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mrsticky005
08-27-2012, 10:55 PM
Danzo has

All ten Izanagi eyes already UNSEALED
Shisui's Eye (active)
Every other Danzo techique
Reanimation abilities---

Since Izanagi and Reanimation is kind of redundant what happens when
Danzo uses Izanagi is that he cancel out any ninjutsu/taijutsu/fuinjutsu used on him within the one minute per eye time frame. To make it simple if Danzo uses one eye for Izanagi then for one minute it will be impossible to seal Danzo. Genjutsu at MS level or above still works on Danzo

Danzo wins if he kills all four Kage: Tsunade, Onoki, A, Gaara and Mei.

lolohwd
08-27-2012, 11:17 PM
Correct me if im wrong(which i probably am) but none of the kage has show any sealing abilities. since Danzo is reanimated the only way to defeat him for good would be sealing. which wont happen if they cant seal him

PrinceofPeace
08-27-2012, 11:53 PM
Danzo stomps. They have no way of sealing him

The only way they can win if somehow Garra can restrain his movements with his sand

Godaime Kazekage
08-28-2012, 10:16 AM
Correct me if im wrong(which i probably am) but none of the kage has show any sealing abilities. since Danzo is reanimated the only way to defeat him for good would be sealing. which wont happen if they cant seal him

Ummm...Gaara...He's sealed 3 Kage and a clone of Madara already.

This battle takes place where the Kages are fighting Madara right?

Gaara and Onoki lift everyone into the air. Gaara spams Sand Hail until the ten minute limit is reached. Onoki and Mei can add their longe range attacks if they feel like it. Tsuande pumps Gaara full of chakra if he gets tired. After the 10 minutes is up Gaara seals Danzo.

I'm just posting this in advance as well: Please don't say Kotoamatsukami GG- It's not as powerful as everyone makes it out to be, it works by subtle suggestions/phantom experiences so no one is going to be doing anything ridiculously OOC like trying to kill another Kage and if they do there are the four other Kage to break them out of the genjutsu. The Kages all have knowledge of it as well.

P.S. The thread says 4 other Kage, but at the bottom you include Tsunade, Gaara, Mei, Onoki and A-that's 5.

BMC1994
08-28-2012, 02:19 PM
Danzo has no attacks that one of the kages cant tank they simply have to kill him 11 times sounds like no problem for a nearly as fast as teleportation, Particle Dismatling, acid-lava sptting, and sandstorm-wave-tsunami summoning team.

PrinceofPeace
08-28-2012, 02:45 PM
Ummm...Gaara...He's sealed 3 Kage and a clone of Madara already.

Gaara and Onoki lift everyone into the air. Gaara spams Sand Hail until the ten minute limit is reached. Onoki and Mei can add their longe range attacks if they feel like it. Tsuande pumps Gaara full of chakra if he gets tired. After the 10 minutes is up Gaara seals Danzo.

P.S. The thread says 4 other Kage, but at the bottom you include Tsunade, Gaara, Mei, Onoki and A-that's 5.


If it was that easy than madara would have been sealed like 10 times by now.

HOw do the kages beat Baku when none of them have fire style ninjusu.
Sand hail can seal?

Wood style can bind foes.

Wind spam

Godaime Kazekage
08-28-2012, 03:14 PM
If it was that easy than madara would have been sealed like 10 times by now.
What...? I don't know what you're going for here`:| Edo Madara>>>>>>>>>>Danzo and has counters for the strategy that I posted above.

HOw do the kages beat Baku when none of them have fire style ninjusu.
Giant Sand Tsunami, Lava to the face, Dust Release, Katsuyu, Tsunade punches it...the list goes on...It's also possible that Onoki and Mei have fire style jutsus because they both have fire chakra natures.

Sand hail can seal?
No. the purpose of the sand hail is to make Danzo keep Izanagi active. Gaara then seals him after the 10 mins. are up. Did you even read my post?

Wood style can bind foes.
Danzo's wood style is crap and he can't control it. How's it going to reach the Kages in the air?

