The People vs Sasuke

[Divinegon8]

I already said my nice thing about sasuke i forgot what page but it was long and i defended him from SRhyse and other @$$e$ sooooooooooooooooooo *laughs maniacly

[NARUTARD93]

I wish my prince charming would come and slap me in the face with my own words as I beg him to not leave me all the while tears pouring down my face like a gushing waterfall. And to cheer me up he would knock me out while I sit there and spill my guts for himand then go to my village's enemy for power. Ahhhh, that just soooooooooo turns me on and makes me want to love him even more.

[Sage Of Six Paths]

I used to think that Sasuke was kind of cool. 8-)

His attacks were interesting and he was one of the sole surviving Uchiha.

I liked him even more when I learned about his tragic childhood. :(

He had his quirks, yes... but he also had a personality. (unlike Tenten *cough* *cough*)

But after he joined the Akatsuki...

I lost all respect for him. :x

[Black King]

I used to think that Sasuke was kind of cool. 8-)

His attacks were interesting and he was one of the sole surviving Uchiha.

I liked him even more when I learned about his tragic childhood. :(

He had his quirks, yes... but he also had a personality. (unlike Tenten *cough* *cough*)

But after he joined the Akatsuki...

I lost all respect for him. :x

He, uh...didn't really join them...

Coughhe'susingthemCoughCough

[TheBlackChidori]

Look at why he joined the Akatsuki. He just found out that the Leaders of the Village that was always so good, and so fond of the Uchiha Clan, and talked about "What a tragedy it is about your clan...", are really the ones who ordered their deaths in the first place.

I'd be ready to join up an orginization and exact my revenge too. He found out his brother was next to innocent, the only person he had left(Whether it be for good or bad), and now he's gone, at his own hands no less. Sasuke is GOING to restore his clan and avenge his family, regardless of what it takes. He has NEVER killed an innocent person before. He has NEVER ambushed someone who hasn't given him a reason to do so, or challenged him in the first place. So just because he joined a group that does things that even the Leaf Village has done in the past, he should lose respect?

I wish my prince charming would come and slap me in the face with my own words as I beg him to not leave me all the while tears pouring down my face like a gushing waterfall. And to cheer me up he would knock me out while I sit there and spill my guts for himand then go to my village's enemy for power. Ahhhh, that just soooooooooo turns me on and makes me want to love him even more.
Well, it's a shame whe Prince Charming has no love interest in the Princess in the first place. If Sasuke told her how much he loved her before doing this to her, sure, he'd be an ass. But he never gave her any reason to make her believe he had feelings for her. It's her own fault for not taking the hint.


It was really nice of Sasuke not to kill Naruto after he fought with him, what a great friend I wish my best friend would beat me up and decide not kill me with a finishing blow
Remind me again....Did Sasuke ask Naruto to follow him? Nope, Naruto chased after him, and told him he was taking him back to the village no matter what. Yes, Naruto was doing it for the right reasons. But regardless, nothing was going to stop Sasuke from fulfilling his goal. Sasuke didn't say "Hey Naruto, come meet me here so we can fight!"

I'm sick of everyone calling him a bad friend because of this. Let me make this very clear.

HE DID NOT WANT ANY FRIENDS

HE DENIED ANY ATTACHMENTS

HE MADE IT VERY CLEAR TO THEM THAT HE HAD A GREATER PURPOSE


He didn't become best buds with them all, exchange stories and laugh of memories past, or really spend any of his time outside of work with them. He saved their lives a couple times. They saved his. That was their friendship. That's it.

If you were at work, and there was a guy you knew very well. You weren't really friends, just co-workers. One day, you see him walking across the street and talking on his cellphone, not paying any attention to the road. A car's speeding at him from the other direction, so you run at him and push him out of the way. You save his life, great. But you don't become best friends, don't go out to dinners together, or even hang out after work.

But you then get offered a better job at a company from another state. You take it, and leave the guy who's life you saved behind. He says to you:

"Don't leave, you're my best friend! Please, stay here with me, ignore all your life goals, and completely reverse the purpose of your life because I asked you to!"

Are you going to stay? Uhh, no.



Quit attacking him for having the same ambition that you all love Naruto for. Quit assuming that you know ANYTHING at all about the losses he has suffered, and the emotional trauma he has endured.


Truth of the matter is, my father's dead. My mother's dying but has nothing to do with me. My family has disowned me because of complicated reasons from our past. They kicked me out on the street when I was 16. I bounced from place to place only to have my friends open their homes to me, and kick me out a few weeks down the road for no valid reasons. I've slept in my car, gone to churches for food to keep from going hungry, but I kept pursuing my dreams, and now I have my own place, my own vehicle, and everything. And I'm barely turning 20 years old.


My father tried to kill me when I was a kid. I won't say why, or how, because that's none of your business. After my mom stopped him, we disappeared for a while, and he stayed in jail for a few years. After he was released, he killed himself. Tragic yes? Oh well, that's life.


I spent the better part of my life fighting that side of me. The side that felt responsible for my father's death, the side that made me feel like I was just like him. My own mother blamed me for my dad leaving us. I have to live knowing that there's someone who, despite claiming that she never said that, felt that way.

And the ONE person that I've ever actually loved in my life; her name is Sarah. I met her when I was 13 and she was 15. She was the only person who made me feel like I was worth something, and that I would be something when I grew up. At first, I thought it was love that I felt for her. Later I knew that it was like she was my sister, the only real family I ever had. Unfortunately, she too was taking from me in a car wreck close to her 17th birthday.

I snapped. I started getting in fights, eventually getting expelled from school. My family called me a piece of crap, and I started doing stupid things that got me into trouble. Stealing, vandalizing, and more fighting. Nobody ever took the time to try to make me realize it wasn't my fault, and there was more to look forward to. They just told me "Dont do it. Dont turn out like your father." As if that helped me.

I now have ONE goal in my life. A goal I have never shared with ANYONE. None of my girlfriends, friends, family, nobody. And I wont ever tell anyone this goal because I'm not sure if there is anyone out there who could understand it. But nothing, I repeat, NOTHING WILL EVER keep me from accomplishing this goal.

This is why I relate to Sasuke more than anyone. More than any real person. More than any fictional character. I find myself in an animated cartoon from Japan. And to sit here listening to people badmouth him because of things they don't understand....That's fine by me.

I just hope you all can appreciate the position he has went through. And if anyone's taken the time to read this, thank you. I value all of your opinions and look forward to more debating.

[TheViolletteHeart]

Look at why he joined the Akatsuki. He just found out that the Leaders of the Village that was always so good, and so fond of the Uchiha Clan, and talked about "What a tragedy it is about your clan...", are really the ones [spoiler:2e0kyh2y]who ordered their deaths in the first place.[/spoiler:2e0kyh2y]

I'd be ready to join up an orginization and exact my revenge too. He found out his brother was next to innocent, the only person he had left(Whether it be for good or bad), and now he's gone, at his own hands no less. Sasuke is GOING to restore his clan and avenge his family, regardless of what it takes. He has NEVER killed an innocent person before. He has NEVER ambushed someone who hasn't given him a reason to do so, or challenged him in the first place. So just because he joined a group that does things that even the Leaf Village has done in the past, he should lose respect?

[quote]I wish my prince charming would come and slap me in the face with my own words as I beg him to not leave me all the while tears pouring down my face like a gushing waterfall. And to cheer me up he would knock me out while I sit there and spill my guts for himand then go to my village's enemy for power. Ahhhh, that just soooooooooo turns me on and makes me want to love him even more.


Well, it's a shame whe Prince Charming has no love interest in the Princess in the first place. If Sasuke told her how much he loved her before doing this to her, sure, he'd be an ass. But he never gave her any reason to make her believe he had feelings for her. It's her own fault for not taking the hint.


It was really nice of Sasuke not to kill Naruto after he fought with him, what a great friend I wish my best friend would beat me up and decide not kill me with a finishing blow


Remind me again....Did Sasuke ask Naruto to follow him? Nope, Naruto chased after him, and told him he was taking him back to the village no matter what. Yes, Naruto was doing it for the right reasons. But regardless, nothing was going to stop Sasuke from fulfilling his goal. Sasuke didn't say "Hey Naruto, come meet me here so we can fight!"

I'm sick of everyone calling him a bad friend because of this. Let me make this very clear.

HE DID NOT WANT ANY FRIENDS

HE DENIED ANY ATTACHMENTS

HE MADE IT VERY CLEAR TO THEM THAT HE HAD A GREATER PURPOSE


He didn't become best buds with them all, exchange stories and laugh of memories past, or really spend any of his time outside of work with them. He saved their lives a couple times. They saved his. That was their friendship. That's it.

If you were at work, and there was a guy you knew very well. You weren't really friends, just co-workers. One day, you see him walking across the street and talking on his cellphone, not paying any attention to the road. A car's speeding at him from the other direction, so you run at him and push him out of the way. You save his life, great. But you don't become best friends, don't go out to dinners together, or even hang out after work.

But you then get offered a better job at a company from another state. You take it, and leave the guy who's life you saved behind. He says to you:

"Don't leave, you're my best friend! Please, stay here with me, ignore all your life goals, and completely reverse the purpose of your life because I asked you to!"

Are you going to stay? Uhh, no.



Quit attacking him for having the same ambition that you all love Naruto for. Quit assuming that you know ANYTHING at all about the losses he has suffered, and the emotional trauma he has endured.


Truth of the matter is, my father's dead. My mother's dying but has nothing to do with me. My family has disowned me because of complicated reasons from our past. They kicked me out on the street when I was 16. I bounced from place to place only to have my friends open their homes to me, and kick me out a few weeks down the road for no valid reasons. I've slept in my car, gone to churches for food to keep from going hungry, but I kept pursuing my dreams, and now I have my own place, my own vehicle, and everything. And I'm barely turning 20 years old.


My father tried to kill me when I was a kid. I won't say why, or how, because that's none of your business. After my mom stopped him, we disappeared for a while, and he stayed in jail for a few years. After he was released, he killed himself. Tragic yes? Oh well, that's life.


I spent the better part of my life fighting that side of me. The side that felt responsible for my father's death, the side that made me feel like I was just like him. My own mother blamed me for my dad leaving us. I have to live knowing that there's someone who, despite claiming that she never said that, felt that way.

And the ONE person that I've ever actually loved in my life; her name is Sarah. I met her when I was 13 and she was 15. She was the only person who made me feel like I was worth something, and that I would be something when I grew up. At first, I thought it was love that I felt for her. Later I knew that it was like she was my sister, the only real family I ever had. Unfortunately, she too was taking from me in a car wreck close to her 17th birthday.

