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sasorilover
08-08-2009, 05:48 PM
Deidara vs Kakuzu, a bomb weilding maniac vs a multi-heart terror. We have seen the many bombs and we have seen the tendriles that hold Kakuzu together, but what would happen if they went against eachother?

Vivi
08-08-2009, 05:50 PM
Deidara vs Kakuzu, a bomb weilding maniac vs a multi-heart terror. We have seen the many bombs and we have seen the tendriles that hold Kakuzu together, but what would happen if they went against eachother?

Deidara's clay is earth elemental so Kakuzu can easily use False Darkness to disable it.Then strike with his Hearts.

Kuromaki
08-08-2009, 05:54 PM
I think Kakuzu would win with his elemental Jutsus, especially False Darkness.

Cytrys
08-08-2009, 05:56 PM
:| um I think Diedara would win with his Ultimate attack because there is no disabling his ultimate attack

Space Cowboy Sasori
08-08-2009, 05:58 PM
Kakuzu can tank most of Deidara's bombs with his Iron Skin, and if that doesn't work, his Lightning Heart disables Deidara's bombs.

:| um I think Diedara would win with his Ultimate attack because there is no disabling his ultimate attack

The one where he blows himself up? That kills him before the opponent pretty much making his opponent win because he deidara dies first.

Vivi
08-08-2009, 06:00 PM
:| um I think Diedara would win with his Ultimate attack because there is no disabling his ultimate attack

That would be a tie not a win for Deidara.
Last Man standing Kakuzu wins as well.
Deidara cant win this one.

Cytrys
08-08-2009, 06:02 PM
okay fine I will fix that Diedara loses Kazuku wins and after the battle Kazuku has a life span of .001 seconds before he is blown up :|

Kuromaki
08-08-2009, 06:03 PM
okay fine I will fix that Diedara loses Kazuku wins and after the battle Kazuku has a life span of .001 seconds before he is blown up :|
Kakuzu still wins.

tanduhman
08-08-2009, 06:08 PM
Even if he did that wouldnt iron skin keep kakuzu alive? so basically kakuzu wins and survives for a while.

Zeru
08-08-2009, 06:09 PM
7/10 kakuzu wins with his abnormal body...*shivers*

Fan of Minato
08-08-2009, 06:26 PM
Have to say Kakuzu, because of his elemental combinations, he can win, Deidara's bombs wouldn't really affect him much.

Avenger
08-08-2009, 07:39 PM
Probably Kakuzu. Iron Skin tanks bombs, and his elemental attacks should be able to reach him. Plus, Lightning>Earth, and it makes the bombs undetonatable.

Sasori12
08-08-2009, 07:41 PM
Kakuzu wins because of his lightning heart, and Iron Skin.

Sasori12
08-08-2009, 07:42 PM
:| um I think Diedara would win with his Ultimate attack because there is no disabling his ultimate attack
I'm just curious? could the Iron Skin protect him from that?

Kuromaki
08-08-2009, 08:18 PM
I'm just curious? could the Iron Skin protect him from that?
Doesn't matter, if Deidei uses C0 then Kakuzu would still win because Deidei would die first.

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 08:40 PM
i... liiteraly... cant... beleve... people.... think... kakazu... would... win...
how do we even know kakazu knows how to disable the bombs?

Space Cowboy Sasori
08-08-2009, 08:41 PM
His Iron Skin can tank most of his bombs still.

Avenger
08-08-2009, 08:43 PM
i... liiteraly... cant... beleve... people.... think... kakazu... would... win...
how do we even know kakazu knows how to disable the bombs?
Sasuke disabled it with lightning, and Kakuzu has lightning. So why can't he disble it?

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 08:47 PM
Sasuke disabled it with lightning, and Kakuzu has lightning. So why can't he disble it?

kakazu dosint even know how to disable it plus he isnt able to serg lightining through his body like sasukes chidori current can do. kakazu was hit by his own lighting attake and it hurt him!!!!!!!

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 08:48 PM
kakazu cant even reach deidara becouse we all obviously know that kakazu it short range type and deidara is long range type shore the hearts can fly but not even fast or high (except the air heart)

Vivi
08-08-2009, 08:48 PM
i... liiteraly... cant... beleve... people.... think... kakazu... would... win...
how do we even know kakazu knows how to disable the bombs?