Wind spam
IIRC Danzo's wind attacks didn't have that much distance to them. Even so, Raikage has lightning armor, Tsunade can tank whatever he has with Byakugo, Mei has water pillar, Gaara has auto-defense for himself and other Kage if they need it. Or they just dodge. This is assuming Danzo is even capable of wind spam after constantly being crushed and then reappearing due to the Sand Hail.


In bold.

mrsticky005
08-29-2012, 03:11 PM
Danzo has no attacks that one of the kages cant tank they simply have to kill him 11 times sounds like no problem for a nearly as fast as teleportation, Particle Dismatling, acid-lava sptting, and sandstorm-wave-tsunami summoning team.


Clearly you don't know how Izanagi works.
Please do not participate in this thread until you can explain how Izanagi works.

Wooster
08-29-2012, 03:29 PM
Even if Danzo is sealed he uses izanagi to make it not happen. None of these Kage have genjutsu of any note. So he can't really loss.

But one scenario,
Danzo takes over A with Shisui's eye. . A smashes the other three Kage with Danzo's help.

Danzo has A be his life long footstool. The end.

king kakashi
08-29-2012, 11:17 PM
^how did i know you would be here
honestly this is not a fair match with sshisuis eye
danzo can take over any kage he wants and rofl stomp the rest

JLI2infinity
08-30-2012, 01:03 AM
I was going to say the Kages win relatively easily until I saw that Danzo has Shisui's eye...Danzo takes over A and lets him go on a rampage decapitating Tsunade and killing Mei in a combo attack with one of his vacuum blasts. After that he uses Baku to suck Onoki and Gaara out the sky. None of Gaara's sand attacks will work and if Onoki tries to use jinton Danzo can just have A throw him up into the air behind them where he can use his wind techniques that will be so powerful and fast from Baku's suction they will have to focus their defense on him. Once Baku draws them in close enough A kills them too or lets Baku enjoy a meal.

Godaime Kazekage
08-30-2012, 10:17 AM
Oh dear, the Danzo wanking on this forum seems to have no end:???:

Everyone just assumes that Shisui's eye will give someone perfect control over somebody else even though it's never been shown to do that. It works as subtle suggestions, not perfect mind control. Even if he had perfect control over A (which he wouldn't) all the other Kages have to do is touch him and disrupt his chakra to end the genjutsu. A has shown himself to be the weakest/most useless of the Kage in the battle against Madara, the other Kage will be fine if he is turned.

@JLI2-that scenario is ridiculous and severely underestimates the Kage-let me change it up a bit for you. Danzo takes over A using the "all powerful eyeball", A makes a beeline for Tsunade only to decapitate a sand clone. The sand restrains him for the second or two it takes someone to touch him. The Kage then stomp on Danzo.

The way you described it is just way too farfetched- A apparently has time to decapitate Tsunade (can't do by the way), combo attack Mei, then fly over to Danzo and throw him up into the air and attack Onoki before Onoki can use a Jinton :roll:

king kakashi
08-30-2012, 10:26 AM
Danzo does not mess around with opponenets
no one knows of his abilities he would probrably take out mei and tsunade quickly with izangi
then use shisui's eye to manipulate gaara
it's childs play after this

Godaime Kazekage
08-30-2012, 10:34 AM
Danzo does not mess around with opponenets
Ummm...the Sasuke fight pretty much completely contradicts that statement.
no one knows of his abilities he would probrably take out mei and tsunade quickly with izangi
They have full knowledge of his abilities-you're forgetting that Karin was taken to Konoha and interrogated. You also need to elaborate on HOW Danzo takes out Mei and Tsunade rather than saying he just does due to Izanagi.
then use shisui's eye to manipulate gaara
it's childs play after this
What about A and Onoki? Do they just stand there?
In bold.

king kakashi
08-30-2012, 10:44 AM
danzo uses his izangi to teleport behind them before they even know what's going on
they questioned her about sasuke oro and thier plans not about thier late hokage
but that's beside the point
A and onoki will probrbly take out a few eyes but with gaara out of the picture danzo can use his elephant animal thing to suck them into attack range(not to mention wind is strong to lightning)

