Animal Pain vs...

[Phoenix Wright]

Animal Pain

vs

Shino
Kiba
Neji
Shikamaru

Who wins?

[Lone Wolf]

Animal Path have tea inside his Chameleon while his Cerberus do all the work. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2z7exox.png

[narutoultra]

Animal Pain would win, but the chuunin will put up a small fight. Shikamaru can direct the other ninja on what to do. Shino can possibly drain the dog of chakra, and Kiba should be able to take out the Crab. Neji can find where the Charmeleon is. They can't reach Pain on his bird though , and there are too many things that can go wrong. Kiba's strongest move takes too much prep. and they don't have a counter for the Bull or Panda.

[Skylar]

I think the "Team Chunin" would win, because of these reasons:

*Neji would be able to see the chameleon with his byakugan even if it turns invisible. *Shikamaru could possibly stop all the summons with shadow possesion, or at least stop Animal while Kiba uses fang over fang on Animal to kill him-thus stopping all the summons. *Neji could use rotation on any summons that get near him, which would protect him and hurt the summons. *Shino could use his insects to swarm either Animal or some of his summons-which would slow them down, and drain some of their chakra. *Kiba could smell the enemy even if they're invisible. *Neji could stop all the summons by using gentle fist on them-thus blocking their chakra network, which is the only thing keeping them moving(same thing would happen to Animal). *Shadow stiching could pierce some summons that r paralyzed by shadow possesion......

[ANIMELVR4EVR]

i think neji, kiba, shino, and shikamaru would win. neji would be able to see the animal thus telling it's location to the other three. shikamaru would be able to keep it in place with his shadow jutsus, letting kiba and shino to attack the beast.

[narutoultra]

I think the "Team Chunin" would win, because of these reasons:

*Neji would be able to see the chameleon with his byakugan even if it turns invisible. *Shikamaru could possibly stop all the summons with shadow possesion, or at least stop Animal while Kiba uses fang over fang on Animal to kill him-thus stopping all the summons. *Neji could use rotation on any summons that get near him, which would protect him and hurt the summons. *Shino could use his insects to swarm either Animal or some of his summons-which would slow them down, and drain some of their chakra. *Kiba could smell the enemy even if they're invisible. *Neji could stop all the summons by using gentle fist on them-thus blocking their chakra network, which is the only thing keeping them moving(same thing would happen to Animal). *Shadow stiching could pierce some summons that r paralyzed by shadow possesion......

Rotation giant animal summons, while KN0 penatrated it? Panda or Crab would easily get past that. The only possbible way for them to beat the dog is for Shino to drain to chakara. Don't forget Animal Path is faster than any of them also. He could speedblitz Shino or Shikamaru.

[Phoenix Wright]

I think the "Team Chunin" would win, because of these reasons:

*Neji would be able to see the chameleon with his byakugan even if it turns invisible. *Shikamaru could possibly stop all the summons with shadow possesion, or at least stop Animal while Kiba uses fang over fang on Animal to kill him-thus stopping all the summons. *Neji could use rotation on any summons that get near him, which would protect him and hurt the summons. *Shino could use his insects to swarm either Animal or some of his summons-which would slow them down, and drain some of their chakra. *Kiba could smell the enemy even if they're invisible. *Neji could stop all the summons by using gentle fist on them-thus blocking their chakra network, which is the only thing keeping them moving(same thing would happen to Animal). *Shadow stiching could pierce some summons that r paralyzed by shadow possesion......
HELL no...

Shikamaru's shadow possession was broken out of by Tayuya's brute strength alone, and not to say Shika has trained in two years, but compare a boss summon in terms of strength to Tayuya.

And even if Neji can see the chameleon, explain how they can reach him on his bird?

Rotation blocked barely a kunai slash from Naruto, again with two years, compared to the strength of a boss summon, so no. Just no.

His insects won't do crap to a giant rhino that can charge right through, and who's to say Shino has enough bugs?

See the bird. Plus Animal can take them if Kiba tries to prep any of his attacks.

They're so big that Neij's gentle fist won't do crap, and even if it did, they arguable have a chakra network as it is, it's a hell of a lot more chakra points than a human. The summons will hurt Neji way before he gets a chance to try and hurt it with his sissy-taps.

They won't be paralyzed to get hit by Shadow Stitching and they won't be tricked into it. These things are hundreds of meters big, and imagine if they jumped or the like.

