Akatsuki vs. Fantastic Four

[RSAHinataSpringbokF1]

The title needs no introduction. Who wins? The Akatsuki or Mr. Fantastic, the Invisible Woman, the Human Torch, and the Thing from Fantastic Four?

[minoto]

Akatsuki no question what so ever akatsuki rule go itachi

[[Shikamaru]]

Akatsuki.. by far.

[Taker369]

Fantastic 4 would stop period.

[Konan9]

Akatsuki -_-" No contest....

[Uchiha master]

To easy...Akatsuki

[Vivi]

Fantastic Four.

Human Torch could take them down himself.
He's hypersonic noone in Akatsuki has shown to be just as fast highest what they possibly are supersonic.
He's a life wiper meaning he can destroy all life on earth if he wants to by igniting the atmosphere.

[Shkin]

human torch can be a super nova!...if the akatsuki can take care of that...akatsuki will win.

[Nick Tasogare]

Invisible Woman can create force fields within things, and cause them to explode, she can deflect their weapons and jutsu, and blast them with her force blasts, as well as keeping the Fantastic Four invisible. Mr. Fantastic can wrap them up while The Thing beats on them through him, and the Torch flies incredibly fast, can shoot fire from his hands, as well as go Super Nova,

[sakura_blossom]

akatski xD

[Nick Tasogare]

Akatsuki no question what so ever akatsuki rule go itachi

;1077464']Akatsuki.. by far.

Fantastic 4 would stop period.

Akatsuki -_-" No contest....

To easy...Akatsuki

Fantastic Four.

Human Torch could take them down himself.
He's hypersonic noone in Akatsuki has shown to be just as fast highest what they possibly are supersonic.
He's a life wiper meaning he can destroy all life on earth if he wants to by igniting the atmosphere.

human torch can be a super nova!...if the akatsuki can take care of that...akatsuki will win.

Invisible Woman can create force fields within things, and cause them to explode, she can deflect their weapons and jutsu, and blast them with her force blasts, as well as keeping the Fantastic Four invisible. Mr. Fantastic can wrap them up while The Thing beats on them through him, and the Torch flies incredibly fast, can shoot fire from his hands, as well as go Super Nova,

akatski xD

Ok kiddies, pay attention to this, ready? If you're going to say someone wins, at least give a reason, and how they would be able to win.

Oh gee golly! Look at that! Most of the people who said Fantastic Four put up arguments, but there were no arguments for Akatsuki...Shocker!

[XxninjagirlxX]

Akatski! :3

[Sock]

Wow I gotta post on this one akatsuki hands down look at the difference in abillities kisame beats the human torch itachi beats the invisible jessica alba and mr fantastic I never really saw that many combat uses for stretchiness the thing would be the last one standing on the fantasic fours side but hed be way outnumbered and eventually fail

[Nick Tasogare]

Wow I gotta post on this one akatsuki hands down look at the difference in abillities kisame beats the human torch itachi beats the invisible jessica alba and mr fantastic I never really saw that many combat uses for stretchiness the thing would be the last one standing on the fantasic fours side but hed be way outnumbered and eventually fail

Human Torch evaporates Water and makes Kisame into Fish Sticks

Itachi vs Invisible Woman, how does Itachi win, I can't debate that if you don't say how xD

Mr. Fantastic is a genius with tons of sciencey gadgets, plus, he wraps the bad guys up while The Thing beats on them, and he bounces xD :lol:

The Thing would most likely be able to stand up to anything Akastuki threw at him.

[Vivi]

Wow I gotta post on this one akatsuki hands down look at the difference in abillities kisame beats the human torch itachi beats the invisible jessica alba and mr fantastic I never really saw that many combat uses for stretchiness the thing would be the last one standing on the fantasic fours side but hed be way outnumbered and eventually fail

Huma Torch can fly miles in the air.Even higher than Deidara so Kisame won't reach him.
Genjutsu's wont work on Fan Four and they're 2 fast for Susano'o.
Mr. Fantastic can stretch himself up to 3 Miles and capable of regeneration.
Highly resistane to physical attacks.
Mr. Fantastic>Luffy factfully proven.And Luffy can solo Narutoverse.

[Shkin]

Invisible Woman can create force fields within things, and cause them to explode, she can deflect their weapons and jutsu, and blast them with her force blasts, as well as keeping the Fantastic Four invisible. Mr. Fantastic can wrap them up while The Thing beats on them through him, and the Torch flies incredibly fast, can shoot fire from his hands, as well as go Super Nova,
okay...since you insist...all of the Fantastic four can be easily put under a gen...Madara can take care of them all actually...
see invisible woman is easily weakened when she uses the force field...Mr. fantastic will melt under amateratsu...the Thing is an easy prey to Deidei's bombs! i say with human torch going super nova the akatsuki might have a problem but then again the akatsuki can have the mizukage as bait then they'll have human torch...xD

[Sock]

ok f4 is a super hero team the strategy they use is fire off all of your abilities and hope for the best the akatsuki are ninjas they come up within insane strategy and they have no mercy

ok you got me on the torch i still say mr fantastics the first one out and the sharingan for itatchi v.s. the invisible woman

even with the thing and the torch sheer numbers would prevail

[Nick Tasogare]

okay...since you insist...all of the Fantastic four can be easily put under a gen...Madara can take care of them all actually...
see invisible woman is easily weakened when she uses the force field...Mr. fantastic will melt under amateratsu...the Thing is an easy prey to Deidei's bombs! i say with human torch going super nova the akatsuki might have a problem but then again the akatsuki can have the mizukage as bait then they'll have human torch...xD

First of all, Genjutsu is useless against someone not from the Narutoverse, it requires the manipulation of CHAKRA in the ENEMIES head, the F4 have no chakra. The rest of what you said basically revolved around them being under a Genjutsu

[Windking]

Akatsuki with Tobi leading.

[Sock]

lol sorry chakra would have to crossover to cant have your cake and eat it too XP think of it as life force or energy

[Nick Tasogare]

ok f4 is a super hero team the strategy they use is fire off all of your abilities and hope for the best the akatsuki are ninjas they come up within insane strategy and they have no mercy

ok you got me on the torch i still say mr fantastics the first one out and the sharingan for itatchi v.s. the invisible woman

even with the thing and the torch sheer numbers would prevail

Yea, I can see 2 Scientists and a pilot rushing in half cocked/sarcasm. Human Torch can afford to because he's a powerhouse. If you ever saw the movies, or the shows, you'd see that they rely on strategy as well.

[Nick Tasogare]

lol sorry chakra would have to crossover to cant have your cake and eat it too XP think of it as life force or energy

I don't even understand what you mean by this xD

[Sock]

btw a little off topic but any thoughts on disney buying marvel how about the fantastic four being totally left out of marvel vs capcom

[Windking]

I don't even understand what you mean by this xD

Me too..
is he referring to
Science : Force...Work and energy..Lol..xD

Seriously, what does this mean?

[Nick Tasogare]

btw a little off topic but any thoughts on disney buying marvel how about the fantastic four being totally left out of marvel vs capcom

What?! Why does the black hole that is Disney have to ruin everything? First, an anime movie (Poyo?) No Superheroes!? :cry:

[Vivi]

okay...since you insist...all of the Fantastic four can be easily put under a gen...Madara can take care of them all actually...
see invisible woman is easily weakened when she uses the force field...Mr. fantastic will melt under amateratsu...the Thing is an easy prey to Deidei's bombs! i say with human torch going super nova the akatsuki might have a problem but then again the akatsuki can have the mizukage as bait then they'll have human torch...xD

Genjutsu work's by controlling opponents Chakra.
F4 dont have Chakra so it wont work.
SO noone is weakened.
The Thing went took blows from the hulk and still stood.
Itachi's opponent need to remain still in order for Amaterasu to hit.Mr. Fantastic is the kind of fighter who moves alot.

Human Torch just ignites the atmosphere to kill every person on the planet.Noone but him would survive that since he is invulnerable to all heat and fire attacks.
So last man standing.

[Sock]

people need energy to function you know without it your all sleepy or dead lol chakra=mp=sp=ep you know?

[Shkin]

chakra is...okay given they can't be put under gen...
still:
invisible woman has endurance in a battle problem...can't use the force field much or she'll go fainting...
thing may be tough but really will explode to bits and pieces with deidei's bomb
mr. fantastic with the stretching abilities is really not that tough under fire...
so we have human torch as a problem...i say bait him with a girl (i pick the mizukage!) and the rest will follow...=)...we need some ice to put out the fire in human torch...

[Sock]

Genjutsu work's by controlling opponents Chakra.
F4 dont have Chakra so it wont work.
SO noone is weakened.
The Thing went took blows from the hulk and still stood.
Itachi's opponent need to remain still in order for Amaterasu to hit.Mr. Fantastic is the kind of fighter who moves alot.

Human Torch just ignites the atmosphere to kill every person on the planet.Noone but him would survive that since he is invulnerable to all heat and fire attacks.
So last man standing.

lol what about hidan ? he cant die

[Nick Tasogare]

chakra is...okay given they can't be put under gen...
still:
invisible woman has endurance in a battle problem...can't use the force field much or she'll go fainting...
thing may be tough but really will explode to bits and pieces with deidei's bomb
mr. fantastic with the stretching abilities is really not that tough under fire...
so we have human torch as a problem...i say bait him with a girl (i pick the mizukage!) and the rest will follow...=)...we need some ice to put out the fire in human torch...

Not tough, it's nearly impenetrable, I think that if she can penetrate a Guardians leg, and can block lasers, that she can block an explosive. Dude, how the hell would they get the Mizukage as bait again?

[Windking]

people need energy to function you know without it your all sleepy or dead lol chakra=mp=sp=ep you know?


Lol...I guess You like science...xD

i have to admit I think human torch can make a way
but pain has giant summonings..

["Byaku-ingan"]

Not tough, it's nearly impenetrable, I think that if she can penetrate a Guardians leg, and can block lasers, that she can block an explosive. Dude, how the hell would they get the Mizukage as bait again?
They would lure her with promises of hot guys and candy! Rofl.......

[Nick Tasogare]

lol what about hidan ? he cant die

Hidan relies on cutting people and being in his circle. The Thing can toss him, and then get rid of the spot where his circle was drawn by crushing it. Invisible Woman blocks every attempt to stab her, the thing can't be stabbed, the Torch would melt whatever Hidan tried to stab him with, and Fantastic would twist around it. So basically, immortal or not, he doesn't matter, they could blast him into space.

[Vivi]

chakra is...okay given they can't be put under gen...
still:
invisible woman has endurance in a battle problem...can't use the force field much or she'll go fainting...
thing may be tough but really will explode to bits and pieces with deidei's bomb
mr. fantastic with the stretching abilities is really not that tough under fire...
so we have human torch as a problem...i say bait him with a girl (i pick the mizukage!) and the rest will follow...=)...we need some ice to put out the fire in human torch...