Godaime Kazekage
08-30-2012, 11:03 AM
danzo uses his izangi to teleport behind them before they even know what's going on
What...? Seriously...No-it doesn't work that way, the Izanagi "teleportation" only goes a few feet away from where the user was "killed". Having Izanagi does not give you FTG.
they questioned her about sasuke oro and thier plans not about thier late hokage Naturally Sasuke's fight with Danzo would come up.
but that's beside the point

A and onoki will probrbly take out a few eyes but with gaara out of the picture danzo can use his elephant animal thing to suck them into attack range(not to mention wind is strong to lightning)
Jinton. (Baku's range is also not that great and Onoki could easily stay out of it while flying.)


In bold.

king kakashi
08-30-2012, 12:01 PM
he lets tsunade punch him then he disappears and kills her same for mei
it would come up but thy would not interrogate hr over danzo's abilities
onoki could fly away A can't
with shisuis eye he can manipulate gaara into fighting onoki together they would take him down

JLI2infinity
08-30-2012, 12:05 PM
Oh dear, the Danzo wanking on this forum seems to have no end:???:

Everyone just assumes that Shisui's eye will give someone perfect control over somebody else even though it's never been shown to do that. It works as subtle suggestions, not perfect mind control. Even if he had perfect control over A (which he wouldn't) all the other Kages have to do is touch him and disrupt his chakra to end the genjutsu. A has shown himself to be the weakest/most useless of the Kage in the battle against Madara, the other Kage will be fine if he is turned.

@JLI2-that scenario is ridiculous and severely underestimates the Kage-let me change it up a bit for you. Danzo takes over A using the "all powerful eyeball", A makes a beeline for Tsunade only to decapitate a sand clone. The sand restrains him for the second or two it takes someone to touch him. The Kage then stomp on Danzo.

The way you described it is just way too farfetched- A apparently has time to decapitate Tsunade (can't do by the way), combo attack Mei, then fly over to Danzo and throw him up into the air and attack Onoki before Onoki can use a Jinton :roll:

First of all this is Shisui's MS not the normal sharingan genjutsu. The MS gives perfect control which is why he was saving it for Tobi. No one is wanking it's just that Danzo is basically given star power for a big part of this battle.

A is the most useless Kage -____- I see you're an A hater. Are you saying Tsunade fought better than A. Maybe you forgot...

A (while seeming perfectly fine against Madara clones): Tsunade you're fighting's getting sloppy even with you're healing keep that up and you'll die

-Tsunade continues throwing herself around the battlefield with several swords in her stomach-

-Tsunade gets smacked down, A turns around worried that she's going to die-

A: TSUNADE!!!!!!!

-Gets captured because he was too busy worried about her-

Mei wasn't doing so hot either considering she was the first Kage to get smacked down causing Gaara to have to turn his attention toward her after Madara's clones pimp slapped her.

So....you were saying? Tsunade can easily be decapitated. She can't even keep up with A's movements the only way she compensates in battle is by evading attacks with her medical training and using regen for the ones she can't dodge. The biggest threats are Gaara and Onoki. And you're counter strategy is equally ridiculous: not only is A too fast to be hit with Jinton what is Onoki going to do with A being 10 feet away from Mei, his jinton isn't a precise move meant for saving people it just reduces anything in the general area of the attack to dust. Gaara requires time and coordination to cleverly place his sand clone in a position to capture an opponent. He doesn't have any knowledge that Danzo has Shisui's eye or of what Izanagi does.