[Phoenix Wright]

Okay, only one person posted before me countering Skylar, I hadn't refreshed the page so I was scared there'd be 2 more pages of debates. *Sigh of relief*

[Skylar]

HELL no...

Shikamaru's shadow possession was broken out of by Tayuya's brute strength alone, and not to say Shika has trained in two years, but compare a boss summon in terms of strength to Tayuya.

And even if Neji can see the chameleon, explain how they can reach him on his bird?

Rotation blocked barely a kunai slash from Naruto, again with two years, compared to the strength of a boss summon, so no. Just no.

His insects won't do crap to a giant rhino that can charge right through, and who's to say Shino has enough bugs?

See the bird. Plus Animal can take them if Kiba tries to prep any of his attacks.

They're so big that Neij's gentle fist won't do crap, and even if it did, they arguable have a chakra network as it is, it's a hell of a lot more chakra points than a human. The summons will hurt Neji way before he gets a chance to try and hurt it with his sissy-taps.

They won't be paralyzed to get hit by Shadow Stitching and they won't be tricked into it. These things are hundreds of meters big, and imagine if they jumped or the like.
Gosh dude, u don't have to be so freakin rude....

I was just stating a point of reason, since the thread was made by u and ur stating everything I said would be pointless. Then basically ur saying there is no battle and ur just trying to make a point, which would make u a troll........

[Skylar]

Rotation giant animal summons, while KN0 penatrated it? Panda or Crab would easily get past that. The only possbible way for them to beat the dog is for Shino to drain to chakara. Don't forget Animal Path is faster than any of them also. He could speedblitz Shino or Shikamaru.
That was Neji pre, I'll admit he probably won't be able use rotation succesfully on bigger summons but it might be able to stop the bird, centipede, dogs(when seperated). Also what's with the panda? All's he can do is block attacks. How is animal path faster than any of them? For one thing Shikamaru was able to react fast enough to dodge Kakuzu coming from behind and destroying a part of the roof Shika was standing on. Shino I don't know probably will get speedblitzed, but Animal has never shown any amazing speed feats(except in summoning).......

[Phoenix Wright]

Gosh dude, u don't have to be so freakin rude....

I was just stating a point of reason, since the thread was made by u and ur stating everything I said would be pointless. Then basically ur saying there is no battle and ur just trying to make a point, which would make u a troll........

Lolwut?

Who said I was being rude, I was just countering your points, and so what if I made the thread? You disagreed, I started a debate with you. Definition of a troll please? I don't think engaging in a debate would make me a troll, and I haven't flamed you or anything.

Countering none of what I said and just resorting to calling me rude? Not a great idea, but you can have another go.

Oh and I typed an entire different thing to counter your counter to Narutoultra's post, but I got interrupted and closed out, so good luck with that.

[321zigzag1]

Animal Realm Pain overwhelms them with too many boss summons usage of brute force. Also they are not stopping cereberus.

[Skylar]

Lolwut?

Who said I was being rude, I was just countering your points, and so what if I made the thread? You disagreed, I started a debate with you. Definition of a troll please? I don't think engaging in a debate would make me a troll, and I haven't flamed you or anything.

Countering none of what I said and just resorting to calling me rude? Not a great idea, but you can have another go.

Oh and I typed an entire different thing to counter your counter to Narutoultra's post, but I got interrupted and closed out, so good luck with that.
Last time I checked starting a debate or even a conversation with the words "Hell no" in it, isn't exactly common courdesy. I mean yeah I could see if we were having a debate that had been going on for about a page or so, and I said something really stupid then yeah I could see u saying hell no or something like that. But dude learn some manners I mean seriously? Who the crap says(or in this case posts) hell no to someone that just pointed out some points-I mean it wasn't like I said "everyone needs to know team chunin would stomp Animal" or something like that. If u read ur counter it seemed like u were basically calling me stupid or something. Yeah some of my points were really off but dude just post ur counter and not get Pissed, ok........?

Whatever helps u sleep at night dude, I mean I was thinking about changing my vote to Animal for all the good points people were making on here. But now I don't want to give u the pleasure of that, so I still say team chunin would win becasue if Shikamaru could throw one of his trench knives at Animal's shadow(or trick him like he did to Hidan and Kakuzu) then kill Animal with shadow stiching, or have another member kill him before he gets the chance to take anyone out with a summoning......

