View Full Version : What verses can Narutoverse beat?
ECW Original
01-04-2010, 04:15 PM
Seeing as how they get stomped,raped,anally raped,and ultra raped by just about every other verse in existence.
Nyruss
01-04-2010, 04:17 PM
Probably Ruroni Kenshinverse.
Near every verse that doesnt involve fighting.
Example: Love Hina verse.
Nyruss
01-04-2010, 04:29 PM
It's an established fact that Telletubbies verse could beat Narutoverse, due to the fact that the sun is a character in it.
crystalblade13
01-04-2010, 04:31 PM
dam ecw, you just cant get enogh narutoverse hating can you. rouronikenshin does loose btw. d grey man loses. all of those disney and nickolodean universes lose,universes that dont involve supernatural powers lose, some of the marvel universes lose. bleach, dbz, one piece, soul eater,some dc and marval universes, yuyu hakusho, and gurren lagaan win. thats about it.
Nyruss
01-04-2010, 04:33 PM
d grey man loses
No it doesn't.
some of the marvel universes lose.
No.
universes that dont involve supernatural powers lose
Depends on the verse.
all of those disney and nickolodean universes loseNo.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 04:34 PM
Ruroni Kenshin Verse
Avatarverse in generality.
Samural Champloo?
Couple others I am trying to remember
Lone Wolf
01-04-2010, 04:38 PM
Avatar, Twilight, Harry Potter, Rurouni kenshin
Nyruss
01-04-2010, 04:39 PM
Harry Potter
Debatable.
Space Cowboy Sasori
01-04-2010, 04:41 PM
d grey man loses.
D. Gray-man verse better not lose, I just started reading it and it's good stuff.
From what I know, they fair a really good chance of winning.
If I wouldnt have read OBD Thread about Gantzverse I would have said them as well.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 04:46 PM
Wow........
Well nothing to be amazed about, well I wasn't.
Seeing as how they get stomped,raped,anally raped,and ultra raped by just about every other verse in existence.
Well they are low tier, lol.
Debatable.
In that battle, Narutoverse has the better leaning me thinks.
Avatar, Twilight, Harry Potter, Rurouni kenshin
Trying to remember more.
If I wouldnt have read OBD Thread about Gantzverse I would have said them as well.
Berserkverse if weren't for the Idea of Evil, and the other omnipotents.
Gantz, well mostly.
Fairy Tail is not a bad match for Naruto.
Claymore is not a bad match for Naruto either.
Nyruss
01-04-2010, 04:49 PM
D. Gray-man verse better not lose, I just started reading it and it's good stuff.
From what I know, they fair a really good chance of winning.
It's got more than a good chance. Road and Tyki are the very definition of hax.
In that battle, Narutoverse has the better leaning me thinks.
Likely.
Space Cowboy Sasori
01-04-2010, 04:51 PM
That's true, from what I've read so far.
(Chapter 93)
No one in the Narutoverse can really beat him, especially with the tease.
ECW Original
01-04-2010, 04:51 PM
dam ecw, you just cant get enogh narutoverse hating can you. rouronikenshin does loose btw. d grey man loses. all of those disney and nickolodean universes lose,universes that dont involve supernatural powers lose, some of the marvel universes lose. bleach, dbz, one piece, soul eater,some dc and marval universes, yuyu hakusho, and gurren lagaan win. thats about it.
My sides are hurting now.Are you on something?No,really.Have you been sniffin' that stuff?Also,I like Naruto,but it's a scientific FACT that they gets raped by the vast majority of fiction.
Sai9497
01-04-2010, 04:52 PM
I know Elfen Lied probably could beat Narutoverse. There's a lot that can beat Narutoverse but I don't fell like putting all of them down. There's a few NArutoverse could beat too.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 04:55 PM
My sides are hurting now.Are you on something?No,really.Have you been sniffin' that stuff?Also,I like Naruto,but it's a scientific FACT that they gets raped by the vast majority of fiction.
Which is why I keep telling people.
Narutoverse is a low tier but it has been getting a lot stronger since Killerbee fight such as.
If it weren't for Top tiers I would put them automatically in bottom tier in ALL of culmulation of Fiction.
Sai9497
01-04-2010, 04:57 PM
Which is why I keep telling people.
Narutoverse is a low tier but it has been getting a lot stronger since Killerbee fight such as.
If it weren't for Top tiers I would put them automatically in bottom tier in ALL of culmulation of Fiction.
They are pretty dang weak compared to other verses such as the Dragon Ball verse
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 04:59 PM
They are pretty dang weak compared to other verses such as the Dragon Ball verse
It doesn't change my statement at all. Dragonball verse is a high tier verse.
Sai9497
01-04-2010, 05:02 PM
It doesn't change my statement at all. Dragonball verse is a high tier verse.
What are some other high tier verses?
What are some other high tier verses?
Marvel,DC,Tenchi Miyuo,JJBA,Getbackers,Demonbane,Touhou,TTGL etc.
Lone Wolf
01-04-2010, 05:05 PM
Marvel, DC, Image, Tenchi Muyo, Getbackers, Digimon, Saint Seiya, Pokemon, TTGL, Bastard, JJBA etc.
Marvel, DC, Image, Tenchi Muyo, Getbackers, Digimon, Saint Seiya, Pokemon, TTGL, Bastard, JJBA etc.
-_- JJBA is so horribly broken.
Sai9497
01-04-2010, 05:08 PM
Marvel,DC,Tenchi Miyuo,JJBA,Getbackers,Demonbane,Touhou,TTGL etc.
Oh yeah all of those could easily beat Narutoverse
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 05:09 PM
Sai9497 some of the verses Lone Wolf and V Valentine generously listed, before I did, are high tiers and some are top tiers.
Yes JJBA is broken. Time stoppers and FTL folk, hooray.
Oh yeah all of those could easily beat Narutoverse
Without any efforts at all.
Marvel, DC, Image, Tenchi Muyo, Getbackers, Digimon, Saint Seiya, Pokemon, TTGL, Bastard, JJBA etc.
Kamen Rider is top Tier I suppose.
ECW Original
01-04-2010, 05:11 PM
-_- JJBA is so horribly broken.
So is that Touhou crap.........fan is cannon.BS!What about Sonicverse?
Nyruss
01-04-2010, 05:11 PM
Onoverse stomps Narutoverse effortlessly.
Incarnations Of Immortality verse also stomps.
Dark Tower verse.
Arguably Darklord of Darkholm verse.
Apprentice Adept verse.
Man of his Word verse.
Let's see here, what else.
EDIT: Discworld.
ECW Original
01-04-2010, 05:13 PM
Real Life stomps Narutoverse.
Yes JJBA is broken. Time stoppers and FTL folk, hooray.
6 Time Screwers,5 FTL Guys and a Universal Resetter.
I really need to start read it.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 05:16 PM
Sword of Truth series wins mainly just because of the omnipotents. Creator and the Keeper.
The Mother Confessor's Magic is haxxed by the way.
Nyruss
01-04-2010, 05:17 PM
D&Dverse and Dragonlanceverse. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2z7exox.png
So is that Touhou crap.........fan is cannon.BS!What about Sonicverse?
TOuhou is broken enough without them.
Boundary Manipulation,Eating History,Fate Manipulation even Manipulating distance.
Sonicverse can beat them.If I remember right Tails had some powerful form.
Sonic potentially solos due to FTL Speed.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 05:19 PM
Tails has that Titan Tails form, acculumation of other Tails from other alternate realites and universes in Sonic continuity. Titan Tails is a nigh omnipotent at least.
ECW Original
01-04-2010, 05:20 PM
TOuhou is broken enough without them.
Boundary Manipulation,Eating History,Fate Manipulation even Manipulating distance.
Sonicverse can beat them.If I remember right Tails had some powerful form.
Sonic potentially solos due to FTL Speed.
How much damage could Solaris do?.............nevermind.I just remembered something.
Tails has that Titan Tails form, acculumation of other Tails from other alternate realites and universes in Sonic continuity. Titan Tails is a nigh omnipotent at least.
^^^
The Man said it.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 05:21 PM
D&Dverse and Dragonlanceverse. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2z7exox.png
Wut?
Anyway Dragonriders of Pern http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2z7exox.png nah just kidding.
Frost ninja
01-04-2010, 05:22 PM
What about SGT. Frog (Keroro gunso) verse?
(Wonders if anyone knows about it)
narutoultra
01-04-2010, 05:32 PM
There are bookverses that get owned by Naruto. There are a good amount of books that include unadvanced, non-supernatural races.
The Immortal Watch Dog
01-04-2010, 05:33 PM
all of those disney
so you've never watched any disney movies then?
because there are a ;);););) load of gods..including a guy capable of punching down mountains and hurling giants ftl into space
a few reality warpers
and then theres kingdom of hearts..
rape stomping naruto right there
also regarding marvel and dc
no..;);););) no..absolutely not even the cartoon and movie evrses take narutoverse down with minimal casualties
Pennywise
01-04-2010, 05:34 PM
Near every verse that doesnt involve fighting.
Example: Love Hina verse.
Love Hina, share it's universe with Negima, which Naruto has no chance of killing.
Frost ninja
01-04-2010, 05:35 PM
so you've never watched any disney movies then?
because there are a ;);););) load of gods..including a guy capable of punching down mountains and hurling giants ftl into space
a few reality warpers
and then theres kingdom of hearts..
rape stomping naruto right there
also regarding marvel and dc
no..;);););) no..absolutely not even the cartoon and movie evrses take narutoverse down with minimal casualties
Welcome to the forums.
Good noting on the disney Hurcules gods. Even disneyverse stomps naruverse. Thats pretty wow
Pennywise
01-04-2010, 05:39 PM
Welcome to the forums.
Good noting on the disney Hurcules gods. Even disneyverse stomps naruverse. Thats pretty wow
Agreed.
Even if you discount Herc, there's still people like Genie and Jafar, who are way too much for Narutoverse to handle.
Frost ninja
01-04-2010, 05:41 PM
Agreed.
Even if you discount Herc, there's still people like Genie and Jafar, who are way too much for Narutoverse to handle.
Also a good note. Disney has magical beings, and Naruverse has no counters for magic.
Also, welcome to the forums for you too.
ECW Original
01-04-2010, 05:41 PM
Welcome to the forums.
Good noting on the disney Hurcules gods. Even disneyverse stomps naruverse. Thats pretty wow
More like sad.Very very sad.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 05:44 PM
How is it sad? Nothing to be surprised about. They got omnipotents for example. Nothing to be amazed.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 05:45 PM
Many bookverses would get owned from my knowledge at least.
I mean many are like fanstasy like Sword of Truth series. Does anyone know that series? I mean if it weren't for the omnipotents like beings Narutoverse can defeat that verse.
Frost ninja
01-04-2010, 05:47 PM
but they have the omnipotent beings, so naru dosent.,
Same with keroro gunso bookverse (the keroverse?)
Planet busters and such everywhere.
NinjaArt WildfireRasengan
01-04-2010, 05:48 PM
Avatar, Twilight, Harry Potter, Rurouni kenshin
Avatar-No Did Anyone See Aangs Last avatar state. Twilight-Yes Of course. Harry Potter-Duh. Rurouni Kenshin- No only if kenshin took back his vow and started killing people bcuz dude dodges bullets he'll kill them all with about three strikes his sword style lets him do that.:cool:
The Immortal Watch Dog
01-04-2010, 05:50 PM
Welcome to the forums.