But I'll edit my strategy...as we've seen with Izanagi Danzo is smart with timing his attacks. He could just wait until Gaara or Onoki least expect it and then have A turn on them. There is literally nothing they can do if A becomes evil within 10 feet of them. It's an instant kill. So...the fight begins A speedblitzes and delivers a gut crushing kill shot to Danzo's stomach. Enter the first Izanagi. The Kages think he's dead, Danzo hidden in the shadows uses Koto on A. A walks over to Gaara and BOOM Lariat to the chest!!! 1 down, 4 to go. Everyone is shocked and Mei instantly retaliates with a Suiton. A flashes away. Mei jumps backward and Danzo appears and hits her in the throat before she blows acid mist in his face. Izanagi again. Onoki and Tsunade are working on A, Tsunade wants to heal Gaara. Danzo reappears throwing multiple wind shuriken at Tsunade and Onoki. Mei goes to stop them but realizes she can't move: Danzo's used his fuinjutsu. A flashes toward her and breaks her neck with a horizontal chop, another Kage down.

After that it's a 2 on 2 with Danzo and A vs. Onoki and Tsunade. Onoki definitely outclasses Danzo but thanks to the OP, Izanagi gives Danzo temporary invincibility. Danzo summons Baku and A throws Danzo in the air behind Onoki. Danzo uses the suction to make his wind techniques strong enough that Onoki has to use Rock Golems to defend against them. Onoki gets sucked into Baku before he can use a Jinton. Meanwhile A stands guard and makes sure Tsunade can't get to Baku. After that Danzo and A both kill her.

BMC1994
08-30-2012, 02:09 PM
Can danzo even focus on a before he gets chopped multiple times?

Considering Gaara/Onoki would most likely be in the air A wont even hit them.

And as onoki himself claims he can always level the whole battlefield to get rid of A.

king kakashi
08-30-2012, 02:34 PM
why would he take over A he would take gaara(flight)

Godaime Kazekage
08-30-2012, 06:19 PM
First of all this is Shisui's MS not the normal sharingan genjutsu. The MS gives perfect control which is why he was saving it for Tobi. No one is wanking it's just that Danzo is basically given star power for a big part of this battle.
I realize that, but Shisui's MS has never taken full control over anyone. The only ones it has been shown to "control" were Mifune and Itachi. In both cases the subjects were largely doing things they would've done anyway-Mifune stated he might have picked Danzo anyway and Itachi wanted to protect the leaf. Shisui's MS is like an invisible hand or voice inside someone's head pushing/tricking them into doing something. It can't make someone do something completely against their nature-it could plant the idea that the other Kage are enemies in their mind, but it wouldn't turn them into a puppet that full out attacks the other Kage and can perfectly coordinate their attacks with Danzo. Also, all of the Kage know that Danzo has Shisui's eye and are on guard, ready for the genjutsu.

A is the most useless Kage -____- I see you're an A hater. Are you saying Tsunade fought better than A. Maybe you forgot...

A (while seeming perfectly fine against Madara clones): Tsunade you're fighting's getting sloppy even with you're healing keep that up and you'll die

-Tsunade continues throwing herself around the battlefield with several swords in her stomach-

-Tsunade gets smacked down, A turns around worried that she's going to die-

A: TSUNADE!!!!!!!

-Gets captured because he was too busy worried about her-

Mei wasn't doing so hot either considering she was the first Kage to get smacked down causing Gaara to have to turn his attention toward her after Madara's clones pimp slapped her.
I'm not an A hater, I'm just stating facts that A has been the least useful in the fight against Madara. Tsunade has been leading the fight against him when Onoki's not and was actually shown taking down Susano'o. A getting distracted because he was worried about Tsunade was his problem not Tsunade's-she was in no immediate danger.