[Phoenix Wright]

Last time I checked starting a debate or even a conversation with the words "Hell no" in it, isn't exactly common courdesy. I mean yeah I could see if we were having a debate that had been going on for about a page or so, and I said something really stupid then yeah I could see u saying hell no or something like that. But dude learn some manners I mean seriously? Who the crap says(or in this case posts) hell no to someone that just pointed out some points-I mean it wasn't like I said "everyone needs to know team chunin would stomp Animal" or something like that. If u read ur counter it seemed like u were basically calling me stupid or something. Yeah some of my points were really off but dude just post ur counter and not get Pissed, ok........?

Whatever helps u sleep at night dude, I mean I was thinking about changing my vote to Animal for all the good points people were making on here. But now I don't want to give u the pleasure of that, so I still say team chunin would win becasue if Shikamaru could throw one of his trench knives at Animal's shadow(or trick him like he did to Hidan and Kakuzu) then kill Animal with shadow stiching, or have another member kill him before he gets the chance to take anyone out with a summoning......
Riiiight... That really helps me sleep at night to know I told somebody off on the Naruto Forums. xD

Courtesy, is the correction. Sorry, I'm a Grammar Nazi.

And I wasn't calling you stupid, that'd be flaming, and I never would flame, I'm not that dumb (Although if I ever got banned I'd just post in the OBD), but In my opinion it wasn't the right choice and I thought it was such a stomp that "No just no" wouldn't cut it that time.:lol:

Actually, not many people have posted other than me, but just because you want to whine and be stubborn about your vote that's fine. And to counter, I don't think a brute monster is going to stop and wonder what's going on if the trench knife is thrown.

Animal Pain is a Pain body nonetheless, and even without powerscaling I can figure he can make a summon before someone like Shikamaru can get to him.

[Skylar]

Riiiight... That really helps me sleep at night to know I told somebody off on the Naruto Forums. xD

Courtesy, is the correction. Sorry, I'm a Grammar Nazi.

And I wasn't calling you stupid, that'd be flaming, and I never would flame, I'm not that dumb (Although if I ever got banned I'd just post in the OBD), but In my opinion it wasn't the right choice and I thought it was such a stomp that "No just no" wouldn't cut it that time.:lol:

Actually, not many people have posted other than me, but just because you want to whine and be stubborn about your vote that's fine. And to counter, I don't think a brute monster is going to stop and wonder what's going on if the trench knife is thrown.

Animal Pain is a Pain body nonetheless, and even without powerscaling I can figure he can make a summon before someone like Shikamaru can get to him.
Yeah, u might want to reconsider what u post before u post next time. Ok?;)

Yeah I guess ur right, cause I was WAY out of line:lol:(and yeah, I'm joking) not many people have posted other than u, meaning u shouldn't get so worked up over me disagreeing with u. And please don't say "Who said I was getting worked up XD" Cause when u start a post with hell no, well it doesn't really help u there....

Yeah ur right it won't, but then again the trap isn't for the summon, its for the summoner. Take out the summoner, it eliminates the summon :). Shikamaru and the rest of the team arn't just going to stand there and take a trampling from a summoning, they would try and get out of the way and then try and take out Animal. They won't be able to blitze animal, but they could get to him eventually, even with a couple of casualties. Neji could use gentle fist on the dogs, which would disrupt their chakra-thus destroying them. All Shika has to do throw a trench knife at Animal's shadow and that would stop him from summoning any more summons, he'd probably have time to summon 3 before that but the others could try to hold them off(it might not end well) while Shika goes to finish Animal off........

[321zigzag1]

How is gentle fist going to defeat a huge summon?

[Skylar]

Well it wouldn't hurt the rhino, ram, crab, chameleon, or the panda. I can't remember anyone else with somewhat good armor, but the dog(when it's multiplied) when they're multiplied they are a bit smaller. The bird(probably won't get the chance to though) and the Dog are the only ones that don't have tough skin-thus easier to hit the chakra points. Neji can see they're chakra points, and just has to avoid getting hit and hit they're chakra points............

It would defeat the dog, by hitting its chakra points. Summons r there as long as their summoner wants them to be, until they get killed, or until they don't have anymore chakra. The gentle fist would block the summons(dog) chakra which should defeat it, or at least stop its movement........