Good noting on the disney Hurcules gods. Even disneyverse stomps naruverse. Thats pretty wow
thanks i have a decent amount of obscure knowledge of stuff that only comes in handy in threads like this lol
other wise i can be sorta useless lol
here I'll add some
the fantasia gods
fantasia 200 had the phoenix which was raising the land and a spirit of destruction...
then we have..king tritan who seemed to be able to control the ocean on a planetary level
i'll add more since I'm new and its my job to contribute
The lord of the rings universe
has the Vala which includes a fighting god who's basically a fusion between Maito Gai and hulk hogan
who shook the entire universe just by laughing...and pwned the elder god of evil (melkor saurons boss)
werewolves who destroy mountains just by barking
the other gods who can level continents..alter reality
become stars...
Then we've got melkor and sauron who can do what the tsukyomi can do to gods
Galadriel who solo'd armies...could slow time mind rape
Feanor and hurin who took down armies of superhumans by themselves and only lost becase..the guy was burried under the dead bodies
and the other was so powerful his spirit destroyed his body
Fingolfin who scattered armies of gods with his murderous intent
and has speed on par with the high tiers of the naruto verse...and super strength and durability (withstood the weight of a hill on his neck for a while)
then theres
Popeye who was totally insane
loony toons...
i could add more...if you guys want?
they have "death words" for insta-kills? And dosent eragon know like... 7
potteverse does yeah but i think they lack superhuman speed enough to cast them en masse to kill the naruto ninjas
some of the more powerful wizards can paralyze people with a thought but as far as i know only three could do that...
dumbledore voldemorte and grendelwald the most powerful wizards
so yeah...their in trouble
Eragon honestly is a badd baaadd story but yeah they should be super humanly fast enough
plus i think they had lord of the rings style range attacks (across hundreds of miles)
so snipe from a far for the win..for the eragon guys .get me?
Pennywise
01-04-2010, 05:51 PM
Avatar-No Did Anyone See Aangs Last avatar state. Twilight-Yes Of course. Harry Potter-Duh. Rurouni Kenshin- No only if kenshin took back his vow and started killing people bcuz dude dodges bullets he'll kill them all with about three strikes his sword style lets him do that.:cool:
Avatar can only beat pre-time skip narutoverse, Post time skip beats them in every department though.
Harry Potter is rather debatable, they've got nothing to counter The Dementors, or teleporting, sans of just nuking the area with Bijuu blasts.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 05:51 PM
Avatar-No Did Anyone See Aangs Last avatar state. Twilight-Yes Of course. Harry Potter-Duh. Rurouni Kenshin- No only if kenshin took back his vow and started killing people bcuz dude dodges bullets he'll kill them all with about three strikes his sword style lets him do that.:cool:
Avatar State Aang and Comet Powered Ozai are the only few Avatar Characters that pose a threat to the high and top tier Naruto.
Kenshin bullet time reaction feat was only once. He blocked a 19th century gun bullet with his sword.
Frost ninja
01-04-2010, 05:52 PM
thanks i have a decent amount of obscure knowledge of stuff that only comes in handy in threads like this lol
other wise i can be sorta useless lol
here I'll add some
the fantasia gods
fantasia 200 had the phoenix which was raising the land and a spirit of destruction...
then we have..king tritan who seemed to be able to control the ocean on a planetary level
i'll add more since I'm new and its my job to contribute
The lord of the rings universe
has the Vala which includes a fighting god who's basically a fusion between Maito Gai and hulk hogan
who shook the entire universe just by laughing...and pwned the elder god of evil (melkor saurons boss)
werewolves who destroy mountains just by barking
the other gods who can level continents..alter reality
become stars...
Then we've got melkor and sauron who can do what the tsukyomi can do to gods
Galadriel who solo'd armies...could slow time mind rape
Feanor and hurin who took down armies of superhumans by themselves and only lost becase..the guy was burried under the dead bodies
and the other was so powerful his spirit destroyed his body
Fingolfin who scattered armies of gods with his murderous intent
and has speed on par with the high tiers of the naruto verse...and super strength and durability (withstood the weight of a hill on his neck for a while)
then theres
Popeye who was totally insane
loony toons...
i could add more...if you guys want?
Very nice notes... explain the last two for me please?
Pennywise
01-04-2010, 05:55 PM
^
Popeye once punched out God and beat up Golden Age Superman, and has Toonforce.
He doesn't even need spinich to beat the Narutoverse honestly.
Looney Toons, have reality warping and Bugs once became the artist of the story and proceeded to screw over the characters.
Frost ninja
01-04-2010, 05:59 PM
^
Popeye once punched out God and beat up Golden Age Superman, and has Toonforce.
He doesn't even need spinich to beat the Narutoverse honestly.
Looney Toons, have reality warping and Bugs once became the artist of the story and proceeded to ;);););) over the characters.
Thats... holy... er... ama... gwah...
And looney toons I guess could be considered reality warping and having some heafty duribility. Especially Wile E coyote. And road runner is hypersonic+, am I right?
The Immortal Watch Dog
01-04-2010, 06:00 PM
Very nice notes... explain the last two for me please?
Popeye? massively ftl able to alter reality with his punches
destroyed his universe when he fought with his dad against a bunch of black dudes
the forces of his blows against pappy also completely destroyed the fleichvere animated universe (which included a powerful version of pc superhuman)
with out spinach
he's still durable enough to tank mountain busting and even being punched into the moon i think
can punch people into orbit..
pull the grand canyon together..and survive in space
looney toons was even worse
these guys went from soaking up planet destroying attacks....to blasting each other with force enough to destroy their universe....and still survive
then we got he man...from the eighties..who was about even with silver age superman
comic and i think old school cartoon transormers with multiverse eating gods(which is what unicron was in the comics and primus too)...and weaponry that can crack planets and it gets worse from there
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 06:01 PM
Toonforce is a powerful thing. Although its partially inconsistent.
Nevertheless cheap and powerful.
Space Cowboy Sasori
01-04-2010, 06:02 PM
Thats... holy... er... ama... gwah...
And looney toons I guess could be considered reality warping and having some heafty duribility. Especially Wile E coyote. And road runner is hypersonic+, am I right?
Wile E. Coyote probably does, I mean I was actually watching that the other day.
WEC feel down a mile onto a rock, which another rock hit which sent him another mile up, which hit his head on the bottom of the highest rock, which then sent him into the rock on the bottom, which another rock then smashed him between two rocks.
In other words yea since he gets up everytime and brushes it off. Still makes me giggle too.
Pennywise
01-04-2010, 06:04 PM
Wile E. Coyote probably does, I mean I was actually watching that the other day.
WEC feel down a mile onto a rock, which another rock hit which sent him another mile up, which hit his head on the bottom of the highest rock, which then sent him into the rock on the bottom, which another rock then smashed him between two rocks.
In other words yea since he gets up everytime and brushes it off. Still makes me giggle too.
Wile E.'s durability is low end compared to what Marvin the Martian's pulled off (Tanking the destruction of the planet he accidently blew up)
Space Cowboy Sasori
01-04-2010, 06:05 PM
I haven't seen Marvin Martian in forever, I need to watch that more it's still classic.
narutoultra
01-04-2010, 06:05 PM
Many bookverses would get owned from my knowledge at least.
I mean many are like fanstasy like Sword of Truth series. Does anyone know that series? I mean if it weren't for the omnipotents like beings Narutoverse can defeat that verse.
The Sword That Cut The Burning Grass is a good example, just a bunch of normal samuri. Gahoole Gaurdians, just a bunch of Owls, the humans all died. Twilight and Cirque Du Freak are just superhuman vampires(to my knowledge).
others should surprisingly win though, The Edge has that giant vortex monster. Deltora has some Hax monsters, beat by plot. Gregor actlually takes place in modern time. Narnia has an S***load of monsters and Aslan.
Harry Potter and Eragon is debated over, though Harry Potter takes place in modorn times, and should win.
Frost ninja
01-04-2010, 06:06 PM
Wile E.'s durability is low end compared to what Marvin the Martian's pulled off (Tanking the destruction of the planet he accidently blew up)
Wile E coyote is pretty fierce. Moving beyond hypersonic and slamming into rocks at full speed and force. An explosion like Marvin's wouldnt kill coyote, in fact he's brush off and keep trying.
The Immortal Watch Dog
01-04-2010, 06:08 PM
if harry potter wins
it wins because of the real world military noticing the battle between two super human factions
and then...feeling the full might of the US British and maybe Chinese military coming down on them
i'm not actually sure how well individual wizards would do against ninjas
Frost ninja
01-04-2010, 06:11 PM
Insta-kill spells are ftw in the fight
Eragon and maybe Harry Potter might win
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 06:11 PM
They are in general just normal humans. Harry Potter is in general at a disadvantage against Narutoverse.
Eragonverse has that hax Words of Death and Mental attacks that gives them the edge.
Pennywise
01-04-2010, 06:13 PM
if harry potter wins
it wins because of the real world military noticing the battle between two super human factions
and then...feeling the full might of the US British and maybe Chinese military coming down on them
i'm not actually sure how well individual wizards would do against ninjas
Avada Kadavra would kill plenty of people if they hit, Dementors as well would mess up the Narutoverse bigtime, do to thier Fear Aura and the fact that Naruto has nothing to deal with them, short of Bijuu Blasting them to hell.
Frost ninja
01-04-2010, 06:15 PM
Eragon, arent they dragons?
Also with teleportation and invisibility...
Nyruss
01-04-2010, 06:20 PM
Eragon autoloses for sucking even more than Naruto.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 06:21 PM
Narutoverse defeating verses, lets see.
.
Ruroni Kenshin
Avatar
Harry Potter (In generalities)
Twilight
Heroes (Depends)
Fairy Tail (Depends not enough info on all top tiers)
Claymore (I don't see them taking on Tailed Beasts unless I forgot something)
Friday the 13th
Samurai Champloo
Afro Samurai (They can't do anything to Tailed Beasts)
King of Fighters
Evil Dead
Cirque Du Freak
I would list Mortal Kombat and Berserk if it weren’t for the Top tier Omnipotents
There are other verses I am trying to remember like from Bookverses and other places. This is not the entire list because I know there are several more.
Feel free to disagree.
Eragon autoloses for sucking even more than Naruto.
I would say alot more.
rocketjed1
01-04-2010, 06:25 PM
Narutoverse can beat Barneyverse.
Nyruss
01-04-2010, 06:26 PM
Barney is evidently a reality warper, so no go.
rocketjed1
01-04-2010, 06:27 PM
Barney is evidently a reality warper, so no go.
Oh you've got to be kidding me...........What about Doraverse?
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 06:28 PM
Doraverse has three lightspeed stars or something.
Anyway Dudemeister Barney is going to eliminate all Narutoverse in one get go?
Nyruss
01-04-2010, 06:28 PM
Dora's got stars are characters last I heard. No one in Narutoverse is a starbuster
Anyway Dudemeister Barney is going to eliminate all Narutoverse in one get go? Maybe, probly not.
Frost ninja
01-04-2010, 06:29 PM
So is bluescluesverse
They can escape into a two dimensional plain by doing a little jig.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 06:31 PM
Dora's got stars are characters last I heard. No one in Narutoverse is a starbuster
Maybe, probly not.
See its incredibly doubtful. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2z7exox.png
So is bluescluesverse
They can escape into a two dimensional plain by doing a little jig.
Yes Cartoons are that haxxed people.
Anyway what about my working list?
Nyruss
01-04-2010, 06:33 PM
Doesn't Friday the 13th verse also include Freddy Kreuger?