Her forcefield is strong enough to halt a city level blast.Unless Deidara uses C0 it wouldnt take a scratch.
Also with her forcefield her strength is aomplified greatly and proven that she can lift 100+ tons by using it.

Also she can make other people and object invisible.So amaterasu is still useless.Itachi cant use it on someone he cant see.
Also she can makes an enemys eyes invisibl so Itachi would tun blind.

[Sock]

lol im not even an akatsuki fan im just a fight fan ^^ but i think you can guess i dont like f4 to much either

[Nick Tasogare]

people need energy to function you know without it your all sleepy or dead lol chakra=mp=sp=ep you know?

They rely on the Power Cosmic. Power Cosmic>Chakra

They would lure her with promises of hot guys and candy! Rofl.......

She's married

And what about The Silver Surfer, or Reed and Sue's kids?

[Windking]

lol im not even an akatsuki fan im just a fight fan ^^ but i think you can guess i dont like f4 to much either

xD..

Its really obvious.
Akatsuki wins...

From hidan being immortal..

[Nick Tasogare]

xD..

Its really obvious.
Akatsuki wins...

From hidan being immortal..

No, read this:

Hidan relies on cutting people and being in his circle. The Thing can toss him, and then get rid of the spot where his circle was drawn by crushing it. Invisible Woman blocks every attempt to stab her, the thing can't be stabbed, the Torch would melt whatever Hidan tried to stab him with, and Fantastic would twist around it. So basically, immortal or not, he doesn't matter, they could blast him into space.

[Vivi]

xD..

Its really obvious.
Akatsuki wins...

From hidan being immortal..

Human Torch can turn him to ashes.

[Sock]

Cosmic power = (in function) chakra

[Sock]

blunt force isnt the only way to kill for everyone overating the things powers

[Nick Tasogare]

Cosmic power = (in function) chakra

So basically, you're saying that a group of Ninja could take on Galactus? Doubtful.
In function, not really. The Power Cosmic gave them their powers(mutated them) Ninja are born with Chakra, it's not a mutation, and they can run out of it.

[Nick Tasogare]

blunt force isnt the only way to kill for everyone overating the things powers

Ok, how are they going to kill him in battle? Offer him poisoned beer?

[Vivi]

Cosmic power = (in function) chakra

FAIL!!!

Cosmic Power>Chakra.
People with Cosmic Power can change or shape everything that exists with a thought.

["Byaku-ingan"]

Ok, how are they going to kill him in battle? Offer him poisoned beer?
Why must you contradict my posts by saying such trivial things like "She's married".......pfft. xD

[Shkin]

ahahaha...that's all i can say now...what are the rules anyway in this battle? why does the f4 have no chakra? chakra is present in every living thing...ahahaha...

[Sock]

Ok, how are they going to kill him in battle? Offer him poisoned beer?

Did you see the newest episode diedras move could kill the thing by exploding his vitals drown poison ... stab through the eye eyes dont harden remember the three tails poison mist etc etc

[Vivi]

ahahaha...that's all i can say now...what are the rules anyway in this battle? why does the f4 have no chakra? chakra is present in every living thing...ahahaha...

Chakra only exists in Narutoverse.
F4 are from Marvel.Something like Chakra doesnt exist in Marvel.

[Sock]

ahahaha...that's all i can say now...what are the rules anyway in this battle? why does the f4 have no chakra? chakra is present in every living thing...ahahaha...

thats what i tried to tell em

[Nick Tasogare]

Did you see the newest episode diedras move could kill the thing by exploding his vitals drown poison ... stab through the eye eyes dont harden remember the three tails poison mist etc etc

You do realize that his insides are also made of rock right?

Force Fields could shield them from mist, or the Torch would suck it into a Vortex and remove it from the field.

[Sock]

lol theres an old n00b term called godmoding lol f4s inching closer and closer to it

[Vivi]

thats what i tried to tell em

And I just explained it.Chakra doesnt exist in Marvel.

[Nick Tasogare]

So you're saying that people in the DC Universe/Marvel Universe, etc have Chakra within them? Next you're gonna tell us that everyone in the real world is capable of performing Jutsu.

[Nick Tasogare]

lol theres an old n00b term called godmoding lol f4s inching closer and closer to it

And how is that? Sure, the Akatsuki could win, but every argument you throw at us, we disprove it, that isn't godmodding, that's being able to debate.

[Sock]

You do realize that his insides are also made of rock right?

Force Fields could shield them from mist, or the Torch would suck it into a Vortex and remove it from the field.

but theres still numbers keeping them busy and seperated would inevitably lead to an akatsuki win

[Nick Tasogare]

but theres still numbers keeping them busy and seperated would inevitably lead to an akatsuki win

You're whole argument is based on numbers. I'm sure they can multi-task :roll:

[Sock]

lol the human torch kills everything
the thing has everyone protecting him while hey are also being attacked by violent deadly mercy lacking disciplined NINJA

[Nick Tasogare]

lol the human torch kills everything
the thing has everyone protecting him while hey are also being attacked by violent deadly mercy lacking disciplined NINJA

But I'm sure that if I threw an "Itachi vs Several people" at you, you would say he'd be able to do some ninja trick, and take them all out, right? Despite having people coming at him.

[Sock]

But I'm sure that if I threw an "Itachi vs Several people" at you, you would say he'd be able to do some ninja trick, and take them all out, right?

maybe maybe not but theres not several people there is 4 vs the 10 akatsuki members super spoiler warning !!!!!pain even has multiple beings

[Sock]

they could have 2 man cells on each member and still have 2 guys chuckin knives an eating popcorn

[Vivi]

but theres still numbers keeping them busy and seperated would inevitably lead to an akatsuki win


Itachi: Invisible Women would blind him Amaterasu is useless.
He cant control Susano'o with bilnd yes.
Sasori: The thing cant be poisoned by his sand,Human Torch can fly up cause he's Hypersonic while his sand is Supersonic only,Invisible Women can use her shield and turn Mr. Fantastic invisible so Sasori cant see him.
Kisame: Human torch would dry his Water away in an instant
Deidara: Human Torch is way faster and can take him down with one flaming punch.
Konan: No Comment.
Hidan: No comment.
Kakuzu: Just like Sasori.
Madara: Not even he can survive it when HT burns down the atmosphere.
Zetsu: Same.
Pain: Same

[Nick Tasogare]

Yet you're whole argument is numbers, because we disproved every possible strategy you've given us. That last post even proves that you are basing this on numbers. @Sock

[Shkin]

Chakra only exists in Narutoverse.
F4 are from Marvel.Something like Chakra doesnt exist in Marvel.
where will the fight be then? who's gonna jump over the fence...akatsuki goes to marvel or f4 goes to narutoverse...:lol: cause if you talk about the real world...i think chakra exists here...:lol:

[Vivi]

where will the fight be then? who's gonna jump over the fence...akatsuki goes to marvel or f4 goes to narutoverse...:lol: cause if you talk about the real world...i think chakra exists here...:lol:

It wouldnt change a thing that F4 wont have Chakra no matter what world they are.They are still Marvel.

[Sock]

>_< an unbiast intelligent (not insulting you) person who was read up on each characters unique abilities would pick the akatsuki the have each others unique abilities incredible strategy (also shared by mr.fantastic) and they fight to kill not save the day in f4 would be blindy defendig one another for the whole fight wheres the offense?

[Nick Tasogare]

where will the fight be then? who's gonna jump over the fence...akatsuki goes to marvel or f4 goes to narutoverse...:lol: cause if you talk about the real world...i think chakra exists here...:lol:

Dude.......the location doesn't matter. The F4 have no Chakra in their bodies, making Genjutsu and Chakra affecting techniques useless. You don't suddenly get endowed with Chakra through an encounter with someone who has it/entering a Universe where it exists.

[Sock]

cosmic energy is chakra dude like literally ask a hippy and a monk

[Nick Tasogare]

>_< an unbiast intelligent (not insulting you) person who was read up on each characters unique abilities would pick the akatsuki the have each others unique abilities incredible strategy (also shared by mr.fantastic) and they fight to kill not save the day in f4 would be blindy defendig one another for the whole fight wheres the offense?

V-Val, I'll let you explain it this time, I'm sick of explaining my point over and over in painstaking detail. Plus, I have no idea what he said here again xD:geek:

[Vivi]

>_< an unbiast intelligent (not insulting you) person who was read up on each characters unique abilities would pick the akatsuki the have each others unique abilities incredible strategy (also shared by mr.fantastic) and they fight to kill not save the day in f4 would be blindy defendig one another for the whole fight wheres the offense?

F4 have the best Teamwork in all of Marvel.
Thing and HT do the all out Offense.
Mr. F an IW help them out by supporting them while eing offensive at the same time.

[Vivi]

cosmic energy is chakra dude like literally ask a hippy and a monk

That's the biggest Bullcrap ever.

Cosmis Powers=People can change whatever they want with a thought.Change the world by just thinking.They can destroy dimension's,Universes just by thinking.

Chakra cant.Its a life force.Cosmic Powers aint.

[Nick Tasogare]

cosmic energy is chakra dude like literally ask a hippy and a monk

The Power Cosmic in so NOT Chakra. Chakra is a natural occurrence in the Narutoverse, giving the people in it Special abilities.

The Power Cosmic is, like it says in the name, Cosmic Power, something that affects the person imbued with it on great levels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Cosmic

["Byaku-ingan"]

The Power Cosmic in so NOT Chakra. Chakra is a natural occurrence in the Narutoverse, giving the people in it Special abilities.

The Power Cosmic is, like it says in the name, Cosmic Power, something that affects the person imbued with it on great levels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Cosmic
You got served.....:ugeek:

[Nick Tasogare]

You got served.....:ugeek:

I did?

[Shkin]

ahahaha...still say sharingan will pawn them all! copy the f4 ahaha...the human torch is their only problem...but there's the mizukage of course...ahahaha...this is getting us nowhere...

[Vivi]

ahahaha...still say sharingan will pawn them all! copy the f4 ahaha...the human torch is their only problem...but there's the mizukage of course...ahahaha...this is getting us nowhere...

Invisible Women can make the Sharingan invisible with her powers.
SO Itachi is blind and the Sharingan useless.

[Nick Tasogare]

ahahaha...still say sharingan will pawn them all! copy the f4 ahaha...the human torch is their only problem...but there's the mizukage of course...ahahaha...this is getting us nowhere...

Regardless of this, which is totally true:

Invisible Women can make the Sharingan invisible with her powers.
SO Itachi is blind and the Sharingan useless.

How would the Sharingan sell them? xD So, you're saying that the Sharingan can copy techniques that use Cosmic Power, which the Uchiha clan doesn't have, and that do not use hand signs, or anything like them?

["Byaku-ingan"]

I did?
Not you lol, her. xD

[Shkin]

Invisible Women can make the Sharingan invisible with her powers.
SO Itachi is blind and the Sharingan useless.
you still have madara...

[Vivi]

you still have madara...

