Digiverse vs. Marvelverse

[Steven]

Who wins?

[The Demon Zabuza]

TOAA solos.

Unless mervel is a manga I've never heard of.

[Nick Tasogare]

Umm....What's the Mervalverise???? O.o

[Lone Wolf]

Whats Merval?

[Steven]

Whats Merval?

Sorry Marvel

[Lone Wolf]

TOAA solos then.

[321zigzag1]

TOAA soloes easily http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif.

[Steven]

TOAA solos.

Unless mervel is a manga I've never heard of.

I don't thank so TOAA is able to control the marvel universe not the digiverse

[Lone Wolf]

I don't thank so TOAA is able to control the marvel universe not the digiverse

An omnipotent like TOAA can solo all of fiction, that includes Digimon.

[The Demon Zabuza]

Title fix.

And TOAA is omnipotent, he has control over every single verse.

Either way, could he then not make every bacterium stronger than Galactus? Think it through.

[321zigzag1]

Its because TOAA is a True Omnipotent like on the level of God in fiction. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

[Lone Wolf]

Whats Marval? xD

[The Demon Zabuza]

I don't know what you're talking about.

>.>
<.<

[321zigzag1]

What happened to the original title? http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

I liked it. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF smilies/sun.png

[Abigail]

You know how much of a rape Digimonverse vs. One Piece, DBZ and Pokemonverses was?

This is basically the same thing only going the other way this time.

[Steven]

Title fix.

And TOAA is omnipotent, he has control over every single verse.

Either way, could he then not make every bacterium stronger than Galactus? Think it through.

No he doesn't control all universe

he is the god of his universe.

list of gods:
Marvel: One-Above-All
DC: Presence
Pokemon: Arceus
Digimon: Fanglongmon

there are a couple digimon that are between space and time and can't be controled.

[Steven]

You know how much of a rape Digimonverse vs. One Piece, DBZ and Pokemonverses was?

This is basically the same thing only going the other way this time.

Sorry Marvel can't rape Digiverse.

[Abigail]

No he doesn't control all universe

he is the god of his universe.

list of gods:
Marvel: One-Above-All Omnipotent - Omniversal level
DC: Presence Omnipotent - Omniversal level
Pokemon: Arceus Universal level
Digimon: Fanglongmon Multiversal level I think.

there are a couple digimon that are between space and time and can't be controled.Omnipotent says hi.Sorry Marvel can't rape Digiverse.
Omnipotent>>>>>>>>>>>any non-Omnipotent.

[Steven]

Omnipotent - Omniversal level
Omnipotent - Omniversal level
Universal level
Multiversal level I think.

Omnipotent says hi.
Omnipotent>>>>>>>>>>>any non-Omnipotent.

Omnipotent in comic or manga's means the god of there universe

god of your universe=Omnipotent

So Fanglongmon is Omnipotent he creates digimon gives from there power.

the four guardian digimon were create by Fanglongmon and only have a smell amount of his power and look how power they are.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

The One Above All easily solos.

[The Demon Zabuza]

Sit down, and think about what your saying.

What your saying is that TOAA would lose to sakura, since he has no powers in Narutoverse. Do you really believe that?

[Abigail]

Omnipotent in comic or manga's means the god of there universe
No, it doesn't.

Learn what it means.

[Steven]

The One Above All easily solos.

If you go to marvel.com and look up one-above-all it states he is Ominiverse of marvel universe not digimon universe, DBZverse or any universe other then marvel.

Many have speculated that the One Above All is God, but there is no evidence to support this presumption.

Marvel ranks his power at overall 5 while the phoenix and phoenix force is rank 42

So with his current power rank he doesn't even solo any universe.

and since you guys go by feats, please show proof of his power.

[ECW Original]

TOAA drinks some water,and digiverse dies horribly.

[Nyruss]

If you go to marvel.com and look up one-above-all it states he his Ominiverse of marvel universe not digimon universe, DBZverse or any universe other then marvel.