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 06:34 PM
He is from Nightmare on Elm Street Series.
Remember that Freddy vs Jason was a crossover and Jason is from
Friday the 13th. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2z7exox.png
Hidan
01-04-2010, 06:35 PM
Dora's got stars are characters last I heard. No one in Narutoverse is a starbuster
Maybe, probly not.
Okay then tell me how Doraverse beats Narutoverse, you pointed out that no one in Naruto has starbusting powers, but what does Doraverse have? I am going to research this, lol.
Nyruss
01-04-2010, 06:40 PM
It has stars. As characters. You know what a star is don't you? Our sun is a star. A small one.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 06:41 PM
3 stars if I remember right.
The Immortal Watch Dog
01-04-2010, 06:45 PM
Avada Kadavra would kill plenty of people if they hit, Dementors as well would mess up the Narutoverse bigtime, do to thier Fear Aura and the fact that Naruto has nothing to deal with them, short of Bijuu Blasting them to hell.
oh no not disputing that at all
but for the AK the key word there is if
although the few wizards that can paralyze at the speed of thought can probably do so to a bunch of people at once
just don't know how many
Gandalf Galadriel and Eregon would be a power trio in the narutoverse
two of them have conitent plus range spells
and the other has kill words and superspeed
NarutoUzumaki12
01-04-2010, 06:51 PM
Naruto verse beats Ben10 verse. Yu gi oh verse Pokemon verse spongebob verse Phineas and Ferb verse,Bo Bo verse Barney verse and Teletubbies verse
ECW Original
01-04-2010, 06:51 PM
Barney is evidently a reality warper, so no go.
Oh God
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 06:53 PM
Naruto verse beats Ben10 verse. Yu gi oh verse Pokemon verse spongebob verse Phineas and Ferb verse,Bo Bo verse Barney verse and Teletubbies verse
Not Ben 10 only because of the few haxxed aliens and planetary fleets.
Yugioh? Not really from what I know.
Not Pokemonverse, such as for example haxxed legendaries.
Not Teletubbiesverse only because the Sun is an actual character. Yes its a baby but Narutoverse can't do anything to the sun.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 06:54 PM
Oh God
Except Barney eliminating all of them in one get go? Not likely
Plus he is rather low tier in his reality warping if I remember. lol
Hidan
01-04-2010, 06:56 PM
It has stars. As characters. You know what a star is don't you? Our sun is a star. A small one.
As I read online Dora (If this is talking about Dora the Explorer) has a few Stars in her backpack, the usefulness of them apparantly seems very non needed, they don't seem to do anything but fly, but when you say a Giant Star the Narutoverse has one as well, the Naruto verse is much faster than the Doraverse so they would get speedblitzed, just a question, why do you hate Naruto so much and yet you are on a Naruto forum?
Nyruss
01-04-2010, 06:56 PM
Definitely not Yugioh. The Pharoah can alter destiny, to say nothing of the God cards.
but when you say a Giant Star the Narutoverse has one as well Not as a character and it is therefore not included.
why do you hate Naruto so much and yet you are on a Naruto forum?
I don't hate Naruto.
ECW Original
01-04-2010, 06:57 PM
Naruto verse beats Ben10 verse. Yu gi oh verse Pokemon verse spongebob verse Phineas and Ferb verse,Bo Bo verse Barney verse and Teletubbies verse
No,No,H*ll No,No,doubt it,doubt it,No,and No
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 06:58 PM
No,No,H*ll No,No,doubt it,doubt it,No,and No
I don't know about Phineas and Ferb, or BO bo but you believe Barneyverse?
Hidan
01-04-2010, 07:00 PM
Definitely not Yugioh. The Pharoah can alter destiny, to say nothing of the God cards.
Not as a character and it is therefore not included.
I don't hate Naruto.
What do you say about my earlier post, you pretty much ignored it except for the last part.
Nyruss
01-04-2010, 07:00 PM
Bobobo-bobo-bobobo? Guy with the blonde afro? A deadly combination of DBZ-esque power and Toonforce. Naruto has no chance.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 07:05 PM
If Bo Bo verse is what Dudemeister is referring to then Naruto can't win.
What does Phineas and Ferb have?
Barneryverse? I still don't think so. Doraverse, well they got those 3 stars which what they do again?
The Immortal Watch Dog
01-04-2010, 07:05 PM
Naruto verse beats Ben10 verse. Yu gi oh verse Pokemon verse spongebob verse Phineas and Ferb verse,Bo Bo verse Barney verse and Teletubbies verse
their not overcoming Phineas and Ferb tech...
time travel and low level reality/probability altering machines ftw
Bo bo almost as zaney as poppeye
and ben10? yeah i'm not sure on that
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 07:06 PM
Not Ben 10 only because of the few haxxed aliens and planetary fleets.
danilo777
01-04-2010, 07:12 PM
OnePiece verse
Pennywise
01-04-2010, 07:14 PM
OnePiece verse
How are they supposed to get past the Logia's...or Whitebard for that matter.
ECW Original
01-04-2010, 07:15 PM
I don't know about Phineas and Ferb, or BO bo but you believe Barneyverse?
I'm going off what someone who knows more than me said.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 07:18 PM
I'm going off what someone who knows more than me said.
Dudemeister later doubted that Barney can eliminate all of Narutoverse in get go and also considering Barney has never shown on such wide scale either.
Abigail
01-04-2010, 07:19 PM
Naruto verse beats Ben10 verse.No. Yu gi oh verseNo. Pokemon verseNo. spongebob verseNo. Phineas and Ferb verse,No idea.Bo Bo verseLol no. Barney verseNo. and Teletubbies verseNo.
OnePiece verse
And No.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 07:21 PM
Reposted for good measure.
Narutoverse defeating verses, lets see.
Ruroni Kenshin
Avatar
Harry Potter (In generalities)
Twilight
Heroes (Depends)
Fairy Tail (Depends, I lean towards Narutoverse for now although not enough info on all top tiers)
Claymore (I don't see them taking on Tailed Beasts plus they aren't really that strong asides from the speed unless I forgot something)
Friday the 13th
Samurai Champloo
Afro Samurai (They can't do anything to Tailed Beasts)
King of Fighters
Evil Dead
Cirque Du Freak
I would list Mortal Kombat and Berserkverse if it weren't for the omnipotents.
This is not the entire list. I am still trying to remember from other places like Bookverses. I know there are at least several more.
Feel free to disagree.
Darth Caedus
01-04-2010, 07:24 PM
Abigail I didn't know you had an account here.
And why would bother mentioning Phineas and Ferbverse? I don't recall them having any power whatsoever.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 07:25 PM
Well Phineas and Ferb apparently have some good tech according to one poster.
Yes Phineas and Ferb are incredibly smart. They built xray goggles once lol. Agent Perry the platypus is a undercover agent, and has defeated some villanious idiot plenty of times. But I don't think they can beat the naruto verse.
Frost ninja
01-04-2010, 07:27 PM
Abigail I didn't know you had an account here.
And why would bother mentioning Phineas and Ferbverse? I don't recall them having any power whatsoever.
Welcome to the forum!
By the by, phineas and Ferb build a time machine. Toonverse hax at its pinnicle.
Abigail
01-04-2010, 07:29 PM
Without any efforts at all.
Kamen Rider is top Tier I suppose.
Multiple ways of time travel, one who can time stop, a universal reset button, people who can tank nukes, one whos third strongest forms finisher has the power of a nuke, his strongest form could life wipe if not just outright planet bust, another kicked the moon back into orbit.
I'm just scratching the surface.
Abigail I didn't know you had an account here.
And why would bother mentioning Phineas and Ferbverse? I don't recall them having any power whatsoever.I've had an account for months.
Also because it was the only one I didn't know about and was to lazy to cut it out.
Darth Caedus
01-04-2010, 07:34 PM
Yes Phineas and Ferb are incredibly smart. They built xray goggles once lol. Agent Perry the platypus is a undercover agent, and has defeated some villanious idiot plenty of times. But I don't think they can beat the naruto verse.
Smarts won't do anything against someone who's supersonic.
Ruroni Kenshin
Avatar
Harry Potter (In generalities)
Twilight
Heroes (Depends)
Fairy Tail (Depends, I lean towards Narutoverse for now although not enough info on all top tiers)
Claymore (I don't see them taking on Tailed Beasts plus they aren't really that strong asides from the speed unless I forgot something)
Friday the 13th
Samurai Champloo
Afro Samurai (They can't do anything to Tailed Beasts)
King of Fighters
Evil Dead
Cirque Du Freak
Kenshin yes. Those are normal people.
Avatar yes. They are slow.
Harry Potter lol no. Big no.
Twilight yes. They're weak.
Heroes. Yeah it depends.
Fairy Tail. lol no. Fairy Tail is weak but Narutoverse is even weaker.
Claymore is full of glass cannons and they aren't exactly that fast.
Friday the 13th is a given.
Samurai Champloo is at most peak human.
Afro Samurai. If you ignore the headband that makes him invincible, then it's a toss up. It depends on whether he can figure out a way to kill the beasts.
KoF. Peak human at best IIRC.
Evil Dead has no decent feats.
Dunno about Cirque Du Freak.
By the by, phineas and Ferb build a time machine. Toonverse hax at its pinnicle
Do they have anything that would do anything to the tailed beasts?
ECW Original
01-04-2010, 07:38 PM
Dudemeister later doubted that Barney can eliminate all of Narutoverse in get go and also considering Barney has never shown on such wide scale either.
I didn't see that.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 07:40 PM
Welcome Darth Caedus, I know you are an OBD regular. I have seen your posts before. Reasonable poster also.
Kenshin yes. Those are normal people.
Avatar yes. They are slow.
Harry Potter lol no. Big no.
Twilight yes. They're weak.
Heroes. Yeah it depends.
Fairy Tail. lol no. Fairy Tail is weak but Narutoverse is even weaker.
Claymore is full of glass cannons and they aren't exactly that fast.
Friday the 13th is a given.
Samurai Champloo is at most peak human.
Afro Samurai. If you ignore the headband that makes him invincible, then it's a toss up. It depends on whether he can figure out a way to kill the beasts.
KoF. Peak human at best IIRC.
Evil Dead has no decent feats.
Dunno about Cirque Du Freak.
Hmmm elaborate.
Hmmm elaborate.
That headband thing seems like no limits fallacy like if you know what I am trying to say here.
Cirque Du Freak is a book, has super vampires in it.
Smarts won't do anything against someone who's supersonic.
Kenshin yes. Those are normal people.
Avatar yes. They are slow.
Harry Potter lol no. Big no.
Twilight yes. They're weak.
Heroes. Yeah it depends.
Fairy Tail. lol no. Fairy Tail is weak but Narutoverse is even weaker.
Claymore is full of glass cannons and they aren't exactly that fast.
Friday the 13th is a given.
Samurai Champloo is at most peak human.
Afro Samurai. If you ignore the headband that makes him invincible, then it's a toss up. It depends on whether he can figure out a way to kill the beasts.
KoF. Peak human at best IIRC.
Evil Dead has no decent feats.
Dunno about Cirque Du Freak.
Do they have anything that would do anything to the tailed beasts?
Didnt I say I don't think they could beat Narutoverse!
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 07:42 PM
I didn't see that.
Here.
Anyway Dudemeister Barney is going to eliminate all Narutoverse in one get go?
Maybe, probly not.
Frost ninja
01-04-2010, 07:43 PM
Do they have anything that would do anything to the tailed beasts?