Same for him.Incase you havent noticed he doesnt even have a Mangekyo as you can see when he took off his mask.
Amaterasu,Susano'o,Tsukuyomi are MS Jutsu's so he cant use them.
Also he can only copy Jutsu's which F4 don't use.

[Nick Tasogare]

you still have madara...

She makes his mask invisible, exposes him, then makes his eyes invisible, stopping them from working, then he dies because his Eternal MS, which keeps him alive, stopped working. Then Akatsuki falls apart xD

[Nick Tasogare]

Same for him.Incase you havent noticed he doesnt even have a Mangekyo as you can see when he took off his mask.
Amaterasu,Susano'o,Tsukuyomi are MS Jutsu's so he cant use them.
Also he can only copy Jutsu's which F4 don't use.

CoughyeshedoesMangekyoCoughEternalMSCough

[Vivi]

CoughyeshedoesMangekyoCoughEternalMSCough

Tobi never showed it except in a flashback so we cant assume he really has it.look when he took off his mask he doesnt have it.

[Nick Tasogare]

Tobi never showed it except in a flashback so we cant assume he really has it.look when he took off his mask he doesnt have it.

So, he was seen with it, but that doesn't prove he has it? :???: xD

And we see it through the mask hole several times, as well as when Sasuke used Amateratsu on it, the safeguard from Itachi if he ever saw Tobi/Madara's Sharingan, which is Eternal MS

[Sock]

invisible woman cant be tracked be itachis sharingan she also has her *ahem* stamina issues
mr.fantastic flails about barking order being pretty much dead weight
the thing does his best to clobber as many as he can
and the torch burninates some ninja

but hidan doesnt die so say you bury him okay hes out
kakazu or whatever has 5 hearts and he can use each element
kisame has water style and brute force
itachi is also super 1337 without sharingan im starting to wonder if you watch naruto he excels at everything
pain well >_> i dunno but he prolly does some messed up stuff
diedra that c4 the he did was wicked plus he can make flying bomber etc
zetsu i dunno konan idunno
tobi he is either cannon fodder or a even 1337er itachi
sasori poison, puppet, secret concealed heart blah blah blah epic battle f4 takes the bus home and the akatsuki get a brand new car

[Vivi]

So, he was seen with it, but that doesn't prove he has it? :???: xD

And we see it through the mask hole several times.

You cannot trust someone like Tobi as we saw several times.

What we saw through the mask was infact a normal sharingan with 3 dots.
You can always look over the pages where its close up.

[Sock]

ehh pfft mangekyou sharangan is triggered isnt it?

[Sock]

Not you lol, her. xD
wha wait im a dude byaku-ingan >_<

[Nick Tasogare]

invisible woman cant be tracked be itachis sharingan she also has her *ahem* stamina issues (She can stop building shattering blasts, her stamina isn't an issue)
mr.fantastic flails about barking order being pretty much dead weight (He is one of the smartest men on the earth, and has tons of gadgets, as well as his stretching, so he can fight from afar)
the thing does his best to clobber as many as he can (he also can't be wounded physically)
and the torch burninates some ninja (he can stop the majority of Akatsuki with one blast)

but hidan doesnt die so say you bury him okay hes out (they can fly him into space, done and done)
kakazu or whatever has 5 hearts and he can use each element (so then they just shatter all his masks with fire blasts, long distance punches, energy blasts, weapons, and smashing)
kisame has water style and brute force (He gets wiped out by a giant fire blast, evaporating the water, and cooking him)
itachi is also super 1337 without sharingan im starting to wonder if you watch naruto he excels at everything (he can't see with his eyes invisible, and he relies on the sharingan a lot)
pain well >_> i dunno but he prolly does some messed up stuff (nice argument)
diedra that c4 the he did was wicked plus he can make flying bomber etc (this is where Torch/IW flies the Thing up to him so he can shatter the dragon to bits, and Torch could suck the material from C4 into a vortex as well.)
zetsu i dunno konan idunno (Zetsu gets cooked, he's a plant, and Konan is paper, ever lit paper on fire?)
tobi he is either cannon fodder or a even 1337er itachi (same strategy as Itachi)
sasori poison, puppet, secret concealed heart blah blah blah epic battle f4 takes the bus home and the akatsuki get a brand new car (the smoke gets blocked by a shield, giving Torch time to suck it into a vortex, the thing shatters his heart and body)

Redness

[Nick Tasogare]

You cannot trust someone like Tobi as we saw several times.

What we saw through the mask was infact a normal sharingan with 3 dots.
You can always look over the pages where its close up.

So where does his immortality come from then? Not the Eternal MS?

["Byaku-ingan"]

wha wait im a dude byaku-ingan >_<
I was talking about shkin! Why is everyone mixing up my comments!?

[[Shikamaru]]

Fantastic Four.

Human Torch could take them down himself.
He's hypersonic noone in Akatsuki has shown to be just as fast highest what they possibly are supersonic.
He's a life wiper meaning he can destroy all life on earth if he wants to by igniting the atmosphere.
He flies, so does Deidara, guided missile boom, one down. Kisame is water.. fire + water = steam. Sasori kills mr. fantastic, Itachi finds Ms. Invisible, kills her. Kakuzu restrains the thing, Kisame uses water poison, and slowly drowns him. Madara sits back and watches. If they fail, Pain kills the rest. Sasori, Itachi, Kisame, Pain, Kakuzu, Deidara, Madara, Zetsu can all solo them. Hidan would be the only one killed by 4v1.

[Shkin]

ahahaha...i really can't stop laughing! gosh it took me awhile to type these words...i had to let laughter subside...ahahahaha...

[Sock]

yeah but the way you argue is that the f4 just pull off all the right moves unhindered in a real fight that doesnt happen lol think of 12 different moves ahead of time and go punch someone "no battle plan survives contact with the enemy" call of duty 4 w00t

[Shkin]

I was talking about shkin! Why is everyone mixing up my comments!?
wait..that was me? i actually haven't read the link...ahahaha...why did it serve me when i didn't talk about cosmic power...:shock: gaah! this is confusing...

i second to what [Shikamaru] said...:lol:

[Vivi]

;1078543']He flies, so does Deidara, guided missile boom, one down. Kisame is water.. fire + water = steam. Sasori kills mr. fantastic, Itachi finds Ms. Invisible, kills her. Kakuzu restrains the thing, Kisame uses water poison, and slowly drowns him. Madara sits back and watches. If they fail, Pain kills the rest.

Human Torch can speedblitz Deidara.Making his bombs takes times.Time enough for HT to strike.Boom One down.
Ms. Invisible blinds Itachi pretty much down too.


Or just simply:
Human Torch uses Hypersonic speed which is faster than everyone in Akatsuki and flies up to the limit of Earth-Space and burns the atmosphere which causes the world to burn in thousands of degrees.1 Hit Ko.
Human Torch last man standing cause hes immune to heat and fire.

[Nick Tasogare]

;1078543']He flies, so does Deidara, guided missile boom, one down. (So when he flies so high that an explosion would do nothing because of lack of oxygen, what then? Plus, Deidara can't fly as Torch can)

Kisame is water.. fire + water = steam. (Yea, and when Kisame's water is all gone, Torch blasts him before he can get more)

Sasori kills mr. fantastic, (Way to explain this one)

Itachi finds Ms. Invisible, kills her. (When she's INVISIBLE and he CAN'T SEE, how does this happen?)

Kakuzu restrains the thing, (How, Thing is super strong, and would break the bindings))

Kisame uses water poison, and slowly drowns him. (Torch killed him already)

Madara sits back and watches. If they fail, Pain kills the rest. (Great explanation :roll:)

Sasori, Itachi, Kisame, Pain, Kakuzu, Deidara, Madara, Zetsu can all solo them. (You're explanations astound me yet again)

Hidan would be the only one killed by 4v1. (Yea, he's be thrown into space)

Red again

[Sock]

yeah [shikamaru] becuase hidan is a loud mouth slowpoke

[Nick Tasogare]

yeah but the way you argue is that the f4 just pull off all the right moves unhindered in a real fight that doesnt happen lol think of 12 different moves ahead of time and go punch someone "no battle plan survives contact with the enemy" call of duty 4 w00t

Because we are simply countering what you give us, we never implied that they are thinking 12 steps ahead, we tell you how they would counter, in the heat of the moment, what is thrown at them.

[Shkin]

Human Torch can speedblitz Deidara.Making his bombs takes times.Time enough for HT to strike.Boom One down.
Ms. Invisible blinds Itachi pretty much down too.


Or just simply:
Human Torch uses Hypersonic speed which is faster than everyone in Akatsuki and flies up to the limit of Earth-Space and burns the atmosphere which causes the world to burn in thousands of degrees.1 Hit Ko.
Human Torch last man standing cause hes immune to heat and fire.
have to ask this...i can't remember the details but when torch went after the silver surfer to outer space didn't he like went unconcious and fall to earth...why did that happen again?

[Nine]

(Yea, and when Kisame's water is all gone, Torch blasts him before he can get more)


Water beats fire,Torch dies.

[[Shikamaru]]

You're disagreeing with me? Is this a joke? You believe 4 superheroes can defeat the Akatsuki?

[Vivi]

have to ask this...i can't remember the details but when torch went after the silver surfer to outer space didn't he like went unconcious and fall to earth...why did that happen again?

Keywords: Limit of Earth-Space.
Not in space.

[Nick Tasogare]

Water beats fire,Torch dies.

Water beats fire, sure, but Water does NOT beat Super Nova heat fire. It get's evaporated, and then Torch blasts him, Kisame is gone.

[Nine]

have to ask this...i can't remember the details but when torch went after the silver surfer to outer space didn't he like went unconcious and fall to earth...why did that happen again?
He can't fly into outer space,
1.no Oxygen,no fire.
2.he wont be able to inhale/exhale.

[Vivi]

;1078563']You're disagreeing with me? Is this a joke? You believe 4 superheroes can defeat the Akatsuki?

Yes because you think Akatsuki are all-powerful just because they rule in Naruto.

Marvel is a whole different league.

Human torch can solo them.

[[Shikamaru]]

The torch is the only one that has a chance at survival. The rest would be eliminated in seconds.

[Sock]

okay so the torch is up in the air w diedra and hes on the ground w kisame 2 o.0 mr.fatastic is weak he just bounces back projectiles and stretchs stretched out things lose momentum too btw itachi and madara and kakuzu al hire fire type moves so mr fantastic feels the burn sue storm is only invisible she still makes noise and she still *sighs* smells she can be tracked the thing has has his could be drowned or suffocated etc torch provides a problem but get this ready .... 4<10

[Nick Tasogare]

Our opinion might, MIGHT, change, if someone offered up a good argument.

[Vivi]

;1078570']The torch is the only one that has a chance at survival. The rest would be eliminated in seconds.

1 Hit Ko with Super Nova.

[Shkin]

ahahaha...my point exactly...where is the limit of earth and space when atmosphere gets burned? still torch will die...so a draw?