Many have speculated that the One Above All is God, but there is no evidence to support this presumption.

Marvel ranks his power at overall 5 while the phoenix and phoenix force is rank 42

So with his current power rank he doesn't even solo any universe. Are you mentally defective?

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

If you go to marvel.com and look up one-above-all it states he his Ominiverse of marvel universe not digimon universe, DBZverse or any universe other then marvel.

Many have speculated that the One Above All is God, but there is no evidence to support this presumption.

Marvel ranks his power at overall 5 while the phoenix and phoenix force is rank 42

So with his current power rank he doesn't even solo any universe.

He's Omnipotent, meaning he can do literally whatever what he wishes to, regardless of which dimension or world he's in, and that counts for NarutoVerse as well.

[Lone Wolf]

If you go to marvel.com and look up one-above-all it states he his Ominiverse of marvel universe not digimon universe, DBZverse or any universe other then marvel.

Many have speculated that the One Above All is God, but there is no evidence to support this presumption.

Marvel ranks his power at overall 5 while the phoenix and phoenix force is rank 42

So with his current power rank he doesn't even solo any universe.

Lolwut? So TOAA can't solo Twilightverse or Harry Potterverse?

[rocketjed1]

Lolwut? So TOAA can't solo Twilightverse or Harry Potterverse?
No, the vampires blind TOAA with they're sparkle. And Harry can just Expectopatroum's it.

[Steven]

He's Omnipotent, meaning he can do literally whatever what he wishes to, regardless of which dimension or world he's in, and that counts for NarutoVerse as well.

please show me proof a fight something that shows some feats he many have?

[Steven]

Lolwut? So TOAA can't solo Twilightverse or Harry Potterverse?

As I said give proof of his power stop powerscaling.

[Shkin]

Omnipotence/Omnipotents

Omnipotents are characters who are considered the be - all, end - all of characters and can literally do anything they damn well please because, well, they're all powerful and most of the time God. Who the hell is stupid enough to attempt to stop them, despite the fact that attempting to do so in the first place is pointless as it makes no difference to the outcome anyway

Now as to the talk of universes, a forum member stated that Marvel omnipotent is restricted to their universe...well there is this thing called multiverse. meaning 2 to infinite number of universe. Marvel has multiverse as well as megaverse. Digimon is multiversed too...now i'm sure Marvel omnipotent can invade and pawn the Digiverse...xDDD

[Steven]

Omnipotence/Omnipotents

Omnipotents are characters who are considered the be - all, end - all of characters and can literally do anything they damn well please because, well, they're all powerful and most of the time God. Who the hell is stupid enough to attempt to stop them, despite the fact that attempting to do so in the first place is pointless as it makes no difference to the outcome anyway

Now as to the talk of universes, a forum member stated that Marvel omnipotents arre restricted to their universe...well there is this thing called multiverse. meaning 2 to infinite number of universe. Marvel has multiverse as well as megaverse. Digimon is multibersed too...now i'm sure Marvel omnipotents can invade and pawn the Digiverse...xDDD


Note: Many have speculated that the One Above All is God, but there is no evidence to support this presumption.

If you have evidence please show us proof not just what people say until it is proven in the comic's he has no feats of power and would be kill with one hit Marvel ranks his durability at 1 many anything rookie and above can kill him.

[Nyruss]

1: His rating isn't 1, he just doesn't have a rating. 1 being the base for unrated.

2: Marvel.com official rankings mean jack ;);););), especially since Squirrel Girl is listed above a great many people she is plainly not above.

3: Are you really this stupid or are you just acting that way intentionally?

[Steven]

1: His rating isn't 1, he just doesn't have a rating. 1 being the base for unrated.

2: Marvel.com official rankings mean jack ;);););), especially since Squirrel Girl is listed above a great many people she is plainly not above.

3: Are you really this stupid or are you just acting that way intentionally?


aim I stupid, lets see no seeing as how most of the debater's on here debate by feats and not powerscaling, i'm debating by feats please give some feats he many have (Oh wait seeing how he hasn't really did anything in the comic he has non) there is no proof that he is a Omnipotent.

