Sasuke and Itachi vs Alakazam and Gardevoir

[topchef]

The fight takes place at a Taco Bell in Nevada.

Everyone is bloodlusted

Who wins?

[Noctis Arashi]

Alakazam solos. Fairly hard IIRC.

[Kananda]

Pokemon are too broken to lose

[NINE-TAILS-BIJU]

Sasuke And Itachi will win, they use susanno'o and ameratsu and burn them

[topchef]

Sorry for making this thread then lol

[Kakashi Hatake_Yamato]

Uchihas get mind raped.

[NINE-TAILS-BIJU]

they can't get mind raped since the sharingan can see through the illusion

[Noctis Arashi]

It's not a matter of illusion. It's Alakazam literally psychically lobotomizing them so they forget how to even throw a shuriken.

[NINE-TAILS-BIJU]

Not unless itachi already casted the genjutsu before they did it

[Kananda]

Don't forget about the Psychic Pokemon's defence mechanisms like Calm Mind, ect

[Kakashi Hatake_Yamato]

Genjutsu is useless against them.

[TRcommander]

Alakazam turns them into dolls for Sabrina to play with.

[Devils Lawyer]

No Alkazam gets straight blitzed. It can teleport but for the most part pokemon in general basic movements are slow.Not only that saying the sharigan can't fight it is a no Sasuke has invaded minds, has shown mindcontrol, and both have stopped body jacking. That easily meets all the requirements of a mind battle. Alkazam powers are weak he is no mew or mew two.

[Frost ninja]

Alakazam gets blitzed how, exactly?
Its speed stat is quite high... Looking at it, in fact, its higher than Pidgeot whom can fly mach 4. Its actually tied with Arceus, whom has crossed galaxies in suprising time... Rayquaza, Entei, Raikou, and Suicune are also quite a bit slower, all of them showing casual ability to cross the country/region of Hoenn in a very short amount of time.

The fact that he may not exhibit his super speed doesn't mean he doesn't have it, especially when he gets detect/protect as an attack. And finally no, a 5000 IQ psychic pokemon capable in a lesser form of outright mindraping and reality warping. Future Sight is feated to give him limited precog, he has recover to get back some of his health, and don't get me started on disable hax.

Oro's jutsu is one thing since its an invading body of chakra. However, Sharingan can't stop actual mindrapes. It can stop someone from attacking your senses, perhaps. But a mindrape? Get that wankery out of here, he hasn't been shown to have any form of defense for anything within his own mind as Oro's body-jack was within his own realm accessed via poison smoke. Even sharingan has been shown to faulter under genjutsus or attacks that are either too fast to react to or too powerful to overcome, example of Itachi beating Sasuke and Kakashi's sharingans via very powerful genjutsu.

A psychic attack from Alakazam is leagues ahead of anything they've ever experienced, if they aren't already reality warped into dolls and then BFR'd out via teleport.

[Frost ninja]

No one mentions Izanagi? For shame. Sasuke and Itachi would obliterate the pokemon. Too much swagger.

You have to trigger it, and neither Itachi nor Sasuke have shown to be able to use it.
Izanami works on the weak willed, but against a 5k IQ pokemon whom is faster than continent running pokemon, they won't have a chance to use it nor would it be effective.

Uchihas have the swagger of a cripple.

[Devils Lawyer]

Alakazam gets blitzed how, exactly?
Its speed stat is quite high... Looking at it, in fact, its higher than Pidgeot whom can fly mach 4. Its actually tied with Arceus, whom has crossed galaxies in suprising time... Rayquaza, Entei, Raikou, and Suicune are also quite a bit slower, all of them showing casual ability to cross the country/region of Hoenn in a very short amount of time.

The fact that he may not exhibit his super speed doesn't mean he doesn't have it, especially when he gets detect/protect as an attack. And finally no, a 5000 IQ psychic pokemon capable in a lesser form of outright mindraping and reality warping. Future Sight is feated to give him limited precog, he has recover to get back some of his health, and don't get me started on disable hax.

