dodge the volley. Also, Leaf Hurricane could conceivably knock away the arrows coming at him if there weren't repeated volleys of them flying row after row.

Lee=Slightly Stupid and never saw Arrows.

He'd have to see what they are or how should he know that he has to Shelter from something he got no Idea off.
Also depends on the Battlefield.
Spartans vs Persians had nowhere to cover as example and could only Block it with Shield which was a near 10-12 Second Barrage at least.
They had no Idea what it was either until they came closer.

SageoftheSixPaths
01-05-2010, 09:47 PM
Lee=Slightly Stupid and never saw Arrows.

He'd have to see what they are or how should he know that he has to Shelter from something he got no Idea off.
Also depends on the Battlefield.
Spartans vs Persians had nowhere to cover as example and could only Block it with Shield which was a near 10-12 Second Barrage at least.
They had no Idea what it was either until they came closer.
Honestly, if I saw a giant black cloud coming out of nowhere and quickly closing in on me I'd run no matter what. Also, Lee isn't stupid, he's just....different. Apparently he actually scored pretty well on his academy stuff (don't know how I know that, but he's apparently incredibly studious). Also, take into consideration Lee is many, many, many, many, many times faster than any Spartan on that battlefield. I have no doubt he could run out of range of the attack with ease, especially since all the arrows would be concentrated on one area.

Also, consider that Lee knows he's surrounded by enemies. That's more than a subtle hint that a menacing black cloud flying at you is BAD.

Miles Edgeworth
01-05-2010, 09:47 PM
At the first Arrow load you can clearly see they are unbelievably far away as the Arrows can barely be seen at first.

Unless the 300verse plans to suicide itself there's no way they could shoot arrows to hit Lee before he gets over to them. If they aim it so it hits Lee, it would rain down on them and kill more people in 300verse rather than actually hit Lee, who could react to an arrow and catch/break/escape from it.

they were flight arrows, shot from miles away, they rained down for like 2 minutes. thats a hella amount of arrows, lee wouldnt even have room to dodge them. he'd have to block with a shield or something. plus if we're talking about dropping lee right in the middle of thermopylae and having both spartans n persians against him it would be tough. he'd get surrounded n then speed wouldnt matter

How about he blitzes before 300verse shoots those arrows, or dodges the arrows like anybody who is faster than the eye can see should be able to do.

Doesn't matter if he's surrounded, he blitzes them and spams attacks like Leaf Hurricane, weapons and crap don't matter if you can't hit your target. At all.

The 1st Hokage
01-06-2010, 02:19 PM
10300 spartans,2.5 million persians.can't remember how many barbarians and others.they win.

Lee can't blitz that much before millions of arrows nail Lee to death

Edit:Oh and T-U that is kinda spamming because it had nothing to do with debating this.

Vivi
01-06-2010, 02:38 PM
10300 spartans,2.5 million persians.can't remember how many barbarians and others.they win.

Lee can't blitz that much before millions of arrows nail Lee to death


Has all been answered in Previous Posts.

Like said Quality>Quantity.

zebrakiller
01-06-2010, 02:57 PM
yeah but he's one guy, no matter how good unless he has a massive area clearing attack which he doesn't really he would get rushed by hundreds of thousands of guys. the guys he knocks out would pile up on top of him, no room to maneuver. a leaf hurricane might buff some people back but still.

Frost ninja
01-06-2010, 04:14 PM
yeah but he's one guy, no matter how good unless he has a massive area clearing attack which he doesn't really he would get rushed by hundreds of thousands of guys. the guys he knocks out would pile up on top of him, no room to maneuver. a leaf hurricane might buff some people back but still.

He's faster than the eye can see. You dont "pile" on top of someone that fast, he'd sever someone in two with a kick long before that happens.

Sits in the middle, spams leaf whirlwind/hurricane you wont touch him. If you shoot arrows, he roflblitzed to the archers and roflstomps them to death.

SageoftheSixPaths
01-06-2010, 05:09 PM
He's faster than the eye can see. You dont "pile" on top of someone that fast, he'd sever someone in two with a kick long before that happens.

Sits in the middle, spams leaf whirlwind/hurricane you wont touch him. If you shoot arrows, he roflblitzed to the archers and roflstomps them to death.
Lee can easily dodge mass numbers of arrows as well. I, a normal human, can track an arrow with my naked eye, and I'm near sighted (don't wear glasses though xP). Lee, an all around superior human being with chakra enhanced senses and years of hardcore training could also easily track an arrow with his naked eye. Hell, Lee can outrun the arrow, since you can't see Lee when he's got his weights off. The fact that I can see and arrow, which is much smaller, but can't see Lee tells me Lee is massively faster than any projectile in the 300verse. I'll say it one more time: Lee stomps 300verse, but probably collapses from exhaustion.