[otacon]

Gosh dude, u don't have to be so freakin rude....

I was just stating a point of reason, since the thread was made by u and ur stating everything I said would be pointless. Then basically ur saying there is no battle and ur just trying to make a point, which would make u a troll........

dissagrment and trying to make a counter argument is pretty much the opposite of being a troll. Anyways, Animal path wins, his immense summons woulds overwhelm many in the narutoverse, and definatly the four mentioned

[Skylar]

dissagrment and trying to make a counter argument is pretty much the opposite of being a troll. Anyways, Animal path wins, his immense summons woulds overwhelm many in the narutoverse, and definatly the four mentioned
Here is the way I see it-Troll=someone who makes a intentional stomp thread. Trueborn made the thread, and didn't really post anymore until I posted a point that didn't go along with everyone elses. Up until then everyone was agreeing with him that Animal would win. I didn't say "Team chunin stomps, for these reasons" or anything like that, I said "I think team chunin would win for these reasons". What did Trueborn say? Did he say "I don't think so" or "Most of those points don't make sence"? No, he said "Hell no" and countered(but he really just said everything I said was wrong, even though some parts made sence) Meaning he never intended for anyone to vote for team chunin cause it was such a stomp=Troll thread......

I'm just saying it seems suspiciously trolly. Why get that mad at a point, when I wasn't even countering anything of his? When u say "hell no" ur either mad, or we're in oppisite world and he was politley saying no.....

[otacon]

Here is the way I see it-Troll=someone who makes a intentional stomp thread. Trueborn made the thread, and didn't really post anymore until I posted a point that didn't go along with everyone elses. Up until then everyone was agreeing with him that Animal would win. I didn't say "Team chunin stomps, for these reasons" or anything like that, I said "I think team chunin would win for these reasons". What did Trueborn say? Did he say "I don't think so" or "Most of those points don't make sence"? No, he said "Hell no" and countered(but he really just said everything I said was wrong, even though some parts made sence) Meaning he never intended for anyone to vote for team chunin cause it was such a stomp=Troll thread......

I'm just saying it seems suspiciously trolly. Why get that mad at a point, when I wasn't even countering anything of his? When u say "hell no" ur either mad, or we're in oppisite world and he was politley saying no.....

It is a stomp thread, and I give you props for comingup with a well thought out argument in defense of side B. And yes, I agree that replying with hell no is not really polite, and your Ideas should not be RUDELY bellittled. However that still doesn't make him a troll, as it is okay to make a counter argument to your counter argument, even if the thread may have been set up in order for the person who made the tread to do just that. Politness should be a high priority though, as it can be quite rude otherwise.

[Phoenix Wright]

And exactly, you see, I'm not a troll, because a lot of people know me from this forum, and have I ever trolled? A troll is when someone like NL comes on the thread and says Naruto rapes Galactus, but he doesn't really believe it. It's not that hard to believe that I ACTUALLY think Animal Pain wins. Its not that much of a stomp as Galactus vs Naruto anyway.

And some people need to suck it up that I might not be as polite as you'd like to be, but life's unfair. ;)

And I would have countered awhile ago and from above, but I had to go and when I got back (just now) I only read the last two posts.

[Phoenix Wright]

Well it wouldn't hurt the rhino, ram, crab, chameleon, or the panda. I can't remember anyone else with somewhat good armor, but the dog(when it's multiplied) when they're multiplied they are a bit smaller. The bird(probably won't get the chance to though) and the Dog are the only ones that don't have tough skin-thus easier to hit the chakra points. Neji can see they're chakra points, and just has to avoid getting hit and hit they're chakra points............

It would defeat the dog, by hitting its chakra points. Summons r there as long as their summoner wants them to be, until they get killed, or until they don't have anymore chakra. The gentle fist would block the summons(dog) chakra which should defeat it, or at least stop its movement........

Okay now I can counter, turns out the third to last post was actually a counter *Facepalm*

The dog while multiplied, yes, WHILE multiplied, is bigger than Gamaken, which is 3/4 the size of Gamabunta. I can show scans to prove it (Just tell you the page number and chapter), but I'm not seriously gonna look it up, I wasted so much time on that before. In the Jiraiya fight, you can see the dog on the building is as tall as a building while Gamaken's building is that size, but Gamaken is nearly touching ground. And yes the dog reaches all the way down.