Chakra elements are common knowledge for every Ninja.
Also he is about 90.So he should have a lot of experience as well.

Face it.Kakuzu>Deidara in every way.He cant win.Maximum is tie.

Vivi
08-08-2009, 08:50 PM
kakazu dosint even know how to disable it plus he isnt able to serg lightining through his body like sasukes chidori current can do. kakazu was hit by his own lighting attake and it hurt him!!!!!!!

But he has False Darkness a lightning element Jutsu which btw is an all ranged jutsu so not short-middle-long but all.

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 08:54 PM
Chakra elements are common knowledge for every Ninja.
Also he is about 90.So he should have a lot of experience as well.

Face it.Kakuzu>Deidara in every way.He cant win.Maximum is tie.

even if he figures it out he wouldint be able to disarme C4 without hirting himself and there is zero prisent posabilaty that kakazu would be able to figure out what C4 dose!!!!!!!!!!!!! to disarme it eny way, with the risk of taking out at least one of his own hearts

Avenger
08-08-2009, 08:57 PM
even if he figures it out he wouldint be able to disarme C4 without hirting himself and there is zero prisent posabilaty that kakazu would be able to figure out what C4 dose!!!!!!!!!!!!! to disarme it eny way, with the risk of taking out at least one of his own hearts
Wow, if it takes out one of his hearts, it's no big deal. He has 4 more... It doesnt matter if he doesnt know what it does, he would figure out it is earth and use lightning on it.

Vivi
08-08-2009, 08:59 PM
even if he figures it out he wouldint be able to disarme C4 without hirting himself and there is zero prisent posabilaty that kakazu would be able to figure out what C4 dose!!!!!!!!!!!!! to disarme it eny way, with the risk of taking out at least one of his own hearts

Kakuzu is an extremely keen analyst he would notice something wrong.He pretty much outsmarted Shikamaru by countering his shadows instantaneously in battle so he can do this as well.

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 09:01 PM
But he has False Darkness a lightning element Jutsu which btw is an all ranged jutsu so not short-middle-long but all.

that still dosnt mean it can take down C4 (which it cant) plus that lightining jutsu or eny other of the lightining jutsus that we saw or he has has the acuracy to catch one of the 4 winged birds and if you think the lightining dose than your saying that his lighining jutsu is way faster than eny of garras sand jutsu which you should be smart enogh to know its not!!!

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 09:05 PM
Wow, if it takes out one of his hearts, it's no big deal. He has 4 more... It doesnt matter if he doesnt know what it does, he would figure out it is earth and use lightning on it.

you didnt even read the own thing you just quoted you fool why dont you read it a couple more times and maby you can figure it out.

Fan of Minato
08-08-2009, 09:05 PM
Hmm, well not really familiar with Deidara's jutsu, but I think C4 can eat him as well, if he stays in the range that is.
Just thought I would bring that up, since we are talking about C4.

Vivi
08-08-2009, 09:05 PM
that still dosnt mean it can take down C4 (which it cant) plus that lightining jutsu or eny other of the lightining jutsus that we saw or he has has the acuracy to catch one of the 4 winged birds and if you think the lightining dose than your saying that his lighining jutsu is way faster than eny of garras sand jutsu which you should be smart enogh to know its not!!!

It actually can.
False Darkness can split apart easily.
If a C1 bird comes at him he can use Iron Skin which is can defend him from the birds.
Another thing C4 cant enter him.He has that thing on his mouth an dnose and all his other holes are blocked off.

ベーゼル
08-08-2009, 09:07 PM
kakuza would probably win.

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 09:08 PM
Kakuzu is an extremely keen analyst he would notice something wrong.He pretty much outsmarted Shikamaru by countering his shadows instantaneously in battle so he can do this as well.

no he wouldint, exsplain to me how you think he would figure it out dont just say hes smart that dosnt prove eny thing.

Fan of Minato
08-08-2009, 09:09 PM
no he wouldint, exsplain to me how you think he would figure it out dont just say hes smart that dosnt prove eny thing.

um, if this is about C4, please answer my question above, that I asked,
I asked,
"Would C4 get Deidara as well, because Deidara would be in range too, wouldn't he".

