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zebrakiller
11-11-2009, 08:27 PM
No restrictions. picks?

Hally
11-11-2009, 08:36 PM
Well avatar roku would win because he can constrol all the elements and go into the avatar state. Jariaya is strong and has awesome justsu but I think he wouldd loose against an avatar. He would be able to summon his toads and use rasangan and stuff but Roku can go into that poweful avatar state which could destroy jarayas summoning

Jose
11-11-2009, 08:42 PM
Avatar Roku even if Jiraiya trys to turn into Sage Mode he needs time, time that Roku will not give him.

Sasori12
11-11-2009, 09:04 PM
This is a very interesting fight. I'm not sure. This is a very rare occurrence.

Yellow Flash
11-11-2009, 10:38 PM
This is a very interesting fight. I'm not sure. This is a very rare occurrence.
I agree, although Jiraiya could speedblitz and use boss summon for prep time for SM. Once he got into SM Jiraiya would be doing some major speedblitzing. I think the outcome would end up with Jiraiya's speed outmatching Roku's.

The Demon Zabuza
11-12-2009, 07:03 AM
Roku has shown no speed feats whatsoever. His only action was when he beat the firebenders at the temple. Jiraiya can speedblitz this before he has a chance to enter Avatar State, and even there I doubt he can beat Gamabunta or Jiraiya in Sage Mode without the Comet.

zebrakiller
11-12-2009, 08:02 AM
Roku has shown no speed feats whatsoever. His only action was when he beat the firebenders at the temple. Jiraiya can speedblitz this before he has a chance to enter Avatar State, and even there I doubt he can beat Gamabunta or Jiraiya in Sage Mode without the Comet.
u serious? he wouldnt even need to rely on firebending...u did see what he did to sozins throne room...gone in 60 seconds. jiraiya comes speedblitzing, roku throws a tornado. done

The Demon Zabuza
11-12-2009, 08:04 AM
u serious? he wouldnt even need to rely on firebending...u did see what he did to sozins throne room...gone in 60 seconds. jiraiya comes speedblitzing, roku throws a tornado. done

u serious?

Jiraiya is supersonic in base form. SM is hypersonic.

Roku wouldn't have time to move, unless they start at range.

Doomlord1234
11-12-2009, 08:04 AM
No no no....Jiraiya is the Winner. PERIOD. :D

zebrakiller
11-12-2009, 08:34 AM
u serious?

Jiraiya is supersonic in base form. SM is hypersonic.

Roku wouldn't have time to move, unless they start at range.
the man has masterful control over all the elements...supersonic speed wont let u dodge a lightning bolt...jiraiya goes charging in, point blank bolt.

Nābris
11-12-2009, 09:16 AM
supersonic speed wont let u dodge a lightning bolt...jiraiya goes charging in, point blank bolt.

There is a difference between speed and reaction time.

Roku is swift with his attacks, but he has shown no impressive reaction feats beyond that of a peak human's. Jiraiya has shown these reflexes, especially in his fight with Pain.

321zigzag1
11-12-2009, 09:31 AM
the man has masterful control over all the elements...supersonic speed wont let u dodge a lightning bolt...jiraiya goes charging in, point blank bolt.


NO

Bender created lightning is vastly inferior in speed compared to an actual lightning bolt.

Manwe Sulimo
11-12-2009, 10:11 AM
Roku has shown no speed feats whatsoever. His only action was when he beat the firebenders at the temple. Jiraiya can speedblitz this before he has a chance to enter Avatar State, and even there I doubt he can beat Gamabunta or Jiraiya in Sage Mode without the Comet.

Um, are you forgetting the whole episode "The Avatar and the Fire Lord"? With Roku leveling Sozin's throne room? Jumping up the side of a volcano in a couple seconds?

the man has masterful control over all the elements...supersonic speed wont let u dodge a lightning bolt...jiraiya goes charging in, point blank bolt.

We've never seen Roku use lightning, so we can't assume he can.

shikamarulover18
11-12-2009, 10:14 AM
i would definitely say avatar roku would win. i mean he controls all four elements and can go into avatar mode. plus he had that dragon. so even if jairaya summoned bunta, bunta would be occupied with fighting roku's dragon.

Sasori_X
11-12-2009, 10:45 AM
Well Aang was able to boost his speed considerably with air bending. Roku maybe able to do the same thing, but however like everyone else said Jiraiya has shown to have fast reaction time and speed.

But I also want to know, who is stronger, Sarutobi or Jiraiya? Because on this site, it says Roku beats Sarutobi : http://obd.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Roku

zebrakiller
11-12-2009, 11:00 AM
he can bend lava...roku throws up a lava shield how does jiraiya by pass that?

The Demon Zabuza
11-12-2009, 11:05 AM
Um, are you forgetting the whole episode "The Avatar and the Fire Lord"? With Roku leveling Sozin's throne room? Jumping up the side of a volcano in a couple seconds?



We've never seen Roku use lightning, so we can't assume he can.

All I remember of that episode was him coming out and owning some monks with fire. I haven't watched Avatar in a loooooong time.

So? Since Sozen Comet is off, Boss Summons would be a major sticking point for him. I reckon the three of them could easily delay him until Jiraiya goes SM. From there, Frog Song FTW.

zebrakiller
11-12-2009, 11:07 AM
All I remember of that episode was him coming out and owning some monks with fire. I haven't watched Avatar in a loooooong time.

So? Since Sozen Comet is off, Boss Summons would be a major sticking point for him. I reckon the three of them could easily delay him until Jiraiya goes SM. From there, Frog Song FTW.
rokus dragon is a factor, aerial bending attacks could handle toads easily. i dont think pervy sage can use his sm speed to any advantage anyway. roku can keep it a long range match and just out gun him with bending

Manwe Sulimo
11-12-2009, 11:16 AM
All I remember of that episode was him coming out and owning some monks with fire. I haven't watched Avatar in a loooooong time.

So? Since Sozen Comet is off, Boss Summons would be a major sticking point for him. I reckon the three of them could easily delay him until Jiraiya goes SM. From there, Frog Song FTW.

I think you're thinking of the episode "The Winter Solstice, Part 2: Avatar Roku", where Aang channeled Roku for a moment. "The Avatar and the Fire Lord" is the flashback episode recounting the relationship and conflicts between Roku and Fire Lord Sozin. These might jog your memory.

http://www.avatarspiritmedia.net/dvdscreens.php?ep=306&page=11

http://www.avatarspiritmedia.net/dvdscreens.php?ep=306&page=13

http://www.avatarspiritmedia.net/dvdscreens.php?ep=306&page=17

http://www.avatarspiritmedia.net/dvdscreens.php?ep=306&page=19

http://www.avatarspiritmedia.net/dvdscreens.php?ep=306&page=20

http://www.avatarspiritmedia.net/dvdscreens.php?ep=306&page=21

http://www.avatarspiritmedia.net/dvdscreens.php?ep=306&page=22

Yellow Flash
11-12-2009, 01:04 PM
despite Roku's four element control, he can't react to hypersonic speeds... Jiraiya's ninjutsu is definitely more powerful then his elements... SM and boss summons are other factors that give Jiraiya the upper-hand.

zebrakiller
11-12-2009, 05:41 PM
rokus destructive potential is huge...he could wreck the ground under jiraiyas feet and sink down towards the earths mantle...done