Frost ninja
01-06-2010, 05:13 PM
Lee can easily dodge mass numbers of arrows as well. I, a normal human, can track an arrow with my naked eye, and I'm near sighted (don't wear glasses though xP). Lee, an all around superior human being with chakra enhanced senses and years of hardcore training could also easily track an arrow with his naked eye. Hell, Lee can outrun the arrow, since you can't see Lee when he's got his weights off. The fact that I can see and arrow, which is much smaller, but can't see Lee tells me Lee is massively faster than any projectile in the 300verse. I'll say it one more time: Lee stomps 300verse, but probably collapses from exhaustion.

Maybe he'll blot out the sun...
With his eyebrows

SageoftheSixPaths
01-06-2010, 05:55 PM
Maybe he'll blot out the sun...
With his eyebrows
Never underestimate the power of facial hair/ youth/ tight green jumpsuits!

Frost ninja
01-06-2010, 06:44 PM
Never underestimate the power of facial hair/ youth/ tight green jumpsuits!


Spandex is the ultimate buff

zebrakiller
01-06-2010, 06:56 PM
Lee can easily dodge mass numbers of arrows as well. I, a normal human, can track an arrow with my naked eye, and I'm near sighted (don't wear glasses though xP). Lee, an all around superior human being with chakra enhanced senses and years of hardcore training could also easily track an arrow with his naked eye. Hell, Lee can outrun the arrow, since you can't see Lee when he's got his weights off. The fact that I can see and arrow, which is much smaller, but can't see Lee tells me Lee is massively faster than any projectile in the 300verse. I'll say it one more time: Lee stomps 300verse, but probably collapses from exhaustion.
rewatch 300. one arrow is not an issue, hundreds of thousands at once is. if the entire million odd soldiers come at him at once, he would have to knock them out...think about one million or more bodies piling up and tell me how he avoids that in close combat. also, the immortals and the spartans and the crazy war animals wouldnt be taken out very easily. he could do it, but while hes wailing on a rhinoceros trying to knock it unconscious he'd be open for surrounding and attack...

Maybe he'll blot out the sun...
With his eyebrows
this post wins.

SageoftheSixPaths
01-06-2010, 07:05 PM
rewatch 300. one arrow is not an issue, hundreds of thousands at once is. if the entire million odd soldiers come at him at once, he would have to knock them out...think about one million or more bodies piling up and tell me how he avoids that in close combat. also, the immortals and the spartans and the crazy war animals wouldnt be taken out very easily. he could do it, but while hes wailing on a rhinoceros trying to knock it unconscious he'd be open for surrounding and attack...


this post wins.
Lee would move faster than anyone could see. How do they gang up and attack him? Lee can knock a rhino unconscious with a single kick, or he could simply ignore it and go after the soldiers. Lee can outrun arrows, so even if there are millions of them how can they hit him? When you can run faster than what you're running from can travel logic says you don't get hit. There have also been multiple posts about how Lee can take out all the Spartans and Persians. Read them, since I don't feel like reposting.

And yes, it was a win.

Frost ninja
01-06-2010, 07:12 PM
this post wins.

Why thanQ

Noctis Arashi
01-06-2010, 07:12 PM
use the bodies as a sheild from the arrows.....

and if someone from ancient Sparta see a person in some green spandex (not invented yet) moving at insane non human speed >sound,bodies flying and people being speed blitzed and killed... well id think he's a deity too... thus rock lee becomes god makes everyone kill them self and solos the 300verse and this is without gates or drunkenness. soo.... LEE WINS!!!

Frost ninja
01-06-2010, 07:15 PM
use the bodies as a sheild from the arrows.....

and if someone from ancient Sparta see a person in some green spandex (not invented yet) moving at insane non human speed >sound,bodies flying and people being speed blitzed and killed... well id think he's a deity too... thus rock lee becomes god makes everyone kill them self and solos the 300verse and this is without gates or drunkenness. soo.... LEE WINS!!!

I already said that

SageoftheSixPaths
01-06-2010, 07:23 PM
I already said that
Then you should be flattered that you said it first! xP

You're becoming an icon!

321zigzag1
01-06-2010, 07:27 PM
Then you should be flattered that you said it first! xP

You're becoming an icon!

Yes lets all raise for Frost Ninja. :cool:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a311/SanativeStigma/beer.gif

Frost ninja
01-06-2010, 07:30 PM
Then you should be flattered that you said it first! xP

You're becoming an icon!


Wewt!