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Ultimate combatant
08-26-2012, 04:02 AM
Goku as he was during Saiyan Saga.

Speed, strength, reactions and durability equalized.

Who wins?!! :D

joon61
08-26-2012, 04:23 AM
Kakashi takes this,due to kamui.

megabbaut
08-26-2012, 04:51 AM
Yeah, with everything equalized I'd have to say Kakashi. His Kamui is haxxed.

But in a normal match he gets stomped.

Ultimate combatant
08-26-2012, 06:51 AM
Don't forget Goku, unlike Kakashi still has flight, generic Ki blasts, Kamehameha, Spirit Bomb, Kaioken, Solar Flare, way more experience and superior Martial arts skills.

This thread is basically a proof Goku is not strong just because of his physical stats but because of his skills as well!!! :D

Noctis Arashi
08-26-2012, 06:58 AM
Kaioken pretty much increases his physical stats. So that's kinda of a mute point.

Kakashi's stamina isn't equal to that of goku's. Goku can fly. Kakashi really isn't going to kamui much.

Goku has more skill in the realm of martial arts, and has displayed intelligence in combat on par to vegeta's. Who was said to be a master of combat intelligence and technique.

The only plausible way I see kakashi winning is with kamui, and even then, I highly doubt he'll be able to use it.

megabbaut
08-26-2012, 07:12 AM
Don't forget Goku, unlike Kakashi still has flight, generic Ki blasts, Kamehameha, Spirit Bomb, Kaioken, Solar Flare, way more experience and superior Martial arts skills.

This thread is basically a proof Goku is not strong just because of his physical stats but because of his skills as well!!! :D
Well back in the Saiyan Saga, generic ki blasts weren't really all that fast so Kakashi should be able to dodge them.

Goku's Spirit Bomb takes huge amounts of prep even in the version in which he used against Vegeta in their first encounter.

Kamehamaha and Solar Flare woud pose threats, though.

Uchiha Sora
08-26-2012, 07:44 AM
Well Kakashi's not using Kamui off the bat so.. Goku still.

Shikamaru Nara
08-26-2012, 07:59 AM
Goku.

BG default is ICTK.
Goku spams Ki Blasts, GG.

BMC1994
08-26-2012, 09:49 AM
Goku is way to fast to even get caught in kamui even in saiyan saga.

srry didnt read OP still Kakashi gets kamehameha'd before he even can do anything.

Kakashi would probably lose to kid goku from DB.

MinatoXNaruto
08-26-2012, 09:58 AM
Goku wins. A kamehameha should end him.

Nigoyukai
08-26-2012, 03:32 PM
KAKASHII WARPED BM NARUTO COMPLETELY WHO IS FASTA THAN LIGHT$SPEED!!! SO KAKASHI IS ALSO FASTA THAN LIGHTPSEED SO GOKU GETS WARPED!!


But, with speed and reactions equalized, Goku is suspectible of quickly getting warped even if he's moving. So Goku fires a ki blast at him (one that's at least equal to the one that Piccolo used that reached the moon in a matter of seconds and pulverized it). Kakashi ain't warping that.

Vinchuriki
08-26-2012, 04:01 PM
Well.. actually I think Kakashi would win because of his Divine threat that would turn Goku into nothing....

*Runs away, clearly outnumbered*

The Immortal Watch Dog
08-26-2012, 04:55 PM
Kaioken pretty much increases his physical stats. So that's kinda of a mute point. ]

Oper handed kakashi a PL of ten or so thousand.. so he has stats even with base Goku

goku should still be able to boost his stats

Kakashi's stamina isn't equal to that of goku's. Goku can fly. Kakashi really isn't going to kamui much.

This is a fair point and Kakashi isn't stupid enough to start warping away right off the bat especially against someone as dangerous as Goku

Goku has more skill in the realm of martial arts, and has displayed intelligence in combat on par to vegeta's. Who was said to be a master of combat intelligence and technique.

the statement was somewhat hyperbole going by feats the smartest fighters in DBZ are Krillen and Piccolo and Gotanks

Goku dramatically exceeds Kakashi in cqc skills though by a wide degree

The only plausible way I see kakashi winning is with kamui, and even then, I highly doubt he'll be able to use it.

he has other tricks up his sleeve the problem is Gokus way more familiar with the energy level and what can be done with it..