But if you have some please give it.

[Abigail]

Omnipotent's can not lose, only tie against other omnipotents. Theya re all powerful, as in infinite power. Nothing is above infinite.

Digimon has no Omnipotents, therefore TOAA wins along with many others such as The Living Tribunal, Pre-Retcon Beyonder and others.

[321zigzag1]

Did Steven just claim we are wanking TOAA and TOAA being omnipotent has no validity? Also since when Digiverse had any sort of omnipotency at all?

[Nyruss]

Yes, yes he did.

[Steven]

Omnipotent's can not lose, only tie against other omnipotents. Theya re all powerful, as in infinite power. Nothing is above infinite.

Digimon has no Omnipotents, therefore TOAA wins along with many others such as The Living Tribunal, Pre-Retcon Beyonder and others.


again would you listen to what your saying you saying someone who even in the marvel universe hasn't been proven to be all powerful he hasn't shown no power nothing plain and simple someone with no feats shown can not defeat a universe that has many feats.

[Miles Edgeworth]

TOAA rofl solos this.

But if he's banned due to lol wut hax, then get TLT, PR Beyonder, or HotU Thanos. They can all solo easily.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

TOAA solos with ease. You want a feat? Here you go:

He knows what's going to happen, what has happened, what is happening, what never will be and never was and never is. There is nothing TOAA doesn't know. Example: He prearranged events so Thanos would get the Heart of the Universe. As a direct result of that the universe was destroyed and recreated to fix some unknown fatal flaw that TOAA prearranged to exist so Thanos could fix it. Why did he have Thanos fix it? Why did he create the Heart of the Universe? Why didn't he do anything himself? Why did he make the universe with the fatal flaw? We don't know, and never will know. Mainly to sell comic books. Anywho, TOAA can preordain events so that Marvelverse wins with ease. He could power up someone like Iceman to the point of being invincible and all powerful.

Also, Marvelverse has WAY more multiverses than Digimonverse. Combine that with the fact that there are several individuals who can create MORE universes and that leads to literally unlimited universes and thereby power. TOAA is probably the greatest, or at least most well known, all powerful being in fiction to date. He is everywhere and everything, while at the same time actually nothing and nowhere. Digimon have a tangible "god", meaning he can be defeated. TOAA is not tangible or comprehensible, meaning he can't be beaten. Hell, he could make it so you can't even think about him without exploding or something. There is NOTHING he can't do, including destroy the Digiverse faster than time can comprehend.

[Steven]

Did Steven just claim we are wanking TOAA and TOAA being omnipotent has no validity? Also since when Digiverse had any sort of omnipotency at all?

So you have proof of this?

unless you can do something marvel them self has done and thats prove his all powerful please show me.

unless you have proof of his power he isn't omnipotent.

[321zigzag1]

again would you listen to what your saying you saying someone who even in the marvel universe hasn't been proven to be all powerful he hasn't shown no power nothing plain and simple someone with no feats shown can not defeat a universe that has many feats.

Dude TOAA being true omnipotent is not speculation. He really is one. Living Tribunal admitted it. TOAA appears in Doctor Strange comic somewhere.

Also responsible for marvelverse and its alternate realities and such.

You are the first person I have seen saying TOAA being omnipotent lacks validity.

[Nyruss]

If this were a fight focusing entirely on feats, you'd have a point. But it isn't. Powerscaling is a legitimate debating tactic, so long as you use it realistically and not for wanking.

If you don't want to accept that the One Above All can solo, there are still plenty of others to pick from. If you're so butthurt that you're willing to change the rules so that Digiverse wins(and let's face it, you are), then I recommend that you limit Marvel to street-level characters, but place no limits of Digiverse.

[Shkin]

The One Above All...abilities: omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent...how could you ask for more?

He manipulated Eternal Thanos into recreating the universe...