When the dog splits it charged at Gamaken and you can CLEARLY see a multiplied dog is a bit bigger than him alone. Still, a split dog could take someone like Neji, in my opinion.

The bird, it charged at Gamaken as well, and you can tell that's hundreds of meters wide like I stated above, although you never did counter how they could reach him on the bird.

[Skylar]

And exactly, you see, I'm not a troll, because a lot of people know me from this forum, and have I ever trolled? A troll is when someone like NL comes on the thread and says Naruto rapes Galactus, but he doesn't really believe it. It's not that hard to believe that I ACTUALLY think Animal Pain wins. Its not that much of a stomp as Galactus vs Naruto anyway.

And some people need to suck it up that I might not be as polite as you'd like to be, but life's unfair. ;)

And I would have countered awhile ago and from above, but I had to go and when I got back (just now) I only read the last two posts.
It doesn't really matter if people know u from the forum, u could still make a troll thread just because u think u could get away with it. According to u it was a huge stomp from the way ur countered me.............

Oh thank u oh wise guru I will listen to ur words of wisdom :lol: just kidding. Last time I checked the forum isn't real life;)........

Yeah in real life it is unfair, but u can actually think for a while before u post something, and could change something that u said was bad or apoligize for being rude-But then again I guess I don't really care, because it just makes u look bad anyways:p......

I mean who started this arguement in the first place? You getting mad at my post, I was just telling u that u shouldn't get so worked up over my reason, I mean it wasn't like I said Team chunin would stomp or they could win the fight unscaved-Just try not to get so worked up over a post that had just a few bad reasons on it. Getting mad over one point of view, well doesn't really make u look good..........






As for ur last post here is a counter......Naruto's clones were able to hit one of them with a rasengan-I know he was in sage made, but I was just making a point, size isn't always great.........Neji doesn't have to kill the dog or send him flying backwards, all he has to do is hit his chakra points. No matter how big the dog is it'll block his chakra..........Lets also not forget Neji's air palm, it could probaly knock the dogs back a little bit or at least on of them.........Another thing is Shikamaru could think of a plan to get around the summons and take out Animal...........

[321zigzag1]

Except the Dog Summon is big as a boss summon. Plus the summon size is too big for Neji to hit the chakra points.

Neji will get mauled.

[Phoenix Wright]

It doesn't really matter if people know u from the forum, u could still make a troll thread just because u think u could get away with it. According to u it was a huge stomp from the way ur countered me.............

Oh thank u oh wise guru I will listen to ur words of wisdom :lol: just kidding. Last time I checked the forum isn't real life;)........

Yeah in real life it is unfair, but u can actually think for a while before u post something, and could change something that u said was bad or apoligize for being rude-But then again I guess I don't really care, because it just makes u look bad anyways:p......

I mean who started this arguement in the first place? You getting mad at my post, I was just telling u that u shouldn't get so worked up over my reason, I mean it wasn't like I said Team chunin would stomp or they could win the fight unscaved-Just try not to get so worked up over a post that had just a few bad reasons on it. Getting mad over one point of view, well doesn't really make u look good..........






As for ur last post here is a counter......Naruto's clones were able to hit one of them with a rasengan-I know he was in sage made, but I was just making a point, size isn't always great.........Neji doesn't have to kill the dog or send him flying backwards, all he has to do is hit his chakra points. No matter how big the dog is it'll block his chakra..........Lets also not forget Neji's air palm, it could probaly knock the dogs back a little bit or at least on of them.........Another thing is Shikamaru could think of a plan to get around the summons and take out Animal...........
But I don't think I could get away with it, because I didn't make a troll 'thread' so to speak. I didn't pick the obvious wrong answer, I picked the obvious right one. And yeah, according to me it is a huge stomp. In my favor though, I'm not a troll *Facepalm* This is my main Viz account. Really.

And no, forum isn't real life but while you are typing it is real life and and sometimes its unfair the way people treat you, and you have to deal with it.

I didn't have to think to counter because I knew what I was going to say, it really doesn't matter if I was going to say "WHAT THE FU-BOOOM" Or "Lol ur so wrong" Or even "Ya i ttly a gree"

I could apologize for being rude, but like I said I'm not a polite person. And it doesn't make me look as bad as when you don't change your vote just to 'not give me the pleasure'.

And I'm not getting worked up, I responded saying hell no because you were obviously wrong, then you got a little angry that I disagreed in a 'mean' sort of way.