[Nine]

Water beats fire, sure, but Water does NOT beat Super Nova heat fire. It get's evaporated, and then Torch blasts him, Kisame is gone.
He could flood the battle feild making him useless(unless he flys),then follow up wuth a Water jutsu(all in the begining)

these duds are out numbered,So the Akatsuki have the advanage.While Someone in the F4 is attempting to kill that person,he could be easly killed form another person(In the Akatsuki)

There is really no winner because we would have to see with our own eyes.

[Nick Tasogare]

okay so the torch is up in the air w diedra and hes on the ground w kisame 2 o.0 mr.fatastic is weak he just bounces back projectiles and stretchs stretched out things lose momentum too btw itachi and madara and kakuzu al hire fire type moves so mr fantastic feels the burn sue storm is only invisible she still makes noise and she still *sighs* smells she can be tracked the thing has has his could be drowned or suffocated etc torch provides a problem but get this ready .... 4<10

You should learn Grammar, so that people can understand what you say, and so that you can understand what others say.

Torch can fly at hypersonic speed, so he can go back and forth 10 times before doing anything if he wanted. Sue Storm is NOT only Invisible, she has her force fields, force blasts, energy weapons

[Vivi]

okay so the torch is up in the air w diedra and hes on the ground w kisame 2 o.0 mr.fatastic is weak he just bounces back projectiles and stretchs stretched out things lose momentum too btw itachi and madara and kakuzu al hire fire type moves so mr fantastic feels the burn sue storm is only invisible she still makes noise and she still *sighs* smells she can be tracked the thing has has his could be drowned or suffocated etc torch provides a problem but get this ready .... 4<10


URGH Itachi cant see cause Invisible Women and blind Itachi.
Madara never used Fire Jutsus so that is futile.
Invisible women can shield herself and Mr. F from kakuzu's attack.

4<10 means bullcrap.

Germany had a larger army in WW2 and got trashed due to strategy.

[[Shikamaru]]

1 Hit Ko with Super Nova.
And Deidara's K4? It's literally the human torch vs. Akatsuki, the others are weak, they wouldn't even last a minute. How long can the human torch out run Deidara and Kakuzu's elemental ghost?

[Nick Tasogare]

Ok, I'm going to end this here. Sue and Reed's son Franklin comes in, warps reality to make the Akatsuki never exist, the end.

[Nick Tasogare]

;1078585']And Deidara's K4? It's literally the human torch vs. Akatsuki, the others are weak, they wouldn't even last a minute.

C4....C4, not K4

[Vivi]

;1078585']And Deidara's K4?

Takes prep time.Enough for him to strike with Super Nova.

Also ever heard of what happens to clay when exposed to heat?
It hardens up so it would fall down like a rock.

[Sock]

Ok, I'm going to end this here. Sue and Reed's son Franklin comes in, warps reality to make the Akatsuki never exist, the end.

pfft dq interference akatsuki wins

[Nine]

He could flood the battle feild making him useless(unless he flys),then follow up wuth a Water jutsu(all in the begining)

these duds are out numbered,So the Akatsuki have the advanage.While Someone in the F4 is attempting to kill that person,he could be easly killed form another person(In the Akatsuki)

There is really no winner because we would have to see with our own eyes.
No one likes my side of the story?:evil:

[[Shikamaru]]

Takes prep time.Enough for him to strike with Super Nova.

Also ever heard of what happens to clay when exposed to heat?
It hardens up so it would fall down like a rock.
LOL what about the other members of the Akatsuki? There will be no prep time for supernova. How much area does this.. super nova cover?

[Vivi]

;1078585']And Deidara's K4? It's literally the human torch vs. Akatsuki, the others are weak, they wouldn't even last a minute. How long can the human torch out run Deidara and Kakuzu's elemental ghost?


They would last ages.

Long.Very long he's mach 7.

[Nick Tasogare]

pfft dq interference akatsuki wins

What? And, how do they win when this never happened because they never existed?

[Sock]

lol nine tales thats why I keep saying numbers

[Shkin]

URGH Itachi cant see cause Invisible Women and blind Itachi.
Madara never used Fire Jutsus so that is futile.
Invisible women can shield herself and Mr. F from kakuzu's attack.

4<10 means bullcrap.

Germany had a larger army in WW2 and got trashed due to strategy.
madara is a good strategist. sasuke is a good tactician...as well as itachi...
invisible woman cannot use the shield many time and can't prolong its use...it will cause her her life...

[Vivi]

;1078596']LOL what about the other members of the Akatsuki? There will be no prep time for supernova. How much area does this.. super nova cover?

He's too fast.He would descend into the air before anyone of them can even start a handseal.

[Nick Tasogare]

The Invisible Woman, as her name suggests, has the power to render herself invisible at will, as a result of the mutagenic effects of exposure to cosmic radiation. She has the psionic ability to manipulate ambient cosmic energy to mentally bend all wavelengths of light (including infrared and ultraviolet radiation) around her body without causing any visible distortion; she also somehow directs enough undistorted light to her eyes to retain her sight while invisible. Her body cells produce an unknown form of energy that she can mentally project around other people or objects, rendering them invisible. She can also use this energy to render visible, persons or objects rendered invisible by other means, and energy that is normally invisible.
Although invisibility is her namesake power, she also has the psionic ability to manipulate ambient cosmic energy to produce psionic force in relatively simple forms (rectangular planes, globes, cylinders, cones, domes, etc.). She can mentally generate and project force fields of tremendous strength, which she manipulates for a variety of effects. The fields are able to repel solid objects, even those of great mass and momentum, and can repel all but the very strongest energy attacks. She can generate these fields at a distance of several hundred feet. It has never been specified whether her fields are related to gravity, to electromagnetism, or to some other fundamental force, but Nathaniel Richards theorized it came from Hyperspace. It may be the case that her invisibility and her force fields are two aspects of the same power, although the precise manner in which these aspects are related is not clear.
Sue can shape her force fields into invisible 'constructs,' usually simple shapes such as barriers, columns, cones, cylinders, darts, discs, domes, platforms, rams, ramps, slides, and spheres, though in other situations she has created more complex shapes such as a sword and offensive grappling hooks.[25] By generating additional force behind her constructs, she can turn them into offensive weapons, ranging from massive invisible battering rams to small projectiles such as spears and darts. She can generate force constructs as small as a marble or as large as 100 feet (30 m) in diameter, and her hollow projections such as domes can extend up to several miles in area. By forming one of her force fields within an object and expanding the field, Sue can cause the object to explode. She can also simulate telekinesis, by projecting her energy into a beam out of her hand that connects to the object or victim, and can manipulate the field to move it around. Her force field generating ability makes the Invisible Woman (arguably) the most powerful member of the Fantastic Four and one of the most powerful Marvel characters, and their deadliest enemy Doctor Doom has commented on many occasions that Sue is the most dangerous of the foursome.
She can also travel atop constructs such as ramps, stairs, slides, columns, and stepping discs, enabling her to simulate a limited approximation of levitation or 'flight.' She is capable of generating and manipulating multiple force fields simultaneously. This power is only limited by her concentration; once she stops concentrating on a field, it immediately ceases to exist.
She is also able to make shapes which capture ambient light to use as a lantern.
Formerly, she could not use her invisibility and force field powers simultaneously. She formerly could not render herself and a person or object not in contact with her invisible simultaneously.
Susan is a fair hand-to-hand combatant, having been trained by Iron Fist,[26] and having received additional coaching from both the Thing and the She-Hulk. She possesses leadership qualities, and usually acts as the Fantastic Four leader in Mister Fantastic's absence. Sue is also a talented actress.

[Nine]

It also takes time for Torch to heat up for a Super nova(as seen in the movie).
Also it would be a draw because no one would be there to contain the Super nova,meaning this is over.

[Sock]

What? And, how do they win when this never happened because they never existed?
ok lol nobody wins happy ... but you ran away buck buck bucuck

[[Shikamaru]]

Ugh, this is pointless. Can't compare Marvel to Naruto.

[Shkin]

ahahaha...where is the limit of earth and space when atmosphere gets burned? still torch will die...so a draw?
repost...

if no one will concede...lets just call it a draw...and a good day..ahahaha...this really made my day! xD

[Sock]

He's too fast.He would descend into the air before anyone of them can even start a handseal.
your really hurting your own cuase

[Nick Tasogare]

The Invisible Woman, as her name suggests, has the power to render herself invisible at will, as a result of the mutagenic effects of exposure to cosmic radiation. She has the psionic ability to manipulate ambient cosmic energy to mentally bend all wavelengths of light (including infrared and ultraviolet radiation) around her body without causing any visible distortion; she also somehow directs enough undistorted light to her eyes to retain her sight while invisible. Her body cells produce an unknown form of energy that she can mentally project around other people or objects, rendering them invisible. She can also use this energy to render visible, persons or objects rendered invisible by other means, and energy that is normally invisible.
Although invisibility is her namesake power, she also has the psionic ability to manipulate ambient cosmic energy to produce psionic force in relatively simple forms (rectangular planes, globes, cylinders, cones, domes, etc.). She can mentally generate and project force fields of tremendous strength, which she manipulates for a variety of effects. The fields are able to repel solid objects, even those of great mass and momentum, and can repel all but the very strongest energy attacks. She can generate these fields at a distance of several hundred feet. It has never been specified whether her fields are related to gravity, to electromagnetism, or to some other fundamental force, but Nathaniel Richards theorized it came from Hyperspace. It may be the case that her invisibility and her force fields are two aspects of the same power, although the precise manner in which these aspects are related is not clear.
Sue can shape her force fields into invisible 'constructs,' usually simple shapes such as barriers, columns, cones, cylinders, darts, discs, domes, platforms, rams, ramps, slides, and spheres, though in other situations she has created more complex shapes such as a sword and offensive grappling hooks.[25] By generating additional force behind her constructs, she can turn them into offensive weapons, ranging from massive invisible battering rams to small projectiles such as spears and darts. She can generate force constructs as small as a marble or as large as 100 feet (30 m) in diameter, and her hollow projections such as domes can extend up to several miles in area. By forming one of her force fields within an object and expanding the field, Sue can cause the object to explode. She can also simulate telekinesis, by projecting her energy into a beam out of her hand that connects to the object or victim, and can manipulate the field to move it around. Her force field generating ability makes the Invisible Woman (arguably) the most powerful member of the Fantastic Four and one of the most powerful Marvel characters, and their deadliest enemy Doctor Doom has commented on many occasions that Sue is the most dangerous of the foursome.
She can also travel atop constructs such as ramps, stairs, slides, columns, and stepping discs, enabling her to simulate a limited approximation of levitation or 'flight.' She is capable of generating and manipulating multiple force fields simultaneously. This power is only limited by her concentration; once she stops concentrating on a field, it immediately ceases to exist.
She is also able to make shapes which capture ambient light to use as a lantern.
Formerly, she could not use her invisibility and force field powers simultaneously. She formerly could not render herself and a person or object not in contact with her invisible simultaneously.
Susan is a fair hand-to-hand combatant, having been trained by Iron Fist,[26] and having received additional coaching from both the Thing and the She-Hulk. She possesses leadership qualities, and usually acts as the Fantastic Four leader in Mister Fantastic's absence. Sue is also a talented actress.