Avenger
08-08-2009, 09:09 PM
Deidara, We've all explained why Kakuzu wins. Now tell me why you think Deidara wins.

sasorilover
08-08-2009, 09:13 PM
Iron skin wouldnt help from then explosions. Sure he wouldnt get blown to bits, but he would still feel the heat and pressure. I would still couse significant pain, at least enough to open him up fot a finishing blow. The winner has yet to be decided, keep up the posting.

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 09:13 PM
It actually can.
False Darkness can split apart easily.
If a C1 bird comes at him he can use Iron Skin which is can defend him from the birds.
Another thing C4 cant enter him.He has that thing on his mouth an dnose and all his other holes are blocked off.


that mask on his mouth isnt enough to block C4 :|.

plus were did you get this info on kakuzus lightining jutsu?

and his iron skin can easly be broken by a C2 or just simply two C1's

Vivi
08-08-2009, 09:14 PM
no he wouldint, exsplain to me how you think he would figure it out dont just say hes smart that dosnt prove eny thing.

Firstly:
How does the C4 wanna enter Kakuzu's body?
His mouth and nose are blocked.
His butt as well.
And they cant enter through his eyes.

Secondly:
Kakuzu knows its an clay explosive cause Deidara made it.He would immediately send a lightning attack so the big C4 thingy wouldnt even turn into these bugs at all.

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 09:14 PM
um, if this is about C4, please answer my question above, that I asked,
I asked,
"Would C4 get Deidara as well, because Deidara would be in range too, wouldn't he".

C4 would not hit deidara.

Vivi
08-08-2009, 09:15 PM
that mask on his mouth isnt enough to block C4 :|.

plus were did you get this info on kakuzus lightining jutsu?

and his iron skin can easly be broken by a C2 or just simply two C1's

How do you know its not?

Looked it up.

Iron skin is strong enough to withstand both possibly even a C3.

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 09:19 PM
Firstly:
How does the C4 wanna enter Kakuzu's body?
His mouth and nose are blocked.
His butt as well.
And they cant enter through his eyes.

Secondly:
Kakuzu knows its an clay explosive cause Deidara made it.He would immediately send a lightning attack so the big C4 thingy wouldnt even turn into these bugs at all.

kakazu dosnt have a lightining jutsu near strong enough to disarme the C4

oh and the tiny tiny little bugs are easly inhailed throgh a mask

and kakazu still wouldnt be able to figure out what C4 dose befor it decintigrates him.

Fan of Minato
08-08-2009, 09:21 PM
kakazu dosnt have a lightining jutsu near strong enough to disarme the C4

oh and the tiny tiny little bugs are easly inhailed throgh a mask

and kakazu still wouldnt be able to figure out what C4 dose befor it decintigrates him.

C4 has a weakness too, pretty sure Kakuzu can find it,
I can think of one,
prep time, Kakuzu is fast enough to hit deidara before C4 is made.

Avenger
08-08-2009, 09:22 PM
And how does Deidara survive Kakuzu's Fire/Wind combo?

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 09:22 PM
How do you know its not?

Looked it up.

Iron skin is strong enough to withstand both possibly even a C3.

i just exsplained that

where?

thats literaly the most ideotic thing ive ever heard -_-"

Vivi
08-08-2009, 09:23 PM
C4 has a weakness too, pretty sure Kakuzu can find it,
I can think of one,
prep time, Kakuzu is fast enough to hit deidara before C4 is made.

Exactly.C4 requires some time to be made.Thats where he can easily strike.

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 09:24 PM
And how does Deidara survive Kakuzu's Fire/Wind combo?

kakazus fire wind combo woulnt be able to reach deidara plus it wouldent be that hard:|.

Fan of Minato
08-08-2009, 09:25 PM
kakazus fire wind combo woulnt be able to reach deidara plus it wouldent be that hard:|.

--_--", yes it would be hard to dodge it, Kakuzu's elemental compositions, are hard to doge.