So....you were saying? Tsunade can easily be decapitated. She can't even keep up with A's movements the only way she compensates in battle is by evading attacks with her medical training and using regen for the ones she can't dodge. The biggest threats are Gaara and Onoki. And you're counter strategy is equally ridiculous: not only is A too fast to be hit with Jinton what is Onoki going to do with A being 10 feet away from Mei, his jinton isn't a precise move meant for saving people it just reduces anything in the general area of the attack to dust. Gaara requires time and coordination to cleverly place his sand clone in a position to capture an opponent. He doesn't have any knowledge that Danzo has Shisui's eye or of what Izanagi does.
When has A ever decapitated someone on his own...oh right, never. A uses punches, chops, he doesn't have a piercing/cutting attack like his dad. Seeing as Tsunade tanked a Yasaka Magatama point blank, I don't think she'll have any problems with a Lariat or whatever A uses. Since when does Gaara need "time and coordination" to use a sand clone? (Okay, I was exaggerating the sand clone, he probably wouldn't recognize Tsunade being attacked in time, but she wouldn't be decapitated by A anyway). You must have forgotten the one time Danzo used Kotoamatsukami-who was there? Oh right, all of the Kage besides Tsunade. The Kage likely all have knowledge of Izanagi as well due to Ibiki's interrogation of Karin and even if they didn't it would only work as a surprise once which wouldn't be really helpful since most of the Kage use ranged jutsu and the one that doesn't could tank his attacks. Although she would likely start the battle in a supporting role anyway.

But I'll edit my strategy...as we've seen with Izanagi Danzo is smart with timing his attacks. He could just wait until Gaara or Onoki least expect it and then have A turn on them. There is literally nothing they can do if A becomes evil within 10 feet of them. It's an instant kill. So...the fight begins A speedblitzes and delivers a gut crushing kill shot to Danzo's stomach. Enter the first Izanagi. The Kages think he's dead, Danzo hidden in the shadows uses Koto on A. What shadows, depending on the location he could have nowhere to hide and Izanagi "teleport" only moves the user a few feet from where they died. A walks over to Gaara and BOOM Lariat to the chest!!! BOOM Auto defense independent of his will that has a type of precog fast enough to block Amaterasu. Even if his mom is slacking for some reason he still has sand armor on. 1 down, 4 to go. None down. 5 to go. Everyone is shocked and Mei instantly retaliates with a Suiton. A flashes away. Mei jumps backward and Danzo appears and hits her in the throat before she blows acid mist in his face. Izanagi again. Onoki andTsunade are working on A, Tsunade wants to heal Gaara. Doesn't need to since he's not injured. Danzo reappears throwing multiple wind shuriken at Tsunade and Onoki. Mei goes to stop them but realizes she can't move: Danzo's used his fuinjutsu. A flashes toward her and breaks her neck with a horizontal chop, another Kage down. Gaara blocks with his sand, possibly catching A and ending his shenanigans right there, assuming he wasn't caught the first time he attacked Gaara.

After that it's a 2 on 2 with Danzo and A vs. Onoki and Tsunade. Onoki definitely outclasses Danzo but thanks to the OP, Izanagi gives Danzo temporary invincibility. Danzo summons Baku Onoki kills Baku with Jinton and A throws Danzo in the air behind Onoki. A can't do this-we use manga feats, not video game ougis. Danzo uses the suction to make his wind techniques strong enough that Onoki has to use Rock Golems to defend against them. Baku is already dead Onoki gets sucked into Baku before he can use a Jinton. You can't be serious :lol: Meanwhile A stands guard and makes sure Tsunade can't get to Baku. After that Danzo and A both kill her.

In bold. Danzo can't take the 5 Kage, especially since they have partial/full knowledge on his abilities. If there is prep involved in the fight then it's also plausible that the Kage would have a fuin jutsu be used on all of them that the other Kage can activate when one of them "goes rogue" or have some other counter.

JLI2infinity
08-31-2012, 07:21 PM
I'm not an A hater, I'm just stating facts that A has been the least useful in the fight against Madara. Tsunade has been leading the fight against him when Onoki's not and was actually shown taking down Susano'o. A getting distracted because he was worried about Tsunade was his problem not Tsunade's-she was in no immediate danger.

Umm did you forget when A sent Madara flying after the initial speedblitz, or how he got rid of Muu during that fight, or when he and Onoki did an attack that sent Madara's Susano'o flying. The most useful thing Tsunade did for the kages was heal Onoki and Gaara. Combat wise she's been getting outclassed like the rest of them, except it's usually worse for her since like you said, she's leading the charge. Tsunade got smacked down in the middle of a battle with five Susano'o around her, how is that not immediate danger. A hadn't even been touched yet.