Tell me she's weak now.

[Nine]

He's too fast.He would descend into the air before anyone of them can even start a handseal.
He won't be able to go into the air because its cloder meaning it wont be a strong,Also if he goes any higher,he would go out of fire because there is less oxygen in the stratosphere and Atmosphere.

[Vivi]

It also takes time for Torch to heat up for a Super nova(as seen in the movie).
Also it would be a draw because no one would be there to contain the Super nova,meaning this is over.

He has enough prep-time.
He can fly way higher into the air than Deidara meaning no attack will reach him.

Also F4 will win if SuperNova has been used cause Human Torch is invulnerable to heat and fire attacks.So last man standing.

[rose93]

haha akatsuki

[Nero]

Fantastic 4

The thing can tank any thing he tanked a nuclear then he can tank any thing ..

Human Torch Can beat Kisame , Sasori , Deidara , Zetsu

Invisible woman Can Beat every one since she is invisible so they won't see Except Itachi who can she beat ..

Mr. Fantastic can Capture everyone and just leave the thing Do the Hard Job

[Nick Tasogare]

;1078613']Ugh, this is pointless. Can't compare Marvel to Naruto.

How? Because beings in the Marvel Universe can alter Reality, but people in the Narutoverse can't come close to that?

[Vivi]

He won't be able to go into the air because its cloder meaning it wont be a strong,Also if he goes any higher,he would go out of fire because there is less oxygen in the stratosphere and Atmosphere.

He can still get high enough so that no attack will hit him.

[Sock]

rose run while you run and dont look back

[Vivi]

Fantastic 4

The thing can tank any thing he tanked a nuclear then he can tank any thing ..

Human Torch Can beat Kisame , Sasori , Deidara , Zetsu

Invisible woman Can Beat every one since she is invisible so they won't see Except Itachi who can she beat ..

Mr. Fantastic can Capture everyone and just leave the thing Do the Hard Job



*Bows* Hero!!

[[Shikamaru]]

He can still get high enough so that no attack will hit him.
If he comes down, they will kill him.

[Nick Tasogare]

The Human Torch gained a number of superhuman powers as a result of the mutagenic effects of the cosmic radiation he was exposed to, all of which are related to fire/plasma. His primary power is the ability to envelop his entire body in fiery plasma without harm to himself, in which form he is able to fly and to generate powerful streams and/or 'balls' of fire. He can also manipulate his flame in such a way as to shape it into rings, cages, etc. Even when not engulfed in flame himself, the Torch has the ability to control any fire within his immediate range of vision, causing it to increase or decrease in intensity or to move in a pattern directed by his thoughts. Additionally, he is able to absorb fire/plasma into his body with no detrimental effects (he once absorbed the entire fireball of a nuclear explosion).
By providing thrust behind him with his own flame, the Torch is able to fly in excess of the speed of sound. The plasma field immediately surrounding his body is sufficiently hot to vaporize projectiles that approach him, including but not limited to bullets. He does not generally extend this flame-aura beyond a few inches from his skin, so as not to ignite objects (or persons) in proximity to him. The Human Torch refers to his maximum flame output as his "Nova Flame," which is released omni-directionally and can reach 1,000,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Flame of any temperature lower than this cannot burn or harm the Torch. This "Nova" effect can occur spontaneously when he absorbs an excessive amount of heat into his body, although he can momentarily suppress the release when necessary with considerable effort. The Human Torch can also direct beams of "Nova Heat" as an offensive weapon for very brief periods of time before his energy reserves give out. Once, when his power was briefly increased by his nephew Franklin Richards, the Torch's Nova Flame "rivaled the heat of a main sequence star."
Johnny has been shown to have a high degree of control over his powers. This control is likely due to the extreme amount of discipline Johnny practices. When his sister, Susan Storm, switched powers with him she was almost incapable of controlling her new powers, constantly spilling out ambient heat and often setting nearby objects aflame without realizing it. Comparatively, Johnny has demonstrated enough control that he can hold a person while in his flame form without his passenger feeling the slightest bit of heat. His knowledge extends to general information about fire as well, supported by regular visits to fire safety lectures at various firehouses in New York.
The Torch's ability to ignite himself is limited by the quantity of oxygen in his environment. He can re-ignite instantly once oxygen is returned, with no ill effects. Based on the distinct speech bubbles that accompany the Human Torch whenever he is aflame, his voice apparently changes whenever he is using his powers. Johnny has shown the ability to detect heat signatures (infra-red vision).
Johnny also briefly had his powers switched with his sister The Invisible Woman, and thus became the Invisible Man. During this time Galactus took Johnny and made him his herald, augmenting his invisible powers with the Power Cosmic. As a Herald of Galactus, Johnny had all of The Invisible Woman's powers augmented to a cosmic degree, as well as being able to see past all concealments and illusions into the primal truths. This power allowed Johnny to see Galactus as he really is. Johnny exhausted the Power Cosmic from his body when he used it to power a device designed to separate the cosmic Galactus energy from Galan (Galactus' humanoid origin). Recently Johnny was re-powered with the Power Cosmic, during a battle with the Silver Surfer, and jokingly dubbed himself the Cosmic Torch. It is yet to be seen if he will retain the Power Cosmic, although at the end of the issue he still appeared to be cosmically powered.
Very early in his career (i.e., Fantastic Four issues #1 and 2) the Torch was depicted as transmuting his body itself into living flame; in all subsequent appearances his power consists in the generation of a flaming aura.
The Human Torch was trained in hand-to-hand combat by the Thing, and is highly skilled in the use of his superhuman powers in combat. Johnny is also a highly skilled race-car driver and an expert auto mechanic and designer.

[Vivi]

;1078631']If he comes down, they will kill him.

There will be no coming down cause he will charge Super Nova.

[Nick Tasogare]

Invisible Woman and The Torch could obliterate them without the Thing or Mr. Fantastic. Invisible Woman is arguably the strongest and most dangerous of the 4.

[Nine]

He could flood the battle feild making him useless(unless he flys),then follow up wuth a Water jutsu(all in the begining)

these duds are out numbered,So the Akatsuki have the advanage.While Someone in the F4 is attempting to kill that person,he could be easly killed form another person(In the Akatsuki)

There is really no winner because we would have to see with our own eyes.

It also takes time for Torch to heat up for a Super nova(as seen in the movie).
Also it would be a draw because no one would be there to contain the Super nova,meaning this is over.

He can still get high enough so that no attack will hit him.
So your telling me he will go up higer till he dies form lack of oxygen?

[Shkin]

He has enough prep-time.
He can fly way higher into the air than Deidara meaning no attack will reach him.

Also F4 will win if SuperNova has been used cause Human Torch is invulnerable to heat and fire attacks.So last man standing.

after the super nova thing earth will be gone so is oxygen so is torch (dead!) so no one wins...oh there's hidan's head in outer space...still blabbing about jashin!...ahahaha so akatsuki wins...

[Nick Tasogare]

Invisible Woman and The Torch could obliterate them without the Thing or Mr. Fantastic. Invisible Woman is arguably the strongest and most dangerous of the 4.

The Human Torch gained a number of superhuman powers as a result of the mutagenic effects of the cosmic radiation he was exposed to, all of which are related to fire/plasma. His primary power is the ability to envelop his entire body in fiery plasma without harm to himself, in which form he is able to fly and to generate powerful streams and/or 'balls' of fire. He can also manipulate his flame in such a way as to shape it into rings, cages, etc. Even when not engulfed in flame himself, the Torch has the ability to control any fire within his immediate range of vision, causing it to increase or decrease in intensity or to move in a pattern directed by his thoughts. Additionally, he is able to absorb fire/plasma into his body with no detrimental effects (he once absorbed the entire fireball of a nuclear explosion).
By providing thrust behind him with his own flame, the Torch is able to fly in excess of the speed of sound. The plasma field immediately surrounding his body is sufficiently hot to vaporize projectiles that approach him, including but not limited to bullets. He does not generally extend this flame-aura beyond a few inches from his skin, so as not to ignite objects (or persons) in proximity to him. The Human Torch refers to his maximum flame output as his "Nova Flame," which is released omni-directionally and can reach 1,000,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Flame of any temperature lower than this cannot burn or harm the Torch. This "Nova" effect can occur spontaneously when he absorbs an excessive amount of heat into his body, although he can momentarily suppress the release when necessary with considerable effort. The Human Torch can also direct beams of "Nova Heat" as an offensive weapon for very brief periods of time before his energy reserves give out. Once, when his power was briefly increased by his nephew Franklin Richards, the Torch's Nova Flame "rivaled the heat of a main sequence star."
Johnny has been shown to have a high degree of control over his powers. This control is likely due to the extreme amount of discipline Johnny practices. When his sister, Susan Storm, switched powers with him she was almost incapable of controlling her new powers, constantly spilling out ambient heat and often setting nearby objects aflame without realizing it. Comparatively, Johnny has demonstrated enough control that he can hold a person while in his flame form without his passenger feeling the slightest bit of heat. His knowledge extends to general information about fire as well, supported by regular visits to fire safety lectures at various firehouses in New York.
The Torch's ability to ignite himself is limited by the quantity of oxygen in his environment. He can re-ignite instantly once oxygen is returned, with no ill effects. Based on the distinct speech bubbles that accompany the Human Torch whenever he is aflame, his voice apparently changes whenever he is using his powers. Johnny has shown the ability to detect heat signatures (infra-red vision).
Johnny also briefly had his powers switched with his sister The Invisible Woman, and thus became the Invisible Man. During this time Galactus took Johnny and made him his herald, augmenting his invisible powers with the Power Cosmic. As a Herald of Galactus, Johnny had all of The Invisible Woman's powers augmented to a cosmic degree, as well as being able to see past all concealments and illusions into the primal truths. This power allowed Johnny to see Galactus as he really is. Johnny exhausted the Power Cosmic from his body when he used it to power a device designed to separate the cosmic Galactus energy from Galan (Galactus' humanoid origin). Recently Johnny was re-powered with the Power Cosmic, during a battle with the Silver Surfer, and jokingly dubbed himself the Cosmic Torch. It is yet to be seen if he will retain the Power Cosmic, although at the end of the issue he still appeared to be cosmically powered.
Very early in his career (i.e., Fantastic Four issues #1 and 2) the Torch was depicted as transmuting his body itself into living flame; in all subsequent appearances his power consists in the generation of a flaming aura.
The Human Torch was trained in hand-to-hand combat by the Thing, and is highly skilled in the use of his superhuman powers in combat. Johnny is also a highly skilled race-car driver and an expert auto mechanic and designer.

