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SPAM [bot]
10-18-2009, 04:41 PM
No limits, they're both at full power.

Kai Kurosaki
10-18-2009, 04:52 PM
Raikage would kill Sasori badly

The 1st Hokage
10-18-2009, 05:46 PM
raikage wins by speedblitz alone.raikage is supersonic and has brute strength so raikage owns this

C4 Karura
10-18-2009, 05:48 PM
Raikage, for reasons stated above.

sasu_girl
10-18-2009, 05:59 PM
raikage. srry sasori

Omega
10-19-2009, 01:25 AM
Wow you took Sasori's Poison that is a dick move really limiting a character against an already Super strong opponent. I still say Sasori would win because Raikage's is fast but the Iron sand is just as fast. As well his Water cannon and Water Cutter could still effect Lightning Armor. Iron Sand world order would be hard for even the Raikage to dodge. There is also the Performance of a hundred puppets as well as his flame throwers which could melt steel with ease.

SPAM [bot]
10-19-2009, 03:04 AM
Wow you took Sasori's Poison that is a dick move really limiting a character against an already Super strong opponent. I still say Sasori would win because Raikage's is fast but the Iron sand is just as fast. As well his Water cannon and Water Cutter could still effect Lightning Armor. Iron Sand world order would be hard for even the Raikage to dodge. There is also the Performance of a hundred puppets as well as his flame throwers which could melt steel with ease.

Well, I've been thinking about this battle and Sasori wins many battles on account to his poison, so I decided to take it away, to even it out a bit.

Kuromaki
10-19-2009, 05:59 AM
Raikage stomps this one. You basically took away the only thing Sasori has that lets him even have a chance against him.

Nyruss
10-19-2009, 08:49 AM
The Raikage would win regardless of any poison.

painxkonan
10-19-2009, 09:24 AM
Raikage.... would win, poor Sasori

deidara330
10-19-2009, 01:33 PM
Raikage and Sasori are perfectly matched in speed. Supersonic iron sand, supersonic Raikage. Sasori has no genjutsu to speak of, so having a genjutsu defense in this fight is pointless. In Taijutsu, the Raikage beats Sasori. He can crush any of the puppets in one hit. For iron sand, world order would be tough to dodge. But if Raikage can defeat the Third Kazekage before then (and I have no doubt he can) then World Order is useless. Poison is the deciding factor in this fight. Even if the weapons Sasori has can't scratch him, the poison will still touch him. And once it does, Raikage can only hope for a tie. He could defeat some puppets without getting poisoned, but defeating 100 puppets at once (including the Third Kazekage) would mean that he would get poison on him somehow, in some way. Sakura even only survived because of an antidote. As long as the Raikage manages to cush Sasori's heart before he gets poisoned, then he wins. However, I don't think he can.

J-Sun Tasogare
10-19-2009, 02:26 PM
Wow you took Sasori's Poison that is a dick move really limiting a character against an already Super strong opponent. I still say Sasori would win because Raikage's is fast but the Iron sand is just as fast. As well his Water cannon and Water Cutter could still effect Lightning Armor. Iron Sand world order would be hard for even the Raikage to dodge. There is also the Performance of a hundred puppets as well as his flame throwers which could melt steel with ease.
iron sand isnt as fast as raikage he wouldnt have time to get kazekage puppet out plus if sakura can punch the crap outta the way then raikage could probably destroy it he could speedblitz the puppets easily knocking them out lighting armor would stop the water and puppets there is know way sasori can win and dont call someone a dick for taking away poison raikage could still beat him with poison a lil poison wont stop him raikage might not even get hit

Omega
10-19-2009, 04:59 PM
iron sand isnt as fast as raikage he wouldnt have time to get kazekage puppet out plus if sakura can punch the crap outta the way then raikage could probably destroy it he could speedblitz the puppets easily knocking them out lighting armor would stop the water and puppets there is know way sasori can win and dont call someone a dick for taking away poison raikage could still beat him with poison a lil poison wont stop him raikage might not even get hit

