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nvm no restrictions, just say who wins
321zigzag1
11-09-2009, 07:47 PM
Speedblitz?
Kakashi as a elite jonin is faster than sound anyway. At least transonic I think and powerscaling wise.
So does Aang have full power of the avatar state or not.
If Aang does i think Aang wins, if not Kakashi does.
321zigzag1
11-09-2009, 07:48 PM
So does Aang have full power of the avatar state or not.
If Aang does i think Aang wins, if not Kakashi does.
He said right before Phoenix Lord.
Aang wasn't in the state. He wouldn't know how to anyway still by that time.
He said right before Phoenix Lord.
Aang wasn't in the state. He wouldn't know how to anyway still by that time.
nvm, i took restrictions off for a reason.
darkamaru
11-09-2009, 07:51 PM
aang...aang would so uberpwn kakashi.and if it was like when he was full avatar state then he would...TAKE KAKASHIS CHIDORI BENDING!!!!!!!!
kakashi:noez!!!!not my ability to bend chidoris!!!!!!npow they wont bend...theyll...BREAK. O-O
RSAHinataSpringbokF1
11-09-2009, 07:52 PM
Kakashi, who else?
Kakashi, who else?
how does kakashi beat aang?? lol
i just figured out aangs powers(dont ask me how i did sso fast) :p he pwns o.O
[Shikamaru]
11-09-2009, 07:57 PM
Aang rapes.
Air, water, earth or fire would kill Kakashi. Aang is better then it then Kakashi, he can control it, Kakashi can only do the same pattern of jutsu in a row. He has no originality, and they will all be the same. Not to mention Kakashi's Elemental Ninjutsu is no where as strong as Aangs bending abilities.
Aang is faster, stronger, and more beastly.
His many avatar-state abilities would be major overkill.
Aang has this with no sweat, literally, he won't even need to move.
321zigzag1
11-09-2009, 07:57 PM
how does kakashi beat aang?? lol
i just figured out aangs powers(dont ask me how i did sso fast) :p he pwns o.O
Aang is inferior to Kakashi in physical stat I believe.
akatsukirocks
11-09-2009, 07:58 PM
kakashi hands down
darkamaru
11-09-2009, 08:00 PM
;1690695']Aang rapes.
Air, water, earth or fire would kill Kakashi. Aang is better then it then Kakashi, he can control it, Kakashi can only do the same pattern of jutsu in a row. He has no originality, and they will all be the same. Not to mention Kakashi's Elemental Ninjutsu is no where as strong as Aangs bending abilities.
Aang is faster, stronger, and more beastly.
His many avatar-state abilities would be major overkill.
Aang has this with no sweat, literally, he won't even need to move.
as my friend jonathan would say,aang is clearly beastmo and as my friend dustin would say,kakashi is smarticleer than kakashi in every way.case ruled.
wow, i dont believe aang would lose to kakashi.
someone explain how kakashi wins if you believe it.
back up your stuff..
i cant because, well i dont wanna.
C. Hook
11-09-2009, 08:04 PM
So er... Why doesn't Kakashi just use MS and remove a small part of Aang's brain as soon as the battle starts? He did it to a speeding missile, after all.
[Shikamaru]
11-09-2009, 08:04 PM
Common sense.
Aang is a god in Avatar form. There is no defeating him. He has defense for everything.
His normal control of the elements completely overpowers Kakashi. With his Air style he can easily dodge him by flying above.
By the time Kakashi started his signs.. Aang would have launched 6 air bombs with 4 fireballs directly at Kakashi.. obliterating him.. without Avatar form.
Anything he launches at Aang will simply be blocked by earth bending.. and he would be killed quickly with the speed of Aang's Air and Fire bending.
321zigzag1
11-09-2009, 08:05 PM
wow, i dont believe aang would lose to kakashi.
someone explain how kakashi wins if you believe it.
back up your stuff..
i cant because, well i dont wanna.
Like C hook said MS.
Plus there is speedblitz.
darkamaru
11-09-2009, 08:06 PM
i can back aang up.
1.aang can use EVERY element.kakashi can only copy jutsu which means he wouldn't be able to beat aag because aang isn't a ninja.
2.kakashi isn't as powerful as aang.he was beaten by pain and aang is way stroonger than pain when hes in avatar state.
3.even if aang DID lose to kakashi,he has a LOT of other people to provide backup so even in DEATH he coud technically beat kakashi since zuko or someone who would help him could bust out more moves on kakshi.though this theory is irrelevant as aang wouldn't lose. :P
321zigzag1
11-09-2009, 08:06 PM
;1690767']Common sense.