The Invisible Woman, as her name suggests, has the power to render herself invisible at will, as a result of the mutagenic effects of exposure to cosmic radiation. She has the psionic ability to manipulate ambient cosmic energy to mentally bend all wavelengths of light (including infrared and ultraviolet radiation) around her body without causing any visible distortion; she also somehow directs enough undistorted light to her eyes to retain her sight while invisible. Her body cells produce an unknown form of energy that she can mentally project around other people or objects, rendering them invisible. She can also use this energy to render visible, persons or objects rendered invisible by other means, and energy that is normally invisible.
Although invisibility is her namesake power, she also has the psionic ability to manipulate ambient cosmic energy to produce psionic force in relatively simple forms (rectangular planes, globes, cylinders, cones, domes, etc.). She can mentally generate and project force fields of tremendous strength, which she manipulates for a variety of effects. The fields are able to repel solid objects, even those of great mass and momentum, and can repel all but the very strongest energy attacks. She can generate these fields at a distance of several hundred feet. It has never been specified whether her fields are related to gravity, to electromagnetism, or to some other fundamental force, but Nathaniel Richards theorized it came from Hyperspace. It may be the case that her invisibility and her force fields are two aspects of the same power, although the precise manner in which these aspects are related is not clear.
Sue can shape her force fields into invisible 'constructs,' usually simple shapes such as barriers, columns, cones, cylinders, darts, discs, domes, platforms, rams, ramps, slides, and spheres, though in other situations she has created more complex shapes such as a sword and offensive grappling hooks.[25] By generating additional force behind her constructs, she can turn them into offensive weapons, ranging from massive invisible battering rams to small projectiles such as spears and darts. She can generate force constructs as small as a marble or as large as 100 feet (30 m) in diameter, and her hollow projections such as domes can extend up to several miles in area. By forming one of her force fields within an object and expanding the field, Sue can cause the object to explode. She can also simulate telekinesis, by projecting her energy into a beam out of her hand that connects to the object or victim, and can manipulate the field to move it around. Her force field generating ability makes the Invisible Woman (arguably) the most powerful member of the Fantastic Four and one of the most powerful Marvel characters, and their deadliest enemy Doctor Doom has commented on many occasions that Sue is the most dangerous of the foursome.
She can also travel atop constructs such as ramps, stairs, slides, columns, and stepping discs, enabling her to simulate a limited approximation of levitation or 'flight.' She is capable of generating and manipulating multiple force fields simultaneously. This power is only limited by her concentration; once she stops concentrating on a field, it immediately ceases to exist.
She is also able to make shapes which capture ambient light to use as a lantern.
Formerly, she could not use her invisibility and force field powers simultaneously. She formerly could not render herself and a person or object not in contact with her invisible simultaneously.
Susan is a fair hand-to-hand combatant, having been trained by Iron Fist,[26] and having received additional coaching from both the Thing and the She-Hulk. She possesses leadership qualities, and usually acts as the Fantastic Four leader in Mister Fantastic's absence. Sue is also a talented actress.

Like I said, these two could take on Akatsuki and obliterate.

[Vivi]

So your telling me he will go up higer till he dies form lack of oxygen?

Just high enough so he has enough.

He has more flying experience than Deidara.
A person can get used to it once done enough.

[[Shikamaru]]

What is super nova? A temperature increase? What's it's radius? How long does it last? Is it a ranged attack? How does he plan on hitting them?

[Nine]

Just high enough so he has enough.

He has more flying experience than Deidara.
A person can get used to it once done enough.
OK so do you know that he will hit the stratiusphere,meaning death?

[Nick Tasogare]

;1078646']What is super nova? A temperature increase? What's it's radius? How long does it last? Is it a ranged attack? How does he plan on hitting them?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernova

[Vivi]

after the super nova thing earth will be gone so is oxygen so is torch (dead!) so no one wins...oh there's hidan's head in outer space...still blabbing about jashin!...ahahaha so akatsuki wins...

A Super Nova is felt further than the earth.We're talking about thousands of degrees.Hidan would get turned to ashes.

[Sock]

have you ever heard of cannon and noncannon storyline/abilities one of marvels problems is that they kick comics around to so many different people that everyone has their version of each charachter and team etc so the fantastic four may not even have galactus stopping powers plus theres no power cosmic in the narutoverse

[Shkin]

Invisible Woman and The Torch could obliterate them without the Thing or Mr. Fantastic. Invisible Woman is arguably the strongest and most dangerous of the 4.
ahahaha..you really have this thing with invisible woman...sorry didn't read the post about her...bleeds the eye...xD from what i've seen from the movies and comics...invisible woman is a fainter...xD always reaches her limits...

[Nick Tasogare]

He doesn't need to go in the air for Super Nova, he can do it from the ground.

[[Shikamaru]]

Lol, dude.. invisible woman is weak.. she has force fields for attacks.. it's weaker then Kakuzu's wind element ghost. All she can do is hide and wait for the human torch to 'super nova' which wouldn't work.

[Vivi]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernova

Was it shockwaves?Well wont matter they all would die including a lost in space hidan.

[Nine]

;1078646']What is super nova? A temperature increase? What's it's radius? How long does it last? Is it a ranged attack? How does he plan on hitting them?
The thing that Sue and Torch did to kill Von Doom,but what im telling them,is that when he goes up,he will burn out.

[Sock]

you cant get used to not having oxygen gee wiz >_>

[Nick Tasogare]

plus theres no power cosmic in the narutoverse

And what does that matter? Just because it isn't in the Narutoverse doesn't mean the F4 don't have it. It's in their bodies. And if that's your argument, here's mine: There's no Chakra in the Marvel Universe.

[Nine]

He doesn't need to go in the air for Super Nova, he can do it from the ground.
he would be too wet form Kisame flooding the field.

[Nick Tasogare]

;1078654']Lol, dude.. invisible woman is weak.. she has force fields for attacks.. it's weaker then Kakuzu's wind element ghost. All she can do is hide and wait for the human torch to 'super nova' which wouldn't work.

The Invisible Woman, as her name suggests, has the power to render herself invisible at will, as a result of the mutagenic effects of exposure to cosmic radiation. She has the psionic ability to manipulate ambient cosmic energy to mentally bend all wavelengths of light (including infrared and ultraviolet radiation) around her body without causing any visible distortion; she also somehow directs enough undistorted light to her eyes to retain her sight while invisible. Her body cells produce an unknown form of energy that she can mentally project around other people or objects, rendering them invisible. She can also use this energy to render visible, persons or objects rendered invisible by other means, and energy that is normally invisible.
Although invisibility is her namesake power, she also has the psionic ability to manipulate ambient cosmic energy to produce psionic force in relatively simple forms (rectangular planes, globes, cylinders, cones, domes, etc.). She can mentally generate and project force fields of tremendous strength, which she manipulates for a variety of effects. The fields are able to repel solid objects, even those of great mass and momentum, and can repel all but the very strongest energy attacks. She can generate these fields at a distance of several hundred feet. It has never been specified whether her fields are related to gravity, to electromagnetism, or to some other fundamental force, but Nathaniel Richards theorized it came from Hyperspace. It may be the case that her invisibility and her force fields are two aspects of the same power, although the precise manner in which these aspects are related is not clear.
Sue can shape her force fields into invisible 'constructs,' usually simple shapes such as barriers, columns, cones, cylinders, darts, discs, domes, platforms, rams, ramps, slides, and spheres, though in other situations she has created more complex shapes such as a sword and offensive grappling hooks.[25] By generating additional force behind her constructs, she can turn them into offensive weapons, ranging from massive invisible battering rams to small projectiles such as spears and darts. She can generate force constructs as small as a marble or as large as 100 feet (30 m) in diameter, and her hollow projections such as domes can extend up to several miles in area. By forming one of her force fields within an object and expanding the field, Sue can cause the object to explode. She can also simulate telekinesis, by projecting her energy into a beam out of her hand that connects to the object or victim, and can manipulate the field to move it around. Her force field generating ability makes the Invisible Woman (arguably) the most powerful member of the Fantastic Four and one of the most powerful Marvel characters, and their deadliest enemy Doctor Doom has commented on many occasions that Sue is the most dangerous of the foursome.
She can also travel atop constructs such as ramps, stairs, slides, columns, and stepping discs, enabling her to simulate a limited approximation of levitation or 'flight.' She is capable of generating and manipulating multiple force fields simultaneously. This power is only limited by her concentration; once she stops concentrating on a field, it immediately ceases to exist.
She is also able to make shapes which capture ambient light to use as a lantern.
Formerly, she could not use her invisibility and force field powers simultaneously. She formerly could not render herself and a person or object not in contact with her invisible simultaneously.
Susan is a fair hand-to-hand combatant, having been trained by Iron Fist,[26] and having received additional coaching from both the Thing and the She-Hulk. She possesses leadership qualities, and usually acts as the Fantastic Four leader in Mister Fantastic's absence. Sue is also a talented actress.

[Vivi]

;1078654']Lol, dude.. invisible woman is weak.. she has force fields for attacks.. it's weaker then Kakuzu's wind element ghost. All she can do is hide and wait for the human torch to 'super nova' which wouldn't work.

her shield is strong enough to defend from City Blast levels.So unless Deidara uses C0 it wouldnt do a scratch.

[Shkin]

A Super Nova is felt further than the earth.We're talking about thousands of degrees.Hidan would get turned to ashes.
ahahaha...hidans head was thrown lightyears away so it can't be reached by the super nova...but torch on the other hand got no place to return now...no oxygen available so...TORCH DIES! ahahaha..akatsuki wins!

[Nick Tasogare]

he would be too wet form Kisame flooding the field.

So then he would float a hundred feet, bam, SuperNova=Death

[Sock]

hidan cannot die though he can only be separted or restrained ( I wonder if that ever plays a role in future episodes)

[Vivi]

he would be too wet form Kisame flooding the field.

That also takes time.

BTW did I happen to mention he can create fire clones as many as he wants?
All Hypersonic.

[Nick Tasogare]

hidan cannot die though he can only be separted or restrained ( I wonder if that ever plays a role in future episodes)

So, you're saying NOW, that he could stay alive as ashes?

[Nine]

Thats true,if he uses Super Nove,the Earth will burn up,No Oxygen,no flame.
Draw.