How would the poison not effect him that is just a stupid comment there. Poison would effect him and paralyze him like anyone else just because he is stronger physically doesn't mean his organs are as well. Two the Iron Sand is Super Sonic and all Sakura managed to do was knock it away. Besides The Raikage's speed is 5 for 5 while Sasori's 4.5 for 5 so Raikage isn't that much faster than Sasori. So Speed blits wouldn't work as well as everyone is saying. Besides Raikage didn't seem all that smart anyways so Sasori could easily trick him.

Miles Edgeworth
10-19-2009, 06:38 PM
Raikge stomps due to Sasori's best weapon being taken away.

[Shikamaru]
10-19-2009, 06:54 PM
Poison isn't a matter of a question, none of the blades or poisoned weaponry would pierce the armor of the Raikage. Let alone be fast enough to even tag him.

Raikage devours him for late morning brunch.

Omega
10-19-2009, 07:07 PM
;1470716']Poison isn't a matter of a question, none of the blades or poisoned weaponry would pierce the armor of the Raikage. Let alone be fast enough to even tag him.

Raikage devours him for late morning brunch.


You forget that he has poison gas as well but without his poison he losses but I still think it is a dick move.

[Shikamaru]
10-19-2009, 07:10 PM
You forget that he has poison gas as well but without his poison he losses but I still think it is a dick move.
Raikage moves faster then gas particles, all he has to do is soar through it holding his breath. It wouldn't even release in the time that Raikage would destroy Sasori head on.

Omega
10-19-2009, 07:41 PM
;1470861']Raikage moves faster then gas particles, all he has to do is soar through it holding his breath. It wouldn't even release in the time that Raikage would destroy Sasori head on.

Okay I am not even going to bother after this but he is not as smart as you think I mean he didn't even know his own brother was alive. He would probably think it was a Smoke Screen and that Sasori was trying to distract him. Like I said before With Poison Sasori wins, Without Poison Sasori loses.

The 1st Hokage
10-19-2009, 07:44 PM
Okay I am not even going to bother after this but he is not as smart as you think I mean he didn't even know his own brother was alive. He would probably think it was a Smoke Screen and that Sasori was trying to distract him. Like I said before With Poison Sasori wins, Without Poison Sasori loses.
well thats a matter of opinion since raikage=supersonic meaning he wont be in the poison long enough to even breath it

SPAM [bot]
10-19-2009, 07:45 PM
This is hard, either Sasori gets poison and wins or Sasori doesn't have poison and loses... Fine, I'll re-do the restrictions.

[Shikamaru]
10-19-2009, 07:47 PM
Okay I am not even going to bother after this but he is not as smart as you think I mean he didn't even know his own brother was alive. He would probably think it was a Smoke Screen and that Sasori was trying to distract him. Like I said before With Poison Sasori wins, Without Poison Sasori loses.
I disagree to a large extent, Raikage would destroy Sasori in any case.
Poison or not, Sasori cannot defeat Raikage, even with a simple speed Blitz and Power punch, Sasori would lose.
He is way too fast.

Kuromaki
10-19-2009, 07:58 PM
;1460466']The only limit is that Raikage doesn't have his armor thingy (I don't remember what it was called).
Okay, now Sasori pretty much stomps here, the Lightning Armor is Raikage's main jutsu, without it he just has good strength but that's it.

SPAM [bot]
10-19-2009, 08:00 PM
Okay, now Sasori pretty much stomps here, the Lightning Armor is Raikage's main jutsu, without it he just has good strength but that's it.

But he's still got his speed... Know what? Fine, no limitations on anything, they can go nuts on eachother.