When has A ever decapitated someone on his own...oh right, never. A uses punches, chops, he doesn't have a piercing/cutting attack like his dad :shock: . Seeing as Tsunade tanked a Yasaka Magatama point blank, I don't think she'll have any problems with a Lariat or whatever A uses. Since when does Gaara need "time and coordination" to use a sand clone? (Okay, I was exaggerating the sand clone, he probably wouldn't recognize Tsunade being attacked in time, but she wouldn't be decapitated by A anyway). You must have forgotten the one time Danzo used Kotoamatsukami-who was there? Oh right, all of the Kage besides Tsunade. The Kage likely all have knowledge of Izanagi as well due to Ibiki's interrogation of Karin and even if they didn't it would only work as a surprise once which wouldn't be really helpful since most of the Kage use ranged jutsu and the one that doesn't could tank his attacks. Although she would likely start the battle in a supporting role anyway.

Tell that to Gyuki and his giant missing horn and A's hulking, muscular, Amaterasu covered forearm.

As for your counter to my scenario...What shadows? Danzo was on a bridge in broad daylight and after using Izanagi he appeared behind Sasuke. Those shadows. When you come back from Izanagi you can place yourself in a position convenient for you to attack. And autodefense!!!!!! Really. There is NO way in hell Gaara's autodefense is fast enough to stop A from 10 feet away. Autodefense isn't precog. it is just a sand defense that reacts to danger regardless of Gaara's will, high speeds can still zoom right past it Gaara's just improved it so much that the speed it takes is no longer the level of weightless Lee (Jouki Boy was too fast for Gaara to block with his defense which is why he set up the sand clone in the first place). And sand armor isn't going to do any good against that level of strength. Gaara is dead my friend.


If there is prep involved in the fight then it's also plausible that the Kage would have a fuin jutsu be used on all of them that the other Kage can activate when one of them "goes rogue"

My response: we use manga feats --Godaime Kazekage If you say A can't perform something that is logically well within his abilities (LIKE THROWING SOMEONE) then I'm not gonna let you get off with some bullsh*t fuinjutsu that conveniently counters Shisui's eye.

Godaime Kazekage
08-31-2012, 07:50 PM
Umm did you forget when A sent Madara flying after the initial speedblitz, or how he got rid of Muu during that fight, or when he and Onoki did an attack that sent Madara's Susano'o flying. The most useful thing Tsunade did for the kages was heal Onoki and Gaara. Combat wise she's been getting outclassed like the rest of them, except it's usually worse for her since like you said, she's leading the charge. Tsunade got smacked down in the middle of a battle with five Susano'o around her, how is that not immediate danger. A hadn't even been touched yet.
Tsunade was never "smacked down" she was the one doing the smacking-she had just taken down a Susano'o and coughed up some blood. A may not have been touched, but he hadn't dealt with a single one of the Susano'o he was fighting.


Tell that to Gyuki and his giant missing horn and A's hulking, muscular, Amaterasu covered forearm.
I forgot about that. Good point. Not sure what A's forearm has to do with anything though.

As for your counter to my scenario...What shadows? Danzo was on a bridge in broad daylight and after using Izanagi he appeared behind Sasuke. Those shadows. When you come back from Izanagi you can place yourself in a position convenient for you to attack.
How does this counter what I said at all? He put himself a few feet from where he died behind Sasuke-not in some shadowy place, hidden where he could use Koto on him. Great, Danzo can poof behind Raikage, but all of the other Kage are going to see him do it.

And autodefense!!!!!! Really. There is NO way in hell Gaara's autodefense is fast enough to stop A from 10 feet away. Autodefense isn't precog. it is just a sand defense that reacts to danger regardless of Gaara's will, high speeds can still zoom right past it Gaara's just improved it so much that the speed it takes is no longer the level of weightless Lee (Jouki Boy was too fast for Gaara to block with his defense which is why he set up the sand clone in the first place). And sand armor isn't going to do any good against that level of strength. Gaara is dead my friend.
Autodefense, really. Gaara's auto-defense is fast enough to block Amaterasu which materializes where the user is looking-Gaara couldn't predict where the Amaterasu would strike which means that his sand has a type of precog which stopped it. Jouki Boy was too fast for Gaara to catch with the desert sand he was using, not too fast for Gaara to defend against. Jouki Boy never attacked Gaara, just his sand clone that he wanted to get hit. Saying sand armor isn't strong enough to block one attack from A (when he doesn't even know Gaara has armor on) is just your character favoritism.


