Dumbest Tobi Theories

[omgnoway]

Since Tobi's identity will be revealed tomorrow (HOPEFULLY) I wanna post some of the stupidest "theories" i've heard.

Future Sasuke
*LOL? yeah because future sasuke would help kill the uchiha clan (Tobi helped itachi),

Sasuke's Dad
*Valid theory IF he was alive. He would attack Konoha but Itachi killed him sorry

Shisui Uchiha
*Go kill yourself, Shisui gave his eye to itachi to protect the village, even making Itachi promise to protect it.

Ichiraku
*The Ramen guy? please stop

[Kakashi Hatake_Yamato]

eh.....thinking it will be revealed in 600.........

[Wooster]

You forgot Obito `:P

[BMC1994]

You forgot Obito `:P

^^ this and obitos mom,dad,cousin,uncle,aunt pretty much anyone directly related to obito.

And dont forget rin/kakko.

[ILIKEPIE]

don't forget the joke Tonton one

[WuTang]

I think the Zetsu theories are pretty dumb. If anything Zetsu has been an obedient subordinate of Tobi ever since we learned he was the head honcho. At least we have some evidence that he might (and I emphasize "might") be Obito. But Zetsu. The guy can't even handle himself in a fight, Sasuke kicked White Zetsu's butt.

I love this thread by the way.

[Black King]

Dude. Tobi is Genma, it's obvious. xD

[BoxHead]

I say vote for him being the spoiled milk from episode 3.

[ObitoUchiha]

Wow. Spit out my drink Boxhead....

But in all seriousness...

It's the cat they 'saved' and brought to the old lady... tiger was it?

tigers are orange with black stripes, and so was tobis old mask!

It's a conspiracy I tell you! i have discovered it!

Also, both names begin with T and have i in them!

[Wooster]

Can't discount Kishi himself breaking the fourth wall. It would be poetic.

[ObitoUchiha]

Like when Akira Toriyama showed up in Dr Slump?! AMAZING!

[Wooster]

Exactly. Or Jack Kirby being the king of all Marvel multiverses.

[ObitoUchiha]

Wow... it all makes sense!

Ok, so Masashi KishimoTo-Bi?

[Wooster]

Sure, go for it.

He is no one after. `:P

[Memitim]

Pretty sure it was like a satire thread but, I think someone on here said he was Sakura.

[ObitoUchiha]

I GOT IT (again)

Tobi.
Is.
Hayate Gekko

[lolohwd]

the cat from like one of the first episodes lol

[ObitoUchiha]

Already said that!

[ObitoUchiha]

Oh, and Tobi is Toby Turner.

Their names are both tobi/y and they both go from goofy to serious

[Bratcipheo]

All but mine.

[ObitoUchiha]

Ok, Tobi is actually....
the curry of life.... itself!

It became human, one cold night....

It was made by Kakashi, and went to waste... Neji never finished his...

Struck by lightning, it stood. Those in the village it was made were never heard from.

It grew, and became anthropomorphic, eventually donned a mask, and seeked revenge.

It played happy, not realizing akatsuki, aka red cloud, was an evil organization. He thought it was a play area!

After a while, he realized he was wrong... his eyes grew in, and he saw the errors he made.

He donned a new mask, declared war, and finally met Kakashi.

Let the battle begin

[MinatoXNaruto]

I thought Tobi was Menma

[BoxHead]

Oh my God. I know who he is.

He's Konohamaru's box.

That explains why the Kamui dimension is filled with them.

Will you DARE to try to say my conclusion is questionable?

[ObitoUchiha]

Oh my God. I know who he is.

He's Konohamaru's box.

That explains why the Kamui dimension is filled with them.

Will you DARE to try to say my conclusion is questionable?

I literally lol'd.

Quite a bit.

Not literally ROFL'ing, but possibly laughing enough to say it.

so, Rofl.

[ObitoUchiha]

AHA!!

I thought I knew it before!
I was wrong! I have it now!
No mistaking it!

It is none other than...
MONKEY KING ENMA!!!!
Or Mr Golden Magic Monkey....

[paradigm1977]

Well the good ones present some kind of dramatic tension that was or could have been at least hinted at already.