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 09:27 PM
Exactly.C4 requires some time to be made.Thats where he can easily strike.

kakazu wouldnt be able to reach deidara to hit him duh.

and it dosnt even take that long
and if so why didnt sasuke try to stop him
answer: he didnt know what it would do!!! till he saw it with his sharingan

Avenger
08-08-2009, 09:28 PM
kakazus fire wind combo woulnt be able to reach deidara plus it wouldent be that hard:|.
It would kill him.

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 09:28 PM
--_--", yes it would be hard to dodge it, Kakuzu's elemental compositions, are hard to doge.

okkkkkk.... that still dosnt say how it would reach deidara :|

Avenger
08-08-2009, 09:29 PM
kakazu wouldnt be able to reach deidara to hit him duh.


Fail, there's a thing called shooting attacks up to the sky.

Vivi
08-08-2009, 09:29 PM
kakazu wouldnt be able to reach deidara to hit him duh.

and it dosnt even take that long
and if so why didnt sasuke try to stop him
answer: he didnt know what it would do!!! till he saw it with his sharingan

Cause he was gobsmacked by the size of it.
Kakuzu wouldnt impressed he would laugh about it.

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 09:29 PM
it would kill him.

it wouldnt reach him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vivi
08-08-2009, 09:31 PM
Wrong.His fire Jutsu is of all ranges as well same with the wind.

Fan of Minato
08-08-2009, 09:32 PM
yes, yes, It can, wind and fire combined, can increase the fire's range exponentially, and Kakuzu, using two high level wind and fire tech can most definitely reach him.

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 09:32 PM
fail, there's a thing called shooting attacks up to the sky.


fail. Theres a thing caled manuvering or 3 miles high in the sky!!!!

Vivi
08-08-2009, 09:32 PM
i just exsplained that

where?

thats literaly the most ideotic thing ive ever heard -_-"

Where I found it?Internet.:mrgreen:

Avenger
08-08-2009, 09:33 PM
fail. Theres a thing caled manuvering or 3 miles high in the sky!!!!
Fail, if he flew that high, Kakuzu would see the bombs and dodge all of them.

Vivi
08-08-2009, 09:34 PM
fail. Theres a thing caled manuvering or 3 miles high in the sky!!!!

3 Miles in the sky?LMAO do you know how hard it is to breathe there?

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 09:35 PM
can some one plz tell me why c4 wouldnt be able to kill kakuzu besides the other reasons you already sujested and i proved wrong.

Fan of Minato
08-08-2009, 09:36 PM
can some one plz tell me why c4 wouldnt be able to kill kakuzu besides the other reasons you already sujested and i proved wrong.

We already did, provided two or more counters,
here's one, that I stated,
"prep time", Deidara needs time to make C4, so, that time would be all that Kakuzu needs.

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 09:37 PM
fail, if he flew that high, kakuzu would see the bombs and dodge all of them.

fail, deidaras bombs can camoflodge with the sky and are to small for the human eye to nodise that far away.

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 09:38 PM
we already did, provided two or more counters,
here's one, that i stated,
"prep time", deidara needs time to make c4, so, that time would be all that kakuzu needs.

i alredy answerd that one too. Go find it couse i alredy replied to that.

Vivi
08-08-2009, 09:38 PM
fail, deidaras bombs can camoflodge with the sky and are to small for the human eye to nodise that far away.

Since when can they camouflage?
Well yeah Deidara cant see Kakuzu from up there either with that distance.
Kakuzu would be smaller than a ant.

Cytrys
08-08-2009, 09:39 PM
hmm looks like deidara is still up for runnings xD I forgot he can fly :shock: how could I forget I mean he did pwn Gaara in the air and basically flies the whole time -_- but one thing I see as a problem Kakuzu as we know has no ability to run electricity through himself and Kakuzu's iron skin will not protect him from airborn stuff. unfortunately Kakuzu cannot simply blow or disarm every or most of the ITTY BITTY TEENSY WEENSY bombs. hmmm how will Kakuzu beat the Garuda. I like Kakuzu and all short range vs long range rarely bodes well against the short range. such as Neji vs Kidomaru which was a super close match... I still think Deidara can win.

Vivi
08-08-2009, 09:39 PM
i alredy answerd that one too. Go find it couse i alredy replied to that.

And I gave an answer to that as well.