And Naruto in Sage Mode is way faster than Shikamaru and Neji. The animals are hundreds of meters big like I said, so imagine if they did something like jump. Neji won't have any time to hit them because he'll be flattened or killed beforehand. If they don't, these huge boss summons were summoned from a scroll so I doubt they have actual chakra points, but if they do it's not gonna hurt them much. And if the summons swarm Neji, or even all the dogs, he can't hit them all or rotate them away.

And air palm shouldn't do much either, did I mention the animals were hundreds of meters big, even the separated dogs?

How exactly will Shikamaru think of a plan then? You stated it, think of an example. Shikamaru's best intelligence feat was when he killed Hidan, but even I could figure to bury him underground. And even if he did get Kakuzu's blood, it's not the best 'smart' thing someone could do, I mean, anyone would figure "lolz he eats blood then hurts the person who's blood he drank o wait lets get his teammates blood"

Like I said, he can not stop them with Shadow Possession, and there's no way they can reach him on his bird which you STILL haven't countered.

[Phoenix Wright]

Except the Dog Summon is big as a boss summon. Plus the summon size is too big for Neji to hit the chakra points.

Neji will get mauled.

Yeah, that's what I said.

And for the record a split dog is still bigger than a boss summon.

[Skylar]

But I don't think I could get away with it, because I didn't make a troll 'thread' so to speak. I didn't pick the obvious wrong answer, I picked the obvious right one. And yeah, according to me it is a huge stomp. In my favor though, I'm not a troll *Facepalm* This is my main Viz account. Really.

And no, forum isn't real life but while you are typing it is real life and and sometimes its unfair the way people treat you, and you have to deal with it.

I didn't have to think to counter because I knew what I was going to say, it really doesn't matter if I was going to say "WHAT THE FU-BOOOM" Or "Lol ur so wrong" Or even "Ya i ttly a gree"

I could apologize for being rude, but like I said I'm not a polite person. And it doesn't make me look as bad as when you don't change your vote just to 'not give me the pleasure'.

And I'm not getting worked up, I responded saying hell no because you were obviously wrong, then you got a little angry that I disagreed in a 'mean' sort of way.

And Naruto in Sage Mode is way faster than Shikamaru and Neji. The animals are hundreds of meters big like I said, so imagine if they did something like jump. Neji won't have any time to hit them because he'll be flattened or killed beforehand. If they don't, these huge boss summons were summoned from a scroll so I doubt they have actual chakra points, but if they do it's not gonna hurt them much. And if the summons swarm Neji, or even all the dogs, he can't hit them all or rotate them away.

And air palm shouldn't do much either, did I mention the animals were hundreds of meters big, even the separated dogs?

How exactly will Shikamaru think of a plan then? You stated it, think of an example. Shikamaru's best intelligence feat was when he killed Hidan, but even I could figure to bury him underground. And even if he did get Kakuzu's blood, it's not the best 'smart' thing someone could do, I mean, anyone would figure "lolz he eats blood then hurts the person who's blood he drank o wait lets get his teammates blood"

Like I said, he can not stop them with Shadow Possession, and there's no way they can reach him on his bird which you STILL haven't countered.
Not a polite person ah? Ok fine, I play by ur little game......

Gee thanks Dr.Phil, but lets just leave it at I have manners and u don't. Sorry if that came out as an insult towards u, but then again I guess u don't mind seeing as the forum is real life to u and life is unfair.....

Yeah the main reason I didn't want to give u the pleasure of being right is really because for 1.I still believe team chunin have a chance of winning, 2.At first I was just trying to do an impression of the way u were acting. Hundreds of meters big? Well now I didn't know I was debating with a 5 year old. When u give the width of the summon, try to be more accurate..........

Anyone can tell they're big, the problem is the dogs when multiplied are still a bit smaller they arn't "hundreds and hundreds of meters long" an air palm isn't just going to phase past them-the rhino and ram, and others like it maybe. But the dog is still smaller and doesn't way as much as them so please stop comparing there traits to it. The problem with u is that u think team chunin is just going to stand there and get flattened, what u don't realize is that they can move just like Animal can summon........