I snapped. I started getting in fights, eventually getting expelled from school. My family called me a piece of crap, and I started doing stupid things that got me into trouble. Stealing, vandalizing, and more fighting. Nobody ever took the time to try to make me realize it wasn't my fault, and there was more to look forward to. They just told me "Dont do it. Dont turn out like your father." As if that helped me.

I now have ONE goal in my life. A goal I have never shared with ANYONE. None of my girlfriends, friends, family, nobody. And I wont ever tell anyone this goal because I'm not sure if there is anyone out there who could understand it. But nothing, I repeat, NOTHING WILL EVER keep me from accomplishing this goal.

This is why I relate to Sasuke more than anyone. More than any real person. More than any fictional character. I find myself in an animated cartoon from Japan. And to sit here listening to people badmouth him because of things they don't understand....That's fine by me.

I just hope you all can appreciate the position he has went through. And if anyone's taken the time to read this, thank you. I value all of your opinions and look forward to more debating.[/quote:2e0kyh2y]

Seriously, is it possible for you to make me cry more than you already have?

[Vermillian]

Look at why he joined the Akatsuki. He just found out that the Leaders of the Village that was always so good, and so fond of the Uchiha Clan, and talked about "What a tragedy it is about your clan...", are really the ones [spoiler:7g8g3yp4]who ordered their deaths in the first place.[/spoiler:7g8g3yp4]

I'd be ready to join up an orginization and exact my revenge too. He found out his brother was next to innocent, the only person he had left(Whether it be for good or bad), and now he's gone, at his own hands no less. Sasuke is GOING to restore his clan and avenge his family, regardless of what it takes. He has NEVER killed an innocent person before. He has NEVER ambushed someone who hasn't given him a reason to do so, or challenged him in the first place. So just because he joined a group that does things that even the Leaf Village has done in the past, he should lose respect?

[quote]I wish my prince charming would come and slap me in the face with my own words as I beg him to not leave me all the while tears pouring down my face like a gushing waterfall. And to cheer me up he would knock me out while I sit there and spill my guts for himand then go to my village's enemy for power. Ahhhh, that just soooooooooo turns me on and makes me want to love him even more.


Well, it's a shame whe Prince Charming has no love interest in the Princess in the first place. If Sasuke told her how much he loved her before doing this to her, sure, he'd be an ass. But he never gave her any reason to make her believe he had feelings for her. It's her own fault for not taking the hint.


It was really nice of Sasuke not to kill Naruto after he fought with him, what a great friend I wish my best friend would beat me up and decide not kill me with a finishing blow


Remind me again....Did Sasuke ask Naruto to follow him? Nope, Naruto chased after him, and told him he was taking him back to the village no matter what. Yes, Naruto was doing it for the right reasons. But regardless, nothing was going to stop Sasuke from fulfilling his goal. Sasuke didn't say "Hey Naruto, come meet me here so we can fight!"

I'm sick of everyone calling him a bad friend because of this. Let me make this very clear.

HE DID NOT WANT ANY FRIENDS

HE DENIED ANY ATTACHMENTS

HE MADE IT VERY CLEAR TO THEM THAT HE HAD A GREATER PURPOSE


He didn't become best buds with them all, exchange stories and laugh of memories past, or really spend any of his time outside of work with them. He saved their lives a couple times. They saved his. That was their friendship. That's it.

If you were at work, and there was a guy you knew very well. You weren't really friends, just co-workers. One day, you see him walking across the street and talking on his cellphone, not paying any attention to the road. A car's speeding at him from the other direction, so you run at him and push him out of the way. You save his life, great. But you don't become best friends, don't go out to dinners together, or even hang out after work.

But you then get offered a better job at a company from another state. You take it, and leave the guy who's life you saved behind. He says to you:

"Don't leave, you're my best friend! Please, stay here with me, ignore all your life goals, and completely reverse the purpose of your life because I asked you to!"

Are you going to stay? Uhh, no.



Quit attacking him for having the same ambition that you all love Naruto for. Quit assuming that you know ANYTHING at all about the losses he has suffered, and the emotional trauma he has endured.


Truth of the matter is, my father's dead. My mother's dying but has nothing to do with me. My family has disowned me because of complicated reasons from our past. They kicked me out on the street when I was 16. I bounced from place to place only to have my friends open their homes to me, and kick me out a few weeks down the road for no valid reasons. I've slept in my car, gone to churches for food to keep from going hungry, but I kept pursuing my dreams, and now I have my own place, my own vehicle, and everything. And I'm barely turning 20 years old.


My father tried to kill me when I was a kid. I won't say why, or how, because that's none of your business. After my mom stopped him, we disappeared for a while, and he stayed in jail for a few years. After he was released, he killed himself. Tragic yes? Oh well, that's life.


I spent the better part of my life fighting that side of me. The side that felt responsible for my father's death, the side that made me feel like I was just like him. My own mother blamed me for my dad leaving us. I have to live knowing that there's someone who, despite claiming that she never said that, felt that way.

And the ONE person that I've ever actually loved in my life; her name is Sarah. I met her when I was 13 and she was 15. She was the only person who made me feel like I was worth something, and that I would be something when I grew up. At first, I thought it was love that I felt for her. Later I knew that it was like she was my sister, the only real family I ever had. Unfortunately, she too was taking from me in a car wreck close to her 17th birthday.

I snapped. I started getting in fights, eventually getting expelled from school. My family called me a piece of crap, and I started doing stupid things that got me into trouble. Stealing, vandalizing, and more fighting. Nobody ever took the time to try to make me realize it wasn't my fault, and there was more to look forward to. They just told me "Dont do it. Dont turn out like your father." As if that helped me.

I now have ONE goal in my life. A goal I have never shared with ANYONE. None of my girlfriends, friends, family, nobody. And I wont ever tell anyone this goal because I'm not sure if there is anyone out there who could understand it. But nothing, I repeat, NOTHING WILL EVER keep me from accomplishing this goal.

This is why I relate to Sasuke more than anyone. More than any real person. More than any fictional character. I find myself in an animated cartoon from Japan. And to sit here listening to people badmouth him because of things they don't understand....That's fine by me.

I just hope you all can appreciate the position he has went through. And if anyone's taken the time to read this, thank you. I value all of your opinions and look forward to more debating.[/quote:7g8g3yp4]


His clan Was Power hungry War Mongers. They like danzo Do not deserve to be in charge of the village. why? Because they would rather see the village crumble to almost nothing for there own personal gain. If they would have went through with there coup de tat it would have attracted rival nations to attack while the village was down, causing more pain death and sorrow for every one. If that was ok with them as long as they got there power rush then they deserved there fate i mean for god sakes the next heir to head of the clan is the one that accepted the mission to eradicate them.

Sasuke always used the fact that He had no one as an excuse for what he did. But Every time someone offered to be his friend, his shoulder to cry on he told them to get lost and drove them away.

I am in no way saying he had lived a charmed life but.... His actions are just unjustifiable... I mean i dont care i would easily try to stop my friend from doing something stupid like that

[TheBlackChidori]

Sasuke knew nothing about what his Clans true intentions were.

A shoulder to cry on is nice at times. But in the end, it's just a shoulder.

I'm really regretting posting that though, didnt mean to get so in-depth. Sometime my typing gets carried away as I'm sure you guys have noticed. I'm not mad at anybody, I'm just doing the best I can to explain the psychology of it all in a real-life situation. I don't want any pity.

[Vermillian]

Sasuke knew nothing about what his Clans true intentions were.

A shoulder to cry on is nice at times. But in the end, it's just a shoulder.

I'm really regretting posting that though, didnt mean to get so in-depth. Sometime my typing gets carried away as I'm sure you guys have noticed. I'm not mad at anybody, I'm just doing the best I can to explain the psychology of it all in a real-life situation. I don't want any pity.


Well he found them out at the same time he figured out Itachi was ordered to do it.

[Vidda Hatake]

Sasuke knew nothing about what his Clans true intentions were.

A shoulder to cry on is nice at times. But in the end, it's just a shoulder.

I'm really regretting posting that though, didnt mean to get so in-depth. Sometime my typing gets carried away as I'm sure you guys have noticed. I'm not mad at anybody, I'm just doing the best I can to explain the psychology of it all in a real-life situation. I don't want any pity.


Yes, I saw that. You kept it pretty 'general', but I read the hurt and anger in there as well. But you did survive and you're stronger for it all. I know it doesn't matter what I think, but I have to admit that I'm really impressed by your strength of will and your courage. That wasn't an 'easy' time, but you pulled through. Life is tough and you had to learn that early. No, dear, I don't pity you, I admire you.

[NARUTARD93]

Awww, I didn't meean you to get all upset. :cry: I just like saying stuff about Sasuke, I have no real reason for most of it though. I respect the fact that you admire Sasuke though. I've got a friend kind of like you. Her folks are always kicking her out and they keep telling her she's not good for anything and that she won't get into college, and all that. It depresses me sometimes to know that the people I'm close to go through this kind of stuff.

[Tsunade Phoenix]

sasuke: he's a selfish little punk. nuff said. he doesn't know what loyalty is.

[TheBlackChidori]

Awww, I didn't meean you to get all upset. :cry: I just like saying stuff about Sasuke, I have no real reason for most of it though. I respect the fact that you admire Sasuke though. I've got a friend kind of like you. Her folks are always kicking her out and they keep telling her she's not good for anything and that she won't get into college, and all that. It depresses me sometimes to know that the people I'm close to go through this kind of stuff.

Nah, I wasn't the least bit upset. Like I said, I just wanted to get as realistic as possible about the Sasuke-mindset.

[NARUTARD93]

Awww, I didn't meean you to get all upset. :cry: I just like saying stuff about Sasuke, I have no real reason for most of it though. I respect the fact that you admire Sasuke though. I've got a friend kind of like you. Her folks are always kicking her out and they keep telling her she's not good for anything and that she won't get into college, and all that. It depresses me sometimes to know that the people I'm close to go through this kind of stuff.

Nah, I wasn't the least bit upset. Like I said, I just wanted to get as realistic as possible about the Sasuke-mindset.
But you still had me upset.

[TheBlackChidori]

Well that's because you're an emotional headcase. :P

[NarutoRB5]

i like sasuke and yet i do not like him....i mean he was all cool and like my fav character at beggining but as soon as he gos to orochmaru who appears to have a thing for him(creepy) ive always hated him.!!! Hes a selfish brat!!!!

[BaneDeidara]

wow, i cant believe this topic is still going on :|

[NARUTARD93]

Well that's because you're an emotional headcase. :P
No because one of my best friends goes through that, and I don't like it when the people I'm close to suffer.

[TheViolletteHeart]

Well that's because you're an emotional headcase. :P
No because one of my best friends goes through that, and I don't like it when the people I'm close to suffer.