Vivi
08-08-2009, 09:40 PM
hmm looks like deidara is still up for runnings xD I forgot he can fly :shock: how could I forget I mean he did pwn Gaara in the air and basically flies the whole time -_- but one thing I see as a problem Kakuzu as we know has no ability to run electricity through himself and Kakuzu's iron skin will not protect him from airborn stuff. unfortunately Kakuzu cannot simply blow or disarm every or most of the ITTY BITTY TEENSY WEENSY bombs. hmmm how will Kakuzu beat the Garuda. I like Kakuzu and all short range vs long range rarely bodes well against the short range. such as Neji vs Kidomaru which was a super close match... I still think Deidara can win.

Kakuzu=All ranged.

Fan of Minato
08-08-2009, 09:40 PM
oh, and also, Deidara doesn't rise up to "three miles" in just a millie-second, it takes him time, so as I stated, giving Kakuzu that time, would finish Deidara off.

team taka
08-08-2009, 09:41 PM
hmmm why would they fight each other in the first place? they're both from the akatsuki

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 09:41 PM
since when can they camouflage?
Well yeah deidara cant see kakuzu from up there either with that distance.
Kakuzu would be smaller than a ant.

thats why deidara has a robotic eye patch couse hes always so high
and its not that hard for a small white bird to not be seen a mile in the sky.

Vivi
08-08-2009, 09:42 PM
oh, and also, Deidara doesn't rise up to "three miles" in just a millie-second, it takes him time, so as I stated, giving Kakuzu that time, would finish Deidara off.

Heres more about the 3 miles:
He Can NOT see Kakuzu from there.
People cant breathe in such height unless being experienced such as hikers.
Deidara would need time to fly up there.

Cytrys
08-08-2009, 09:42 PM
kk I have one question for kakuzu siders. if this fire attack is all that why is Kakashi not dead? I mean Kakuzu used it before but the final time was intercepted by Naruto and Yamato

Fan of Minato
08-08-2009, 09:43 PM
thats why deidara has a robotic eye patch couse hes always so high
and its not that hard for a small white bird to not be seen a mile in the sky.

C1, won't work on Kakuzu, when it gets near all he needs to use is one of his threads, to pin that C1, when it gets near, and also Wind release:pressure damage, could just take care of Deidara, its too fast.

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 09:43 PM
hmm.......... am i the only one fighting for deidara?

Vivi
08-08-2009, 09:44 PM
thats why deidara has a robotic eye patch couse hes always so high
and its not that hard for a small white bird to not be seen a mile in the sky.

His eye patch was only used for long ranged observations.
If Kakuzu runs fast enough Deidara can lose track of him.
Ever looked through a sniper rifle scope?Its well easy to lose your target if it moves fast enough.

team taka
08-08-2009, 09:45 PM
well i have to say kakuzu could very well switch to long range threads...you saw his long range preparations when battling naruto

Vivi
08-08-2009, 09:46 PM
kk I have one question for kakuzu siders. if this fire attack is all that why is Kakashi not dead? I mean Kakuzu used it before but the final time was intercepted by Naruto and Yamato

Hey Im a Deidara fangirl but I know he cant beat Kakuzu.

Plot no Jutsu.

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 09:47 PM
hmm... im wasting my time here no point trying to reason 10 to 1

team taka
08-08-2009, 09:47 PM
its as everyone said deidara has no chance against kakuzu

Fan of Minato
08-08-2009, 09:47 PM
kk I have one question for kakuzu siders. if this fire attack is all that why is Kakashi not dead? I mean Kakuzu used it before but the final time was intercepted by Naruto and Yamato

If you are asking how did Kakashi dodge before Yamato and Naruto came, its Water encampment wall, if can soften the impact, or hold it or slow it down, giving him enough time to run.

