Tobi .......

[Ero-Senin]

Well I was reading the manga again there is something what cought my attention ...
Chapter 453 where Sasuke and his teammates r heading to Konoha and suddenly Tobi appear in front of them and a few mins after Zetsu appear too with the info that Danzo is the Hokage. After the conversation between Sasuke and Tobi, Sasuke decided to go to kill the kage. When he left the other halfof Zetsu stayed with tobi and tobi said something strange...

Zetsu: That went well.
Tobi: ...No... I can't believe Nagato used his RINNE TENSEI like that. It's supposed to be for me... What a betrayal... Even if Sasuke becomes more powerful than Nagato, if we can't control him, it's no use to us. ... I don't plan to sync him with GEDO MAZO for a while. ... I will just wait and see how it goes...

and after he talks aout Naruto and stuff with Zetsu about a plan called ''Moons's Eye Plan''

What I can't understand is why would Tobi need Rinne Tensei, and how could Sasuke become stonger than Nagato. It's just so misterious. and how can he syncs him with Gedo Mazo, I thought only Nagato can do that. Does somebody know the answer for these questions? and what the hell is he planning it's so annoying me that we dunno too much about him. It's so strange I dunno what he wants he is strong but he hasn't done anything yet. and the stuff about that sasuke stonger than Nagato is just strange how can he possibly ... and why the heck would he need the Rinne Tensei, is he dead or what? well I was just thinking about it for almost a day and it's annoying me do you guys know something about it? please tell =) Thaaaaanks

[Skrall]

Like you i dont have the answers, we will have to wait and see what will happen.

[Nemico]

nice observation i suppose but i dont know why..
we'll just have to wait...

[Fan of Minato]

No one knows currently, I noticed the "Rinne Tensei" part too, but couldn't figure out why he needed that, my best bet is, that he needs it, just in case he dies sometime, because of some reason.

[Ero-Senin]

No one knows currently, I noticed the "Rinne Tensei" part too, but couldn't figure out why he needed that, my best bet is, that he needs it, just in case he dies sometime, because of some reason.

interesting may it be because he has or had a plan where he wants to die or he was worrying because of something what could kill him. And what about the Sasuke part does it make sense to anybody ? =/

[Densetsu_no_D]

Maybe...The Gedo Mazo takes the life of it's user. Thats why Madara needed Pein alive..Also they probably need a strong shinobi like Pein...So they need Sasuke to listen to them or it will be a waste....

[X__Sasuke__X]

i'm not sure what it is...
it hasn't been stated yet.

[Ero-Senin]

Maybe...The Gedo Mazo takes the life of it's user. Thats why Madara needed Pein alive..Also they probably need a strong shinobi like Pein...So they need Sasuke to listen to them or it will be a waste....

Do you think that they need him as a sacrifice to make that jutsu complete or to obtain great powers from the jinchuurikis?

[Densetsu_no_D]

Do you think that they need him as a sacrifice to make that jutsu complete or to obtain great powers from the jinchuurikis?



It's very possible....Madara is going to use Sasuke for his own means...I wouldn't be surprised...

[Ero-Senin]

It's very possible....Madara is going to use Sasuke for his own means...I wouldn't be surprised...

Well you r right and I think the plan what he has got the name 'moon's eye' so it can be that it's because of Sasuke or maybe because of Itachi Uchiha because when Itachi mrdered his clan itwas ta night and he stand in front of the moon with his eyes.so maybe he isplanning something similar if you know what I mean.

[Densetsu_no_D]

Well you r right and I think the plan what he has got the name 'moon's eye' so it can be that it's because of Sasuke or maybe because of Itachi Uchiha because when Itachi mrdered his clan itwas ta night and he stand in front of the moon with his eyes.so maybe he isplanning something similar if you know what I mean.


I just found this info from Narutopedia, As Nagato is now dead, Madara Uchiha claimed that they needed a new pawn to synchronize with the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path, which he intends to have Sasuke Uchiha for, but doesn't plan to do so yet, as Sasuke is proven difficult to manipulate.