Aang is a god in Avatar form. There is no defeating him. He has defense for everything.
His normal control of the elements completely overpowers Kakashi. With his Air style he can easily dodge him by flying above.
By the time Kakashi started his signs.. Aang would have launched 6 air bombs with 4 fireballs directly at Kakashi.. obliterating him.. without Avatar form.
Anything he launches at Aang will simply be blocked by earth bending.. and he would be killed quickly with the speed of Aang's Air and Fire bending.
Kakashi has superhuman speed with his handsigns too. Aang? no
Also this Aang is right before Phoenix Ozai, so no avatar state.
Aang also doesn't know go into one by that time either.
Like C hook said MS.
Plus there is speedblitz.
aang can just block kakashis attacks :|
speedblitz wont work..
besides aang is possibly Supersonic reaction speed
kakashi is only sonic, so how could he speedblitz him anyway?
Kamui takes alot of chakra, aang could probably get past Kamui before he got hit
and aang probably wouldnt fall into any genjutsu (if kakashi has any). and in avatar state, my friend, aang stomps.
321zigzag1
11-09-2009, 08:12 PM
aang can just block kakashis attacks :|
sppedblitz wont work..
besides aang is possibly Supersonic reaction speed
kakashi is only sonic, so how could he speedblitz him anyway?
Kamui takes alot of chakra, aang could probably get past Kamui before he got hit
and aang probably wouldnt fall into any genjutsu (if kakashi has any). and in avatar state, my friend, aang stomps.
I don't agree with that all. I mean Sasuke still managed to react to Killer bee's supersonic speed. This is Kakashi of part 2 now who should be faster than Haku's sonic speed anyhow.
Lol you keep saying avatar state when he is not in one. Plus he doesn't know how to enter into it before fighting with Ozai.
Also how is Aang going to deal with Genjutsu when he has no experience in dealing with illusions.
Aang having possible supersonic reaction speed is because of that conbustion man right?
I said before Kakashi raikiri plus he uses clone misdirection alot.
Aang doesn't know how to react to those well.
321zigzag1
11-09-2009, 08:14 PM
no aang is not weaker than kakashi, he isnt much faster either :|
buddy, i forgot what pain he fought, but that one wasnt very good, not to mention kakashi had help.. and kakashi was killed also.
kakashi is probably large building destruction. in avatar state, aang is Multi-City Block.
and if he uses chidori, aang can just redirect that.
Kakashi shows casual faster than eye movements. Aang hasn't shown squat.
Aang who is only like peak human or lower in strength is going to block Kakashi's superhuman strength attack?
Also no avatar state you described Aang right before meeting Ozai therefore he doesn't know how to then.
I don't agree with that all.
Lol you keep saying avatar state when he is not in one. Plus he doesn't know how to enter into it before fighting with Ozai.
Also how is Aang going to deal with Genjutsu when he has no experience in dealing with illusions.
Aang having possible supersonic reaction speed is because of that conbustion man right?
I said before Kakashi raikiri plus he uses clone misdirection alot.
Aang doesn't know how to react to those well.
i said no restrictions, which means basically after the end of avatar, he knows how to use avatar state by then.
explain to me how kakashi will damage aang with wind shields, earth shields, and fire and water at his command?
Kakashi shows casual faster than eye movements. Aang hasn't shown squat.
Aang who is only like peak human or lower in strength is going to block Kakashi's superhuman strength attack?
Also no avatar state you described Aang right before meeting Ozai therefore he doesn't know how to then.
if you can read, :roll: i took that off.
darkamaru
11-09-2009, 08:16 PM
just thought of something.what if,later on if they had continued the series,aang had gotten much much much stronger?like he culd use LIGHTNING bending.then he could reverse chidori back in through kakashi and electrocute him to death.quite probable actually...
just thought of something.what if,later on if they had continued the series,aang had gotten much much much stronger?like he culd use LIGHTNING bending.then he could reverse chidori back in through kakashi and electrocute him to death.quite probable actually...
lol.. i would like that :lol:
321zigzag1
11-09-2009, 08:17 PM
i said no restrictions, which means basically after the end of avatar, he knows how to use avatar state by then.
explain to me how kakashi will damage aang with wind shields, earth shields, and fire and water at his command?
ok my bad I misunderstood. Apologies.
Then things are different. So Aang is going to enter the state automatically?