I don't like when people in general suffer. There's too much pain in the world.

[TheBlackChidori]

Well that's because you're an emotional headcase. :P
No because one of my best friends goes through that, and I don't like it when the people I'm close to suffer.

I don't like when people in general suffer. There's too much pain in the world.

Without pain, there can be no happiness.

[TheBlackChidori]

Without pain, there can be no happiness.

Well tell that to those who are in pain.

[NARUTARD93]

Without pain, there can be no happiness.

Well tell that to those who are in pain.
I suppose that's true.

[TheBlackChidori]

I guess me and Itasan finally won. Whoohoo!

[Taker369]

listen sauske haters sure he can be rude and a jerk but look at vegeta he is the same way and yet people dont call him emo or do they :| .

[itasan]

listen sauske haters sure he can be rude and a jerk but look at vegeta he is the same way and yet people dont call him emo or do they :| .

Ahaha! Comparing Sasuke to Vegeta--I love it. xD

And yay! a toast to victory!

Let anyone try to come up with arguments against half so deep as our arguments for. ;D

[sakuraharuno444]

sauske hater i see

[itasan]

sauske hater i see

Um..Was that directed at me? :lol:

[Nick Tasogare]

but vegeta doesnt look the part like sasuke i like sasuke but hes kinda depressing

[lj0615]

i don't hate sasuke he is one of my favorite characters

[NARUTARD93]

Sorry guys, you haven't won me over yet. I still hate Sasuke and there's nothing you can do about it. *sticks tongue out* So there!

[TheViolletteHeart]

Sorry guys, you haven't won me over yet. I still hate Sasuke and there's nothing you can do about it. *sticks tongue out* So there!

That's because you're immature and stubborn. If not, you may want to be careful with first impressions.

[NARUTARD93]

Sorry guys, you haven't won me over yet. I still hate Sasuke and there's nothing you can do about it. *sticks tongue out* So there!

That's because you're immature and stubborn. If not, you may want to be careful with first impressions.
Your right, I'm very stubborn. A donkey's got nothing over me! Besides Sasuke didn't care about first impressions so why should I?

[Taker369]

Sauske is awsome plain and simple sauske hater.

[Naruto]

Sauske is awsome plain and simple sauske hater.

What do you mean :?:

[TheBlackChidori]

>.>

No reason to call NARUTARD immature. :(

[Vidda Hatake]

Sorry guys, you haven't won me over yet. I still hate Sasuke and there's nothing you can do about it. *sticks tongue out* So there!

That's because you're immature and stubborn. If not, you may want to be careful with first impressions.
Your right, I'm very stubborn. A donkey's got nothing over me! Besides Sasuke didn't care about first impressions so why should I?

I can't believe some of you are acting like this!! This is totally ridiculous! Please quit insulting each other and stick to the topic civilly!! Thank you!

[eternalblackrain]

i don't understand why people have to rude to one another over what they think....


i don't hate sasuke,but at the same time i don't particuraly like him.

[TheBlackChidori]

People just tend to get really heated when a debate gets serious.

But we've gone 54 pages without throwing insults. So let's not start now, so far this is the cleanest debate the forums ever had.

[Taker369]

all i'm saying is theres way to many sause haters and most of them hate him for stupid reasons but i'm not insulting anyone.

[NARUTARD93]

Well thanks for sticking up for me TheBlackChidori, but I'm just playing around. I know you guys like Sasuke, so I'm just having a little fun messing with you guys.

[NarukinzLurver]

I hate Sasuke

Because

He thinks he's better than Naruto. Er. NO!

His hair makes me feel sick. Just thinking of a ducks bum.. it's very disturbing.

And he treats people like shite.

:D

[NARUTARD93]

I hate Sasuke

Because

He thinks he's better than Naruto. Er. NO!

His hair makes me feel sick. Just thinking of a ducks bum.. it's very disturbing.

And he treats people like shite.

:D
I'm not even going to comment on that one.

[TheViolletteHeart]

>.>

No reason to call NARUTARD immature. :(

Sorry...I get angry easily sometimes when I don't get enough sleep. The part about sticking their tongue out made it sound immature because there was no indication that they were joking.

Again, really sorry.

[NARUTARD93]

>.>

No reason to call NARUTARD immature. :(

Sorry...I get angry easily sometimes when I don't get enough sleep. The part about sticking their tongue out made it sound immature because there was no indication that they were joking.

Again, really sorry.
Its okay, I don't mind being called immature, well so long as it has nothing to do with anything important. I forgive you. (See how mature I am.)

[Vermillian]

all i'm saying is theres way to many sause haters and most of them hate him for stupid reasons but i'm not insulting anyone.


Actually I consider betraying all of your friends and teachers a reason to hate. Also Pushing all of your friend away then complaining you have no one is just annoying.

[NARUTARD93]

all i'm saying is theres way to many sause haters and most of them hate him for stupid reasons but i'm not insulting anyone.


Actually I consider betraying all of your friends and teachers a reason to hate. Also Pushing all of your friend away then complaining you have no one is just annoying.
See this a totally valid reason for hating Sasuke. This is way a lot of people hate him. So us haters have like a couple of valid reasons, and then we just start tacking on more unjustified ones to make us feel better and make our hate run stronger.

[seannfma]

all i'm saying is theres way to many sause haters and most of them hate him for stupid reasons but i'm not insulting anyone.


Actually I consider betraying all of your friends and teachers a reason to hate. Also Pushing all of your friend away then complaining you have no one is just annoying.
agreed 100%

[TheViolletteHeart]

>.>

No reason to call NARUTARD immature. :(

Sorry...I get angry easily sometimes when I don't get enough sleep. The part about sticking their tongue out made it sound immature because there was no indication that they were joking.

Again, really sorry.
Its okay, I don't mind being called immature, well so long as it has nothing to do with anything important. I forgive you. (See how mature I am.)

*huggles NARUTARD* Friends?

[NARUTARD93]

*huggles NARUTARD* Friends?[/quote]

*huggles back* Friends. :mrgreen:

[TheBlackChidori]

How did he betray them? He hasnt given away any Leaf secrets. He hasnt tried to destroy the Lead Village. He hasnt gone hunting for anyone from the Leaf Village.


He never even planned on joining Orochimaru. >.>

[NARUTARD93]

How did he betray them? He hasnt given away any Leaf secrets. He hasnt tried to destroy the Lead Village. He hasnt gone hunting for anyone from the Leaf Village.


He never even planned on joining Orochimaru. >.>
Well, if he didn't want to join Orochimaru, than why did he go running towards him crying for power at the first sign of his own weakness? To me that is the same as joining regardless of his reasons. You can't share the same bed with someone and not join them.

[NARUTARD93]

How did he betray them? He hasnt given away any Leaf secrets. He hasnt tried to destroy the Lead Village. He hasnt gone hunting for anyone from the Leaf Village.


He never even planned on joining Orochimaru. >.>
Well, if he didn't want to join Orochimaru, than why did he go running towards him crying for power at the first sign of his own weakness? To me that is the same as joining regardless of his reasons. You can't share the same bed with someone and not join them.

[NARUTARD93]

How did he betray them? He hasnt given away any Leaf secrets. He hasnt tried to destroy the Lead Village. He hasnt gone hunting for anyone from the Leaf Village.


He never even planned on joining Orochimaru. >.>
Well, if he didn't want to join Orochimaru, than why did he go running towards him crying for power at the first sign of his own weakness? To me that is the same as joining regardless of his reasons. You can't share the same bed with someone and not join them.

[Nick Tasogare]

well then how did he end up with orochimaru then when the sound convinced he decided to defect from the village and that in and of itself is betraying (the leaving) but especially that he joined orochimaru, the one who tried to destroy the village makes it betrayal

[Yori]

but its kind of good cause him joinin orichimaru led orichimaru being killed so he also helped the leaf a lot by doing that

[Nick Tasogare]

but its kind of good cause him joinin orichimaru led orichimaru being killed so he also helped the leaf a lot by doing that

hes like itachi he only killed orochi because it was better for him like itachi only killed the clan to test his power

[Vidda Hatake]

How did he betray them? He hasnt given away any Leaf secrets. He hasnt tried to destroy the Lead Village. He hasnt gone hunting for anyone from the Leaf Village.


He never even planned on joining Orochimaru. >.>
Well, if he didn't want to join Orochimaru, than why did he go running towards him crying for power at the first sign of his own weakness? To me that is the same as joining regardless of his reasons. You can't share the same bed with someone and not join them.

I hate to say this, but you can. Assassins often chose women assassins to work at a 'target's' home as, say a maid, or such. The assassin gathered information for their team while they waited. It could take as much as a year or longer to actually get to 'see' the target, but then the assassin took the target out and left. An old trick, but still quite effective even today. So see, it is possible.
That's basically what Sasuke was doing - getting everything he could from Orochimaru before the 'end'. ;)

[Yori]

but its kind of good cause him joinin orichimaru led orichimaru being killed so he also helped the leaf a lot by doing that

hes like itachi he only killed orochi because it was better for him like itachi only killed the clan to test his power
itachi was orderd to do that

[Nick Tasogare]

How did he betray them? He hasnt given away any Leaf secrets. He hasnt tried to destroy the Lead Village. He hasnt gone hunting for anyone from the Leaf Village.


He never even planned on joining Orochimaru. >.>
Well, if he didn't want to join Orochimaru, than why did he go running towards him crying for power at the first sign of his own weakness? To me that is the same as joining regardless of his reasons. You can't share the same bed with someone and not join them.

I hate to say this, but you can. Assassins often chose women assassins to work at a 'target's' home as, say a maid, or such. The assassin gathered information for their team while they waited. It could take as much as a year or longer to actually get to 'see' the target, but then the assassin took the target out and left. An old trick, but still quite effective even today. So see, it is possible.
That's basically what Sasuke was doing - getting everything he could from Orochimaru before the 'end'. ;)

he wasnt ordered to spy on hom and he remains with team hawk righ?

[Yori]

because at this point of time sasuke is lost. with the loosing of his brother and knowing the truth

[Vidda Hatake]

Well, if he didn't want to join Orochimaru, than why did he go running towards him crying for power at the first sign of his own weakness? To me that is the same as joining regardless of his reasons. You can't share the same bed with someone and not join them.

I hate to say this, but you can. Assassins often chose women assassins to work at a 'target's' home as, say a maid, or such. The assassin gathered information for their team while they waited. It could take as much as a year or longer to actually get to 'see' the target, but then the assassin took the target out and left. An old trick, but still quite effective even today. So see, it is possible.
That's basically what Sasuke was doing - getting everything he could from Orochimaru before the 'end'. ;)[/quote]

he wasnt ordered to spy on hom and he remains with team hawk righ?[/quote]

True, but he did get everything he could out of him first. Basically the same thing, right?