Obito, Kakko and Rin have that possibility for kakashi.

Zetsu clone has the "shell of my former self" that could be literal.Perhaps he was a pacifist who was attacked and critically wounded. Or just a copy of Madara and knows he is not even a real/natural person.

WORST
Kagami, Izuna- no dramatic relation to a main character. Just a Uchiha that can allow Kishi to make up a random history lesson on the fly that won't tie in to any of the current characters.

[Kurama-]

Tobi is Minato

He faked his death and become Tobi

Tobi's first appearance was the day Minato died and the only people who seen Tobi that night was Minato and Kushina.

The only people who knew the location of Obito's sharingan was Rin, Kakashi and Minato.

Orochimaru's Edo Tensei did not work was because Minato was still alive.

He wishes to follow Jiraiya Sensei's destiny of obtaining true piece.

He knows the only way to achieve true peace is by uniting the 5 countries in war, He needs an enemy powerful enough to start a war that big so chooses to be the villain himself and chooses his own son Naruto to save the world.
^Sounds like something Minatobi would do

[Maruko]

Obito theory is as stupid as future Sasuke.
I said it dozens of times...I'll quit manga in general if Kishi pulls such a thing.

[Crystal Marionette]

Dude, who says Tobi can't be Hashirama with a wig and eye transplants, eh?

[ObitoUchiha]

Obviously gaara. He was a jinchuuiki

[mrsticky005]

All but mine.

Nope.

Tobito is still an incredibly dumb theory.
However it just happens to be the CORRECT theory.

[Bratcipheo]

Nope.

Tobito is still an incredibly dumb theory.
However it just happens to be the CORRECT theory.

Thats simply illogical. If i analyzed the manga and ended up right, it must be because I did it right. I know, i know. You guys like to believe that we are all equally skilled at doing that, but thats just not how it is.
What I am saying is: You dont have the necessary skills to analyze it properly and therefore predict it. It seems dumb to you, it seems like luck.
But it isn't.

Unfortunately you will never agree, since agreeing would mean that you're intellectual inferior, which isn't human nature to do. Also, how could you agree, if you cannot see the logic in it in the first place?
It's a real dilemma, it is.

But isn't it odd, i mean isn't it odd that im the person who was right? I continuously stated that if i were wrong, that I would be intellectual inferior and dumb, that i analyzed the story wrong then and people could quote me on that. I've said that countless of times. I've asked other people to do it, yet they didnt. They said that IF I really would end up right, it would be up to luck or other excuses. They didn't wanna gamble. I never changed my theory either, only expanded it.
Isn't it also odd that I'm the only self proclaimed 'story development' prof here, because thats what im majoring in? Incredible arrogant, i know, but do this all the time. Most of you are just kids living with their parents, thinking they know this and that. Im studying this crap. Isn't it odd, that ME the arrogant guy ended up right? And even in the exact form that i predicted?
This wasn't up to chance, this was set up from the beginning, all rules in story building supported this. But i cant just purr that knowledge into your heads, i can try, but i failed.

Bottom line is, I was right and how will you react to this?Denial or acceptance?

[ObitoUchiha]

Nope.

Tobito is still an incredibly dumb theory.
However it just happens to be the CORRECT theory.

Im a dumb theory

[paradigm1977]

But isn't it odd, i mean isn't it odd that im the person who was right?

Isn't it also odd that I'm the only self proclaimed 'story development' prof here, because thats what im majoring in? Incredible arrogant, i know, but do this all the time.

This wasn't up to chance, this was set up from the beginning, all rules in story building supported this. But i cant just purr that knowledge into your heads, i can try, but i failed.

Bottom line is, I was right and how will you react to this?Denial or acceptance?

Wow, you really sold out the other Tobi theorists who also had the same conclusion. Did you realize that while Tobi was the most hated theory, it was also the most popular in support?