Cytrys
08-08-2009, 09:48 PM
lol I am here too for deidara xD

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 09:49 PM
point is they wouldnt be fighting in the first place -_- so this argument is a little pointless and i still know deidara would win but you should beleve what you want ^_^

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 09:50 PM
lol I am here too for deidara xD

thx :D

team taka
08-08-2009, 09:50 PM
i repeat: deidara has no chance

Vivi
08-08-2009, 09:51 PM
point is they wouldnt be fighting in the first place -_- so this argument is a little pointless and i still know deidara would win but you should beleve what you want ^_^

kakuzu would win cause fangirl jutsu wont work on him --.--

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 09:52 PM
i repeat: deidara has no chance

allright enough of your repeating i dont care!!! -_-*

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 09:56 PM
bye every one it was a nice debate sorry if i was a little mean in some of my posts. ^_^

Vivi
08-08-2009, 10:00 PM
bye every one it was a nice debate sorry if i was a little mean in some of my posts. ^_^

a little :cry::cry:
*Uses pillow as tissue*

Cytrys
08-08-2009, 10:11 PM
xD i must say the fire attacks are nil do to they really have no affect. not only is he high... and lets say he is reach. he is high enough. obviously he is riding on C2 which is able to spit out smaller portions much faster so the fire is pointless. C4 takes time I admit that. however if you are riding on C2 that is spitting C1 and C2 from the Dragon or bird which ever he happens to ride. if Kakuzu does not disarm what is coming at him he will die... not only that but Deidara is high above giving him time to dodge an attack. he is not slow either >_> or Gaara would still have his Bijou. Also that gives him time for C4... C3 is not wise as Kakuzu can disarm it. ... he cannot send any of his hearts with their o But the Iron skin you say. he cannot actually move while he is hardened. only harden while not moving. The punching of the building came from a fully extended punch and then hardening for the pure destruction. so Kakuzu cannot actually move. Did any of us see him moving around all hardened? the answer is no. Kakuzu does have the range with his thread BUT they are to slow. i am sorry as lame as it sounds Deidara wins he has all the time in the world. C4 followed by ART IS A BLAST. I had to watch like freaking 5 eps to confirm the hardening. and see the other crap he does. Fire is not enough lightning he needs to worry about the bombs over head if he manges to get one off I doubt he will hit deidara considering it is not all that fast :| Deidara wins

Kuromaki
08-08-2009, 10:14 PM
xD i must say the fire attacks are nil do to they really have no affect. not only is he high... and lets say he is reach. he is high enough. obviously he is riding on C2 which is able to spit out smaller portions much faster so the fire is pointless. C4 takes time I admit that. however if you are riding on C2 that is spitting C1 and C2 from the Dragon or bird which ever he happens to ride. if Kakuzu does not disarm what is coming at him he will die... not only that but Deidara is high above giving him time to dodge an attack. he is not slow either >_> or Gaara would still have his Bijou. Also that gives him time for C4... C3 is not wise as Kakuzu can disarm it. ... he cannot send any of his hearts with their o But the Iron skin you say. he cannot actually move while he is hardened. only harden while not moving. The punching of the building came from a fully extended punch and then hardening for the pure destruction. so Kakuzu cannot actually move. Did any of us see him moving around all hardened? the answer is no. Kakuzu does have the range with his thread BUT they are to slow. i am sorry as lame as it sounds Deidara wins he has all the time in the world. C4 followed by ART IS A BLAST. I had to watch like freaking 5 eps to confirm the hardening. and see the other crap he does. Fire is not enough lightning he needs to worry about the bombs over head if he manges to get one off I doubt he will hit deidara considering it is not all that fast :| Deidara wins
....Have you read ANYTHING in the past debate?

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 10:16 PM
xD i must say the fire attacks are nil do to they really have no affect. not only is he high... and lets say he is reach. he is high enough. obviously he is riding on C2 which is able to spit out smaller portions much faster so the fire is pointless. C4 takes time I admit that. however if you are riding on C2 that is spitting C1 and C2 from the Dragon or bird which ever he happens to ride. if Kakuzu does not disarm what is coming at him he will die... not only that but Deidara is high above giving him time to dodge an attack. he is not slow either >_> or Gaara would still have his Bijou. Also that gives him time for C4... C3 is not wise as Kakuzu can disarm it. ... he cannot send any of his hearts with their o But the Iron skin you say. he cannot actually move while he is hardened. only harden while not moving. The punching of the building came from a fully extended punch and then hardening for the pure destruction. so Kakuzu cannot actually move. Did any of us see him moving around all hardened? the answer is no. Kakuzu does have the range with his thread BUT they are to slow. i am sorry as lame as it sounds Deidara wins he has all the time in the world. C4 followed by ART IS A BLAST. I had to watch like freaking 5 eps to confirm the hardening. and see the other crap he does. Fire is not enough lightning he needs to worry about the bombs over head if he manges to get one off I doubt he will hit deidara considering it is not all that fast :| Deidara wins

right on!!! :mrgreen:

Vivi
08-08-2009, 10:17 PM
xD i must say the fire attacks are nil do to they really have no affect. not only is he high... and lets say he is reach. he is high enough. obviously he is riding on C2 which is able to spit out smaller portions much faster so the fire is pointless. C4 takes time I admit that. however if you are riding on C2 that is spitting C1 and C2 from the Dragon or bird which ever he happens to ride. if Kakuzu does not disarm what is coming at him he will die... not only that but Deidara is high above giving him time to dodge an attack. he is not slow either >_> or Gaara would still have his Bijou. Also that gives him time for C4... C3 is not wise as Kakuzu can disarm it. ... he cannot send any of his hearts with their o But the Iron skin you say. he cannot actually move while he is hardened. only harden while not moving. The punching of the building came from a fully extended punch and then hardening for the pure destruction. so Kakuzu cannot actually move. Did any of us see him moving around all hardened? the answer is no. Kakuzu does have the range with his thread BUT they are to slow. i am sorry as lame as it sounds Deidara wins he has all the time in the world. C4 followed by ART IS A BLAST. I had to watch like freaking 5 eps to confirm the hardening. and see the other crap he does. Fire is not enough lightning he needs to worry about the bombs over head if he manges to get one off I doubt he will hit deidara considering it is not all that fast :| Deidara wins

*sigh* use False darkness on the dragon which is an all-range jutsu that annihilates the Dragon and his clay figures.
If C1 show up he can use Pressure Damage which also is all ranged and shreds and crushes everything in its path.

Cytrys
08-08-2009, 10:17 PM
yes i have. that is why I was using some of the main factors that were brought up and based on Deidaras adn kakuzu's fighting styles and known abilities

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 10:17 PM
....Have you read ANYTHING in the past debate?

pfft... i was in... that debate

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 10:19 PM
yes i have. that is why I was using some of the main factors that were brought up and based on Deidaras adn kakuzu's fighting styles and known abilities

fight for what you beleve in Cytrys!!!!! :mrgreen: im cheering you on.

Kuromaki
08-08-2009, 10:19 PM
pfft... i was in... that debate
Yes, I saw you were.

Cytrys
08-08-2009, 10:20 PM
kk xD at this point I am calling it stale mate :| obviously it not going anywhere ... lets say it is a tie because hidan comes in and bites them to death how does that sound... sounds great. I just see no means for anyone from here to have to keep going on. or heck they both collapse because they do not have infinite chakra and clay :| then hidan comes in and kills them :mrgreen:

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 10:21 PM
Yes, I saw you were.

just a note, im not in this degate im just watching ^_^

deidara rules
08-08-2009, 10:24 PM
kk xD at this point I am calling it stale mate :| obviously it not going anywhere ... lets say it is a tie because hidan comes in and bites them to death how does that sound... sounds great. I just see no means for anyone from here to have to keep going on. or heck they both collapse because they do not have infinite chakra and clay :| then hidan comes in and kills them :mrgreen:

O_O" hmm... ok thats another way to put it. :mrgreen:
yay Cytrys

Sasori12
08-09-2009, 12:43 AM
kakazu cant even reach deidara becouse we all obviously know that kakazu it short range type and deidara is long range type shore the hearts can fly but not even fast or high (except the air heart)
I would like to say that Kakuzu has shown some long ranged abilities. His hearts give him powerful long range abilities. But if he couldn't disable the clay I doubt he could win but... he can.