The only thing Kakashi can do to Avatar State Aang is Kamui.
321zigzag1
11-09-2009, 08:19 PM
just thought of something.what if,later on if they had continued the series,aang had gotten much much much stronger?like he culd use LIGHTNING bending.then he could reverse chidori back in through kakashi and electrocute him to death.quite probable actually...
in order to do that he would have to meet the thrust of the raikiri and absorb much of the electricity through his fingers which is hard. Raikiri is a hand thrust. If Aang messes up he looses his hand.
darkamaru
11-09-2009, 08:21 PM
no i meant he could just bend the chidori while kakashi was using it.like without touching it...
321zigzag1
11-09-2009, 08:22 PM
no i meant he could just bend the chidori while kakashi was using it.like without touching it...
oh that? hmmm that is possible then, too bad the series ended.
Personally lightning should have also been a bending art as well I think.
darkamaru
11-09-2009, 08:24 PM
i can bend spoons...and a bunch of other stuff...im also a firehydrantbender...i bend fire...hydrants.xD
321zigzag1
11-09-2009, 08:25 PM
oh, and kakashi didnt fight god pain, kakashi would have been destroyed quick!
asura path kills kakashi
not deva path, deva path might of helped asura path, but he really didnt kill kakashi asura path is much weaker.
now back to the point.. aang wins.
My thread was on your Avatar Aang being stronger than Pain.
Since this is Avatar state Aang he is more likely to win unless Kakashi can perform kamui on Aang with possible clone feints and stuff. Kakashi is more likely to lose.
ok my bad I misunderstood. Apologies.
Then things are different. So Aang is going to enter the state automatically?
The only thing Kakashi can do to Avatar State Aang is Kamui.
and he cant do kamui that many times. he might have gotten more accurate with it but if he misses too many times, he loses to much chakra to fight, aang wins easily
My thread was on your Avatar Aang being stronger than Pain.
Since this is Avatar state Aang he is more likely to win unless Kakashi can perform kamui on Aang with possible clone feints and stuff. Kakashi is more likely to lose.
i dont remember saying aang was stronger than pain though..
321zigzag1
11-09-2009, 08:28 PM
and he cant do kamui that many times. he might have gotten more accurate with it but if he misses too many times, he loses to much chakra to fight, aang wins easily
He is very accurate with it now. He took out a speeding missile a small too. Shows great improvement.
321zigzag1
11-09-2009, 08:29 PM
i dont remember saying aang was stronger than pain though..
my bad it was to darkamaru
He is very accurate with it now. He took out a speeding missile a small too. Shows great improvement.
yea, but dont you think aang would spam Fireball Barrages (while flying), and kakashi tries to use kamui on them, if he doesnt and tries to use kamui on aang, the fireballs would hit him. if he tries it on the fireballs, he would most likely tire himself out, then, able to be killed easily.
321zigzag1
11-09-2009, 08:36 PM
yea, but dont you think aang would spam Fireball Barrages (while flying), and kakashi tries to use kamui on them, if he doesnt and tries to use kamui on aang, the fireballs would hit him. if he tries it on the fireballs, he would most likely tire himself out, then, able to be killed easily.
Which is I said clone feint.
Aang will spam fireballs and use rock rail gun on Kakashi too.
The thing is since Aang doesn't travel as fast as missile or does he?
Kakashi in theory can catch him. Anyway I already agreed Kakashi is more on the loss here. However Kakashi can still win this.
I change my opinion after i saw the whole avatar .. I realized that Kakashi can take in Aang since Aang is human with human durability excluding in Avatar State ..
And With Kakashi's Durability higher from Aang .. And Kakashi has variants of element jutsus covered and yet uncovered ( I don't think he had 298 A-Class missions and 42 S-Class missions and only copied 20 jutsus I think He copied 200 jutsus more but yet still uncovered .. )
And Kakashi is Super Sonic and FECT i think Aang can't See him to target him by any attack and kakashi with his sharingan can easliy take down Aang even if he was flying .. He just can go shuriken and Kunai .. And As obvious Kakashi is smarter then Aang and Can easy make a Strategy to kill him
Manwe Sulimo
11-10-2009, 05:11 AM
Aang wins, hands down. He flies up in the Avatar State and spams rock bullets until Kakashi's dead.
So er... Why doesn't Kakashi just use MS and remove a small part of Aang's brain as soon as the battle starts? He did it to a speeding missile, after all.