Lets see...
Aside from a time machine to mess the time space continum, possibly eliminate the tailed beasts... I'm talking time paradoxal powers. Reality warping, abusing the flow of time itself. Rending reality into peices and bits.
Darth Caedus
01-04-2010, 07:47 PM
Welcome Darth Caedus, I know you are an OBD regular. I have seen your posts before. Reasonable poster also.
Hmmm elaborate.
Hmmm elaborate.
That headband thing seems like no limits fallacy like if you know what I am trying to say here.
Cirque Du Freak is a book, has super vampires in it.
Thanks. Interesting to see someone recognize me, though I don't debate as much anymore.
HPverse has too much. Time travel, instant kills, immortality, basilisks, dementors, etc etc. If this is truly verse v verse I think they would overwhelm them. Now named characters vs. named characters, Naruto would stomp, but I think that HPverse will be able to overwhelm them.
Fairy Tail is simply much much more faster and more powerful. The mid-tiers like Natsu could handle the majority of the Narutoverse.
It's more of a stupid little gimmick. It's ignored in the OBD but I don't know how you guys do it here.
Ah. Any calcs or feats for CdF?
Lets see...
Aside from a time machine to mess the time space continum, possibly eliminate the tailed beasts... I'm talking time paradoxal powers. Reality warping, abusing the flow of time itself. Rending reality into peices and bits.Ah well it's a series that I never bothered to watch much of so I figured I might be wrong here.
Didnt I say I don't think they could beat Narutoverse!
I dunno, I was just wondering if they could do anything to the tailed beasts.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 07:52 PM
Thanks. Interesting to see someone recognize me, though I don't debate as much anymore.
HPverse has too much. Time travel, instant kills, immortality, basilisks, dementors, etc etc. If this is truly verse v verse I think they would overwhelm them. Now named characters vs. named characters, Naruto would stomp, but I think that HPverse will be able to overwhelm them.
Fairy Tail is simply much much more faster and more powerful. The mid-tiers like Natsu could handle the majority of the Narutoverse.
It's more of a stupid little gimmick. It's ignored in the OBD but I don't know how you guys do it here.
Ah. Any calcs or feats for CdF?
Ah well it's a series that I never bothered to watch much of so I figured I might be wrong here.
I am a very long time lurker. I rarely post in NF though.
Ok I see so you look at from a different angle in the HPverse vs Narutoverse. Well I will think about it.
Really? Asides from like Meteor Gerard in feats for example?
Ah.
From what I recall around bottom tier superhuman in general.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 07:53 PM
Lets see...
Aside from a time machine to mess the time space continum, possibly eliminate the tailed beasts... I'm talking time paradoxal powers. Reality warping, abusing the flow of time itself. Rending reality into peices and bits.
Time Machine is one thing. Pulling it off is another.
The Immortal Watch Dog
01-04-2010, 07:53 PM
Abigail I didn't know you had an account here.
And why would bother mentioning Phineas and Ferbverse? I don't recall them having any power whatsoever.
i'm here too
they actually have pretty high level tech...time travel and ;);););) like that
spammed some mecha too
OnePiece verse
no just no
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 07:58 PM
i'm here too
they actually have pretty high level tech...time travel and ;);););) like that
spammed some mecha too
no just no
Oh that is right you are from OBD too. Your name looked familiar but I wasn't really sure. My bad. You are good as well. I remember your comments such as in that Team Pain vs Team Avatar fiasco.
Darth Caedus
01-04-2010, 08:04 PM
I am a very long time lurker. I rarely post in NF though.
Ok I see so you look at from a different angle in the HPverse vs Narutoverse. Well I will think about it.
Really? Asides from like Meteor Gerard in feats for example?
Ah.
From what I recall around bottom tier superhuman in general.
Ah lurkers. I guess I would be one here.
Huh, I guess we were looking at the fights differently then?
For Fairy Tail, Meteor Gerard is possibly hypersonic. The fastest Naruto characters are Hachibi and Naruto who are both barely supersonic. Natsu, Gray, Gerard, Erza, Luxus, etc are all easily supersonic. Not to mention Fairy Law would end the fights quickly.
Bottom tier superhuman? No hax or anything? This should be a victory for the Narutoverse then.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 08:10 PM
Ah lurkers. I guess I would be one here.
Huh, I guess we were looking at the fights differently then?
For Fairy Tail, Meteor Gerard is possibly hypersonic. The fastest Naruto characters are Hachibi and Naruto who are both barely supersonic. Natsu, Gray, Gerard, Erza, Luxus, etc are all easily supersonic. Not to mention Fairy Law would end the fights quickly.
Bottom tier superhuman? No hax or anything? This should be a victory for the Narutoverse then.
You lurked a lot here too? Ah.
I guess we are.
Base Killerbee is supposed to low supersonic.
SM Naruto is somewhere mid supersonic. You forgot Pain and he has possible low hypersonic reactions. Raikage, Sasuke. Itachi by powerscale. Kisame is transonic+ at the very least. Gated Gai.
Top tier Naruto in general would be around supersonic. High tiers break sound imo. This is of course low end for my part.
Yes there is the Fairy Law.
Those characters for being supersonic. I actually wonder where that came from. Does it have to do with a bull blocking a bullet.
The Immortal Watch Dog
01-04-2010, 08:13 PM
Oh that is right you are from OBD too. Your name looked familiar but I wasn't really sure. My bad. You are good as well. I remember your comments such as in that Team Pain vs Team Avatar fiasco.
i came here mostly cause nightmare luffy came over there and tried to pull his bull
sos i was like "man the decent dudes here maybe needing some help..so lemme offer what little i can"
and yeah that one...i remember that it's not every day you end up defending the narutoverse in the obd and it for a right proper reason
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 08:16 PM
i came here mostly cause nightmare luffy came over there and tried to pull his bull
sos i was like "man the decent dudes here maybe needing some help..so lemme offer what little i can"
and yeah that one...i remember that it's not every day you end up defending the narutoverse in the obd and it for a right proper reason
The irony is that Nightmare Luffy later said he actually doesn't like Narutoverse.
Then again...
Well yes for the right proper reasons for any verse.
Darth Caedus
01-04-2010, 08:16 PM
You lurked a lot here too? Ah.
I guess we are.
Base Killerbee is supposed to low supersonic.
SM Naruto is somewhere mid supersonic. You forgot Pain and he has possible low hypersonic reactions. Raikage, Sasuke. Itachi by powerscale. Kisame is transonic+ at the very least. Gated Gai.
Top tier Naruto in general would be around supersonic. High tiers break sound imo. This is of course low end for my part.
Yes there is the Fairy Law.
Those characters for being supersonic. I actually wonder where that came from. Does it have to do with a bull blocking a bullet.
Hachibi is Mach 1.7, SM Naruto was IIRC calced at 2.3 or so. Pain I believe had like a bunch of calcs for him but most were flawed. I forgot about how the Kisame fight may have changed things a bit there so Raikage, Sasuke, Itachi, Kisame are all powerscaled to Mach 1.7. Problem is Fairy Tail is mainly Mach 3.5+ from the calcs I've seen. Regardless Fairy Law ends the fight quickly.
I dunno. I'm just gonna stay away from the series I don't know.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 08:19 PM
Hachibi is Mach 1.7, SM Naruto was IIRC calced at 2.3 or so. Pain I believe had like a bunch of calcs for him but most were flawed. I forgot about how the Kisame fight may have changed things a bit there so Raikage, Sasuke, Itachi, Kisame are all powerscaled to Mach 1.7. Problem is Fairy Tail is mainly Mach 3.5+ from the calcs I've seen. Regardless Fairy Law ends the fight quickly.
I dunno. I'm just gonna stay away from the series I don't know.
1.7 calc from Zetta, I think he used low end.
Well Deva evading FRS is one feat.
Raikage is faster than Base Hachibi.
Itachi has to do with power scale. I forgot SM Jiraiya.
3.5 Mach thats what I am wondering about. How did they get that?
The Immortal Watch Dog
01-04-2010, 08:20 PM
you know instead of looking at speed and over all physical boom boom type stats
let's go a bit more entertaining and maybe even
what verses say have the esoteric abilities that could floor the narutoverse
but aren't so above them in terms of physical stats
Darth Caedus
01-04-2010, 08:22 PM
I think it was a Natsu DF calc. I don't remember. I went through and looked at it and it seemed legit. If I can find it I'll show it but I don't remember which forum it was on.
Who did Zetta calc?
But yeah only until recently did Naruto become able to compete with Fairy Tail. Fairy Tail still holds an edge from what I know.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 08:23 PM
Sword of Truth series minus omnipotents, Mother Confessor touched SOSP then She wins.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 08:26 PM
I think it was a Natsu DF calc. I don't remember. I went through and looked at it and it seemed legit. If I can find it I'll show it but I don't remember which forum it was on.
Who did Zetta calc?
But yeah only until recently did Naruto become able to compete with Fairy Tail. Fairy Tail still holds an edge from what I know.
The thing is I don't recall Fairy Tail having really quanitfiable feats. Only 3 peope has shown firearms. Wally Buchanan with a pistol, a Female who used sniper as ex quip and from a escapred hunter who wielded a rifle.
Zetta calculated Killerbee running away to a nearby small mountain and comparing to Jugo's falling speed I think.
Mainly because of Fairy Law it looks like now although how it affects Tailed beasts have always made me wonder.
Darth Caedus
01-04-2010, 08:33 PM
Well I'd like to point out that a large amount of my knowledge isn't in Naruto or Fairy Tail. It's in Star Wars, FF, Halo, and Saiyuki.
Naruto has caught up with Fairy Tail, but looking at all the wiki Fairy Tail holds an edge.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 08:35 PM
Well I'd like to point out that a large amount of my knowledge isn't in Naruto or Fairy Tail. It's in Star Wars, FF, Halo, and Saiyuki.
Naruto has caught up with Fairy Tail, but looking at all the wiki Fairy Tail holds an edge.
Ah.
Ah.
Yes I believe it has caught up to it.
Although not enough info on all top tiers in Naruto.
As for Natsu. That guy seriously fluctuates in tier.
Well thanks for your contribution on the Fairy Tail fiasco. As for the speed well I hope to someone else can tell me more.
Anyway whats Saiyuki, it sounds familiar.
Darth Caedus
01-04-2010, 08:37 PM
Natsu does fluctuate. As does the quality of the series itself.
Also didn't see your thing about Fairy Law and tailed beasts. I believe it's whatever the caster views as an enemy is what is attacked. So if Makarov sees them as an enemy, which he should, they're hit with it.
Saiyuki is a manga/anime series that depicts the Journey to the West legend of Chinese tradition. The Journey to the West is what Dragonball was VERY LOOSELY based off of. It's quite graphic though. I know the age of people here isn't as high as NF so most people here probably wouldn't have read it.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 08:40 PM
Natsu does fluctuate. As does the quality of the series itself.
Also didn't see your thing about Fairy Law and tailed beasts. I believe it's whatever the caster views as an enemy is what is attacked. So if Makarov sees them as an enemy, which he should, they're hit with it.
The Oracion Seis Arc. That guild, some of them are glass cannons likes.
And oops I also meant not enough info on all top tiers in Fairy Tail as well not just Naruto.
I know it would attack its just would it one shot it? Thats within debate.
As for Saiyuki. Oh that? I see, it must be good is it?
Darth Caedus
01-04-2010, 08:47 PM
Saiyuki is the only series that I actually still buy the manga of. I'd say it's really good.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 08:50 PM
I see, thx.