[Nick Tasogare]

Well, if he didn't want to join Orochimaru, than why did he go running towards him crying for power at the first sign of his own weakness? To me that is the same as joining regardless of his reasons. You can't share the same bed with someone and not join them.

I hate to say this, but you can. Assassins often chose women assassins to work at a 'target's' home as, say a maid, or such. The assassin gathered information for their team while they waited. It could take as much as a year or longer to actually get to 'see' the target, but then the assassin took the target out and left. An old trick, but still quite effective even today. So see, it is possible.
That's basically what Sasuke was doing - getting everything he could from Orochimaru before the 'end'. ;)[/quote:267pp6um]

he wasnt ordered to spy on hom and he remains with team hawk righ?

True, but he did get everything he could out of him first. Basically the same thing, right?[/quote]

well again it was just good for him in the long run

[Vidda Hatake]

well again it was just good for him in the long run[/quote]



Very true! :D

[TheBlackChidori]

Well, if he didn't want to join Orochimaru, than why did he go running towards him crying for power at the first sign of his own weakness? To me that is the same as joining regardless of his reasons. You can't share the same bed with someone and not join them.Considering his entire plan was to use him for his power, and then kill Orochimaru, I'd say it qualifies as Yes, he can share the bed.

He rid the VIllage of one of the biggest threats it had. And the only reason he didnt rejoin the village, is because A, he knows that the elders are responsible for Itachi's situation, and B, he really doesnt give a damn about asking for everyone's forgiveness. That just isnt him.

[NARUTARD93]

Well, if he didn't want to join Orochimaru, than why did he go running towards him crying for power at the first sign of his own weakness? To me that is the same as joining regardless of his reasons. You can't share the same bed with someone and not join them.Considering his entire plan was to use him for his power, and then kill Orochimaru, I'd say it qualifies as Yes, he can share the bed.

He rid the VIllage of one of the biggest threats it had. And the only reason he didnt rejoin the village, is because A, he knows that the elders are responsible for Itachi's situation, and B, he really doesnt give a damn about asking for everyone's forgiveness. That just isnt him.
Yeah, but he doesn't find any fault in his clan for wanting to take over Konoha, which to me is pretty blindsided.

[Vidda Hatake]

Well, if he didn't want to join Orochimaru, than why did he go running towards him crying for power at the first sign of his own weakness? To me that is the same as joining regardless of his reasons. You can't share the same bed with someone and not join them.Considering his entire plan was to use him for his power, and then kill Orochimaru, I'd say it qualifies as Yes, he can share the bed.

He rid the VIllage of one of the biggest threats it had. And the only reason he didnt rejoin the village, is because A, he knows that the elders are responsible for Itachi's situation, and B, he really doesnt give a damn about asking for everyone's forgiveness. That just isnt him.

Very true!

[TheBlackChidori]

Well, if he didn't want to join Orochimaru, than why did he go running towards him crying for power at the first sign of his own weakness? To me that is the same as joining regardless of his reasons. You can't share the same bed with someone and not join them.Considering his entire plan was to use him for his power, and then kill Orochimaru, I'd say it qualifies as Yes, he can share the bed.

He rid the VIllage of one of the biggest threats it had. And the only reason he didnt rejoin the village, is because A, he knows that the elders are responsible for Itachi's situation, and B, he really doesnt give a damn about asking for everyone's forgiveness. That just isnt him.
Yeah, but he doesn't find any fault in his clan for wanting to take over Konoha, which to me is pretty blindsided.

How do you know? He doesnt really ever mention his clan except for his own family. He was a young child when it all went down. Of course he isnt going to care about something as trivial as politics. He wants to avenge the death of his loved ones, thats it.

Another theory I like about Sasuke: I honestly think he's afraid to love. Look what happens to those he did love? They're all dead, or betrayed him. I dont know about you, but Id have trouble getting close to someone after that too.

[NARUTARD93]

What I was trying to say was that he just automatically assumed that the elders were at fault and now wants to destory Konoha for that reason. He hasn't looked at from their point of view and how it would affect the village.

[TheBlackChidori]

What I was trying to say was that he just automatically assumed that the elders were at fault and now wants to destory Konoha for that reason. He hasn't looked at from their point of view and how it would affect the village.

Well, he knows that they didnt bother to weigh the situation at all. They heard a rumor, and they ordered the deaths. That's all they did. They didnt question them, they didnt ban them from the village, they just snuck up like thieves in the night.

[NARUTARD93]

What I was trying to say was that he just automatically assumed that the elders were at fault and now wants to destory Konoha for that reason. He hasn't looked at from their point of view and how it would affect the village.

Well, he knows that they didnt bother to weigh the situation at all. They heard a rumor, and they ordered the deaths. That's all they did. They didnt question them, they didnt ban them from the village, they just snuck up like thieves in the night.
Actually, they got all of their information from Itachi. So its really Itachi's fault if he didn't give them enough information.

[TheBlackChidori]

What I was trying to say was that he just automatically assumed that the elders were at fault and now wants to destory Konoha for that reason. He hasn't looked at from their point of view and how it would affect the village.

Well, he knows that they didnt bother to weigh the situation at all. They heard a rumor, and they ordered the deaths. That's all they did. They didnt question them, they didnt ban them from the village, they just snuck up like thieves in the night.
Actually, they got all of their information from Itachi. So its really Itachi's fault if he didn't give them enough information.

And look what happened to Itachi? :P

Regardless, they gave the order. Not Itachi. He told them the plan, and they came up with the decision. Simple as that.

[NARUTARD93]

And look what happened to Itachi? :P

Regardless, they gave the order. Not Itachi. He told them the plan, and they came up with the decision. Simple as that.
Which is why Sasuke is the loser here. The elders knew what the clan was doing. He should just except that the Uchihas are the bad guys and should try and revive the clan to clear the familg name.

[TheBlackChidori]

And look what happened to Itachi? :P

Regardless, they gave the order. Not Itachi. He told them the plan, and they came up with the decision. Simple as that.
Which is why Sasuke is the loser here. The elders knew what the clan was doing. He should just except that the Uchihas are the bad guys and should try and revive the clan to clear the familg name.

Well. that wouldnt avenge his family. If someone was responsible for the death of my loved ones, you can guarantee they're going to get whats coming to them before I ever rest.

[NARUTARD93]

And look what happened to Itachi? :P

Regardless, they gave the order. Not Itachi. He told them the plan, and they came up with the decision. Simple as that.
Which is why Sasuke is the loser here. The elders knew what the clan was doing. He should just except that the Uchihas are the bad guys and should try and revive the clan to clear the familg name.

Well. that wouldnt avenge his family. If someone was responsible for the death of my loved ones, you can guarantee they're going to get whats coming to them before I ever rest.
Even if this person was responsible for the deaths of many, and a pointless and bloody revolt?

[Vidda Hatake]

You both do have some very valid points, but I have to agree with TheBlackChidori - if anyone killed someone I loved, I honestly believe that I would do everything in my power to kill that person. I might know in the back of my mind that it isn't right to kill anyone, but my heart and soul wouldn't care and would cloud my judgment. I wouldn't care if it was right or wrong, only feel the driving need to kill.

[itasan]

And look what happened to Itachi? :P

Regardless, they gave the order. Not Itachi. He told them the plan, and they came up with the decision. Simple as that.
Which is why Sasuke is the loser here. The elders knew what the clan was doing. He should just except that the Uchihas are the bad guys and should try and revive the clan to clear the familg name.

Well. that wouldnt avenge his family. If someone was responsible for the death of my loved ones, you can guarantee they're going to get whats coming to them before I ever rest.

I think it's important to remember, when suggesting all these rational plans and alternatives for Sasuke, what happened to him.

A fear of love isn't the only thing Sasuke got from his tragic past--He has the emotional level of a child, really. His emotional capabilities have been shattered by the deaths of everyone he knew and loved and he has been reduced to understanding of two things: hatred and revenge.

Acceptance of his family's crimes is unimaginable to him. Moving on is unimaginable. He has nothing but revenge and hate. He feels can grow to learn of nothing else until he has "satisfied" these emotions. Unfortunately, as proven by his new target for revenge, satisfaction of these kind of things is impossible. He has, however, blinded himself to any other alternative.

Even if Sasuke were to achieve his current goal, he would be left unfufilled. But he will never consider any other alternative. His only hope comes from those around him.

[NARUTARD93]

Well revenge sounds nice in theroy, it doesn't change anything. It won't make you feel better, possibly quite the opposite. It'll leave you empty and unsatisfied, you'll find new reasons to kill people and never be satisfied. In they end, you'll have nothing but the blood of many on your hands and a confused and coflicted soul. Be the better person and rise above the hatered and bloodshed and forgive the person that's wronged you. And if you can't do that atleast, then just don't stoop to their level and kill them. Nothing good will result.

[seannfma]

Well revenge sounds nice in theroy, it doesn't change anything. It won't make you feel better, possibly quite the opposite. It'll leave you empty and unsatisfied, you'll find new reasons to kill people and never be satisfied. In they end, you'll have nothing but the blood of many on your hands and a confused and coflicted soul. Be the better person and rise above the hatered and bloodshed and forgive the person that's wronged you. And if you can't do that atleast, then just don't stoop to their level and kill them. Nothing good will result.
Well said

[TheBlackChidori]

Well revenge sounds nice in theroy, it doesn't change anything. It won't make you feel better, possibly quite the opposite. It'll leave you empty and unsatisfied, you'll find new reasons to kill people and never be satisfied. In they end, you'll have nothing but the blood of many on your hands and a confused and coflicted soul. Be the better person and rise above the hatered and bloodshed and forgive the person that's wronged you. And if you can't do that atleast, then just don't stoop to their level and kill them. Nothing good will result.

Even if that may be true, it gives you a sense of purpose in life, when everything else has been taken from you. Some people who exact revenge, are actually able to finally start their lives over after its been taken care of. Maybe once Sasuke exacts his goal of life, he will finally be satisfied and feel a sense of accomplishment with himself, and be able to care about himself and those who cared about him.

But for now, he has a greater purpose. Even if I was going to feel empty afterwards, Id still take my revenge. Because I already feel empty.

[NARUTARD93]

Well revenge sounds nice in theroy, it doesn't change anything. It won't make you feel better, possibly quite the opposite. It'll leave you empty and unsatisfied, you'll find new reasons to kill people and never be satisfied. In they end, you'll have nothing but the blood of many on your hands and a confused and coflicted soul. Be the better person and rise above the hatered and bloodshed and forgive the person that's wronged you. And if you can't do that atleast, then just don't stoop to their level and kill them. Nothing good will result.