My response: If you say A can't perform something that is logically well within his abilities (LIKE THROWING SOMEONE) then I'm not gonna let you get off with some bullsh*t fuinjutsu that conveniently counters Shisui's eye.
Whoa, easy there tiger!:shock: Since when is throwing a grown man multiple stories to reach the altitude Onoki would be flying at "well within his abilities"?
They don't need the fuinjutsu to win-I just said it was one plausible counter they could use if they had prep time since they all know about the eye.

Godaime Kazekage
08-31-2012, 08:29 PM
Sorry for double posting, but I just had an epiphany.
I think we can both agree on this one JLI2 :D ...maybe.

All of the Kage have knowledge on Shisui's eye, so...
A speedblitzes and rips out/destroys Shisui's eye. GG Danzo.

As far as we know-Izanagi "poof" only works after someone has been killed. If Danzo starts with Izanagi activated, it will regenerate the eye, but A will just poke it out again...

Alternatively, all the Kage go into Gaara's sand dome and Gaara monitors Danzo using his third eye. This protects them against Kotoamatsukami. Sand dome goes into the sky and Gaara bombards Danzo with Sand Hail. Tsunade pumps Gaara full of chakra if he needs it. If Danzo summons Baku to suck them out of the sky (which it likely can't do anyway since it's range isn't that great-check the chapter before arguing with me) Gaara will tell Onoki to "level the field" with Jinton.

JLI2infinity
09-01-2012, 12:33 AM
Sorry but it wouldn't work. A can't just rip the eye out because Izanagi nullifies any damage. When Sasuke's hawk cut Danzo's arm off the sharingan that got hit on the arm didn't suffer any damage, Danzo just reappeared like it didn't happen with his arm in tact.

A also cut off his forearm, that was my point.

My point was that Danzo can put himself anywhere he sees fit to start his next attack. In the air, behind his opponent, you have no evidence that he has to respawn near his previous corpse. He spawned at multiple points on the bridge sometimes it was directly next to the body that just got killed other times it was a significant distance away.

There's one key detail you forgot about your scenario with Sasuke and Gaara. Gaara wasn't playing defense he was playing OFFENSE. Gaara was moving his sand to capture Sasuke. Sasuke said "I can't believe I had to guard myself with enton." So there goes your autodefense is precog. theory, right out the window. Also, the sand that he was using to guard Jouki Boy was the defensive sand from his gourd and the only reason he had to set up a sand clone was because he knew he couldn't guard against Jouki Boy's speed in the first place.

It became well within his capabilities, when he sent Muu and Madara flying across the battlefield with one hand. When he liger bombed Sasuke and destroyed the entire floor along with making a shockwave and a gust that was felt by everyone in the room. And most importantly when he smacked a multi-ton bull-octopus monster to the ground with one hand. What's old man Danzo weigh like 150? 160? Actually let me check...according to the databook he's only 116 pounds lol but I'll just chock that up to Kishi randomly making up numbers for the character information. I'll just assume he's 150 lbs., A benches that with his pinky while half asleep. So yes throwing him multiple stories high shouldn't be that difficult.

But let me take this a step further and use some manga feats for my calculation. A and Bee's lariats are approximately equal in strength with Bee's being slightly stronger as we saw when his partially transformed arm was able to knock A down after the initial struggle. With that same partially transformed hand Bee was able to launch Gai halfway across Turtle Island (that's gotta be like 3-5 miles) before Gai had to summon the turtle for additional lift. If A's arm able to produce a force comparable to Bee's arm (while his lightning armor was not at full power I might add) then he should be able to launch Danzo a few miles into the air let alone a few stories.