Sai9497
01-04-2010, 08:56 PM
dang....After reading all of this Naruto sucks!
Lone Wolf
01-04-2010, 09:01 PM
Unfortunately Teletubbies Verse > Narutoverse.
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 09:06 PM
dang....After reading all of this Naruto sucks!
Its a low tier verse. No longer weak to be in the bottom thx to Top tiers mostly.
Well within and pretty strong in the low tier zone in the accumulation of all fiction me thinks.
Unfortunately Teletubbies Verse > Narutoverse.
Because the Teletubbies Sun is actually a character althought it doesn't really do anything itself sits up there.
I still doubt Barneyverse.
Nyruss
01-04-2010, 09:44 PM
The lifespan of a star > the lifespan of the Narutoverse. The baby sun just sits there and waits for everyone in the Narutoverse to die of old age. :LOS
321zigzag1
01-04-2010, 09:58 PM
The lifespan of a star > the lifespan of the Narutoverse. The baby sun just sits there and waits for everyone in the Narutoverse to die of old age. :LOS
Oh?
Tailed Beasts don't age though.
Anyway lol.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 11:43 AM
Pokeverse, Twilight verse,Avatar verse. I dont watch much anime apart from Naruto so Im not sure what others there are.
ECW Original
01-05-2010, 11:44 AM
Pokemonverse rapes Narutoverse.Mewtwo and Arceus
321zigzag1
01-05-2010, 11:47 AM
Not pokemonverse because of the haxxed legendaries like Arceus, Palkia, Diagla , Celebi.
ECW Original
01-05-2010, 11:48 AM
And Mewtwo just flat out annihilates them.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 11:52 AM
And Mewtwo just flat out annihilates them.
Legendaries cause trouble. Apart from that though?
Naruto verse is much much much fsater than Pokeverse.And their attacks inflict more damage.
Nyruss
01-05-2010, 11:54 AM
Tell that to Dragonite's Hyperbeam.
Also, any Ghost pokemon rips their souls out.
ECW Original
01-05-2010, 11:54 AM
Legendaries cause trouble. Apart from that though?
Naruto verse is much much much fsater than Pokeverse.And their attacks inflict more damage.
Faster.Not really.Stronger.Maybe
Tell that to Dragonite's Hyperbeam.
Also, any Ghost pokemon rips their souls out.
Hypnosis,Dream Eater,Nightmare,Intangibility.
Pokemon is more hax than some people think.
ECW Original
01-05-2010, 11:59 AM
Hypnosis,Dream Eater,Nightmare,Intangibility.
Pokemon is more hax than some people think.
Darkrai
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 11:59 AM
Faster.Not really.Stronger.Maybe
Most ninjas base speed allows them to move inbetween 200 and 300mph
Increase that with Things like Sage Mode,or chakra concentration. And they are not even seeable. Pokemon have yet to show that speed.
And
Chibaku Tensei>Dragonites Hyper Beam.
And I have never seen a Ghost pokemon rip a soul from a body.
Ever..
Nyruss
01-05-2010, 12:01 PM
And I've never seen you display any shred of intelligence, but I accept that you have some.
ECW Original
01-05-2010, 12:01 PM
Most ninjas base speed allows them to move inbetween 200 and 300mph
Increase that with Things like Sage Mode,or chakra concentration. And they are not even seeable. Pokemon have yet to show that speed.
And
Chibaku Tensei>Dragonites Hyper Beam.
And I have never seen a Ghost pokemon rip a soul from a body.
Ever..
That's where Shedinja comes in...........sort of.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 12:09 PM
And I've never seen you display any shred of intelligence, but I accept that you have some.
Why are you getting so rude?I just displayed some intelligence?By stating some facts?
Most ninjas base speed allows them to move inbetween 200 and 300mph
Increase that with Things like Sage Mode,or chakra concentration. And they are not even seeable. Pokemon have yet to show that speed.
And
Chibaku Tensei>Dragonites Hyper Beam.
And I have never seen a Ghost pokemon rip a soul from a body.
Ever..
Dragonite showed such Speed.
Only thing I don't understand:
Start of Pokemon Series when meeting Bill Dragonite was so unbelievably big.
EDIT: Mewtwo was so fast when escaping the Lab it left a sort of Beam or Light after it.
Not saying Lightspeed hell no but IMO Sonic at least.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 12:13 PM
That's where Shedinja comes in...........sort of.
Shedinja has wonder guard. So only super effective attacks are able to hit it. And when they do,they on hit K.O, correct? So lightning style takes care of it
ECW Original
01-05-2010, 12:16 PM
Shedinja has wonder guard. So only super effective attacks are able to hit it. And when they do,they on hit K.O, correct? So lightning style takes care of it
It's immune to electric attacks.Fire style takes it out,though.I meant something about one of it's pokedex entries.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 12:21 PM
Dragonite showed such Speed.
Only thing I don't understand:
Start of Pokemon Series when meeting Bill Dragonite was so unbelievably big.
EDIT: Mewtwo was so fast when escaping the Lab it left a sort of Beam or Light after it.
Not saying Lightspeed hell no but IMO Sonic at least.
No,I agree with you there. And I know that Pokemon are fast. But no where naer Narutoverses levle of speed. I remember Dragonite moving, it was pretty fast,that was in the Orange Islands right?
However.It was still seeable.Sasuke -for example,took down a guy in Curse Mark lvl 2 form. In like,a milisecond(outside the base where Jugo was kept) 0.o
Another eg Sage Mode Jiraiya kicked Human Path into a wall so fast that it looked like he teleported.
Mewtwo is very fast .Of course,hes a lgendary it makes sense Lol But Like you said hes maybe Sonic Speed?Raikage is faster correct?
Like I said before,pokemon are fast but they are no where near Narutoverses speed.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 12:23 PM
It's immune to electric attacks.Fire style takes it out,though.I meant something about one of it's pokedex entries.
Ahh, well then in that case fire style takes it down. And why??What is the pokedex entry?
Ahh, well then in that case fire style takes it down. And why??What is the pokedex entry?
Ruby: Shedinja's Body doesnt move-not even a twitch.
In Fact,its body appears to be merely a hollow shell.It is believed that this Pokemon will steal the spirits of anyone peering into its hollow body from its back.
ECW Original
01-05-2010, 12:37 PM
Ruby: Shedinja's Body doesnt move-not even a twitch.
In Fact,its body appears to be merely a hollow shell.It is believed that this Pokemon will steal the spirits of anyone peering into its hollow body from its back.
That's it!Thanks
narutoultra
01-05-2010, 12:37 PM
last i checked Mewtwo was about equal to OPverse, Arceus was stronger than DBZverse, and Narutoverse has no counter for time travel by Dialga or Celebi.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 12:40 PM
Ruby: Shedinja's Body doesnt move-not even a twitch.
In Fact,its body appears to be merely a hollow shell.It is believed that this Pokemon will steal the spirits of anyone peering into its hollow body from its back.
Surely that is hype? ^_~
Its never happened ,so I dont think theres proof of it :O
Akatsuki X
01-05-2010, 12:41 PM
I hate it when people say that Naruto-verse is pathetic because its so weak on the list. Honestly thou, its weakness makes it sorta believable. I mean for example: DBZ is a good show and all, but after a while of just seeing them destroy everything kinda just ruins the plot
last i checked Mewtwo was about equal to OPverse, Arceus was stronger than DBZverse, and Narutoverse has no counter for time travel by Dialga.
Flight,Forcefields,Teleportation and its weird Pokeballs.
Was able to attack before a Pokemon with a Superhuman Brain could respond making it likely its hypersonic.
Also tried to lifewipe.
Surely that is hype? ^_~
Its never happened ,so I dont think theres proof of it :O
I only wrote what Pokedex said:
What is the pokedex entry?
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 12:47 PM
last i checked Mewtwo was about equal to OPverse, Arceus was stronger than DBZverse, and Narutoverse has no counter for time travel by Dialga or Celebi.
Umm Time Travel Helps them to escape battle, but how does that help them to inflict damage?
Oh Im sorry, what is the OP verse??Lol
And Ive never seen anything from Arceus to suggest that :O
It has the move Judgement-which is pretty poweful.But I still fail to see how it takes out the whole DBZ verse. or Naruto verse. Especiallly Bijuu
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 12:48 PM
I only wrote what Pokedex said:
O um sorry :( I thought u meant it could actually do that
ECW Original
01-05-2010, 12:49 PM
Umm Time Travel Helps them to escape battle, but how does that help them to inflict damage?
Oh Im sorry, what is the OP verse??Lol
And Ive never seen anything from Arceus to suggest that :O
It has the move Judgement-which is pretty poweful.But I still fail to see how it takes out the whole DBZ verse. or Naruto verse. Especiallly Bijuu
One Piece
Plates block attacks
Spam it
And Ive never seen anything from Arceus to suggest that :O
It has the move Judgement-which is pretty poweful.But I still fail to see how it takes out the whole DBZ verse. or Naruto verse. Especiallly Bijuu
Arceus created the Pokemon verse.Making it Nigh-Omnipotent.
It tanked a massive Meteor without effort.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 12:51 PM
One Piece
Plates block attacks
Spam it
Oooo One piece. And how exactly do the plates block attacks??Im a little slow ^_~
ECW Original
01-05-2010, 12:55 PM
Arceus created the Pokemon verse.Making it Nigh-Omnipotent.
It tanked a massive Meteor without effort.
I thought it blew up in his face and knocked him out.
Also about Pokemon:
Dialga sent People thousands of year through time.
While fighting Palkia they destroyed reality.Time/Space was literally collapsing in their fight.
Arceus>Them.
Also Arceus defeated the 3 Dragons at the same time in one Movie.
I thought it blew up in his face and knocked him out.
It didn't threaten his life though.
Plates were scattered though.
ECW Original
01-05-2010, 01:03 PM
It didn't threaten his life though.
Plates were scattered though.
Oh yeah..........yet all those pokemon managed to hurt him.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 01:07 PM
Also about Pokemon:
Dialga sent People thousands of year through time.
While fighting Palkia they destroyed reality.Time/Space was literally collapsing in their fight.
Arceus>Them.
Also Arceus defeated the 3 Dragons at the same time in one Movie.
Well thats all fine and dandy,however I still dont know how they can take out the bijuu,chibaku tensei and about 50 Boss Summons quick enough to beat the Narutoverse :/
ECW Original
01-05-2010, 01:11 PM
Spam Judgement and Mewtwo has his pokeballs.
Well thats all fine and dandy,however I still dont know how they can take out the bijuu,chibaku tensei and about 50 Boss Summons quick enough to beat the Narutoverse :/
With Time and Space control Speed is Irrelevant.
Dialga turns back time and kills Rikudou when he was born.
Or sends the whole Naruto people into dfferent time sections each.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 01:16 PM
Spam Judgement and Mewtwo has his pokeballs.
They can be destroyed by Boss Summons,bijuu. Or Tsunamis,Or Sand Tsunamis. Or shinra Tensei,or rasenshuriekns,or Amaterasu,or Kirin.
Chibaku Tensei surely>Arceus?????And Bijuu can probably take Judgememt attacks. Especially ones like the Kyuubi. Who can-by hype destroy mountains with a swipe of is claw.
Nyruss
01-05-2010, 01:17 PM
Wobbufett solos.
They can be destroyed by Boss Summons,bijuu. Or Tsunamis,Or Sand Tsunamis. Or shinra Tensei,or rasenshuriekns,or Amaterasu,or Kirin.