How about he's never done something like that? Transporting a speeding missile isn't anything like transporting a small part of the body precisely.
Kakashi shows casual faster than eye movements. Aang hasn't shown squat.
Actually, base Aang has shown superhuman speed through airbending.
C. Hook
11-10-2009, 05:17 AM
Aang wins, hands down. He flies up in the Avatar State and spams rock bullets until Kakashi's dead.
The problem is, why doesn't Kakashi just do the logical thing and MS his head off?
How about he's never done something like that? Transporting a speeding missile isn't anything like transporting a small part of the body precisely.
So then he transports a LARGE part of Aang's head. Transporting a speeding missile is VERY precise.
Actually, base Aang has shown superhuman speed through airbending.
Has he shown anywhere near Narutoverse level? I demand calcs.
Manwe Sulimo
11-10-2009, 05:30 AM
When has Kakashi ever started a fight iwith MS?... Aang is going to be flying up high, perhaps out of MS's accurate range.
I don't have calcs, but Aang does have feats of virtually running faster than the eye (and not in a trope-like manner) and running on water (before learning waterbending).
C. Hook
11-10-2009, 05:32 AM
When has Kakashi ever started a fight iwith MS?... Aang is going to be flying up high, perhaps out of MS's accurate range.
Didn't Kakashi tag Deidara with it?
Ah well. You're right in saying he doesn't start a fight with MS, but I typically assume CIS isn't on.
I don't have calcs, but Aang does have feats of virtually running faster than the eye (and not in a trope-like manner) and running on water (before learning waterbending).
Running on water doesn't require that much speed. Moving faster than the eye IS a trope whenever it appears.
JCTKNE4E
11-10-2009, 05:34 AM
Um... when he first fought Deidara. First move against him was MS in pursuit. If going all out, as is always assumed in these, then Kakashi probably would MS his head off, problem being he has to keep locked on. Aang is a very agile, limber target, who is fast and never stays still. His physical fighting is outstanding, and may match kakashi's taijutsu, save for the sharingan. But Aang has four elements at his disposal, and devastating attacks with each. He can fly, and avatar state makes him untouchable by kakashi.
So unless kakashi gets lucky with MS, then Aang wins.
321zigzag1
11-10-2009, 12:20 PM
Actually, base Aang has shown superhuman speed through airbending.
I think you are talking about season 1 when Aang ran around in circles with airbending. Aang normally doesn't use it but hey.
Still not as faster than eye can see. Granted that is superhuman speed.
Didn't Kakashi tag Deidara with it?
Ah well. You're right in saying he doesn't start a fight with MS, but I typically assume CIS isn't on.
Running on water doesn't require that much speed. Moving faster than the eye IS a trope whenever it appears.
He did tag Deidara with it.
Anyway Aang has still the advantage once in Avatar state.
I change my opinion after i saw the whole avatar .. I realized that Kakashi can take in Aang since Aang is human with human durability excluding in Avatar State ..
And With Kakashi's Durability higher from Aang .. And Kakashi has variants of element jutsus covered and yet uncovered ( I don't think he had 298 A-Class missions and 42 S-Class missions and only copied 20 jutsus I think He copied 200 jutsus more but yet still uncovered .. )
And Kakashi is Super Sonic and FECT i think Aang can't See him to target him by any attack and kakashi with his sharingan can easliy take down Aang even if he was flying .. He just can go shuriken and Kunai .. And As obvious Kakashi is smarter then Aang and Can easy make a Strategy to kill him
where do you see kakashi is supersonic?
tell me, what battle was kakashi supersonic?
321zigzag1
11-10-2009, 01:07 PM
where do you see kakashi is supersonic?
tell me, what battle was kakashi supersonic?
powerscaling wise and comparison to other characters.
Naruto high tier should be at least higher than sonic at least most of them.
Unless narutoverse only supersonic speedsters are pain, killerbee and sage folk. And the rest are just sonic? kind of big gap there.
OBD listed him supersonic in as probable well thats what I am used to.
if kishi was here, he would win every debating battle (since he made the characters and all, he know their weaknesses, strenghts) o.O dont you think? buts thats off topic.
where do you see kakashi is supersonic?
tell me, what battle was kakashi supersonic?
DataBooks !!! L|o|L ..
Manwe Sulimo
11-10-2009, 03:15 PM
Yeah, databooks. Haku is lightspeed, and my uncle is President Obama.
Yeah, databooks. Haku is lightspeed, and my uncle is President Obama.
nice sarcasm...
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