Even if that may be true, it gives you a sense of purpose in life, when everything else has been taken from you. Some people who exact revenge, are actually able to finally start their lives over after its been taken care of. Maybe once Sasuke exacts his goal of life, he will finally be satisfied and feel a sense of accomplishment with himself, and be able to care about himself and those who cared about him.

But for now, he has a greater purpose. Even if I was going to feel empty afterwards, Id still take my revenge. Because I already feel empty.
But how would you feel knowing that you just killed somebody and that his/her family and friends will now be going through the same kind of emotional suffering as you?

[TheBlackChidori]

Well revenge sounds nice in theroy, it doesn't change anything. It won't make you feel better, possibly quite the opposite. It'll leave you empty and unsatisfied, you'll find new reasons to kill people and never be satisfied. In they end, you'll have nothing but the blood of many on your hands and a confused and coflicted soul. Be the better person and rise above the hatered and bloodshed and forgive the person that's wronged you. And if you can't do that atleast, then just don't stoop to their level and kill them. Nothing good will result.

Even if that may be true, it gives you a sense of purpose in life, when everything else has been taken from you. Some people who exact revenge, are actually able to finally start their lives over after its been taken care of. Maybe once Sasuke exacts his goal of life, he will finally be satisfied and feel a sense of accomplishment with himself, and be able to care about himself and those who cared about him.

But for now, he has a greater purpose. Even if I was going to feel empty afterwards, Id still take my revenge. Because I already feel empty.
But how would you feel knowing that you just killed somebody and that his/her family and friends will now be going through the same kind of emotional suffering as you?

Just fine. Because they had a valid reason for being killed. If Sasuke's parents had murdered people from the Leaf beforehand, and betrayed everybody they ever claimed allegiance too, it'd be a much different story. But they didnt. They didnt do a damn thing to deserve it.

[itasan]

Just fine. Because they had a valid reason for being killed. If Sasuke's parents had murdered people from the Leaf beforehand, and betrayed everybody they ever claimed allegiance too, it'd be a much different story. But they didnt. They didnt do a damn thing to deserve it.

So...If a man who was going to become a serial killer/rapist/torturer dies before he can commit any such crimes, he didn't deserve to die? Even though if he had lived he would have killed and tortured innocent people?

Personally, I have a hard time beliving anyone deserves to die, but I just though I'd throw that out there. ;D

[seannfma]

Just fine. Because they had a valid reason for being killed. If Sasuke's parents had murdered people from the Leaf beforehand, and betrayed everybody they ever claimed allegiance too, it'd be a much different story. But they didnt. They didnt do a damn thing to deserve it.

So...If a man who was going to become a serial killer/rapist/torturer dies before he can commit any such crimes, he didn't deserve to die? Even though if he had lived he would have killed and tortured innocent people?

Personally, I have a hard time beliving anyone deserves to die, but I just though I'd throw that out there. ;D
I agree 100%

[Memrai Fang]

Nothing personal, (looks around to check for Sasuke fans) but sasuke is an exeption

[seannfma]

Nothing personal, (looks around to check for Sasuke fans) but sasuke is an exeption
Sasuke is OK

[NARUTARD93]

Okay, so its okay for them to be would be terrorists but not actual terrorists?

[Memrai Fang]

Well, as long as they are not really a terrorist.
How did this conversation get to terrorists, anyway?

[NARUTARD93]

Well, as long as they are not really a terrorist.
How did this conversation get to terrorists, anyway?
Well appearently its not okay to kill people before they become responsible for the death of many and a complete and utter revolution. But is is okay for people who actually do that.

[TheBlackChidori]

Okay, so its okay for them to be would be terrorists but not actual terrorists?

Exactly. =)

Everyones had sick thoughts. Dont deny that you havent. But there's no way to tell the future. Fate can always change. That serial rapist/murder that Itasan was talking about, could be walking down the road on the way to his first stabbing, and see a little boy playing in a busy street. He sees a car coming full speed, and jumps in the way, saving the little boy.

He suddenly has a change of heart and goes on to cure Cancer.

Totally hypothetical, but still possible.

[Okami Midoriiro]

... ... ...?

[Memrai Fang]

Okay, so its okay for them to be would be terrorists but not actual terrorists?

Exactly. =)

Everyones had sick thoughts. Dont deny that you havent. But there's no way to tell the future. Fate can always change. That serial rapist/murder that Itasan was talking about, could be walking down the road on the way to his first stabbing, and see a little boy playing in a busy street. He sees a car coming full speed, and jumps in the way, saving the little boy.

He suddenly has a change of heart and goes on to cure Cancer.

Totally hypothetical, but still possible.
Good point there.

[itasan]

Okay, so its okay for them to be would be terrorists but not actual terrorists?

Exactly. =)

Everyones had sick thoughts. Dont deny that you havent. But there's no way to tell the future. Fate can always change. That serial rapist/murder that Itasan was talking about, could be walking down the road on the way to his first stabbing, and see a little boy playing in a busy street. He sees a car coming full speed, and jumps in the way, saving the little boy.

He suddenly has a change of heart and goes on to cure Cancer.

Totally hypothetical, but still possible.

And goes on to cure cancer?? xDD

Don't you think that was a little too far? xD

[KrInArD]

Quite honestly i hate sasuke he thinks hes so superior to everyone when in reality naruto is far more powerful despite the fact that sasuke always put him down (ironically) and without the help of Orochimaru sasuke would be nothing compared to the other characters

[NARUTARD93]

Quite honestly i hate sasuke he thinks hes so superior to everyone when in reality naruto is far more powerful despite the fact that sasuke always put him down (ironically) and without the help of Orochimaru sasuke would be nothing compared to the other characters
Amen!

[seannfma]

Quite honestly i hate sasuke he thinks hes so superior to everyone when in reality naruto is far more powerful despite the fact that sasuke always put him down (ironically) and without the help of Orochimaru sasuke would be nothing compared to the other characters
Amen!
ditto

[KrInArD]

Okay, so its okay for them to be would be terrorists but not actual terrorists?

Exactly. =)

Everyones had sick thoughts. Dont deny that you havent. But there's no way to tell the future. Fate can always change. That serial rapist/murder that Itasan was talking about, could be walking down the road on the way to his first stabbing, and see a little boy playing in a busy street. He sees a car coming full speed, and jumps in the way, saving the little boy.

He suddenly has a change of heart and goes on to cure Cancer.

Totally hypothetical, but still possible.
Good point there.
Haha well thats a good way to put it i guess

[TheBlackChidori]

Quite honestly i hate sasuke he thinks hes so superior to everyone when in reality naruto is far more powerful despite the fact that sasuke always put him down (ironically) and without the help of Orochimaru sasuke would be nothing compared to the other characters

What help? He doesnt even need the Curse Mark to use his best Jutsu.

Kirin, Chidori, and all those came from his normal Sharingan. Amaterasu comes from his Mongekyo. The only thing Orochimaru did was help him fly, pretty much, since CM2 is weaker than Mongekyo.

With or without Orochimaru, he would have found the strength to become as powerful as Itachi.

[KrInArD]

Quite honestly i hate sasuke he thinks hes so superior to everyone when in reality naruto is far more powerful despite the fact that sasuke always put him down (ironically) and without the help of Orochimaru sasuke would be nothing compared to the other characters

What help? He doesnt even need the Curse Mark to use his best Jutsu.

Kirin, Chidori, and all those came from his normal Sharingan. Amaterasu comes from his Mongekyo. The only thing Orochimaru did was help him fly, pretty much, since CM2 is weaker than Mongekyo.

With or without Orochimaru, he would have found the strength to become as powerful as Itachi.

true what we cant base the information and speculate on wat cudve been remember the only reason he went to orochimaru was to gain power this was a result of feeling somewhat inferior to naruto after their battle at the hospital

[AkiHoshi]

I'm mad at sasuke for leaving. And for being so depressed all the time. He never listened when people told him revenge isn't the answer.

[Taker369]

but atleast he betrayed orchimaru so technically he isnt bad anymore and plus his curse mark 2 is awsome i wonder if theres a third form ?

[Boku]

ha ha ha want to watch me piss everyone off....

SASUKE IS A EMO!!!!

this is makes me laugh so much, people take it to the heart.

[Whitereaper]

I hate Sasuke, and encourage you to as well.

Sign here if you hate Sasuke too, and give atleast one reason why. If you like Sasuke, you're encouraged to reconsider. If you still like Sasuke after that, feel free to sign saying you like him, and give atleast one reason why.

Alright a post of hating Sasuke. I hate him with all my power. why:

1- He is arrogant and wants to kill his only brother.
2- All his actions are driven be revenge
3- Would sell himself just for the sake of power.
4- His hair style looks like a cockatoo.

[TheBlackChidori]

ha ha ha want to watch me piss everyone off....

SASUKE IS A EMO!!!!

this is makes me laugh so much, people take it to the heart.

ohemgee how dare u!!!111

[Vermillian]

ha ha ha want to watch me piss everyone off....

SASUKE IS A EMO!!!!

this is makes me laugh so much, people take it to the heart.

ohemgee how dare u!!!111


LIKE TOTALLY ZOMGZ PWNZORS~

[TheBlackChidori]

Alright a post of hating Sasuke. I hate him with all my power. why:

1- He is arrogant and wants to kill his only brother.
2- All his actions are driven be revenge
3- Would sell himself just for the sake of power.
4- His hair style looks like a cockatoo.

1. Arrogant? Sounds to me more like ambitious. If you want my full argument, read back the last 10 pages. Bottom line, let someone kill your entire family and all the people you love, and walk free. Tell me if you're going to just let it go.

2. See #1.

3. See #1.

4. It's called Duck Butt Hair. >.<

[garraswerewolf]

god sasuke just sucks it doesnt matter what his hair looks like

[TheBlackChidori]

Sadly, I've found an argument for every detail of Sasuke-Hating, except his hair.

Here's my only argument. Fangirls still adore him, even with his Duck-Butt hair. So nyah!

[garraswerewolf]

well i think hes compensating for being ill equipped
if you know what i mean

[Vermillian]

Alright a post of hating Sasuke. I hate him with all my power. why:

1- He is arrogant and wants to kill his only brother.
2- All his actions are driven be revenge
3- Would sell himself just for the sake of power.
4- His hair style looks like a cockatoo.

1. Arrogant? Sounds to me more like ambitious. If you want my full argument, read back the last 10 pages. Bottom line, let someone kill your entire family and all the people you love, and walk free. Tell me if you're going to just let it go.

2. See #1.

3. See #1.

4. It's called Duck Butt Hair. >.<


I find all his arrogance to be post itachi TBH his actions after he knows the truth.

[Vermillian]

How did he betray them? He hasnt given away any Leaf secrets. He hasnt tried to destroy the Lead Village. He hasnt gone hunting for anyone from the Leaf Village.