Proof?
Chibaku Tensei surely>Arceus No. Not even a little bit.
the Kyuubi. Who can-by hype destroy mountains with a swipe of is claw. Tail.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 01:18 PM
With Time and Space control Speed is Irrelevant.
Dialga turns back time and kills Rikudou when he was born.
Or sends the whole Naruto people into dfferent time sections each.
But has it ever done that ?:O
And even if it did do that,its still not killing the Narutoverse.
And by hype Rikudo should be able to take Dialga.
Nyruss
01-05-2010, 01:19 PM
Kill Rikudo Sennin as a baby. Problem solved.
And by hype Rikudo should be able to take Dialga. No, the RS could not defeat Dialga. Not even by hype.
ECW Original
01-05-2010, 01:22 PM
They can be destroyed by Boss Summons,bijuu. Or Tsunamis,Or Sand Tsunamis. Or shinra Tensei,or rasenshuriekns,or Amaterasu,or Kirin.
Chibaku Tensei surely>Arceus?????And Bijuu can probably take Judgememt attacks. Especially ones like the Kyuubi. Who can-by hype destroy mountains with a swipe of is claw.
Clue words-HYPE and PROBABLY
Mewtwo can easily make more pokeballs and he can cause storms.Did I mention Psychic?
It couldn't hold 8 tails,it won't hold Arceus.
ECW Original
01-05-2010, 01:24 PM
But has it ever done that ?:O
And even if it did do that,its still not killing the Narutoverse.
And by hype Rikudo should be able to take Dialga.
Technically,that is killing Narutoveese since it all started with Sage.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 01:25 PM
Kill Rikudo Sennin as a baby. Problem solved.
No, the RS could not defeat Dialga. Not even by hype.
:roll: Fine if your gonna be stubborn, so he kills Rikudo Sennin. That would means there is no Bijuu. How does the Pokeverse now kill the rest of the world?I still think Chibaku Tensei >Arceus :/ However,unfortunatly i have no arguement for Wobbaffet,apperently he can counter or mirror coat anything and everything.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 01:26 PM
Technically,that is killing Narutoveese since it all started with Sage.
He made Bijuu,he never made the the people??????????
Nyruss
01-05-2010, 01:27 PM
He was the founder of the ninja world. No RS, no ninjas. No ninjas, the Narutoverse dies even faster than they would with ninjas.
How does the Pokeverse now kill the rest of the world?
Same way it killed the Rikudo Sennin.
I still think Chibaku Tensei >Arceus And you're still wrong.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 01:32 PM
Wobbufett solos.
Proof?
No. Not even a little bit.
Tail.
O and theres no proof to say that Mewtwos Pokeballs can cath non-pokemon Lol Nor that they cant be destroyed by giant Toads,Sankes and Slugs sending fire,Acid and Giant Swords at them :S
And Why wouldnt Arceus be dstroyed by Chibaku tensei???V-V said a meteor knocked it out. So who knows what a chibaku tensei could do.
Nyruss
01-05-2010, 01:34 PM
O and theres no proof to say that Mewtwos Pokeballs can cath non-pokemon
A pokeball is a pokeball. It's matter to energy tech. It once caught a rice ball.
Lol Nor that they cant be destroyed by giant Toads,Sankes and Slugs sending fire,Acid and Giant Swords at them :S
I trust those Toads Sankes and Slugs have good aim to hit something so small.
And Why wouldnt Arceus be dstroyed by Chibaku tensei???
For reasons already specified.
V-V said a meteor knocked it out.
No, V-V said Arceus tanked the meteor without effort.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 01:35 PM
He was the founder of the ninja world. No RS, no ninjas. No ninjas, the Narutoverse dies even faster than they would with ninjas.
Same way it killed the Rikudo Sennin.
And you're still wrong.
And how exactly does Dialga survive Chibaku Tensei???It cant teleport everyone instantly, it takes a while. And if your gonna ask me for proof on everything Il ask you too. Proove that Dialga can beat Rikudo when he is aid to have the Juubi in his hands
Nyruss
01-05-2010, 01:40 PM
And how exactly does Dialga survive Chibaku Tensei???
Doesn't need to, since the Rikudo Sennin died when he was a baby and therefore never lived long enough to develop Chibaku Tensei.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 01:42 PM
A pokeball is a pokeball. It's matter to energy tech. It once caught a rice ball.
I trust those Toads Sankes and Slugs have good aim to hit something so small.
For reasons already specified.
No, V-V said Arceus tanked the meteor without effort.
I trust those Toads Snakes and Slugs are big enough to crush something so small??Not like you need precision,its underneath you,all they gotta do is sit down ???Or jump.
Well I want you to give me some new reasons, cus the way I see it, it was left off at-Dialga goes back in time and kills Rikudo Sennin. No reasons as to how. Especillay when he has the juubi.
And if u read on ull find that ECW said "didnt it hit Arceus in the face and knock it out?"(Or something along those lines) ,And V-V said,yes but nothing life threatening in otherwords. Arceus was taken down by a meteor which didnt kill it but knocked it out. And the way I see. That is a K.O.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 01:43 PM
Doesn't need to, since the Rikudo Sennin died when he was a baby and therefore never lived long enough to develop Chibaku Tensei.
I was talking about Peins :roll:
Dialgas time travelling takes time. In which time Peins chibaku tensei can kill it.
Nyruss
01-05-2010, 01:44 PM
I trust those Toads Snakes and Slugs are big enough to crush something so small??Not like you need precision,its underneath you,all they gotta do is sit down ???Or jump.
Good thing Mewtwo's got that crazy strong telekinesis to keep them in place then. :)
Well I want you to give me some new reasons, cus the way I see it, it was left off at-Dialga goes back in time and kills Rikudo Sennin. No reasons as to how. Especillay when he has the juubi.
Killed him as a baby. Unless you think he had all of his powers including the Juubi when he was a baby.
I was talking about Peins
Dialgas time travelling takes time. In which time Peins chibaku tensei can kill it.
No Rikudo Sennin = no Nagato.
Ultimate Deathsaurer
01-05-2010, 01:50 PM
Someone in this thread needs to watch the episode Dialga and Palkia! The Final Battle! where it shows their full power unleashed. Which was basicly a repeat performance of the Original Story. They were nerfed in the movies, badly.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 01:53 PM
Good thing Mewtwo's got that crazy strong telekinesis to keep them in place then. :)
Killed him as a baby. Unless you think he had all of his powers including the Juubi when he was a baby.
No Rikudo Sennin = no Nagato.
Ok,aaand ur still not answering my question, howdoes Dialga time travel?It requires time. In which Pein can Chibaku Tensei .It only takes a second .
And Mewtwo can be tooken down by Raikage? Speedblitz. Mewtwo is about Sonic Speed. Raikage is above that. Or I guess Acid Mist from Mei could burn its skin off?Or Naruto could Rasengan its face.Raiakge and SM Naruto are much faster after all. Mewtwo cant see them coming.
Ok,aaand ur still not answering my question, howdoes Dialga time travel?It requires time. In which Pein can Chibaku Tensei .It only takes a second .
And Mewtwo can be tooken down by Raikage? Speedblitz. Mewtwo is about Sonic Speed. Raikage is above that. Or I guess Acid Mist from Mei could burn its skin off?Or Naruto could Rasengan its face.Raiakge and SM Naruto are much faster after all. Mewtwo cant see them coming.
Mewtwo can be considered of having Hypersonic reactions for attacking before a Pokemon with Super Computer Brain could respond.
How Mewtwo escaped from Giovanni's Lab make it at least sonic.
Also Mewtwo can Teleport and knows Psychic which obviously is unbelievably fast.
Nyruss
01-05-2010, 01:58 PM
Ok,aaand ur still not answering my question, howdoes Dialga time travel?It requires time. In which Pein can Chibaku Tensei .It only takes a second .
Pain doesn't exist since the Rikudo Sennin was already killed long before the fight started.
And Mewtwo can be tooken down by Raikage? Not that it matters since the RIkudo Sennin's death means that he would never have become a ninja, and therefore never have achieved the power he does, but he'll have to move faster than Mewtwo can think. Telepathy FTW.
Or I guess Acid Mist from Mei could burn its skin offNot that it matters since the RIkudo Sennin's death means that she would never have become a ninja, and therefore never have achieved the power she does, but telekinesis means it doesn't leave her mouth and she burns to death inside out.
Or Naruto could Rasengan its face Not that it matters since the RIkudo Sennin's death means that he would never have become a ninja, and therefore never have achieved the power he does, but telekinesis/telepathy.
Ultimate Deathsaurer
01-05-2010, 02:03 PM
Interesting side note, Rayquaza flew into space (see The Worst Togepi in History) so Pokemon speed estimates may be WAAAAAY off.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 02:31 PM
Pain doesn't exist since the Rikudo Sennin was already killed long before the fight started.
Not that it matters since the RIkudo Sennin's death means that he would never have become a ninja, and therefore never have achieved the power he does, but he'll have to move faster than Mewtwo can think. Telepathy FTW.
Not that it matters since the RIkudo Sennin's death means that she would never have become a ninja, and therefore never have achieved the power she does, but telekinesis means it doesn't leave her mouth and she burns to death inside out.
Not that it matters since the RIkudo Sennin's death means that he would never have become a ninja, and therefore never have achieved the power he does, but telekinesis/telepathy.
In my experience of the debating in the battlegrounds ,Ive never seen anyone say anything about before the match even started.If we're gonna start talking about "before" the battle then i guess I could say, "before" it started , every pokemon in the world was captured.
Therefore theres no pokemon to fight. Narutoverse would win.
Since your allowed to make up tht Dialga travels back in time and kills Rikudo before the match starts then Im allowed to make my story up too ~_~
Nyruss
01-05-2010, 02:33 PM
In my experience of the debating in the battlegrounds ,Ive never seen anyone say anything about before the match even started.If we're gonna start talking about "before" the battle then i guess I could say, "before" it started , every pokemon in the world was captured.
Difference being, that the Pokemon have time travel and are therefore capable of killing the Rikudo Sennin as a baby, which was, yes, before this fight began. :P
Since your allowed to make up tht Dialga travels back in time and kills Rikudo before the match starts then Im allowed to make my story up too ~_~
Excet that it's not made up, it's a canonical ability
Abigail
01-05-2010, 02:35 PM
In my experience of the debating in the battlegrounds ,Ive never seen anyone say anything about before the match even started.If we're gonna start talking about "before" the battle then i guess I could say, "before" it started , every pokemon in the world was captured.
Therefore theres no pokemon to fight. Narutoverse would win.
Since your allowed to make up tht Dialga travels back in time and kills Rikudo before the match starts then Im allowed to make my story up too ~_~
One side had time travel abilities, the other doesn't.
Try to find some common sense.
The 1st Hokage
01-05-2010, 02:38 PM
dialga has the power to go back in time and stop it for a short time.that alone solo's narutoverse
Abigail
01-05-2010, 02:40 PM
Most ninjas base speed allows them to move inbetween 200 and 300mph
Increase that with Things like Sage Mode,or chakra concentration. And they are not even seeable. Pokemon have yet to show that speed.
And
Chibaku Tensei>Dragonites Hyper Beam.
And I have never seen a Ghost pokemon rip a soul from a body.
Ever..
Pidgeot's pokedex entry states it's Mach 2-3.
Interesting side note, Rayquaza flew into space (see The Worst Togepi in History) so Pokemon speed estimates may be WAAAAAY off.Also this.