TOAA is the creator of Earth Universe and all other alternate realities..need i say more?

now as to a proof of fight you were asking for...you mean a fight between a digimon and TOAA? well its happening right now and TOAA is winning without even moving muscle..xD

and i haven't mentioned the Celestials of Marvel..xDDD

[321zigzag1]

If this were a fight focusing entirely on feats, you'd have a point. But it isn't. Powerscaling is a legitimate debating tactic, so long as you use it realistically and not for wanking.

If you don't want to accept that the One Above All can solo, there are still plenty of others to pick from. If you're so butthurt that you're willing to change the rules so that Digiverse wins(and let's face it, you are), then I recommend that you limit Marvel to street-level characters, but place no limits of Digiverse.

Tell that to [Shikamaru] *chuckles*

He and I debated on that in some thread.

[The Demon Zabuza]

We're wanking a character that can literally do anything.

How novel.

[Steven]

TOAA solos with ease. You want a feat? Here you go:

He knows what's going to happen, what has happened, what is happening, what never will be and never was and never is. There is nothing TOAA doesn't know. Example: He prearranged events so Thanos would get the Heart of the Universe. As a direct result of that the universe was destroyed and recreated to fix some unknown fatal flaw that TOAA prearranged to exist so Thanos could fix it. Why did he have Thanos fix it? Why did he create the Heart of the Universe? Why didn't he do anything himself? Why did he make the universe with the fatal flaw? We don't know, and never will know. Mainly to sell comic books. Anywho, TOAA can preordain events so that Marvelverse wins with ease. He could power up someone like Iceman to the point of being invincible and all powerful.

Also, Marvelverse has WAY more multiverses than Digimonverse. Combine that with the fact that there are several individuals who can create MORE universes and that leads to literally unlimited universes and thereby power. TOAA is probably the greatest, or at least most well known, all powerful being in fiction to date. He is everywhere and everything, while at the same time actually nothing and nowhere. Digimon have a tangible "god", meaning he can be defeated. TOAA is not tangible or comprehensible, meaning he can't be beaten. Hell, he could make it so you can't even think about him without exploding or something. There is NOTHING he can't do, including destroy the Digiverse faster than time can comprehend.

Marvel them self have stated there is no proof he is god or all powerful, with no proof of his power has he ever shown the feat of destroying a universe or creating one are gaving someone more power then they have or something proven his power.

I've never stated digimon wins in fact i'm not even debating that i'm debating the fact TOAA has no proven power.

[Shkin]

novel indeed...xD

[321zigzag1]

Marvel them self have stated there is no proof he is god or all powerful, with no proof of his power has he ever shown the feat of destroying a universe or creating one are gaving someone more power then they have or something proven his power.

I've never stated digimon wins in fact i'm not even debating that i'm debating the fact TOAA has no proven power.

Dude.

He appeared in the Doctor Strange Comic in 1976. Living Tribunal admitted TOAA is an omnipotent and like the other poster stated TOAA is above earth universe and everything including its alternate realities.

[Steven]

If this were a fight focusing entirely on feats, you'd have a point. But it isn't. Powerscaling is a legitimate debating tactic, so long as you use it realistically and not for wanking.

If you don't want to accept that the One Above All can solo, there are still plenty of others to pick from. If you're so butthurt that you're willing to change the rules so that Digiverse wins(and let's face it, you are), then I recommend that you limit Marvel to street-level characters, but place no limits of Digiverse.

lets face it i've never stated in any post i've made digiverse wins, there isn't a verse out there that can beat marvel.

I'm debating the fact that he has no proven feats can you prove he create the marvel universe beside just going by hear say or what someone wrote on wiki.

Marvel has never shown proof he created the universe its only hear say.

[Nyruss]

If they stated he did it, he did it. If you can prove otherwise, do so.

Once again, powerscaling is a legitimate debating tactic, so long as you use it realistically and not for wanking.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

Marvel them self have stated there is no proof he is god or all powerful, with no proof of his power has he ever shown the feat of destroying a universe or creating one are gaving someone more power then they have or something proven his power.