Omega
10-19-2009, 08:05 PM
Why don't you people listen Sasori is not much slower than the Raikage if you look at the stats there should only be a .5 difference. To Sasori's Body when hit physically falls apart and can be reformed. So far we have seen nothing but Taijutsu from Raikage so it can be assumed he has no real skill in offensive Ninjutsu or Genjutsu. He doesn't know about Sasori's Heart and doesn't use any sharp weapons. Like I said with poison Sasori wins because he is much smarter than the Raikage and would most likely set up a trap with his poison gas. With out it he has a slim chance and could just bid his time until the Raikage runs out of chackra.

Kuromaki
10-19-2009, 08:09 PM
;1471438']But he's still got his speed... Know what? Fine, no limitations on anything, they can go nuts on eachother.
Lightning Armor is the thing that contributes to Raikage's speed greatly.

With no restrictions, it depends, if Sasori can hit him with a large enough block of Iron Sand that can cut through, or if Sasori poisons him in any way, he wins. However the chances of that aren't very big because of Raikage's immense strength and speed while in Lightning Armor so I'm leaning more towards him on that one.

Omega
10-19-2009, 08:26 PM
Lightning Armor is the thing that contributes to Raikage's speed greatly.

With no restrictions, it depends, if Sasori can hit him with a large enough block of Iron Sand that can cut through, or if Sasori poisons him in any way, he wins. However the chances of that aren't very big because of Raikage's immense strength and speed while in Lightning Armor so I'm leaning more towards him on that one.

About his armor I never noticed but is there an aura of electricity on his body if so what would happen if he got hit with water?

Kuromaki
10-19-2009, 08:40 PM
About his armor I never noticed but is there an aura of electricity on his body if so what would happen if he got hit with water?
Maybe he would get fried?

Omega
10-19-2009, 08:43 PM
That is what I have been thinking because Water and Electricity don't mix. It would cause the Raikage to get shocked and probably even weaken or dispel his armor. If this is the case then Sasori can easily beat the Raikage using any of his abilities. This is a posibility given the fact that Sasuke used electric chackra to dispel Deidara's earth chackra which kept his bombs from detonating.

Miles Edgeworth
10-19-2009, 09:51 PM
If there's no restrictions, I'd say Sasori might win with difficulty. Key word, MIGHT. I'm still not so sure, Kisame sided with Raikage, I sided with Sasori, but we both have bias on our sides......

Kisame claims that Raiton armor can't be pierced by Iron Sand, but there's still the matter of Poison Gas, Raikage's lack of knowledge on Sasori, etc. Plus Iron Sand's still on his speed level, and if normal sand could block his attacks, Iron Sand should be able to as well.

Lady Tsunade
10-20-2009, 02:48 PM
hmmmmmmm I vote Raikage

deidara330
10-20-2009, 03:50 PM
If there's no restrictions, I'd say Sasori might win with difficulty. Key word, MIGHT. I'm still not so sure, Kisame sided with Raikage, I sided with Sasori, but we both have bias on our sides......

Kisame claims that Raiton armor can't be pierced by Iron Sand, but there's still the matter of Poison Gas, Raikage's lack of knowledge on Sasori, etc. Plus Iron Sand's still on his speed level, and if normal sand could block his attacks, Iron Sand should be able to as well.
Raiton armor could certainly be pierced with Iron Sand. An ordinary Chidori pierced it just fine. Raikage may have no knowledge of the gas, but he can run outside it's range before he breathes it in. Iron Sand could block his attacks, but it's soaked in poison. Sakura, when she hit it, had gloves on, and so the poison didn't touch her hand. I'm fairly certain that, if Raikage hits the sand bare-fisted, the poison will get on his hand and it'll kill him.

narutoultra
10-20-2009, 03:52 PM
Raiton armor could certainly be pierced with Iron Sand. An ordinary Chidori pierced it just fine. Raikage may have no knowledge of the gas, but he can run outside it's range before he breathes it in. Iron Sand could block his attacks, but it's soaked in poison. Sakura, when she hit it, had gloves on, and so the poison didn't touch her hand. I'm fairly certain that, if Raikage hits the sand bare-fisted, the poison will get on his hand and it'll kill him.