Looks like that's exactly what he plans on doing...

[Ero-Senin]

I just found this info from Narutopedia, As Nagato is now dead, Madara Uchiha claimed that they needed a new pawn to synchronize with the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path, which he intends to have Sasuke Uchiha for, but doesn't plan to do so yet, as Sasuke is proven difficult to manipulate.

Looks like that's exactly what he plans on doing...

woow Madara is such a tough guy. Sasuke is so silly to obey him. It's starting to get very interesting. oh by the way I forgot is the meeting a night? I mean the meeting of five kages just because maybe that's why the plan is called the moon's eye plan

[Vivi]

Well I was reading the manga again there is something what cought my attention ...
Chapter 453 where Sasuke and his teammates r heading to Konoha and suddenly Tobi appear in front of them and a few mins after Zetsu appear too with the info that Danzo is the Hokage. After the conversation between Sasuke and Tobi, Sasuke decided to go to kill the kage. When he left the other halfof Zetsu stayed with tobi and tobi said something strange...

Zetsu: That went well.
Tobi: ...No... I can't believe Nagato used his RINNE TENSEI like that. It's supposed to be for me... What a betrayal... Even if Sasuke becomes more powerful than Nagato, if we can't control him, it's no use to us. ... I don't plan to sync him with GEDO MAZO for a while. ... I will just wait and see how it goes...

and after he talks aout Naruto and stuff with Zetsu about a plan called ''Moons's Eye Plan''

What I can't understand is why would Tobi need Rinne Tensei, and how could Sasuke become stonger than Nagato. It's just so misterious. and how can he syncs him with Gedo Mazo, I thought only Nagato can do that. Does somebody know the answer for these questions? and what the hell is he planning it's so annoying me that we dunno too much about him. It's so strange I dunno what he wants he is strong but he hasn't done anything yet. and the stuff about that sasuke stonger than Nagato is just strange how can he possibly ... and why the heck would he need the Rinne Tensei, is he dead or what? well I was just thinking about it for almost a day and it's annoying me do you guys know something about it? please tell =) Thaaaaanks

Kishimoto said one character will turn blind.
What if that is Sasuke and he somehow obtains the Rinnegan to gain his sight back.That way he would be like Nagato.

[Ero-Senin]

Kishimoto said one character will turn blind.
What if that is Sasuke and he somehow obtains the Rinnegan to gain his sight back.That way he would be like Nagato.

you might be right O.o but Icouldn't imagine Sasuke with rinegan >.< he would look strange but there is something in this theory.

[Hebi]

*waits to see more chapters*

[Chromekatana]

Kishimoto said one character will turn blind.
What if that is Sasuke and he somehow obtains the Rinnegan to gain his sight back.That way he would be like Nagato.


I'm sorry but that makes me laugh.:lol:

[Ero-Senin]

I'm sorry but that makes me laugh.:lol:

XD laugh !!! xD

[Ero-Senin]

lol but the only thing we can do is just wait T_T

[NarutoBankai]

Well I was reading the manga again there is something what cought my attention ...
Chapter 453 where Sasuke and his teammates r heading to Konoha and suddenly Tobi appear in front of them and a few mins after Zetsu appear too with the info that Danzo is the Hokage. After the conversation between Sasuke and Tobi, Sasuke decided to go to kill the kage. When he left the other halfof Zetsu stayed with tobi and tobi said something strange...