I've never stated digimon wins in fact i'm not even debating that i'm debating the fact TOAA has no proven power.
Alright, fine. No TOAA. How about Thanos with the Heart of the Universe? He has the feat of destroying and recreating the entire Marvel Multiverse in less than no time (literally). Since these two universes are squaring off, there needs to be somewhere they can do it. Thanos would be there, use the HotU, destroy that universe/ multiverse, reacreate it without Digimon existing, and Marvel wins. You can't deny that Thanos is omnipotent and omniscient with the HotU. Therefore he solos Digiverse.

[Steven]

Dude.

He appeared in the Doctor Strange Comic in 1976. Living Tribunal admitted TOAA is an omnipotent and like the other poster stated TOAA is above earth universe and everything including its alternate realities.

No he never stated he was omnipotent, he only stated he only anwsers to the one called One-Above-All, thats not proof of power.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

Can someone please explain why we're all debating against one guy?

[321zigzag1]

lets face it i've never stated in any post i've made digiverse wins, there isn't a verse out there that can beat marvel.

I'm debating the fact that he has no proven feats can you prove he create the marvel universe beside just going by hear say or what someone wrote on wiki.

Marvel has never shown proof he created the universe its only hear say.

So why did Living Tribunal say TOAA is an omnipotent and such?

Also I see where are you getting this Quote from. Marvelverse database wikia.

"Many have speculated that the One Above All is God, but there is no evidence to support this presumption. He has however been depicted as Stan Lee insinuating his being superior to all."

[Nyruss]

someone please explain why we're all debating against one guy? For kicks and giggles?

[The Demon Zabuza]

Can someone please explain why we're all debating against one guy?

Because he's sitting there ignoring the idea we can powerscale.

Look at it this way; It's not good to assume that Minato could beat everyone because he sealed the Kyuubi. But it's really OK to assume he can beat say, chunin, since he was Hokage.

If Living Tribunal looks up to him, he's fairly strong.

[Steven]

If they stated he did it, he did it. If you can prove otherwise, do so.

Once again, powerscaling is a legitimate debating tactic, so long as you use it realistically and not for wanking.

So if they said Batman had the power to destroy the universe would you believe or not.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

For kicks and giggles?
For you, anyways. xD

Because he's sitting there ignoring the idea we can powerscale.

Look at it this way; It's not good to assume that Minato could beat everyone because he sealed the Kyuubi. But it's really OK to assume he can beat say, chunin, since he was Hokage.

If Living Tribunal looks up to him, he's fairly strong.

[Miles Edgeworth]

So if they said Batman had the power to destroy the universe would you believe or not.

If he has prep time he does xD

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

So if they said Batman had the power to destroy the universe would you believe or not.

No with his natural abilities and normal weaponry, because that would just be wanking, not powerscaling.

BUT. . .if he had twenty centuries of prep time and the ability to travel to other parts of the galaxy, then it's possible...:cool: xDD

[321zigzag1]

Seriously Living Tribunal if I recall right did state TOAA is "God"

[Nyruss]

So if they said Batman had the power to destroy the universe would you believe or not.
No because that would be inconsistent with his character. Omnipotence is not inconsistent with the One-Above-All, who is explicitly the superior of the Living Tribunal.

[Steven]

If he has prep time he does xD


Your kidding right?

[Steven]

Seriously Living Tribunal if I recall right did state TOAA is "God"

If I recall right No he didn't.

[The Demon Zabuza]

Your kidding right?

He convinces someone stronger to destroy it for him. Problem solved.

[Steven]

No because that would be inconsistent with his character. Omnipotence is not inconsistent with the One-Above-All, who is explicitly the superior of the Living Tribunal.

Marvel has ranked him low because he has no shown feats, when he gets them then say he is all powerful.

[321zigzag1]

If I recall right No he didn't.

Oh really?

Going by what you said, so where did then this TOAA = omnipotence come from? Out of nowhere?

Not to mention TOAA gave Thanos the power to fix the entire universe and beyond.