He never even planned on joining Orochimaru. >.>

He plans to invade konoha though.

[sasukefan]

ha ha ha want to watch me piss everyone off....

SASUKE IS A EMO!!!!

this is makes me laugh so much, people take it to the heart.

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :x no i will not give you my reaction :|
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[Vermillian]

ha ha ha want to watch me piss everyone off....

SASUKE IS A EMO!!!!

this is makes me laugh so much, people take it to the heart.

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :x no i will not give you my reaction :|
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

you already did.

[Taker369]

atleas he's actuall important unlike garra who has nothing to do with story so sauske hater stfu and open your eyes he's not a bad character you peopl make it seem like he's bad.

[sasukefan]

yeah i know :|
INNER MODE... :evil: :evil: :evil: sasuke is not emo :evil: :evil: :evil:

[Viceroy]

Is Gilbert Godfrey blind?

[Vermillian]

atleas he's actuall important unlike garra who has nothing to do with story so sauske hater stfu and open your eyes he's not a bad character you peopl make it seem like he's bad.


Well that is because he knows that his clan deserved to die and still seeks revenge. granted he is doing it for itachi but it was itachi's own decision. He has just become a lil kid with superiority issues.

[zerosameri]

i don't hate sasuke he is my second favorite person on naruto/ naruto shippuden and i got a lot of reasons to like him too.see

-he liked naruto enough not to kill him
-he told naruto he was his only and true firend
-he told naruto he was his rival(made naruto very happy)
-he did not kill naruto when he had the chans at the very end of there fight when naruto was nocked out
-his hair is very cool
-is very very strong
-can do his full body chidori
-has a sweet sword
-felt sad when he killed itachi(had a very sad expression on his face)
-because he is cool(not a very good example)
-sasuke styl of jutsu
-has gain a very new and stronger [spoiler:3mnos8v4]sharingan[/spoiler:3mnos8v4]
-his different clothes
-he felt sad when he had heard the truth about itachi
-sasuke can transmit his chidori into his sword
-his reaction to things
-sasuke said " i don' want to see another one of my comrades to fall in front of me any more"
-he almost died to save sakura when they were fighting graara
-saved narutos life a few times
-is reallt competitive with naruto(makes naruto happy and stronger)
-made naruto really happy when naruto had to save sasuke life in the forest of death.
-became a rouge nija(that made naruto want to get very strong and become closer to sasuke)
-serpasted mandara uchiha shaingan
-all he has to do is point to use a genjutsu
-his coolness
-he felt sad when he left naruto( had a very very sad exspertoin)
and so on
-sasuke whant to reveng his clan
-he can use the amaterasu

[Taker369]

his clan deserved to die are you heartless that means all the kids and faimlys deserves to die if thats the way u want i hope neji and hinatas burn alive in hell :twisted: .

[Vermillian]

his clan deserved to die are you heartless that means all the kids and faimlys deserves to die if thats the way u want i hope neji and hinatas burn alive in hell :twisted: .


The Hyuga weren't trying to over throw the village.
The Uchiha were. something they new would cost alot of lives. They were using itachi because with out him they wouldn't have a chance. Second If they did do that it would have started a war and cost many more lives. A very high multiple of the population of the uchiha clan.

Killing off the clan was the lesser of 2 evils.

[Taker369]

they werent all evil like they could have turned good every other villain in naruto does .

[sasukefan]

they werent all evil like they could have turned good every other villain in naruto does .

wait WHAT
the villians don't normally turn good...except for minor villians the don't really
sure there is Zabuza and Haku but only when they died.
but that is it

[Vermillian]

they werent all evil like they could have turned good every other villain in naruto does .

Orly?~ Even Orochimaru? Even Pain? Even Hidan and kakuzu? I'm sorry Gaara and Zabuza do not count as every villain.~

Also the women were involved too they knew about it and didn't try to stop. Sasuke's mom even encourages Itachi to follow along the clan.

[Taker369]

either way the leaf will pay when madora kills them all along with sauske because the uchia clan was awsome and who cares if there evil theres nothing wrong with liking villains u sauske haters.

[Whitereaper]

his clan deserved to die are you heartless that means all the kids and faimlys deserves to die if thats the way u want i hope neji and hinatas burn alive in hell :twisted: .

they should have all been dead had itachi not saved his life there would be no uchiha to help that other plan to attack konoha.

[Vermillian]

either way the leaf will pay when madora kills them all along with sauske because the uchia clan was awsome and who cares if there evil theres nothing wrong with liking villains u sauske haters.

I agree that isn't why i hate him. I hate him cause he is a betrayer. Hell i like the Uchiha clan that still doesn't mean what they were planning was right.

[sasukefan]

no one ever treated them right they looked down on Uchiha look at this has an Uchiha ever been hokage...NO.. and WHY do you think that is...hmm i wonder oh yeah THEY HATE THEM!!! the Senju only allied with Uchiha so they could become the strongest. You think they actually WANTED to ally with them...NO!!!

[Vermillian]

no one ever treated them right they looked down on Uchiha look at this has an Uchiha ever been hokage...NO.. and WHY do you think that is...hmm i wonder oh yeah THEY HATE THEM!!! the Senju only allied with Uchiha so they could become the strongest. You think they actually WANTED to ally with them...NO!!!

They allied with them for power true. but it wasn't to rule them it was to set up a powerful village to decrease warfare. would you rather live in a village wit ha pathetic Military or the one with the strongest that no one wants to ... with. The Uchiha weren't leaders they were Warriors. and also if you recall Madara had his chance to be hokage but he Lost to Hashirama Senju. Meaning he not only didn't have the proper mind set to be the leader but nor was he most fit to defend the village.

[sasukefan]

he only FOUGHT with him because they wouldn't ALLOW him to be hokage

[Vermillian]

he only FOUGHT with him because they wouldn't ALLOW him to be hokage

Because they thought Hashirama was Superior which guess what that fight proved. thats correct! it proves Hashirama was more worthy to be hokage just like every non uchiha thought.

[NARUTARD93]

You guys are all complaining about the alliance and everything between the Senju and the Uchiha, just remember this: the Uchiha CHOSE to make that alliance with the Senju.Madara tried to tell them not to do it, but they still did. It was only AFTER Madara left that they decided he was right. So really, whose fault was that?

[TheBlackChidori]

You guys are all complaining about the alliance and everything between the Senju and the Uchiha, just remember this: the Uchiha CHOSE to make that alliance with the Senju.Madara tried to tell them not to do it, but they still did. It was only AFTER Madara left that they decided he was right. So really, whose fault was that?

The Uchiha that planned the revolt werent the same Uchiha that signed the alliance. That was 80 years ago.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

Go to the Naruto Petition, people!

[NARUTARD93]

You guys are all complaining about the alliance and everything between the Senju and the Uchiha, just remember this: the Uchiha CHOSE to make that alliance with the Senju.Madara tried to tell them not to do it, but they still did. It was only AFTER Madara left that they decided he was right. So really, whose fault was that?

The Uchiha that planned the revolt werent the same Uchiha that signed the alliance. That was 80 years ago.
Yeah, but the guys that were there after Madara didn't relaize the crapshoot they were in until after Madara left. But they still didn't do anything except to fantazie their revenge.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

Go to the Naruto Petition, people!
It is located inside the Naruto News Central!

[KrInArD]

i think most of you are failing to realize that the thread is about sasuke not the uchiha clan but whether sasuke should be hated or liked and everybody is getting way to emotional about it the facts are:

1. Absolute Power corrupts absolutely and this is the case for sasuke due to a desparate need for power led to ally himself with orochimaru

2. Orochimaru was the one who tried to destroy konoha and kill everybody within it

3. Sasuke's misplaced desire for revenge turned to konoha after he killed itachi, killing itachi only deepened the void, this shows sasuke's ignorance to reason despite his great power

4. Sasuke is one of the characters many people love to hate and thats what makes him so unique despite the fact that hes good or bad

there is sasuke in a nutshell i hope you can guys can take it for what it is and formulate logical opinions

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

i think most of you are failing to realize that the thread is about sasuke not the uchiha clan but whether sasuke should be hated or liked and everybody is getting way to emotional about it the facts are:

1. Absolute Power corrupts absolutely and this is the case for sasuke due to a desparate need for power led to ally himself with orochimaru

2. Orochimaru was the one who tried to destroy konoha and kill everybody within it

3. Sasuke's misplaced desire for revenge turned to konoha after he killed itachi, killing itachi only deepened the void, this shows sasuke's ignorance to reason despite his great power

4. Sasuke is one of the characters many people love to hate and thats what makes him so unique despite the fact that hes good or bad

there is sasuke in a nutshell i hope you can guys can take it for what it is and formulate logical opinions
I agree with you. In my opinion, I don't like or hate him. He has good qualities and bad qualities. Everyone does, so live with it.

[Taker369]

Sasuke isnt with orchimaru anymore so thats doesent really count imo.

[Sintar07]

Sasuke isnt with orchimaru anymore so thats doesent really count imo.
That's right, he's now with the Akatsuki, who are like ten times worse. He's so stupid :p

[KrInArD]

Sasuke isnt with orchimaru anymore so thats doesent really count imo.
That's right, he's now with the Akatsuki, who are like ten times worse. He's so stupid :p

exactly

[TheBlackChidori]

Sasuke isnt with orchimaru anymore so thats doesent really count imo.
That's right, he's now with the Akatsuki, who are like ten times worse. He's so stupid :p

*Is about to seriously quit this topic*

Im thinking of going back to ALL my previous posts, and posting every bit of it once again for people to read.

[Boku]

Sasuke isnt with orchimaru anymore so thats doesent really count imo.
That's right, he's now with the Akatsuki, who are like ten times worse. He's so stupid :p

*Is about to seriously quit this topic*

Im thinking of going back to ALL my previous posts, and posting every bit of it once again for people to read.

it won't matter you will still be wasting your breath.

[TheBlackChidori]

Unfortunately, when it comes to opinions and debating, most people dont even bother reading a post that's longer than 3 sentences. >.<

[garraswerewolf]

ya it loses me after 2

[Vermillian]

Some people like sasuke some people don't. nothing can settle this debate its a matter of preference. you can't insult someone for liking or not liking a character.

[garraswerewolf]

Some people like sasuke some people don't. nothing can settle this debate its a matter of preference. you can't insult someone for liking or not liking a character.
you have a very good point there

[Vermillian]

Some people like sasuke some people don't. nothing can settle this debate its a matter of preference. you can't insult someone for liking or not liking a character.
you have a very good point there

Yea i just see this becoming a flame fest soon so >_> figured making the person who initiates the flame fest look stupid before it even starts is the best way to avoid it >_>

[TheBlackChidori]

I dont insult anyone. I just bend their will to the way I like it.