sasorilover
08-09-2009, 01:53 AM
xD i must say the fire attacks are nil do to they really have no affect. not only is he high... and lets say he is reach. he is high enough. obviously he is riding on C2 which is able to spit out smaller portions much faster so the fire is pointless. C4 takes time I admit that. however if you are riding on C2 that is spitting C1 and C2 from the Dragon or bird which ever he happens to ride. if Kakuzu does not disarm what is coming at him he will die... not only that but Deidara is high above giving him time to dodge an attack. he is not slow either >_> or Gaara would still have his Bijou. Also that gives him time for C4... C3 is not wise as Kakuzu can disarm it. ... he cannot send any of his hearts with their o But the Iron skin you say. he cannot actually move while he is hardened. only harden while not moving. The punching of the building came from a fully extended punch and then hardening for the pure destruction. so Kakuzu cannot actually move. Did any of us see him moving around all hardened? the answer is no. Kakuzu does have the range with his thread BUT they are to slow. i am sorry as lame as it sounds Deidara wins he has all the time in the world. C4 followed by ART IS A BLAST. I had to watch like freaking 5 eps to confirm the hardening. and see the other crap he does. Fire is not enough lightning he needs to worry about the bombs over head if he manges to get one off I doubt he will hit deidara considering it is not all that fast :| Deidara wins

you did your research, i think we have a winner =D

Vivi
08-09-2009, 02:30 AM
you did your research, i think we have a winner =D

Nope not at all.
I just looked it up.
Deidara needs to prepare his dragon first before he can actually fly it.
As I know him he probably sends a few C1 birds then.
However these birds have another weakness except Lightning>Earth and that is Fire/Heat>Clay.
Fire/Heat causes Clay to harden up in other words if he sends C1's the fire would turn them hard in other words they wouldnt be able to move their wings and would just fall down.
Since Heat isnt physical it doest need to hit just needs to get close to it and they would harden up.Once they did the Fire Mask uses his Fire Jutsu onto Deidara.Since this move is all ranged the heat should stop the Dragon from flying.(Hardens up so it cannot fly).
If Deidara uses his figures the fire one does the same to harden them which causes them to fall like a stone.
Since the dragon still cannot fly Lightning or wind can srike him with ease.

deidara rules
08-09-2009, 03:08 AM
.....................deidara stomps.....
*runs out door real fast*

sasorilover
08-09-2009, 03:11 AM
Nope not at all.
I just looked it up.
Deidara needs to prepare his dragon first before he can actually fly it.
As I know him he probably sends a few C1 birds then.
However these birds have another weakness except Lightning>Earth and that is Fire/Heat>Clay.
Fire/Heat causes Clay to harden up in other words if he sends C1's the fire would turn them hard in other words they wouldnt be able to move their wings and would just fall down.
Since Heat isnt physical it doest need to hit just needs to get close to it and they would harden up.Once they did the Fire Mask uses his Fire Jutsu onto Deidara.Since this move is all ranged the heat should stop the Dragon from flying.(Hardens up so it cannot fly).
If Deidara uses his figures the fire one does the same to harden them which causes them to fall like a stone.
Since the dragon still cannot fly Lightning or wind can srike him with ease.

...and the fight continues, no winner yet lol

deidara rules
08-09-2009, 03:12 AM
...and the fight continues, no winner yet lol

nope no winner but deidaras most likely the winner

Avenger
08-09-2009, 06:58 AM
fail, deidaras bombs can camoflodge with the sky and are to small for the human eye to nodise that far away.
FAIL. It would get caught in trees if it was 3 MILES HIGH. Also, Deidara could barely breathe.

Avenger
08-09-2009, 07:00 AM
kk I have one question for kakuzu siders. if this fire attack is all that why is Kakashi not dead? I mean Kakuzu used it before but the final time was intercepted by Naruto and Yamato
Naruto came to save the day with his Fuuton Rasengan, not RasenShuriken combined with Yamato's Water technique, something Vortex Jutsu.

TheBlackChidori
08-09-2009, 07:24 AM
Mhmm......This one's another circle debate, isnt it?

J-Sun Tasogare
08-09-2009, 11:47 AM
kazuku wins he can fly his wind can pusue die die and he can use lighting to disable C4 and can disable bombs with lighting he would eventually find and if their is prep time kazu could have more hearts and whoever said kazu was short range is a total fanboy of diedara and doesnt even know who kazuku is iron skin can tank C3 his fire can blow up the birds and stuff man diedara losses he is only good when he cant be reached and isnt good at multi ele attacks