Oro's jutsu is one thing since its an invading body of chakra. However, Sharingan can't stop actual mindrapes. It can stop someone from attacking your senses, perhaps. But a mindrape? Get that wankery out of here, he hasn't been shown to have any form of defense for anything within his own mind as Oro's body-jack was within his own realm accessed via poison smoke. Even sharingan has been shown to faulter under genjutsus or attacks that are either too fast to react to or too powerful to overcome, example of Itachi beating Sasuke and Kakashi's sharingans via very powerful genjutsu.

A psychic attack from Alakazam is leagues ahead of anything they've ever experienced, if they aren't already reality warped into dolls and then BFR'd out via teleport.
As far as speed goes both Gai, Lee, Sasuke, A and the cast as a whole casually side steps mach four. Lee ripped the ground to shreds in part 1. It's already been established since then that the main characters(Sasuke and Itachi) as whole should be a lot faster.

Next throwing numbers is pointless. The fact pokemon and humans with a strong will or outside interference breaks such attacks without telepathic powers shows it's level is not that impressive overall. It is a extremely fragile ability. Only legendary pokemon had the hax you are talking about.

Now as far as the sharigan goes. Itachi can literally go in someones head and control their perception of time. That is a straight up mindrape Sasuke straight up blocked it with his sharigan. Blocking or rejecting such attacks is a defense. What the hell else it. The only wanking going on is alakazam's power. Most telepathic pokemon aside from the legendary ones are crappy. They are easily broken. The sharigan you actually need something powerful to break. The fact you have use other sharigan users for example proves my point.

[Sir Michael]

Pokemon get haxraped.

[Frost ninja]

As far as speed goes both Gai, Lee, Sasuke, A and the cast as a whole casually side steps mach four. Lee ripped the ground to shreds in part 1. It's already been established since then that the main characters(Sasuke and Itachi) as whole should be a lot faster.


Just under hypersonic? Show me some feats of sasuke moving anywhere near that, as to my recollection he was being outsped completely by A whom is possibly borderline hyper, but was not at that time. Tearing the ground to shreads is power, but Guy and Lee are also never shown to be hypersonic in movement. So no, almost no one in the cast sidesteps the border between supersonic+ and hypersonic, which begins at mach 5.

Next throwing numbers is pointless. The fact pokemon and humans with a strong will or outside interference breaks such attacks without telepathic powers shows it's level is not that impressive overall. It is a extremely fragile ability. Only legendary pokemon had the hax you are talking about.

Example me some times in which someone without any form of powers was able to break something on a level of alakazam, as an abra was mass reality warping a village because it was trying to take a nap.


Now as far as the sharigan goes. Itachi can literally go in someones head and control their perception of time. That is a straight up mindrape

Thats attacking their senses via manipulating how long they believe something is taking. We can do that as humans through basic manipulation of sight. A watched pot never boils. All humans are capable of mindrape? ok.

Mindrape would be MAYBE izanami if he can manage to use it, and even then thats simply a mental trick based on ones own percieved faults and their ability to accept them. I don't think it'll really keep long on a pokemon with a 5000 IQ whom can probably figure out whats going on within the first instant he is in it and auto-break, if he hasn't already rapestomped the uchihas into a vegetative state after morphing them into whatever he feels like and teleporting them into the upper atmosphere.


Sasuke straight up blocked it with his sharigan.

Yes, the sharingan is made to block attacks to your senses.

Blocking or rejecting such attacks is a defense. What the hell else it. The only wanking going on is alakazam's power.

Its a defence against attacks to your senses, yes. It doesn't do anything to protect your actual brain, which bypasses the eyes completely. Rather, it protects against what it sees. It can't protect against something that just outright goes past it.

Most telepathic pokemon aside from the legendary ones are crappy.

Opinion, I find precog and high-hypersonic reactions and possibly movement on top of mass reality warping, mind rape, and BFR potential to be quite nice.

They are easily broken. The sharigan you actually need something powerful to break. The fact you have use other sharigan users for example proves my point.

Not at all. Name me one instance where Sasuke has defended against something that outright bypassed his ability to see and attacked him. Oh right, he can't defend against taijutsu users he can't keep track of (I.E. part 1 Lee and A), showing the sharingan is only useful against what it can see.