[garraswerewolf]

I dont insult anyone. I just bend their will to the way I like it.
good for you thats a good talent to have
i dont really care about sasuke hes a gay emo so

[Vermillian]

I dont insult anyone. I just bend their will to the way I like it.

Sure you do :) but i wasn't talking bout you its what other people said that makes me think there will be some insults ahead. ><

[garraswerewolf]

of course there will its inevitable

[Vermillian]

of course there will its inevitable

Of course. Flames are so fun to watch

[garraswerewolf]

of course there will its inevitable

Of course. Flames are so fun to watch
i know i like when people get yelled at by a mod

[Vermillian]

of course there will its inevitable

Of course. Flames are so fun to watch
i know i like when people get yelled at by a mod

OMG the best is when rock lee starts flame wars then reports EVERY post you make after HAAHAHAH its fun getting yelled at for them.

[garraswerewolf]

i dont get in trouble i hate confrontation

[Vermillian]

I normally just push it aside but rock lee is funny... i mean how he uses the same fake facts in arguments even after you disprove them LOL

[sakura202]

i love sasuke

[itasan]

Sadly, I've found an argument for every detail of Sasuke-Hating, except his hair.

Here's my only argument. Fangirls still adore him, even with his Duck-Butt hair. So nyah!

Kyaaa~!!! I can attest to thaaaat!!!! *huggles sasu-kun*

It's smexy duck-but/cockatoo.

[itasan]

well i think hes compensating for being ill equipped
if you know what i mean

Omg, that explains the whole "refuses to forget about itachi and just repopulate the clan" thing... :shock:

:lol:

ah poor sasu-kun...Here am I, mocking him even as his supporter!! xD

[itasan]

i don't hate sasuke he is my second favorite person on naruto/ naruto shippuden and i got a lot of reasons to like him too.see

-he liked naruto enough not to kill him
-he told naruto he was his only and true firend
-he told naruto he was his rival(made naruto very happy)
-he did not kill naruto when he had the chans at the very end of there fight when naruto was nocked out
-his hair is very cool
-is very very strong
-can do his full body chidori
-has a sweet sword
-felt sad when he killed itachi(had a very sad expression on his face)
-because he is cool(not a very good example)
-sasuke styl of jutsu
-has gain a very new and stronger [spoiler:1cclqa1y]sharingan[/spoiler:1cclqa1y]
-his different clothes
-he felt sad when he had heard the truth about itachi
-sasuke can transmit his chidori into his sword
-his reaction to things
-sasuke said " i don' want to see another one of my comrades to fall in front of me any more"
-he almost died to save sakura when they were fighting graara
-saved narutos life a few times
-is reallt competitive with naruto(makes naruto happy and stronger)
-made naruto really happy when naruto had to save sasuke life in the forest of death.
-became a rouge nija(that made naruto want to get very strong and become closer to sasuke)
-serpasted mandara uchiha shaingan
-all he has to do is point to use a genjutsu
-his coolness
-he felt sad when he left naruto( had a very very sad exspertoin)
and so on
-sasuke whant to reveng his clan
-he can use the amaterasu

*claps*

Good reasons!! :D

[itasan]

Sasuke isnt with orchimaru anymore so thats doesent really count imo.
That's right, he's now with the Akatsuki, who are like ten times worse. He's so stupid :p

*Is about to seriously quit this topic*

Im thinking of going back to ALL my previous posts, and posting every bit of it once again for people to read.

They still won't..short attention spans and young age don't go well with long, thought-out arguments fitting for a character analysis paper for an English class.

In the end I guess we can't brainwash them all afterall...Can't change a thing....Poor sasu-kun, guess we just don't have naruto's special ability. ;D

[itasan]

I dont insult anyone. I just bend their will to the way I like it.

Ahaha, life brilliance right there! Everyone take head to that statement!! *looks around to others, pointing insistingly at sentence*

[Vermillian]

well i think hes compensating for being ill equipped
if you know what i mean

Omg, that explains the whole "refuses to forget about itachi and just repopulate the clan" thing... :shock:

:lol:

ah poor sasu-kun...Here am I, mocking him even as his supporter!! xD

Happens to the best of us ><

[itasan]

I dont insult anyone. I just bend their will to the way I like it.
good for you thats a good talent to have
i dont really care about sasuke hes a gay emo so

AH! where's the emo-love??? D:

[Vermillian]

I dont insult anyone. I just bend their will to the way I like it.
good for you thats a good talent to have
i dont really care about sasuke hes a gay emo so

AH! where's the emo-love??? D:

ok after further review this post was prolly a bit extreme ><

[KrInArD]

SRhyse was a genius for posting this i hope everyone realizes that we can argue till we're blue in the face but we're not gona persuade anybody to change their opinions about sasuke we have the natural teenage stubborness and the will to avoid conformity for that
thanks to the the power of youth hahaha :D

[Vermillian]

SRhyse was a genius for posting this i hope everyone realizes that we can argue till we're blue in the face but we're not gona persuade anybody to change their opinions about sasuke we have the natural teenage stubborness and the will to avoid conformity for that
thanks to the the power of youth hahaha :D

Agreed all i do any more is try and pick people arguments apart.

[KrInArD]

SRhyse was a genius for posting this i hope everyone realizes that we can argue till we're blue in the face but we're not gona persuade anybody to change their opinions about sasuke we have the natural teenage stubborness and the will to avoid conformity for that
thanks to the the power of youth hahaha :D

Agreed all i do any more is try and pick people arguments apart.

same here i love playing devils advocate by the way sweet avatar haha

[Vermillian]

SRhyse was a genius for posting this i hope everyone realizes that we can argue till we're blue in the face but we're not gona persuade anybody to change their opinions about sasuke we have the natural teenage stubborness and the will to avoid conformity for that
thanks to the the power of youth hahaha :D

Agreed all i do any more is try and pick people arguments apart.

same here i love playing devils advocate by the way sweet avatar haha

Hells CHYEA hina chan ftw

[KrInArD]

i just thought that cuz im a huge hinata fan

[Taker369]

sauske hater have to agree the fight between sauske and naruto was the best fight in the orignal sereis.

[TheBlackChidori]

In the end I guess we can't brainwash them all afterall...Can't change a thing....Poor sasu-kun, guess we just don't have naruto's special ability. ;D


Wanna bet? You dont know me as well as you thought.

[Taker369]

i'm lost but oh well.

[KrInArD]

sauske hater have to agree the fight between sauske and naruto was the best fight in the orignal sereis.

yea that fight was amazing

[Vermillian]

sauske hater have to agree the fight between sauske and naruto was the best fight in the orignal sereis.

yea that fight was amazing

I liked the one on the rooftop the best but they were both cool.

[TentenForever-Wrath]

I bet you that at least 1/4 the people that watch naruto hate sasuke, this forum (almost)proves it

[TentenForever-Wrath]

sorry I didn't add this before I wasn't thinking and I don't like editing but he's not really emo :?:
Here's some proof:
I hate Sasuke, and encourage you to as well.

Sign here if you hate Sasuke too, and give atleast one reason why. If you like Sasuke, you're encouraged to reconsider. If you still like Sasuke after that, feel free to sign saying you like him, and give atleast one reason why.

- He refuses to go out with any girl on the show.
I don't see how any single man can refuse to go out with someone that's both a girl and a ninja.

- He's emo.
Fact: Nothing good ever came from being emo.
-way to arrogant and overconfident
-expects everybody to give him power
-his "I'm more special than you" line
-emo (sort of)
I hate Sasuke he's just so annoying and power driven and all that kill Itachi stuff is so wierd
There's at least 50 more where that came from but i'm not waisting time putting them all

[shinobi4000]

ugh. the one person i hate is sasuke. why? cause he's a jerk. and then his reason for revenge on both the vilage and itachi is stupid. and then whenver i hear, read or say his name, this song goes on in my head. dang

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

sauske hater have to agree the fight between sauske and naruto was the best fight in the orignal sereis.

yea that fight was amazing
Yep. Sasuke got his butt handed to him on a silver platter for 1/3 of the fight!

[NARUTARD93]

I liked that one filler episode where that jonin guy kicked Sasuke's ass with the thunder sword. 8-) :mrgreen:

[Hiro]

sasuke is AWSOME

[itasan]

*eyes dart*

Oh crap...You guys can't revive this topic now! D: Chidori-san isn't here to help me defend sasu-kun...D:

[NARUTARD93]

*eyes dart*

Oh crap...You guys can't revive this topic now! D: Chidori-san isn't here to help me defend sasu-kun...D:
That's right, now you're alone with all of us Sasuke haters. MWHAHAHAHAHA!

[Hiro]

*eyes dart*

Oh crap...You guys can't revive this topic now! D: Chidori-san isn't here to help me defend sasu-kun...D:
That's right, now you're alone with all of us Sasuke haters. MWHAHAHAHAHA!
no hes not in case you didnt read my last post SASUKE IS AWSOME

[NARUTARD93]

Really I missed that part.*eyes dart*

Oh crap...You guys can't revive this topic now! D: Chidori-san isn't here to help me defend sasu-kun...D:
That's right, now you're alone with all of us Sasuke haters. MWHAHAHAHAHA!
no hes not in case you didnt read my last post SASUKE IS STUPID!

[Hiro]

thats isnt cool twisting my words like that SASUKE IS AWESOME WHAT NOW

[NARUTARD93]

Could you please give me one reason why Sasuke is even remotely cool?

[Hiro]

hes uhhh...... hes uhhhh...... he just is there doesnt have to be a reason

[NARUTARD93]

hes uhhh...... hes uhhhh...... he just is there doesnt have to be a reason
Riiiiight, So then he sucks, because you appreantly have nothing to back your claims with.

[Hiro]

hes strong, thats a reason. i guess im just stubborn. im probably one of the few naruto fans hoping he;ll come back to konoha

[NARUTARD93]

hes strong, thats a reason. i guess im just stubborn. im probably one of the few naruto fans hoping he;ll come back to konoha
Ha! The only way he'll ever come back to Konoha is to destroy it!

[Hiro]

didnt i tell you im stuborn. i will continue hoping wether it happens or not

[iloveSasuke]

i don't hate Sasuke i love him he is so sexy sorry :P

[NARUTARD93]

i don't hate Sasuke i love him he is so sexy sorry :P
Ewwwwwwwwww. He's butt ugly compared to Kakashi. 8-)

[Hiro]

i don't hate Sasuke i love him he is so sexy sorry :P im a guy so that is not my reason for liking him

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

i don't hate Sasuke i love him he is so sexy sorry :P
Weird....... 8-) :?

[itasan]

Could you please give me one reason why Sasuke is even remotely cool?