You put in the most work, easily, but others reached the same conclusions as you. Not me, for anyone else reading. There were things that supported the theory. There were things against. Both were legitimate. You focused on the things that supported your theory. If Kishi clears up the questions/issues others had, then yes, you had the knowledge and the confidence and it is as you say. However, if Kishi never explains the timeline well enough to cover the relationships Obito had with Zetsu, Nagato, and Madara, then there were holes, and those that were against Obito simply lost because the writer gave plot holes. You felt the positives outweighed the negatives. You always said that.

If it was Obito in the mask fighting Minato, then I would like to know why he told Minato that it had been a long time since he was injured in a fight. It was a pointless lie. Kishi has to cover this motivation still, because it's a red flag among others, that prevented more people from agreeing with you.

[Bratcipheo]

Wow, you really sold out the other Tobi theorists who also had the same conclusion. Did you realize that while Tobi was the most hated theory, it was also the most popular in support?

You put in the most work, easily, but others reached the same conclusions as you. Not me, for anyone else reading. There were things that supported the theory. There were things against. Both were legitimate. You focused on the things that supported your theory. If Kishi clears up the questions/issues others had, then yes, you had the knowledge and the confidence and it is as you say. However, if Kishi never explains the timeline well enough to cover the relationships Obito had with Zetsu, Nagato, and Madara, then there were holes, and those that were against Obito simply lost because the writer gave plot holes. You felt the positives outweighed the negatives. You always said that.

If it was Obito in the mask fighting Minato, then I would like to know why he told Minato that it had been a long time since he was injured in a fight. It was a pointless lie. Kishi has to cover this motivation still, because it's a red flag among others, that prevented more people from agreeing with you.

Some others too, yes. I agree. But if a thousand people are shooting in the dark, some will hit right? Honestly some of the pro Tobito people over the years have been among the dumbest. Yes, I'm saying they were lucky.Not all, but most.

The rest you said I agree with. But i must conclude that the plotholes aren't plotholes, I believe that from the second we saw Tobi it was Obito in Kishis mind.
Thats fine and good. I like that. But if he was so dumb to make plotholes in such a important thing, i will have to agree that he's a bad writer.
But since i don't think that he is, i knew the theory would be correct and there would be no plotholes.
Lets see.

[mrsticky005]

Thats simply illogical. If i analyzed the manga and ended up right, it must be because I did it right. I know, i know. You guys like to believe that we are all equally skilled at doing that, but thats just not how it is.
What I am saying is: You dont have the necessary skills to analyze it properly and therefore predict it. It seems dumb to you, it seems like luck.
But it isn't.

Unfortunately you will never agree, since agreeing would mean that you're intellectual inferior, which isn't human nature to do. Also, how could you agree, if you cannot see the logic in it in the first place?
It's a real dilemma, it is.

But isn't it odd, i mean isn't it odd that im the person who was right? I continuously stated that if i were wrong, that I would be intellectual inferior and dumb, that i analyzed the story wrong then and people could quote me on that. I've said that countless of times. I've asked other people to do it, yet they didnt. They said that IF I really would end up right, it would be up to luck or other excuses. They didn't wanna gamble. I never changed my theory either, only expanded it.
Isn't it also odd that I'm the only self proclaimed 'story development' prof here, because thats what im majoring in? Incredible arrogant, i know, but do this all the time. Most of you are just kids living with their parents, thinking they know this and that. Im studying this crap. Isn't it odd, that ME the arrogant guy ended up right? And even in the exact form that i predicted?
This wasn't up to chance, this was set up from the beginning, all rules in story building supported this. But i cant just purr that knowledge into your heads, i can try, but i failed.

Bottom line is, I was right and how will you react to this?Denial or acceptance?


You clearly didn't understand what I was saying.

I never said you were WRONG about Tobi being Obito.
I actually said you were CORRECT about Tobi being Obito.

I said Tobi being Obito is stupid.
Until KISHI proves otherwise I stand by what I say.


Here let me put it this way.
If you think Fugaku being Tobi is stupid
then Obito being Tobi is stupid as well.

[mrsticky005]

Im a dumb theory

Yes and a ruined character :p

Unless Kishi proves otherwise. ;)

Which I doubt. :(

[Bratcipheo]

You clearly didn't understand what I was saying.

I never said you were WRONG about Tobi being Obito.
I actually said you were CORRECT about Tobi being Obito.