Well lets think of a plan for Shikamaru, shall we? Maybe he could have Neji scan for any movement from Animal, have Kiba and Akamaru attack Animal from the front(oblivously Animal will summon something) just to see his form of attack, have Shino try and use secret technique insect globe on Animal-nothing for Animal to do, he has no summons that could stop the insects from hitting him; Bird will just dive bomb through them but nothing will really happen, panda the bugs will go around, ect ect ect. The only one that could do anything would be the crab and its foam, however the bugs could just avoid the foam seeing as they have somewhat good speed being able to catch Mandara/Tobi off guard and surrond him, and even if that happens Shikamaru could take that oppurtunity to use shadow possesion on Animal........Thats the best I could come up with for right now......

The summons can't jump because of their wieght, except for the dogs and bird who can somewhat fly. Yeah actually I do have a counter for the bird-When a bird fly's it casts a shadow don't it? Meaning Shikamaru would be able to stop them in mid air........

[otacon]

This is getting interesting. seriously, Doctor Phil?

[Vivi]

Too much to read -_-.

[Phoenix Wright]

Not a polite person ah? Ok fine, I play by ur little game......

Gee thanks Dr.Phil, but lets just leave it at I have manners and u don't. Sorry if that came out as an insult towards u, but then again I guess u don't mind seeing as the forum is real life to u and life is unfair.....

Yeah the main reason I didn't want to give u the pleasure of being right is really because for 1.I still believe team chunin have a chance of winning, 2.At first I was just trying to do an impression of the way u were acting. Hundreds of meters big? Well now I didn't know I was debating with a 5 year old. When u give the width of the summon, try to be more accurate..........

Anyone can tell they're big, the problem is the dogs when multiplied are still a bit smaller they arn't "hundreds and hundreds of meters long" an air palm isn't just going to phase past them-the rhino and ram, and others like it maybe. But the dog is still smaller and doesn't way as much as them so please stop comparing there traits to it. The problem with u is that u think team chunin is just going to stand there and get flattened, what u don't realize is that they can move just like Animal can summon........

Well lets think of a plan for Shikamaru, shall we? Maybe he could have Neji scan for any movement from Animal, have Kiba and Akamaru attack Animal from the front(oblivously Animal will summon something) just to see his form of attack, have Shino try and use secret technique insect globe on Animal-nothing for Animal to do, he has no summons that could stop the insects from hitting him; Bird will just dive bomb through them but nothing will really happen, panda the bugs will go around, ect ect ect. The only one that could do anything would be the crab and its foam, however the bugs could just avoid the foam seeing as they have somewhat good speed being able to catch Mandara/Tobi off guard and surrond him, and even if that happens Shikamaru could take that oppurtunity to use shadow possesion on Animal........Thats the best I could come up with for right now......

The summons can't jump because of their wieght, except for the dogs and bird who can somewhat fly. Yeah actually I do have a counter for the bird-When a bird fly's it casts a shadow don't it? Meaning Shikamaru would be able to stop them in mid air........

Have you seen the size of those summons? And who said I was 5? Okay, I'm gonna counter in a minute, I need to find those chapters I used before... And V-V remembers, I think I used them against her in an UNS match or something. Seriously.

[Vivi]

Have you seen the size of those summons? And who said I was 5? Okay, I'm gonna counter in a minute, I need to find those chapters I used before... And V-V remembers, I think I used them against her in an UNS match or something. Seriously.

I remember well.
Dog Summons is at least the Size of the Konoha Morgue where old Animal Path was being held.
Tsume,Ino,Shizune and that Decoding Girl and some others were there as well.

Doesn't matter though.Dog Summon can't be destroyed unless Animal is killed him/herself.
Dog summon get hit it can split.Once it comes back together it grows another head. It keeps going like that.Nothing in Naruto can kill Dog summon unless killing Animal.

By the way Animal has shown to be able to summon Konan.

[Phoenix Wright]

Giant Crustacean. Chapter 374 Page 2. It launches a wave of bubbles to wash heavy oil off of Konan. As you can see its at least 30 times bigger than Animal Pain. A small boss summon, if you will.

The Chameleon is useless, right? It's still useful in some sort of way, being a summon. Chapter 374 Page 16, thank you. Again, this chameleon easily fits Animal inside its mouth, and is probably at least over 15 of Animal Pain. Another fairly small summon.

Next Page, we bring in the big house. Gamaken. We will proceed.