[Nyruss]

Marvel has ranked him low because he has no shown feats, when he gets them then say he is all powerful. God, you're stupid.

[Steven]

Marvel wins this with many characters who have shown the power the solo there universe i'm debating because I know someone would say TOAA solo's even though he has no power feats what someever.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

Marvel has ranked him low because he has no shown feats, when he gets them then say he is all powerful.
Marvel has ranked him low because there isn't a level high enough for him to be in. It's been stated as FACT that he created the Marvel multiverse and is all powerful. It's a fact. FACT FACT FACT. You cannot debate against facts. The Marvelverse existing in itself is a feat of his all powerfulness. It's a FACT that he is omnipotent. You cannot keep denying that.

[321zigzag1]

Marvel wins this with many characters who have shown the power the solo there universe i'm debating because I know someone would say TOAA solo's even though he has no power feats what someever.

you are right Living Tribunal the near/nigh omnipotent who listens to TOAA only is actually listening to a powerless individual. Not to mention TOAA granted Thanos the power to fix Marvelverse entirely.

[Steven]

God, you're stupid.

am I stupid, i'm not the one giving someone power there creators hasn't given them.

Dude if I was powerscaling I would be saying the samething TOAA solo's but since i'm debating through feats and not powerscaling your calling me stupid.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

Marvel wins this with many characters who have shown the power the solo there universe i'm debating because I know someone would say TOAA solo's even though he has no power feats what someever.
Stop it. Now. You're just being stubborn and closeminded. I don't like resorting to personal attacks like this, but you need to accept that because the Marvelverse exists TOAA must have created it. Are you saying the Marvelverse just existed out of nowhere? Impossible. Marvelverse is a collection of comics, movies, action figures, and all things Marvel. Marvel was created. The collective amount of powers that be that made Marvel are personified as TOAA, meaning he has unlimited control of both Marvelverse and all fiction because that's how he was created and characterized.

[The Demon Zabuza]

aim I stupid, i'm not the one giving someone power there creators hasn't given them.

Dude if I was powerscaling I would be saying the samething TOAA solo's but since i'm debating through feats and not powerscaling your calling me stupid.

You spelt am wrong. It's a two letter word.

Let's let that answer your stupidity question.

[Steven]

you are right Living Tribunal the near/nigh omnipotent who listens to TOAA only is actually listening to a powerless individual. Not to mention TOAA granted Thanos the power to fix Marvelverse entirely.

i never stated he was powerless just featless, he could very well be stronger then Living Tribunal, but that doesn't make him all powerful, he didn't grant anyone power he had someone else grant him the power.

[Miles Edgeworth]

I'm pretty sure it was said that Heart of the Universe contained some of TOAA's power. "Some" of his power had the power to multiverse bust.

Does this clear things up?

[Steven]

You spelt am wrong. It's a two letter word.

Let's let that answer your stupidity question.

I know, typo its spelt Am I.

[Steven]

I'm pretty sure it was said that Heart of the Universe contained some of TOAA's power. "Some" of his power had the power to multiverse bust.

Does this clear things up?

Can you give proof of that, If so i'll drop this debate.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

I'm pretty sure it was said that Heart of the Universe contained some of TOAA's power. "Some" of his power had the power to multiverse bust.

Does this clear things up?
I can actually confirm this. I know for a fact that this is true. I remember reading it, and not on Wikipedia mind you.

[321zigzag1]

i never stated he was powerless just featless, he could very well be stronger then Living Tribunal, but that doesn't make him all powerful, he didn't grant anyone power he had someone else grant him the power.

Of course he is Living Tribunal admitted that.

You didn't answer my question of where did TOAA = omnipotence come from.

If TOAA didn't then who did?

[Vivi]

I see Steven is thinking he's a great debater again by bringing up useless stuff and being close-minded.

Anybody want me to lock this since the answer who wins this is clear and this just wastes our time?

[ECW Original]

Close it! Close it!Close it!............Closet!

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

It looks like a massacre in here.