I've got quite a few logical, fact-based ones about here somewhere. (And of course there is always his ridiculous sexyness...x3)

Chidori-san also made some amazing arguments in dispute of why you guys all hate him. So, you give me a reason that we haven't already combated. ;D

[NARUTARD93]

Could you please give me one reason why Sasuke is even remotely cool?

I've got quite a few logical, fact-based ones about here somewhere. (And of course there is always his ridiculous sexyness...x3)

Chidori-san also made some amazing arguments in dispute of why you guys all hate him. So, you give me a reason that we haven't already combated. ;D
I've already defend my reasons. If you give me some time, I'll try and dig 'em up for you.

[itasan]

Could you please give me one reason why Sasuke is even remotely cool?

I've got quite a few logical, fact-based ones about here somewhere. (And of course there is always his ridiculous sexyness...x3)

Chidori-san also made some amazing arguments in dispute of why you guys all hate him. So, you give me a reason that we haven't already combated. ;D
I've already defend my reasons. If you give me some time, I'll try and dig 'em up for you.

I actually think we may have covered every facet to sasu-kun...I'm not sure there's any new debate we could squeeze out of this....:?

[NARUTARD93]

I actually think we may have covered every facet to sasu-kun...I'm not sure there's any new debate we could squeeze out of this....:?[/quote]
Except for his looks. I don't think we''ve covered how ugly he is yet.

[Hiro]

even though im a sasuke fan he does need to do something about his hair

[itasan]

even though im a sasuke fan he does need to do something about his hair

*snaps fingers*

Alright, I've got one!

Everyone says it looks like a duck's butt, right? Well, aren't rear ends supposed to be one of the things you stare at on a hott guy/girl? The fact that his hair is a butt proves his ultimate sexiness.

>D

[Hiro]

wow never thought of that that is reasonable care to counter narutard gotta go

[NARUTARD93]

even though im a sasuke fan he does need to do something about his hair

*snaps fingers*

Alright, I've got one!

Everyone says it looks like a duck's butt, right? Well, aren't rear ends supposed to be one of the things you stare at on a hott guy/girl? The fact that his hair is a butt proves his ultimate sexiness.

>D
Why would you want to stare at the back when its the front you're more intrested in? Unless you're gay, like Sasuke. 8-)

[itasan]

even though im a sasuke fan he does need to do something about his hair

*snaps fingers*

Alright, I've got one!

Everyone says it looks like a duck's butt, right? Well, aren't rear ends supposed to be one of the things you stare at on a hott guy/girl? The fact that his hair is a butt proves his ultimate sexiness.

>D
Why would you want to stare at the back when its the front you're more intrested in? Unless you're gay, like Sasuke. 8-)

Personally I haven't got a clue...That's always the thing though...*shrug*

*straining not to fangirl over gay sasuke comment*

Must...control...self....

[NARUTARD93]

Oops, sorry, I'll try not to make any fangirl cracks, I get it all the time from my friends. 8-)

[itasan]

Oops, sorry, I'll try not to make any fangirl cracks, I get it all the time from my friends. 8-)

I am so pathetically fangirl. xDD

[NARUTARD93]

Oops, sorry, I'll try not to make any fangirl cracks, I get it all the time from my friends. 8-)

I am so pathetically fangirl. xDD
Me too when it comes to my man. But he's not the topic of discussion, So shall I continue to rip on Sasuke?

[itasan]

Oops, sorry, I'll try not to make any fangirl cracks, I get it all the time from my friends. 8-)

I am so pathetically fangirl. xDD
Me too when it comes to my man. But he's not the topic of discussion, So shall I continue to rip on Sasuke?

I'm guessing...Kakashi? ;DD

Alright. Go ahead. 8-) <--my confidence. xD

[NARUTARD93]

How'd ya guess? Anyways, I think Sasuke is a little on the gay side because he seriously went to that Micheal Jackson renicarnation Orochimaru.

[itasan]

How'd ya guess? Anyways, I think Sasuke is a little on the gay side because he seriously went to that Micheal Jackson renicarnation Orochimaru.

No!!! You can't use that as an argument for his gayness! D: Bad, bad!

Went to rochi to use him, nothing more, end of story. He never intended to join to his scemes, nor join to him in anyother way, shape or form. *pout*

[Sensei : Riku Arashi]

i like sasuke he's deadly and he killed orochimaru then absorbed him

[KrInArD]

i like sasuke he's deadly and he killed orochimaru then absorbed him

i dont like sasuke because after all naruto and the leaf village has done for him he casts him aside as if they were nothing i will admit i did like sasuke until he left the leaf village and when naruto finally finds him he tries to destroy naruto and sakura and its sad that no matter what naruto will not give up on him

[Sensei : Riku Arashi]

i like sasuke he's deadly and he killed orochimaru then absorbed him

i dont like sasuke because after all naruto and the leaf village has done for him he casts him aside as if they were nothing i will admit i did like sasuke until he left the leaf village and when naruto finally finds him he tries to destroy naruto and sakura and its sad that no matter what naruto will not give up on him

yeah that is something i don't like about him but i still like him

[KrInArD]

i like sasuke he's deadly and he killed orochimaru then absorbed him

i dont like sasuke because after all naruto and the leaf village has done for him he casts him aside as if they were nothing i will admit i did like sasuke until he left the leaf village and when naruto finally finds him he tries to destroy naruto and sakura and its sad that no matter what naruto will not give up on him

yeah that is something i don't like about him but i still like him

i dont like him but im not gona lie he is a badass haha

[Taker369]

theres really no point in going on people love to hate sauske and theres fans who love him thats the way anime works.

[KrInArD]

theres really no point in going on people love to hate sauske and theres fans who love him thats the way anime works.

and thats what makes a successful anime when you have a sense of emotion towards the characters

[Konoha'sGreenThunder]

I hate him..He's annoying, arrogant, his hair is annoying..He needs sense beat into him. Annoying. =)

[KrInArD]

I hate him..He's annoying, arrogant, his hair is annoying..He needs sense beat into him. Annoying. =)

why dont you tell us how you really feel about sasuke haha jk jk jk

[itasan]

I hate him..He's annoying, arrogant, his hair is annoying..He needs sense beat into him. Annoying. =)

Statement in bold has my complete support, as a sasu supporter

[Konoha'sGreenThunder]

That's probably the only thing Sasu-haters and Sasu-supporters agree on. =) (At least some.)

[Taker369]

the fact is if naruto didnt have the nine tailed fox inside him he would have died against sauske .

[Konoha'sGreenThunder]

the fact is if naruto didnt have the nine tailed fox inside him he would have died against sauske .

The same goes for Sasuke and his curse-mark.

[Taker369]

i'll give u that one.

[TheViolletteHeart]

the fact is if naruto didnt have the nine tailed fox inside him he would have died against sauske .

If Naruto didn't have the nine tails fox, a lot of the series would be pointless.

[KrInArD]

the fact is if naruto didnt have the nine tailed fox inside him he would have died against sauske .

If Naruto didn't have the nine tails fox, a lot of the series would be pointless.

yeah and everybody in the show seems to have a special ability similar to naruto so i mean you take away his nine tailed fox ability hes just an average ninja and would be quite boring they needed something to make him powerful enough to stop his enemies in the future

[Obito]

Sasuke seriously needs to stop fixing on the revenge of Itachi, it's gonna get him killed.

[KrInArD]

Sasuke seriously needs to stop fixing on the revenge of Itachi, it's gonna get him killed.

sasuke kills itachi and realizes that his brother spared him out of love and now joined up with the akatsuki to destroy the leaf village because the leaf ordered itachi to wipe out the uchiha clan

[Obito]

But still, it's dangerous training for something you're after when something is after you.

[Hidan]

But still, it's dangerous training for something you're after when something is after you.

Who are you talking about, Naruto?

[KrInArD]

But still, it's dangerous training for something you're after when something is after you.

Who are you talking about, Naruto?

i think so and if he is hes right its extremely hard to do it

[Obito]

Could be Naruto, could be someone else, never know.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

Bored...... :roll: :? 8-)

[Obito]

Same :|

[Konoha'sGreenThunder]

When Sasuke dies, that duck is going to fly off to inhabit someone else's head.

[Obito]

Duck? You refering Sasuke as a duck? :|

[Konoha'sGreenThunder]

Duck? You refering Sasuke as a duck? :|

No, silly, his hair!

[Obito]

Dude, you're confusing.... Just confusing me so bad right now :|

[Konoha'sGreenThunder]

Dude, you're confusing.... Just confusing me so bad right now :|

I was calling his hair a duck. =)

[Obito]

That's kinda true, ROFL! Now that I noticed it, Sasuke's hair looks like a duck.

[Tyrande]

Sasuke is so nice :DD

[Obito]

:mrgreen: Hey love :mrgreen:

[Heroescomeback99]

i hate sasuke because he leaves the village and tries to kill naruto

[JMLapaxSF]

i hate Sasuke.

so arrogant.

too arrogant.

very arrogant.

especially the "avenger,avenger thing.."

[deidara330]

Sasuke=EVIL.

[Black King]

i hate Sasuke.

so arrogant.

too arrogant.

very arrogant.

especially the "avenger,avenger thing.."
I now declare Sasuke's nickname Mr.Avengeravengerthing! xD

[Itachi-Sama]

Sasuke's alright; not my favorite though.

[itasan]

Sasuke=EVIL.

Now that's just cruel!

i hate Sasuke.

so arrogant.

too arrogant.

very arrogant.

especially the "avenger,avenger thing.."
I now declare Sasuke's nickname Mr.Avengeravengerthing! xD

Better than some of his other nicknames. ;DD

[JMLapaxSF]

Sasuke=EVIL.

Now that's just cruel!

i hate Sasuke.

so arrogant.

too arrogant.

very arrogant.

especially the "avenger,avenger thing.."
I now declare Sasuke's nickname Mr.Avengeravengerthing! xD

Better than some of his other nicknames. ;DD


LOL! :lol:

[NARUTARD93]

Orochimaru+Sasuke= gay fanboy dreams come true

[Chibi Gaara]

Orochimaru+Sasuke= gay fanboy dreams come true

I would say I have to agree. I was bored and was looking up Yuri Lowenthal voice characters he has done, who is Sasuke's voice and appearently he did voice in Veggie Tales. Now we say that Sasuke is walking, talking vegetable.

Other wise, my main reason y don't like Sasuke that much:
1. His hair is a duck butt
2. He goes shirtless too many time in Shippuden series
3. His new outfit reminds me of an Mexican Pirate
4. He is to obessed with revenge
5. Only cares about himself
6. Only left the Leaf Village to go after a guy who looks too much like Micheal Jackson
7. Also, he is annoying