Chapter 375 Page 3. Gamaken can easily be seen as a bunch of Jiraiya's, too many to count, possibly over 50 at the least. This is a small scale measurement, as we'll be using Dogs compared to him not too far away. Jiraiya is near 2 meters, I shouldn't have to show scans for that, though.

Chapter 375. Page 7. Gamaken has hold of a medium sized building. He's touching ground. Next Page. The Dog is on a much bigger building and is standing on a pipe, reaching nearly the top. Compare Jiraiya's size to Gamaken, then compare Gamaken to the Dog. Jiraiya is 2 meters, making the building much, more, and the dog, at least 100 meters.

Go to the page after. The Dogs have split. If you can get a fair measurement from there, they are bigger. I can go on. Gamaken is nearly 100 meters big himself, if not. Go to the next page, and here comes the bird. It's at least 3 times the size of Gamabunta. Not 100 meters? You wish. The bird shakes on impact, and takes a boss summon to block, and with that, Gamaken can barely do it. What if it were to attack Neji or any of his opponents?

Gamaken falls to the ground because of it.

Must I go on any further?

[Phoenix Wright]

I remember well.
Dog Summons is at least the Size of the Konoha Morgue where old Animal Path was being held.
Tsume,Ino,Shizune and that Decoding Girl and some others were there as well.

Doesn't matter though.Dog Summon can't be destroyed unless Animal is killed him/herself.
Dog summon get hit it can split.Once it comes back together it grows another head. It keeps going like that.Nothing in Naruto can kill Dog summon unless killing Animal.

By the way Animal has shown to be able to summon Konan.

And he can summon other Pain Bodies but let's not get into that.

[Vivi]

And he can summon other Pain Bodies but let's not get into that.

You only said Animal vs the 4.:eek:
No Restrictions put.:eek:

[Phoenix Wright]

You only said Animal vs the 4.:eek:
No Restrictions put.:eek:

Well, let's get into that then :cool:

[Lady Tsunade]

Animal Path wins, none of them have the durability to fight his Summons,Kiba and Neji would give a good fight because of their prowess in taijutsu ,but Shiki and Shino would be killed fairly quickly.

[Lady Tsunade]

Not a polite person ah? Ok fine, I play by ur little game......

Gee thanks Dr.Phil, but lets just leave it at I have manners and u don't. Sorry if that came out as an insult towards u, but then again I guess u don't mind seeing as the forum is real life to u and life is unfair.....

Yeah the main reason I didn't want to give u the pleasure of being right is really because for 1.I still believe team chunin have a chance of winning, 2.At first I was just trying to do an impression of the way u were acting. Hundreds of meters big? Well now I didn't know I was debating with a 5 year old. When u give the width of the summon, try to be more accurate..........

Anyone can tell they're big, the problem is the dogs when multiplied are still a bit smaller they arn't "hundreds and hundreds of meters long" an air palm isn't just going to phase past them-the rhino and ram, and others like it maybe. But the dog is still smaller and doesn't way as much as them so please stop comparing there traits to it. The problem with u is that u think team chunin is just going to stand there and get flattened, what u don't realize is that they can move just like Animal can summon........

Well lets think of a plan for Shikamaru, shall we? Maybe he could have Neji scan for any movement from Animal, have Kiba and Akamaru attack Animal from the front(oblivously Animal will summon something) just to see his form of attack, have Shino try and use secret technique insect globe on Animal-nothing for Animal to do, he has no summons that could stop the insects from hitting him; Bird will just dive bomb through them but nothing will really happen, panda the bugs will go around, ect ect ect. The only one that could do anything would be the crab and its foam, however the bugs could just avoid the foam seeing as they have somewhat good speed being able to catch Mandara/Tobi off guard and surrond him, and even if that happens Shikamaru could take that oppurtunity to use shadow possesion on Animal........Thats the best I could come up with for right now......

The summons can't jump because of their wieght, except for the dogs and bird who can somewhat fly. Yeah actually I do have a counter for the bird-When a bird fly's it casts a shadow don't it? Meaning Shikamaru would be able to stop them in mid air........
:S Cool it guys, lets not get too worked up,remember this is only a debate.

[Phoenix Wright]

It's funny how she quoted Skylar's post when she said that.

[Lady Tsunade]

It's funny how she quoted Skylar's post when she said that.
Lol Well it just so happened to be the one I found first! Same goes for you !

[Phoenix Wright]

Nice, you just ruined my perfectly epic post. xD