[Nick Tasogare]

The Invisible Woman, as her name suggests, has the power to render herself invisible at will, as a result of the mutagenic effects of exposure to cosmic radiation. She has the psionic ability to manipulate ambient cosmic energy to mentally bend all wavelengths of light (including infrared and ultraviolet radiation) around her body without causing any visible distortion; she also somehow directs enough undistorted light to her eyes to retain her sight while invisible. Her body cells produce an unknown form of energy that she can mentally project around other people or objects, rendering them invisible. She can also use this energy to render visible, persons or objects rendered invisible by other means, and energy that is normally invisible.
Although invisibility is her namesake power, she also has the psionic ability to manipulate ambient cosmic energy to produce psionic force in relatively simple forms (rectangular planes, globes, cylinders, cones, domes, etc.). She can mentally generate and project force fields of tremendous strength, which she manipulates for a variety of effects. The fields are able to repel solid objects, even those of great mass and momentum, and can repel all but the very strongest energy attacks. She can generate these fields at a distance of several hundred feet. It has never been specified whether her fields are related to gravity, to electromagnetism, or to some other fundamental force, but Nathaniel Richards theorized it came from Hyperspace. It may be the case that her invisibility and her force fields are two aspects of the same power, although the precise manner in which these aspects are related is not clear.
Sue can shape her force fields into invisible 'constructs,' usually simple shapes such as barriers, columns, cones, cylinders, darts, discs, domes, platforms, rams, ramps, slides, and spheres, though in other situations she has created more complex shapes such as a sword and offensive grappling hooks.[25] By generating additional force behind her constructs, she can turn them into offensive weapons, ranging from massive invisible battering rams to small projectiles such as spears and darts. She can generate force constructs as small as a marble or as large as 100 feet (30 m) in diameter, and her hollow projections such as domes can extend up to several miles in area. By forming one of her force fields within an object and expanding the field, Sue can cause the object to explode. She can also simulate telekinesis, by projecting her energy into a beam out of her hand that connects to the object or victim, and can manipulate the field to move it around. Her force field generating ability makes the Invisible Woman (arguably) the most powerful member of the Fantastic Four and one of the most powerful Marvel characters, and their deadliest enemy Doctor Doom has commented on many occasions that Sue is the most dangerous of the foursome.
She can also travel atop constructs such as ramps, stairs, slides, columns, and stepping discs, enabling her to simulate a limited approximation of levitation or 'flight.' She is capable of generating and manipulating multiple force fields simultaneously. This power is only limited by her concentration; once she stops concentrating on a field, it immediately ceases to exist.
She is also able to make shapes which capture ambient light to use as a lantern.
Formerly, she could not use her invisibility and force field powers simultaneously. She formerly could not render herself and a person or object not in contact with her invisible simultaneously.
Susan is a fair hand-to-hand combatant, having been trained by Iron Fist,[26] and having received additional coaching from both the Thing and the She-Hulk. She possesses leadership qualities, and usually acts as the Fantastic Four leader in Mister Fantastic's absence. Sue is also a talented actress.

Yea, I can see how she's weak/sarcasm

[Vivi]

ahahaha...hidans head was thrown lightyears away so it can't be reached by the super nova...but torch on the other hand got no place to return now...no oxygen available so...TORCH DIES! ahahaha..akatsuki wins!

Noone ever said lightyears.If it was lightyears he'd e thrown into the sun.

[Nick Tasogare]

Thats true,if he uses Super Nove,the Earth will burn up,No Oxygen,no flame.

That's why he centralizes it, so Sue can cage it, and the Akatsuki within a field, boom, F4 wins.

[[Shikamaru]]

her shield is strong enough to defend from City Blast levels.So unless Deidara uses C0 it wouldnt do a scratch.
#1, if she had chakra, Itachi would be able to locate her, and kill her. But, because they don't that gives her an advantage, and the human torch. Super nova wouldn't be possible if he had chakra, not even the 9 tails would be able to do that much damage. This thread is a waste of time, you cannot compare marvel to naruto. If they were in the show with those same powers, powered by chakra, they would be killed pretty fast.

[Nick Tasogare]

;1078686']#1, if she had chakra, Itachi would be able to locate her, and kill her. But, because they don't that gives her an advantage, and the human torch. Super nova wouldn't be possible if he had chakra, not even the 9 tails would be able to do that much damage. This thread is a waste of time, you cannot compare marvel to naruto. If they were in the show with those same powers, powered by chakra, they would be killed pretty fast.

What was the point of this?

[Sock]

And what does that matter? Just because it isn't in the Narutoverse doesn't mean the F4 don't have it. It's in their bodies. And if that's your argument, here's mine: There's no Chakra in the Marvel Universe.
lol thats why I said that now your contradicting yourself
heres mine due to germs in the narutoverse originating from tailed beast
farts that linger around for centuries the akatsuki has developed an immunity to it but it cuase f4 a slow painful war of the worlds copyright infringing death if they are in the marvel universe the akatsuki are carriers

[Nine]

That's why he centralizes it, so Sue can cage it, and the Akatsuki within a field, boom, F4 wins.
You can't assume that she is right there,ready to do that.There is so many outcomes of this battle,it's not even funny.You have to take EVERYTHING into account on the day of the battle.

EX.)what if it was raining?Ya know.

[Shkin]

after super nova...black hole...everyone dies...except hidan who floats in space with jashin...akatsuki wins!

[Vivi]

You can't assume that she is right there,ready to do that.There is so many outcomes of this battle,it's not even funny.You have to take EVERYTHING into account on the day of the battle.

EX.)what if it was raining?Ya know.

Still capable of using Supernova.He doesnt need to be in flame mode.

[Nick Tasogare]

have you ever heard of cannon and noncannon storyline/abilities one of marvels problems is that they kick comics around to so many different people that everyone has their version of each charachter and team etc so the fantastic four may not even have galactus stopping powers plus theres no power cosmic in the narutoverse

And that hasn't happened in Naruto? CoughIceStyleCoughHyotoncough

lol thats why I said that now your contradicting yourself
heres mine due to germs in the narutoverse originating from tailed beast
farts that linger around for centuries the akatsuki has developed an immunity to it but it cuase f4 a slow painful war of the worlds copyright infringing death if they are in the marvel universe the akatsuki are carriers

WT F Are you talking about? Try and at least make sense ONCE in awhile.

I have to hand it to you, you're an excellent troll

[Nine]

after super nova...black hole...everyone dies...except hidan who floats in space with jashin...akatsuki wins!
I don't feel like explaining why he would die.:roll:

[Sock]

im just bored of trying to make valid points now im just killing time

[Neji_Hyuga]

i thuink the akatsuki would win

[Nick Tasogare]

You can't assume that she is right there,ready to do that.There is so many outcomes of this battle,it's not even funny.You have to take EVERYTHING into account on the day of the battle.

EX.)what if it was raining?Ya know.

And you guys can't assume that Kisame is going to be ready to drown The Thing because Kakuzu tied him up.

For Example: What if they were in a desert?

[Nine]

Still capable of using Supernova.He doesnt need to be in flame mode.
Ahhhh i think he needs to be hot to do that.

What is Sue is not there to contain it?????

[Shkin]

@ ninetailed: [Hidan] won't die cause he'll meet aliens who's gonna help him have a body then he'll have aliens to keep him immortal...ahahahaha....

[Nine]

And you guys can't assume that Kisame is going to be ready to drown The Thing because Kakuzu tied him up.
W..T...F,i didn't say that.

[Nick Tasogare]

The Battlegrounds: Endlessly debate hypothetical battles between your favorite Naruto characters. Yes, this is where all of those "Blank vs. Blank, who would win?" topics go!

[Nick Tasogare]

W..T...F,i didn't say that.

That's why I didn't say YOU, I said it as a generalization, one of you said it.

[[Shikamaru]]

What's is the point of this? We already decided that you cannot compare naruto to marvel.

[Sock]

hidan litterally is incapable of dying he is undead put it that way his internal organs are just for show his head came off and he just whined about it shika blew him up and he was still talking

[Nine]

The Battlegrounds: Endlessly debate hypothetical battles between your favorite Naruto characters. Yes, this is where all of those "Blank vs. Blank, who would win?" topics go!
I know how to read.

[Nine]

That's why I didn't say YOU, I said it as a generalization, one of you said it.
It was Sock.

[Vivi]

hidan litterally is incapable of dying he is undead put it that way his internal organs are just for show his head came off and he just whined about it shika blew him up and he was still talking

The THing can always throw him into the sun problem solved.

[Nick Tasogare]

;1078728']What's is the point of this? We already decided that you cannot compare naruto to marvel.

No, YOU said, without proof, that they can't be compared, and you basically implied Narutoverse is Hax.

[Nick Tasogare]

The Battlegrounds: Endlessly debate hypothetical battles between your favorite Naruto characters. Yes, this is where all of those "Blank vs. Blank, who would win?" topics go!

Does anyone else get the irony? xD

[Nine]

Guys this is a pointless Debate.It would be diffrent if it was Naruto VS Naruto.

[Sock]

The Battlegrounds: Endlessly debate hypothetical battles between your favorite Naruto characters. Yes, this is where all of those "Blank vs. Blank, who would win?" topics go!
at least that I agree with you on p.s. your trolling to I think youve been here longer then me XP

[Vivi]

Does anyone else get the irony? xD

Yep :lol::lol:

[Nick Tasogare]

at least that I agree with you on p.s. your trolling to I think youve been here longer then me XP

Yea, I've been here debating, you've been here posting things that don't matter for no good reason Me=Not troll

[[Shikamaru]]

No, YOU said, without proof, that they can't be compared, and you basically implied Narutoverse is Hax.
Marvel is super powered, no ninja can fly 200 mph and go super nova. This is a waste of time. Naruto has limits, Marvel on the other hand, does not.

[Nick Tasogare]

;1078747']Marvel is super powered, no ninja can fly 200 mph and go super nova. This is a waste of time.

But it's so fun to prove people wrong, especially when they are so dim, that they don't get how wrong they are, and they piss you off to no end :lol::lol:

[Sock]

lol hidan still being alive wont count as a win if hes unable to defeat a final opponant but the thing throwing him at the sun not sure if he can do that but if he can prolly can marvel is king when it comes to overexagerrating hidan would just hurt alot and burn but doesnt he enjoy that ?

[Vivi]

;1078747']Marvel is super powered, no ninja can fly 200 mph and go super nova. This is a waste of time. Naruto has limits, Marvel on the other hand, does not.

Sasuke,Deidara,Hiruzen and several others are supersonic.So over 800mph.

Kakashi s slow compared to them barely able to go over 200.

[Shkin]

Does anyone else get the irony? xD

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: yeah...:lol:

[[Shikamaru]]

But it's so fun to prove people wrong, especially when they are so dim, that they don't get how wrong they are, and they piss you off to no end :lol::lol:
You have the most posts on a pointless thread, who is the dim witted one? Uhhh?

[Nick Tasogare]

lol hidan still being alive wont count as a win if hes unable to defeat a final opponant but the thing throwing him at the sun not sure if he can do that but if he can prolly can marvel is king when it comes to overexagerrating hidan would just hurt alot and burn but doesnt he enjoy that ?

So then Susan Storm puts herself in a force field, goes up into almost space, and pulses Hidan's face in the direction of the sun, Gravitational Pull will take care of the rest. :lol:

[Nick Tasogare]

;1078762']You have the most posts on a pointless thread, who is the dim witted one? Uhhh?

I'm pretty sure that's because I've been posting here, trying to prove my point. Way to not get the definition of a debate

[[Shikamaru]]

You cannot predict their actions, we only debate to show is the most powerful, not who would win in the end. It's up solely to that person, and whether or not they have a strategy. I simply showed how simple it would be for the Akatsuki to eliminate them.