321zigzag1
01-05-2010, 02:51 PM
KillerKunoichi, Time Travel, that alone says much.
Now its speculation if Diagla can survive Chibaku Tensei but it doesn't matter, Time travel.
Interesting side note, Rayquaza flew into space (see The Worst Togepi in History) so Pokemon speed estimates may be WAAAAAY off.
Anime Pokemon speeds has its own inconsistencies as well. But yes Rayquaza did do that.
Oh yes welcome to the this place, another well known OBDer.
Pidgeot's pokedex entry states it's Mach 2-3.
That too.
ECW Original
01-05-2010, 02:54 PM
Ok,aaand ur still not answering my question, howdoes Dialga time travel?It requires time. In which Pein can Chibaku Tensei .It only takes a second .
And Mewtwo can be tooken down by Raikage? Speedblitz. Mewtwo is about Sonic Speed. Raikage is above that. Or I guess Acid Mist from Mei could burn its skin off?Or Naruto could Rasengan its face.Raiakge and SM Naruto are much faster after all. Mewtwo cant see them coming.
Flight.Psychic.Pick one.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 02:55 PM
KillerKunoichi, Time Travel, that alone says much.
Now its speculation if Diagla can survive Chibaku Tensei but it doesn't matter, Time travel.
Anime Pokemon speeds has its own inconsistencies as well. But yes Rayquaza did do that.
Oh yes welcome to the this place, another well known OBDer.
That too.
Ok, I know that. Im not saying Narutoverse wouldnt struggle. pokeverse proves stronger than I thought. Well Legendaries do. However its a question of Can Dialga time travel faster than Chabaku Tensei activates?I dont think so.
Nyruss
01-05-2010, 02:56 PM
Doesn't matter because Pain never existed.
321zigzag1
01-05-2010, 02:57 PM
Ok, I know that. Im not saying Narutoverse wouldnt struggle. pokeverse proves stronger than I thought. Well Legendaries do. However its a question of Can Dialga time travel faster than Chabaku Tensei activates?I dont think so.
Pokemonverse is strong because of the legendaries and some haxxed movesets. Plus Ghost and Psychic pokemon are major threats too.
No Diagla can just simply slip through time when he wants instantly. I think.
The 1st Hokage
01-05-2010, 02:58 PM
it takes 3 seconds for him to make a wormhole to another time.thats all
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 02:59 PM
Doesn't matter because Pain never existed.
How? He exists in the Narutoverse. I hope ur not gonna say "Before this match starts, Dialga travels back in time and kills Rikudo" because obviously you cant say that. Its like saying someone can substitute a move in a debate. Its cheap :/
321zigzag1
01-05-2010, 03:00 PM
How? He exists in the Narutoverse. I hope ur not gonna say "Before this match starts, Dialga travels back in time and kills Rikudo" because obviously you cant say that. Its like saying someone can substitute a move in a debate. Its cheap :/
Cheap yet viable option.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 03:00 PM
Pokemonverse is strong because of the legendaries and some haxxed movesets. Plus Ghost and Psychic pokemon are major threats too.
No Diagla can just simply slip through time when he wants instantly. I think.
I hate to be a party crasher and a nag, but can ya give some sevidence ^_~
ECW Original
01-05-2010, 03:01 PM
How? He exists in the Narutoverse. I hope ur not gonna say "Before this match starts, Dialga travels back in time and kills Rikudo" because obviously you cant say that. Its like saying someone can substitute a move in a debate. Its cheap :/
So is Chaos Control and a lot of other stuff.It's still legal.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 03:02 PM
Cheap yet viable option.
Then I can just say, before the match started- all pokemon were captured by pokemon trainers. ????? If we're debating cheaply now, then Im not sure I want to debate at all.
321zigzag1
01-05-2010, 03:06 PM
Anime Arceus for an omnipotent is rather weak in durability the meteor which was like 5 or more times its size knocked it out.
I hate to be a party crasher and a nag, but can ya give some sevidence ^_~
Wait what evidence?
Then I can just say, before the match started- all pokemon were captured by pokemon trainers. ????? If we're debating cheaply now, then Im not sure I want to debate at all.
This has nothing to do with Narutoverse vs Pokeverse.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 03:06 PM
So is Chaos Control and a lot of other stuff.It's still legal.
At least Chaos Control happens in the thread, and is not made up randomly because the debater is running out of arguements :/
I dont debate cheap, so if thats way this going-Im outta here.
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 03:08 PM
Anime Arceus for an omnipotent is rather weak in durability the meteor which was like 5 or more times its size knocked it out.
Wait what evidence?
This has nothing to do with Narutoverse vs Pokeverse.
No,in fact it has nothing to do with the thread. Neither does anything that happens before the match seeing as how the match=the thread
321zigzag1
01-05-2010, 03:09 PM
At least Chaos Control happens in the thread, and is not made up randomly because the debater is running out of arguements :/
I dont debate cheap, so if thats way this going-Im outta here.
No one is debating cheaply we are comparing movesets and feats here.
Diagla can time travel so can Celebi, why can't they use it to their hearts' content?
The 1st Hokage
01-05-2010, 03:10 PM
lets make a thread for this instead of debating on this thread
Nyruss
01-05-2010, 03:17 PM
Another verse that could beat Naruto: 8 Bit Theater
Lady Tsunade
01-05-2010, 03:23 PM
No one is debating cheaply we are comparing movesets and feats here.
Diagla can time travel so can Celebi, why can't they use it to their hearts' content?
They can- but no before a mtach even starts,we cant even debate it then.
ECW Original
01-05-2010, 03:26 PM
They can- but no before a mtach even starts,we cant even debate it then.
They use it as soon as the battle starts.
321zigzag1
01-05-2010, 03:26 PM
They can- but no before a mtach even starts,we cant even debate it then.
Then how about this they time travel after the match starts that is still legal.
Nyruss
01-05-2010, 03:28 PM
we cant even debate it then.
And this is bad because...
Ultimate Deathsaurer
01-05-2010, 03:29 PM
Anime Arceus for an omnipotent is rather weak in durability the meteor which was like 5 or more times its size knocked it out.It was said rather openly in Double Team Turnover that Dialga and Palkia aren't at full power anymore. Cyrus said the orbs (which are part of Dialga and Palkia) full power could only be released by the Lake Guardians which latter happened in Dialga and Palkia! The Final Battle! where the 2 of them proceeded to make a new universe. The same logically applies to Arceus who displayed far more power inside his dimension than he did outside it.
321zigzag1
01-05-2010, 03:31 PM
It was said rather openly in Double Team Turnover that Dialga and Palkia aren't at full power anymore. Cyrus said the orbs (which are part of Dialga and Palkia) full power could only be released by the Lake Guardians which latter happened in Dialga and Palkia! The Final Battle! where the 2 of them proceeded to make a new universe. The same logically applies to Arceus who displayed far more power inside his dimension than he did outside it.
Understood. Thanks for clearing that up.
So the orbs do power fully ok.
I am not completely up to date on pokemon for the latest season right now.
Ultimate Deathsaurer
01-05-2010, 03:49 PM
So the orbs do power fully ok..
Not exactly. It's sealed away from them. Only Azelf, Mesprit, and Uxie can release it which again fits with what is said in the games about the 3 that bind space and time. To their credit the anime staff put alot of effort into making them reasonable.
Abigail
01-05-2010, 04:57 PM
Doesn't matter because Pain never existed.
Would you go so far as to say that time travel is a wonderful thing?
Nyruss
01-05-2010, 05:34 PM
Would you go so far as to say that time travel is a wonderful thing?
Absolutely.
I just thought of a verse that Naruto might be able to beat.
Ice Age verse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Age_(film_series)
321zigzag1
01-05-2010, 05:57 PM
Absolutely.
I just thought of a verse that Naruto might be able to beat.
Ice Age verse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Age_(film_series)
Adding on to that.
Final Fight
Street of Rage
Pirates of the Carribean
300
Virtua Fighter
I know there are several more at least.
Anyway what about Resident Evil?
ECW Original
01-05-2010, 06:15 PM
Adding on to that.
Final Fight
Street of Rage
Pirates of the Carribean
300
Virtua Fighter
I know there are several more at least.
Anyway what about Resident Evil?
Say wha?!
Frost ninja
01-05-2010, 06:15 PM
Was someone arguing that pokeverse dosent rape naruverse?
We are talking about the same pokeverse, yes?
With planet busters and tiny fox creatures named Eevee learning hyperbeam which is easily a city buster if you drag it across a lateral plain...
And Rhyhorn who, once it builds momentum, is a skyscraper breaker just with ramming?
And Mewtwo who can turn people into stone, teleport, throw up forcefields to block insane amounts of damage, throw small-building busters like crazy, have psychic powers...
Arceus who is a nigh omnipotent with casual planet buster abilities?
Magmar who can blow a hole through the side of a volcano with a single move and lives in molten lava...
Electrode who can use explosion which is easily massive damage...
Having moves like extreme speed which is close to a supersonic+/hypersonic range blitz move...
Having moves like mach punch which come full out and fire as a giant fist with insane speeds...
Moves like agility, acid armor, and swords dance to buff themselves to insane amounts...
Pokemon whos bodies are made entirely of poison...
Pokemon that can casually control nature... Pokemon that can heal themselves...
Pokemon that can fly...
Pokemon who can fly and city bust (aerodactyl)...
Pokemon that can wag their fingers and throw down a mountian buster+ out of random chance...
Pokemon that can possibly planet bust (Fissure, legendary birds almost planet bust just by fighting eachother)...
Pokemon that can create natural disasters (Earthquake, twister, sandstorm, ect...)...
Pokemon that can turn invisible to a point...
Pokemon that are made of metal...
Pokemon who can abuse time and space...
Pokemon who can spit out spores to paralyze, poison, or put their opponents to sleep in massive numbers...
Pokemon that can take people to the afterlife (Yes, theres a grim reaper-esque pokemon named dusknoir)...
Pokemon who can teleport...
pokemon that can fly and run across continents in mere seconds...
Pokemon that can put their opponents to sleep and eat their dreams...
Pokemon who can use Leech seed...
Pokemon who are named Wobbuffet...
Pokemon who turn gargantuan and casually city bust (Like giant tentecruel from 151)
Pokemon named ditto...
Vs naruverse? No... no chance. lol.
ECW Original
01-05-2010, 06:17 PM
Yeah,that Pokemonverse
321zigzag1
01-05-2010, 06:26 PM
Was someone arguing that pokeverse dosent rape naruverse?
lol.
You know you can just say Haxxed Legendaries and some haxxed movesets and some cheap pokemon. Its much simpler. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
Frost ninja
01-05-2010, 06:26 PM
better not be that pokeverse
and they are apt to deny stuff so I figured I'd list all the ways just for lulz
ECW Original
01-05-2010, 06:28 PM
You know you can just say Haxxed Legendaries and some haxxed movesets and some cheap pokemon. Its much simpler. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
But that was 100x funnier.
321zigzag1
01-05-2010, 06:35 PM
But that was 100x funnier. I didn't agree with some of the things Frost ninja said such as examples Electrode explosion?
Aerodactyl is citybuster?
And no pokemon can planet bust or has shown the capacity too yet.
Asides from Arceus and also Diagla and Palkia combined which goes to universe level I think.
Frost ninja
01-05-2010, 06:44 PM
I didn't agree with some of the things Frost ninja said such as examples Electrode explosion?
Aerodactyl is citybuster?
And no pokemon can planet bust or has shown the capacity too yet.