That's probably the only reason Sakura was given gloves :lol:

Miles Edgeworth
10-20-2009, 03:53 PM
Raiton armor could certainly be pierced with Iron Sand. An ordinary Chidori pierced it just fine. Raikage may have no knowledge of the gas, but he can run outside it's range before he breathes it in. Iron Sand could block his attacks, but it's soaked in poison. Sakura, when she hit it, had gloves on, and so the poison didn't touch her hand. I'm fairly certain that, if Raikage hits the sand bare-fisted, the poison will get on his hand and it'll kill him.

Hm, good point there.

Kisame said that Kusanagi didn't affect Raikage though, but idk, I kinda forget what happened exactly and I'm not sure how powerful Sasuke's Kusanagi is.

deidara330
10-20-2009, 03:55 PM
Hm, good point there.

Kisame said that Kusanagi didn't affect Raikage though, but idk, I kinda forget what happened exactly and I'm not sure how powerful Sasuke's Kusanagi is.
I don't think Sasuke ever managed to have his blade connect with Raikage, but I'm not sure. I don't think Raikage ever truly tanked a slash from Kusanagi during the battle, only because I'm not sure Sasuke ever successfully hit him. I need to re-read that fight.

Miles Edgeworth
10-20-2009, 04:14 PM
I don't think Sasuke ever managed to have his blade connect with Raikage, but I'm not sure. I don't think Raikage ever truly tanked a slash from Kusanagi during the battle, only because I'm not sure Sasuke ever successfully hit him. I need to re-read that fight.

Yeah I need to read it again too, I'm not so keen on Raikage's feats because the only thing I payed any attention to was Sasuke getting pwned xD

Omega
10-20-2009, 06:38 PM
I still think that Sasori wins I mean Raikage is a muscle bound moron he would never guess what keeps Sasori alive.

deidara330
10-20-2009, 06:48 PM
I still think that Sasori wins I mean Raikage is a muscle bound moron he would never guess what keeps Sasori alive.
Moron? Heck no! He may not seem like it, but he can certainly figure out within one heart transfer that the heart is what keeps Sasori alive. And of course, he could keep up with Sasori's heart transfer.

SPAM [bot]
10-20-2009, 06:51 PM
I still think that Sasori wins I mean Raikage is a muscle bound moron he would never guess what keeps Sasori alive.

He is not a moron, he just gets really angry.

Omega
10-20-2009, 07:22 PM
Well if he gets angry quick then what would keep Sasori from Exploiting that weakness.

Kisame
10-21-2009, 08:24 PM
Raiton armor could certainly be pierced with Iron Sand. An ordinary Chidori pierced it just fine. Raikage may have no knowledge of the gas, but he can run outside it's range before he breathes it in. Iron Sand could block his attacks, but it's soaked in poison. Sakura, when she hit it, had gloves on, and so the poison didn't touch her hand. I'm fairly certain that, if Raikage hits the sand bare-fisted, the poison will get on his hand and it'll kill him.


It barely scratched him and Chidori is a casual steel cutter, Iron Sand is made out of Iron which is weaker by some and has displayed no steel cutting feats, so Iron Sand couldn't really cut him. Iirc also the blade connected well enough and just bounced off Raikage's skin, so with Raiton Shroud other than poison gas Sasori has no real way of hurting him, possibly if he hits the blocks, but the prep time it takes to actually make a large amount of Iron Sand would mean a dead Sasori.

In close and medium range Raikage takes this with little to possibly medium difficult due to actual speed feats and plus with his synapses he can react to any attack Sasori may use right off the bat. If he hits the real body he can probably smash it to bits so he can't reconnect as well. Although in Long Range Raikage probably takes it with Medium to Extreme difficulty.