I said Tobi being Obito is stupid.
Until KISHI proves otherwise I stand by what I say.


Here let me put it this way.
If you think Fugaku being Tobi is stupid
then Obito being Tobi is stupid as well.

I guess my problem with this is, that my biggest factor in predicting this, is because Obito would be the best choice.
I am saying that obito would be the coolest character and it would create the best story, had it been my manga, i would have done exactly the same.

So since I partly predicted the manga like this, you're essentially saying that what i thought would be best for the manga, was stupid. Which I just cant agree with.

Thats like saying that Jon snow should stay a bastard because you'd like that story better instead of a revelation.

[mrsticky005]

I guess my problem with this is, that my biggest factor in predicting this, is because Obito would be the best choice.
I am saying that obito would be the coolest character and it would create the best story, had it been my manga, i would have done exactly the same.

So since I partly predicted the manga like this, you're essentially saying that what i thought would be best for the manga, was stupid. Which I just cant agree with.

Thats like saying that Jon snow should stay a bastard because you'd like that story better instead of a revelation.

Who's Jon Snow??? bo.o"


Actually I think if YOU wrote Naruto and you made Tobi as Obito
I could actually see it being a good twist and making sense.
Honestly I think you thought the theory through more than Kishi himself.


I don't have as much faith in Kishimoto's writing.
And that's not something I just decided. There's plenty more
in Naruto that has left a bad taste in my mouth.

Itachi and Sasuke vs Kabuto comes to mind. That was garbage.

[Naruto321]

Who's Jon Snow??? bo.o"




You need to watch TV more. :lol:

Jon Snow is a character from the Game Of Thrones

[mrsticky005]

You need to watch TV more. :lol:

Jon Snow is a character from the Game Of Thrones

I have A TV but I don't get TV. Not even local channel.

Still I bet you Jon Snow was better done than Tobito will be.

[Glass Pineapples]

I think I remember some people thinking he was Tobirama <.<

I honestly thought he was Jimi Hendrix.

[Bratcipheo]

Who's Jon Snow??? bo.o"


Actually I think if YOU wrote Naruto and you made Tobi as Obito
I could actually see it being a good twist and making sense.
Honestly I think you thought the theory through more than Kishi himself.


I don't have as much faith in Kishimoto's writing.
And that's not something I just decided. There's plenty more
in Naruto that has left a bad taste in my mouth.

Itachi and Sasuke vs Kabuto comes to mind. That was garbage.

Heh :)

Jon Snow

Careful guys, its just a theory, but all in those forums agree. I wont tell that here, it really would be a spoiler. Well, unless, unless you wanna know.

[Vivi]

Since Tobi's identity will be revealed tomorrow (HOPEFULLY) I wanna post some of the stupidest "theories" i've heard.

Future Sasuke
*LOL? yeah because future sasuke would help kill the uchiha clan (Tobi helped itachi),

Sasuke's Dad
*Valid theory IF he was alive. He would attack Konoha but Itachi killed him sorry

Shisui Uchiha
*Go kill yourself, Shisui gave his eye to itachi to protect the village, even making Itachi promise to protect it.

Ichiraku
*The Ramen guy? please stop


Invalid point.


And I hope you know Ichiraku was a joke not serious.

Anyway dumbest I read:
Konohamaru from future.

[paradigm1977]

Who's Jon Snow??? bo.o"


Actually I think if YOU wrote Naruto and you made Tobi as Obito
I could actually see it being a good twist and making sense.
Honestly I think you thought the theory through more than Kishi himself.


I don't have as much faith in Kishimoto's writing.
And that's not something I just decided. There's plenty more
in Naruto that has left a bad taste in my mouth.

Itachi and Sasuke vs Kabuto comes to mind. That was garbage.

Good post. Reply Brat. Do you belive that some of the mythology you pointed to as a part of your obito theory, was what kishi was thinking? Or he's a huge kakashi fan, and and that was the true motivation.

Did you overthink it, and still end up right?

[ObitoUchiha]

o.o Still going on dumb theories, even though I know who it is.

It. Is. The Uchiha Cat Lady.