Now tell me how he defends against something that ignores his eyes and directly attacks his mind. Something his eyes can't see.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

they can't get mind raped since the sharingan can see through the illusion

because the Sharingan can see through any type of telapthy because you say so?

an Alakazam briefly stood up to a Pokemon who who was telepathically putting an entire planet in danger...and you think some dumbass magical eyeball dojutsu is going to save him from being turned into a gibbering retard?

Not unless itachi already casted the genjutsu before they did it

you can go ahead and prove that Itachi is faster than him right? Because "UCHIHAS WIN ALL FIGHTZ!!" isn't an accepted claim here

No one mentions Izanagi? For shame. Sasuke and Itachi would obliterate the pokemon. Too much swagger.

lol at this kid implying Uchiha have swagger

listen guy Sasuke is an emotional cripple and a psychotic man child he's got about as much swag as a hot topic model (IE none)

and Itachi was a total moron who's one noble decision resulted in the rising of Konohas greatest threat

Pokemon get haxraped.

boy I hope you don't mean all pokemon in general because at least two can create universes

that'd haxrape the piss and viniger out of the entire naruto universe

[Rouge Uchiha18]

I so say Itachi and Sasuke. Can anything break there awsome susano'o jutsu? No. And two pokemon against the two strongest uchiha's except Madara and Obito. There are like sooo dead.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

I so say Itachi and Sasuke. Can anything break there awsome susano'o jutsu? No. And two pokemon against the two strongest uchiha's except Madara and Obito. There are like sooo dead.

Lots of things can casually break everything the ucjiha have

Sorry but your emo eyeball nazis aren't very impressive

[Ultimate combatant]

I know about the Alakazam but can someone remind me what the other guy can do?!! :D

[Noctis Arashi]

Basically, lower scale alakazam.

Gardevoir can sense the feelings of people and other Pokemon. It can also see the future clearly. Gardevoir has the psychokinetic power to distort the dimensions and create a small black hole, in order to protect its Trainer. Apparently, Gardevoir does not feel the pull of gravity because it supports itself with psychic power. It also has the power to teleport. In addition to Psychic-type moves, Gardevoir can also learn moves of a variety of types, such as Energy Ball, Thunderbolt, Focus Blast, Shadow Ball, and Charge Beam. As a fully evolved Pokemon it can also learn Hyper Beam and Giga Impact.

Bulbapedia. :lol:

[321zigzag3]

The game, manga, and anime really don't utilize the full potential of psychic pokemon especially Alakazam's.

If you go strictly by what they have shown they aren't that great in comparison. But if you allow all sorts of things. In theory they are pretty immensly dangerous.

Also Mewtwo is not planetary level if I recall rather regional, it was supposedly a dub error.

now to be fair depending on what Alakazam does he can solo. Key phrase depending on what he does.

[Devils Lawyer]

Not at all. Name me one instance where Sasuke has defended against something that outright bypassed his ability to see and attacked him. Oh right, he can't defend against taijutsu users he can't keep track of (I.E. part 1 Lee and A), showing the sharingan is only useful against what it can see.

Now tell me how he defends against something that ignores his eyes and directly attacks his mind. Something his eyes can't see.

Lol about speed. You do realize Sasuke was dodging point blank explosions from Deidara casually. Mind you the attack is clearly real time c4 manga style. Clay bombs in can detonate a velocities of 8000 m/s or more. Not only that the frs that crossed the crater should be mach 5 casually. People including A dodge those like regular shuriken. Also no A didnt wreck Sasuke in speed he essentially pressed him with his strength.

Next alakazam doesnt reality warp that was just genjutsu. Genjutsu that is just powerful enough to fool normal human beings. Which will perceive it as real. Exactly like the crap that gets thrown around in Naruto.

Lastly you whole arguement is flawed. For the simple reason your senses are just receptors for the brain. You control the senses you are controlling the mind. Which is mindcontrol duh.

For your last example that is exactly what oro did. Sasuke completely rejected and took
his body and powers. The sharigan has mind defenses..