Asides from Arceus and also Diagla and Palkia combined which goes to universe level I think.
Electrode's explox makes massive crater and... well basically it does the same thing as a suicide bomber.
Aerodactyl is a city buster. Hyperbeam is multi-building buster, and he can fly and spread it constantly... He can bust a city in one fell swoop. It wouldnt be a problem, in fact it'd be easy.
Three legendary birds in "Legend of Lugia", Articuno zomg-dos and moltres start fighting and throw the entire world out of wack. Literally, they keep talking about them ending the entire world the whole dang time while Ash is juggernauting with the heaviest plot armor I've ever seen.
Well yeah, as far as fissure goes, it cracks the earth. If dialga were to use it, it would probably sever the world in two.
321zigzag1
01-05-2010, 07:02 PM
Electrode's explox makes massive crater and... well basically it does the same thing as a suicide bomber.
Aerodactyl is a city buster. Hyperbeam is multi-building buster, and he can fly and spread it constantly... He can bust a city in one fell swoop. It wouldnt be a problem, in fact it'd be easy.
Three legendary birds in "Legend of Lugia", Articuno zomg-dos and moltres start fighting and throw the entire world out of wack. Literally, they keep talking about them ending the entire world the whole dang time while Ash is juggernauting with the heaviest plot armor I've ever seen.
Well yeah, as far as fissure goes, it cracks the earth. If dialga were to use it, it would probably sever the world in two.
The crater is not that big from what I remember.
Proof? Also since when Aerodactyl's hyperbeam is multi building? If he is a city buster he can city bust in one swoop buit clearly it cannot. In fact far from it. If Aerodactyl is a city buster then it adds even more heavily to the inconsistencies.
The only dragon pokemon that partially busted a city was Lance's Dragonair in the Manga.
Yes the Movie 2000. Yes the world went wack. Ok I see why you said "planet buster" although its really different the way it went in the movie.
Fissure cracks the earth but we never seen such move from Diagla and not such big busting feats either from Diagla especially the anime version also its a time traveler.
Ultimate Deathsaurer
01-05-2010, 07:02 PM
Asides from Arceus and also Diagla and Palkia combined which goes to universe level I think.
Giratina is = to Dialga/Palkia. The Lake Guardians combined are aswell.Three legendary birds in "Legend of Lugia", Articuno zomg-dos and moltres start fighting and throw the entire world out of wack. Literally, they keep talking about them ending the entire world the whole dang time while Ash is juggernauting with the heaviest plot armor I've ever seen.
That isn't really planet busting. A mass extinction due to messed up weather patterns sure, but not a planet buster. Which is the stuff Groudon and Kyogre do solo.
Only the cosmic Pokes at full power have shown the nessicary power for that. Well more than nessicary but whatever.
Frost ninja
01-05-2010, 07:07 PM
Giratina is = to Dialga/Palkia. The Lake Guardians combined are aswell.
That isn't really planet busting. A mass extinction due to messed up weather patterns sure, but not a planet buster. Which is the stuff Groudon and Kyogre do solo.
Only the cosmic Pokes at full power have shown the nessicary power for that. Well more than nessicary but whatever.
Well ok I'll give you that, maybe not planet exploding but enough power to cause total extinction to everything on the planet.
ECW Original
01-05-2010, 07:10 PM
So more like life wiping?
Frost ninja
01-05-2010, 07:30 PM
The crater is not that big from what I remember.
Proof? Also since when Aerodactyl's hyperbeam is multi building? If he is a city buster he can city bust in one swoop buit clearly it cannot. In fact far from it. If Aerodactyl is a city buster then it adds even more heavily to the inconsistencies.
The only dragon pokemon that partially busted a city was Lance's Dragonair in the Manga.
Yes the Movie 2000. Yes the world went wack. Ok I see why you said "planet buster" although its really different the way it went in the movie.
Fissure cracks the earth but we never seen such move from Diagla and not such big busting feats either from Diagla especially the anime version also its a time traveler.
Electrode explox = massive crater. The explox is super powerful, its the most damaging attack in the entire game (250 power off of base) and electrode is imfamous for explosions. In "The great Race" episode, an electrode exploded with enough force to knock everything around it off of its feet and it left a nice sized crater.
Hyperbeam is easily multi-building. Roar from an Aerodactyl went on-par with a flamethrower from moltres... Unless your saying moltres isnt city buster either considering it almost caused world-range extinction. I'm pretty sure Hyperbeam > Roar too... Dont you agree? (Chapter 26, page 27)
Yeah, by planet buster I was aiming more for "Planet life ender"... I dont know what thats catagorized under...
Hm... What about roar of time?
321zigzag1
01-05-2010, 07:42 PM
Electrode explox = massive crater. The explox is super powerful, its the most damaging attack in the entire game (250 power off of base) and electrode is imfamous for explosions. In "The great Race" episode, an electrode exploded with enough force to knock everything around it off of its feet and it left a nice sized crater.
Hyperbeam is easily multi-building. Roar from an Aerodactyl went on-par with a flamethrower from moltres... Unless your saying moltres isnt city buster either considering it almost caused world-range extinction. I'm pretty sure Hyperbeam > Roar too... Dont you agree? (Chapter 26, page 27)
Yeah, by planet buster I was aiming more for "Planet life ender"... I dont know what thats catagorized under...
Hm... What about roar of time?
All you told me was that it is the most damaging attack which it is in the game, but we don't know its size in the game. I was thinking of more of the anime version but whatever.
The Great Race is that old episode and no the crater wasn't that big.
Anime? From what I know I don't remember any. Game? Unknown. Also hyperbeam isn't exactly the same for everyone. I know Anime Lugia's Aeroblast blew some parts of the Island of Lightning's crater off.
Since when Moltres has displayed any city busting? Especially the anime version. Also the Moltres clashing with the other 2 legendaries caused inbalance of the elements. A time ticking life wiper. However normally it doesn't occur on such scale unless Moltres caused such inbalance in the world and that doesn't happen in normal battles.
Ch. 26 P. 27? This is the manga citing? Under which Pokemon manga title?
Its a life Wiper in a sense but it happens more like over time.
Roar of Time is Diagla's signature move. A dragon based which is the strongest of dragon based moves. Diagla must recharge next turn like hyperbeam.
Frost ninja
01-05-2010, 07:55 PM
All you told me was that it is the most damaging attack which it is in the game, but we don't know its size in the game. I was thinking of more of the anime version but whatever.
The Great Race is that old episode and no the crater wasn't that big.
Anime? From what I know I don't remember any. Game? Unknown. Also hyperbeam isn't exactly the same for everyone. I know Anime Lugia's Aeroblast blew some parts of the Island of Lightning's crater off.
Since when Moltres has displayed any city busting? Especially the anime version. Also the Moltres clashing with the other 2 legendaries caused inbalance of the elements. A time ticking life wiper. However normally it doesn't occur on such scale unless Moltres caused such inbalance in the world and that doesn't happen in normal battles.
Ch. 26 P. 27? This is the manga citing? Under which Pokemon manga title?
Its a life Wiper in a sense but it happens more like over time.
Roar of Time is Diagla's signature move. A dragon based which is the strongest of dragon based moves. Diagla must recharge next turn like hyperbeam.
http://www.;);););););););).com/Pokemon_Special/26/27/
^^
I'll try to find electrode evidence, but... with all of the game entries, it wont be the easiest thing to look up a vid for.
I'd suppose, but... it distorts time so... yeah.
On the side of finer details which we are discussing, Naruverse still dosent have much of anything against pokeverse
321zigzag1
01-05-2010, 07:59 PM
http://www.;);););););););).com/Pokemon_Special/26/27/
^^
I'll try to find electrode evidence, but... with all of the game entries, it wont be the easiest thing to look up a vid for.
I'd suppose, but... it distorts time so... yeah.
On the side of finer details which we are discussing, Naruverse still dosent have much of anything against pokeverse
Well I remember the crater wasn't that big. lol its trainer survived although unconscious.
Roar of Time distorts time. It did in the Shadows of Almia pokemon ranger game.
Yeah because of haxxed legendaries, some haxxed movesets and some haxxed pokemon like ghost and psychic.
Although I am waiting for multi building bust feat and aerodactyl city bust feat. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2z7exox.png
Anyway thx for the link. although its not showing
Frost ninja
01-05-2010, 08:11 PM
Well I remember the crater wasn't that big. lol its trainer survived although unconscious.
Roar of Time distorts time. It did in the Shadows of Almia pokemon ranger game.
Yeah because of haxxed legendaries, some haxxed movesets and some haxxed pokemon like ghost and psychic.
Although I am waiting for multi building bust feat and aerodactyl city bust feat. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2z7exox.png
Anyway thx for the link. although its not showing
Trainers are clad in plot armor (Team rocket is just walking plot armor)
Sorry... its basically something I might get in trouble for posting here... one... manga... >_> <_< dont kill me
ok
Yes, and most of the other reasons albiet a few we're posting over
Magmar blew a hole in the side of a volcano with fire blast, and its only a fraction as strong as moltres... and then Aerodactyl's roar went on par with moltres's attack... and hyperbeam > roar... So... eah....
Heero75
01-05-2010, 08:12 PM
What the H*** is narutoverse
321zigzag1
01-05-2010, 08:19 PM
Trainers are clad in plot armor (Team rocket is just walking plot armor)
Sorry... its basically something I might get in trouble for posting here... one... manga... >_> <_< dont kill me
ok
Yes, and most of the other reasons albiet a few we're posting over
Magmar blew a hole in the side of a volcano with fire blast, and its only a fraction as strong as moltres... and then Aerodactyl's roar went on par with moltres's attack... and hyperbeam > roar... So... eah....
Team Rocket is an exception in general. As for the trainers well plot armor actually becomes significant if they bear any shred of being a protagonist.
Well you can type the title down alone. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2z7exox.png Anyway its fine. Why would I kill you?
Well I believe legendaries are big factors, most likely it is.
When did that happen?
Moltres in general is building level or less as seen in the anime. I am not saying hyperbeam being multi building is farfetched but I don't remember seeing any of it. So you used powerscaling. Well I know its at least building level+ when its strong.
What the H*** is narutoverse
Naruto Universe.
Frost ninja
01-05-2010, 08:32 PM
Team Rocket is an exception in general. As for the trainers well plot armor actually becomes significant if they bear any shred of being a protagonist.
Well you can type the title down alone. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2z7exox.png Anyway its fine. Why would I kill you?
Well I believe legendaries are big factors, most likely it is.
When did that happen?
Moltres in general is building level or less as seen in the anime. I am not saying hyperbeam being multi building is farfetched but I don't remember seeing any of it. So you used powerscaling. Well I know its at least building level+ when its strong.
It happened in Ash vs Blane battle. Magmar blew a hole in the side of the mountian... volcano... thing and then they saved the day.
And it got censored out so I thought it was against the rules.
if you say so...
321zigzag1
01-05-2010, 08:38 PM
It happened in Ash vs Blane battle. Magmar blew a hole in the side of the mountian... volcano... thing and then they saved the day.
And it got censored out so I thought it was against the rules.
if you say so...
Wait what? Wasn't it Team Rocket that caused the Volcanic trouble not Magmar?
Well I am not saying you are wrong, well at least in the anime I have yet to see it.
Silver's Salamence fought a Moltres and that Salamence wasn't multi building.
zebrakiller
01-05-2010, 08:44 PM
how can pokeverse possibly get beaten by narutoverse...as long as the legendaries are involved its a done deal.
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