[Nick Tasogare]

] You cannot predict their actions, we only debate to show is the most powerful, not who would win in the end. It's up solely to that person, and whether or not they have a strategy.

The title needs no introduction. Who wins? The Akatsuki or Mr. Fantastic, the Invisible Woman, the Human Torch, and the Thing from Fantastic Four?

I'm pretty sure the point of this thread to give your opinions on who wins, and why.

[Sock]

lol your me on the other team the only difference is youve got a fan girl ^^ and our jokes are different if you call me a troll your deff a troll but with this i leave to take my opinions elsewhere and debate with others on subjects that will hopefully be resolveable but dont count this as a victiory becuase as a man can die but an idea lives on and i already posted multiple reasons my side would win and maybe if this topic doesnt get deleted or locked from the next group of people who arnt as civilized as us and say a dirty word someone will read it and agree or disagree with a valid point ^^ farewell

[[Shikamaru]]

That's evident, but surely you should realize this is just a bunch of crap? Forums mean nothing, you don't know what will happen in the end. Sasuke survived solely because he had a strategy from the beginning, Deidara didn't. Although most people would of though Sasuke would destroy Deidara just out of pure power. If he didn't have a strategy, he'd be dead. That's key to victory, not constantly debating who's more powerful and what their actions would be on the battle field, you're not him, you don't know how it will turn out.

[Nick Tasogare]

;1078778']That's evident, but surely you should realize this is just a bunch of crap? Forums mean nothing, you don't know what will happen in the end.

Oh definitely, I'm just bored

[Shkin]

its a draw people...^.^ ahahaha (thread killer)

[Vivi]

So we're all at peace again?? ^_^

YAY *Huggles everyone*

[Cyn]

Akatsuki O: With no reason whatsoever Fantastic 4 has no experience with jutsus.
P.S. I like to rage on arguments at times.

[RSAHinataSpringbokF1]

Akatsuki with Tobi leading.
Agreed.

[sasruto]

Atkasuki...

[RSAHinataSpringbokF1]

maybe a draw

[Ragato]

Can anyone tell me if there are more akatsuki siggies there are that i don't have and show em to me lol

[Abigail]

Didn't the Thing lift over 100,000,000 tons before?

Yeah, Fantastic Four stomp so hard it's not funny.

[C. Hook]

So, Human Torch goes supernova, everyone else dies? [/endthread]

Seriously, it does not pay to underestimate Marvel.

[RSAHinataSpringbokF1]

So, Human Torch goes supernova, everyone else dies? [/endthread]

Seriously, it does not pay to underestimate Marvel.
To who?

[TurtleCake]

n-no doubt a-akatsuki

[Abigail]

I hope you don't mean Akatsuki wins.

[RSAHinataSpringbokF1]

n-no doubt a-akatsuki
Agreed that the Akatsuki wins this one.

[Yuuta]

Akatsuki BY FAR.
Invisible woman - Oh, look, Itachi can see you! Force field? Please. You're getting a nosebleed.
Mr. Fantastic - Beaten by just about every akatsuki. His skills are completely ineffective. He may beat Kisame or Hidan...But other than that, Deidara bombs from above, Konan turns to paper and strangles him back, Kakuzu hardens his skin and strangles him back...etc..
Human Torch - Really, completely on fire? Kisame's water style owns him.
The Thing - Rock man. Wow. Deidara shows him what art is, Konan restricts and strangles him, Itachi's genjutsu, etc, etc...

[Abigail]

Akatsuki BY FAR.
Invisible woman - Oh, look, Itachi can see you! Force field? Please. You're getting a nosebleed.
Mr. Fantastic - Beaten by just about every akatsuki. His skills are completely ineffective. He may beat Kisame or Hidan...But other than that, Deidara bombs from above, Konan turns to paper and strangles him back, Kakuzu hardens his skin and strangles him back...etc..
Human Torch - Really, completely on fire? Kisame's water style owns him.
The Thing - Rock man. Wow. Deidara shows him what art is, Konan restricts and strangles him, Itachi's genjutsu, etc, etc...
No.

Invisible Woman makes force fields in their skulls causing them to explode.

Mr. Fantastic pulls out some uber tech he made.

Human Torch incinerates the atmosphere killing everyone on the planet besides his team.

The Thing hit's the Akatsuki with over one hundred million tons of strength.

[RSAHinataSpringbokF1]

No.

Invisible Woman makes force fields in their skulls causing them to explode.

Mr. Fantastic pulls out some uber tech he made.

Human Torch incinerates the atmosphere killing everyone on the planet besides his team.

The Thing hit's the Akatsuki with over one hundred million tons of strength.
That's.......something, is it?

[ECW Original]

This thread should go on the massive fail list.

[Kisame]

FF4 rape, Johny life wipes. GG Akatsuki.

[C. Hook]

To who?

You doubt that the Human Torch can kill them all easily?

Anyways, if he fails, Sue succeeds with her force fields.

[RedSandSasori]

The Akatski the Fantstic 4 would be dead by Itachi alone

[TheAkatsukiClanPM9999]

Akatsuki. Deidara could use his bird and plant a C4 on the Fantastic Four 4.

[Nyruss]

Sue creates a forcefield inside all of Akatsuki's brains and expands it.
Johnny goes Supenova.
Reed and Ben just beat the crap out of them.

There are very few scenarios in which the Fantastic Four could EVER lose to ANYONE in the Narutoverse.

Anyone who claims otherwise is a retard and needs to die a slow painful death.

[J-Sun Tasogare]

The Akatski the Fantstic 4 would be dead by Itachi alone
WANK!!!!X10000 Sue Creates a forcefiled protecting thing and he solos.

[RedSandSasori]

Like i said b4 Itachi culd MS them or use Atsemaru (think i spelled it wrong).
and they wouldnt stand a chance against Pein

[crystalblade13]

where is everyone getting the idea that the fantastic four is so fast. on the MARVEL WIKI it says theyre peak human. i lol at them killing the entire akatsuki. madara can become intangible and suck them into another demention. genjutsu WOULD work because saying no chakra manipulation is like saying no COSMIC POWER manipulation. care to explain how any of the fantastic four would live through c4? and dont say force field because the moment they all go in it pain would chibaku tensai them to death. the human torch is the only big threat.

[Nyruss]

A: The Marvel wikia is hardly the go to source for things like speed or strength, otherwise you'd get bull about Captain America being peak human when he's clearly superhuman in every way or Spider-man only being able to lift ten tons when and only fast enough to catch a car when he routinely surpasses these supposed limits.

B: When you can make peoples heads explode you don't need to be fast.


As I said before, Sue creates a forcefield inside all of Akatsuki's brains and expands it. Johnny goes Supenova, etc.

There's nothing Akatsuki can do to win this fight. The fact that you believe otherwise means you're an inbred lackwit and you would do well to kill yourself to prevent yourself from polluting the gene pool any more than you already have by fornicating with your mother who is also your sister.

[J-Sun Tasogare]

Like i said b4 Itachi culd MS them or use Atsemaru (think i spelled it wrong).
and they wouldnt stand a chance against Pein
Forcefield they don't use energy. Mr Fantastic won't get hurt by sucking him in he can streatch your a wanker. Johnny is hella a lot faster than any Akatsuki members.

[J-Sun Tasogare]

A: The Marvel wikia is hardly the go to source for things like speed or strength, otherwise you'd get bull about Captain America being peak human when he's clearly superhuman in every way or Spider-man only being able to lift ten tons when and only fast enough to catch a car when he routinely surpasses these supposed limits.

B: When you can make peoples heads explode you don't need to be fast.


As I said before, Sue creates a forcefield inside all of Akatsuki's brains and expands it. Johnny goes Supenova, etc.

There's nothing Akatsuki can do to win this fight. The fact that you believe otherwise means you're an inbred lackwit and you would do well to kill yourself to prevent yourself from polluting the gene pool any more than you already have by fornicating with your mother who is also your sister.
Dude that post was soooo evil lol.

[Nyruss]

If it weren't for the censor it would have been much more so

[J-Sun Tasogare]

If it weren't for the censor it would have been much more so
Yes, well I saw Torunes post and yours would still hurt more he needs to take a lessonhttp://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/pictureem0.gif

[garra12345]

NO contest akatsuki big time.

[The 1st Hokage]

Human torch uses supernova.is this enough?

[e710]

You are the only one flaming.Dudemeister is just cool enough to do what he wants.he is also so good he is always right.

thats what got his ass baned. :lol: but i dont have anything against him

[Sasuke]

Akatsuki win hands down because they are way too strong and outnumber them.

[Toph]

Yeah, I agree. Akatsuki is way stronger than fantastic 4. Just Madara can beat all of them.

[Devito Uchiha]

Akatsuki ofc.

No match

10vs4 :S

Torch - Sasori or Kisame
Invisible Woman - Pein or Madara
The big one - Kakuzu , Itachi , Orochimaru
The other one (don't know the name -_-) - Hidan .. Hidan can wound him so easily and take blood

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

Akatsukei easily.
Ksame pwn Human Torch. Human Torch can't do anything to kisame. Kisame can just fill the battlefield with water, and game over.
Itachi can use his sharingan to see invisble woman even though she is invisible.
Diedara would rock The Thing big time. Bombs Vs big rock man?? easily Diedara.
And Mr. Fantasitc, What can he do, that will prevent Sasuke from killing him. Sasuke wants to take his time, so he shoots a great dragon fire ball into the air, Mr. Fantasic thinks he is trying to show off.
1 minute later Sasuke summons Kirin form the sky, Mr.Fantastic knows he's f*****...

[SageoftheSixPaths]

Everyone who said Akatsuki win: no. Absolutely not. Human Torch solos. He flies up to the edge of the atmosphere in seconds and ignites it, thereby killing everyone on the planet, including the Akatsuki. Nobody is going to have time to even see him leave. He'll just be a flaming blur. No Genjutsu. No Susano'o. No Madara warp. No Chibaku Tensei. Nothing. He kills them all in seconds.

For further proof, Mr. Fantastic can also solo. He's hypersonic as well, and he can easily wrap himself around all of the Akatsuki and simply squeeze the life out of all of them before they have time to react.

The Thing is going to be almost completely immune to damage from any of the Akatsuki. Even if he gets caught in C4, his internal organs are harder than rock, meaning he'd be hurt, but not dead from the attack.

Invisible Woman can bend light to create forcefields. She can simply trap the entire opposition in a large scale forcefield and quickly compact it to crush them all with ease.

Everyone is clearly underestimating the F4 here. They're one of the premier powers in the mortal Marvel multiverse, and Marvel is stronger than literally every other verse in fiction combined (minus DC and one or two other verses). Naruto is one of the weakest verses out there. F4 can solo One Piece, Bleach, AND Naruto all at the same time. Saying anything else is absolutely ridiculous.