Zetsu: That went well.
Tobi: ...No... I can't believe Nagato used his RINNE TENSEI like that. It's supposed to be for me... What a betrayal... Even if Sasuke becomes more powerful than Nagato, if we can't control him, it's no use to us. ... I don't plan to sync him with GEDO MAZO for a while. ... I will just wait and see how it goes...

and after he talks aout Naruto and stuff with Zetsu about a plan called ''Moons's Eye Plan''

What I can't understand is why would Tobi need Rinne Tensei, and how could Sasuke become stonger than Nagato. It's just so misterious. and how can he syncs him with Gedo Mazo, I thought only Nagato can do that. Does somebody know the answer for these questions? and what the hell is he planning it's so annoying me that we dunno too much about him. It's so strange I dunno what he wants he is strong but he hasn't done anything yet. and the stuff about that sasuke stonger than Nagato is just strange how can he possibly ... and why the heck would he need the Rinne Tensei, is he dead or what? well I was just thinking about it for almost a day and it's annoying me do you guys know something about it? please tell =) Thaaaaanks


I'd say that He'd want to gain some strange power my collecting the "Monsters" From all of the of the Jinkchurii and use it to take over the world but It's just a guess.

[Ero-Senin]

I'd say that He'd want to gain some strange power my collecting the "Monsters" From all of the of the Jinkchurii and use it to take over the world but It's just a guess.


Oh yeah I totaly forgot about the Jinchuurikies you might be right they definately play a role in his plan

[valtreck]

Tobi might be testing Sasuke's power by sending him in the meeting. But he is still finding a way to manipulate Sasuke.

[Ero-Senin]

I think he is very clever he knows what he is doing ... I hope we will see soon his intentions =D

[J-Sun Tasogare]

i think that the tenra tensi or whatever nagato used was supposed to be for madara to kill him so that nagato makes madara his new body and he gets the rinnegan and his ems and the power of the tailed beast then he is ome ultima maybe he needs sasuke to get a hugly powerful move enough to kill madara for that can happen didnt that tensi thing have something to do with the moon or was that gravity??

[Densetsu_no_D]

Something is definitely going to happen on the night of the full moon. I had put this up in another post, that the both times the Kyuubi attacked Konoha it was a full moon. Maybe thats when Madara can use his EMS, or at least at full power. Also like you stated Ero-Senin the night the Uchiha Clan was massacred was a full moon. So I believe that maybe the source of his power....

[rose93]

sry no answer for that.........
Im just going to read everyones answer.

[mangagirl]

nice observation i suppose but i dont know why..
we'll just have to wait...
i agree

[Ero-Senin]

Something is definitely going to happen on the night of the full moon. I had put this up in another post, that the both times the Kyuubi attacked Konoha it was a full moon. Maybe thats when Madara can use his EMS, or at least at full power. Also like you stated Ero-Senin the night the Uchiha Clan was massacred was a full moon. So I believe that maybe the source of his power....

yush yush That's very clever and I am sure that the moon has something to do with it or it's just the time when the plan has to start. and all these occasions what happened in the past related with Madara was during full moon. He might had lost some of his powers during those years so he needs to get them back.

[Densetsu_no_D]

yush yush That's very clever and I am sure that the moon has something to do with it or it's just the time when the plan has to start. and all these occasions what happened in the past related with Madara was during full moon. He might had lost some of his powers during those years so he needs to get them back.


I definitely agree with you that he lost some of his powers over the years, I'm sure this is a way to get them back....and the bijuu could be the source of it...

[deidara rules]

has eny one else nodised that the night of the kyuubi attack and the night madara and the kyuubi fought the 1st hokage it was a full moon. every time madara cotroles the kyuubi it seem's to be a full moon and now hes talking about the "moon's eyes". :shock:


(might not be related but the night itachi and madara killed the uchiha clan it was a full moon then to)

[deidara rules]

aww man they beat me to it oh well i should have read all the posts first :roll:

[deidara rules]

maby madara's Eternal Mangekyu Sharingan needs the full moon to control the kyuubi and the moon's eye's is another stage of the sharingan that will allow him to control the kyuubi when ever he wants?

[Ero-Senin]

maby madara's Eternal Mangekyu Sharingan needs the full moon to control the kyuubi and the moon's eye's is another stage of the sharingan that will allow him to control the kyuubi when ever he wants?


It might be true, well if Madara really wantsto gain power he definately wants something o do with the kyuubis. And the moon is the part of his plan.