Godaime Kazekage
09-01-2012, 10:07 AM
Sorry but it wouldn't work. A can't just rip the eye out because Izanagi nullifies any damage. When Sasuke's hawk cut Danzo's arm off the sharingan that got hit on the arm didn't suffer any damage, Danzo just reappeared like it didn't happen with his arm in tact.
That's why A keeps ripping the eye out:lol: Yeah, it was a stupid point, but I thought I'd try.


My point was that Danzo can put himself anywhere he sees fit to start his next attack. In the air, behind his opponent, you have no evidence that he has to respawn near his previous corpse. He spawned at multiple points on the bridge sometimes it was directly next to the body that just got killed other times it was a significant distance away.
No. Izanagi =/= FTG, do not give me that crap. The farthest Danzo has ever respawned was ~20 ft. away on top of the pillar and that wasn't shown in the same panel. He could've jumped there from somewhere else. In a later chapter he is shown dying and respawning in the same panel and it's only about a three foot distance. I'm not saying three feet is the maximum distance he can respawn, but it's certainly not "wherever he feels like" and next to the Kage if they're up in the air.

There's one key detail you forgot about your scenario with Sasuke and Gaara. Gaara wasn't playing defense he was playing OFFENSE. Gaara was moving his sand to capture Sasuke. Sasuke said "I can't believe I had to guard myself with enton." So there goes your autodefense is precog. theory, right out the window. Also, the sand that he was using to guard Jouki Boy was the defensive sand from his gourd and the only reason he had to set up a sand clone was because he knew he couldn't guard against Jouki Boy's speed in the first place.
*Sigh* If I had a quarter for every time I've explained this on this forum... You read a mistranslation. In the official Viz translation (which I have with me and just checked to make sure I wasn't spouting BS) Sasuke says, "I can't believe you can defend so effectively against my Enton-I guess your Absolute Defense is alive and well." The anime also supports this.
Bolded part: No, what evidence do you have for that statement. The sand waves he was using were too big to be from his gourd and it never shows the sand coming out of his gourd. Gaara's problem was catching Jouki Boi, not defending against it-you forget that he had a whole division besides himself to worry about, he couldn't just sit there and wait for Jouki Boi to attack him.

It became well within his capabilities, when he sent Muu and Madara flying across the battlefield with one hand. When he liger bombed Sasuke and destroyed the entire floor along with making a shockwave and a gust that was felt by everyone in the room. And most importantly when he smacked a multi-ton bull-octopus monster to the ground with one hand. What's old man Danzo weigh like 150? 160? Actually let me check...according to the databook he's only 116 pounds lol but I'll just chock that up to Kishi randomly making up numbers for the character information. I'll just assume he's 150 lbs., A benches that with his pinky while half asleep. So yes throwing him multiple stories high shouldn't be that difficult.
People send others flying multiple times in this manga-that doesn't mean they can throw them as far. I realize that this is a manga and not real life, but even the strongest man in the world couldn't throw a fully grown man more than 10 ft. in the air. Raikage's not throwing Danzo multiple stories.

But let me take this a step further and use some manga feats for my calculation. A and Bee's lariats are approximately equal in strength with Bee's being slightly stronger as we saw when his partially transformed arm was able to knock A down after the initial struggle. With that same partially transformed hand Bee was able to launch Gai halfway across Turtle Island (that's gotta be like 3-5 miles) before Gai had to summon the turtle for additional lift. If A's arm able to produce a force comparable to Bee's arm (while his lightning armor was not at full power I might add) then he should be able to launch Danzo a few miles into the air let alone a few stories.

B didn't hit A with his partially transformed arm when they used their full power Lariat's, it was B's normal arm and he sent Raikage flying into the ground. And B using Gyuki's arm to throw Gai is way different than B using his own arms.

Did you read my second strategy in my last post. What does Danzo do in that situation? I'm curious to see what you say.
There is no way that the 5 Kage are losing to Danzo, do you honestly think that between the five of them they can't think of a strategy to counter Koto as good or better than mine?