Kaks likely to eat an island raiser to the face one or two times and get staggered then get nut punched by Goku (who fought pretty dirty)
Well back in the Saiyan Saga, generic ki blasts weren't really all that fast so Kakashi should be able to dodge them.
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What the hell are you talking about mega? They covered an entire country in energy inside of a single second..if that

and that was a city vaporizing energy attack that dissipated over an area the size of Canada and could be seen from space


Well.. actually I think Kakashi would win because of his Divine threat that would turn Goku into nothing....

*Runs away, clearly outnumbered*

Lol there's no need to run man you have a valid point under this particular circumstance

Vinchuriki
08-26-2012, 05:43 PM
*runs back*

Really? I thought so too, but everyone was mainly pro-Goku xD

I think that'd be his biggest threat to Goku.

PrinceofPeace
08-26-2012, 06:10 PM
How does Goku overrcome Kakashi's genjutsu

The Immortal Watch Dog
08-26-2012, 07:21 PM
*runs back*

Really? I thought so too, but everyone was mainly pro-Goku xD

I think that'd be his biggest threat to Goku. And the fact that Goku doesn't know about chakra (I think in DBZ there was something semi-similar called Chi.. right?) adds to his advantage and element of surprise.

read the standards for evidence..basic knowledge exists for both parties

Goku knows about chakra

MinatoXNaruto
08-26-2012, 07:22 PM
KAKASHII WARPED BM NARUTO COMPLETELY WHO IS FASTA THAN LIGHT$SPEED!!! SO KAKASHI IS ALSO FASTA THAN LIGHTPSEED SO GOKU GETS WARPED!!
No...just no. Stupid comment.

Vinchuriki
08-26-2012, 07:25 PM
read the standards for evidence..basic knowledge exists for both parties

Goku knows about chakra

Thanks, I apologize, I fixed my post as well.

The Immortal Watch Dog
08-27-2012, 12:08 PM
No...just no. Stupid comment.

he was being playful


Thanks, I apologize, I fixed my post as well.

no need to apologize

KAKASHII WARPED BM NARUTO COMPLETELY WHO IS FASTA THAN LIGHT$SPEED!!! SO KAKASHI IS ALSO FASTA THAN LIGHTPSEED SO GOKU GETS WARPED!!


But, with speed and reactions equalized, Goku is suspectible of quickly getting warped even if he's moving. So Goku fires a ki blast at him (one that's at least equal to the one that Piccolo used that reached the moon in a matter of seconds and pulverized it). Kakashi ain't warping that.

why you no post more?!!!

Devils Lawyer
08-27-2012, 04:00 PM
Question why does this endless joke of Naruto characters vs dbz characters continue. A a matter of fact multiverse is 75% dbz fights. Cease and desist.

321zigzag3
08-28-2012, 01:08 PM
Do Albert Wesker vs Agent Smith (all 3 different incarnations of him in the movies)

megabbaut
08-28-2012, 01:21 PM
Oper handed kakashi a PL of ten or so thousand.. so he has stats even with base Goku

goku should still be able to boost his stats



This is a fair point and Kakashi isn't stupid enough to start warping away right off the bat especially against someone as dangerous as Goku



the statement was somewhat hyperbole going by feats the smartest fighters in DBZ are Krillen and Piccolo and Gotanks

Goku dramatically exceeds Kakashi in cqc skills though by a wide degree



he has other tricks up his sleeve the problem is Gokus way more familiar with the energy level and what can be done with it..

Kaks likely to eat an island raiser to the face one or two times and get staggered then get nut punched by Goku (who fought pretty dirty)


What the hell are you talking about mega? They covered an entire country in energy inside of a single second..if that

and that was a city vaporizing energy attack that dissipated over an area the size of Canada and could be seen from space




Lol there's no need to run man you have a valid point under this particular circumstance
I thought we were just talking about the generic ki blasts like the one Goku used to injure Vegeta's eye in his Great Ape form.

BMC1994
08-28-2012, 01:51 PM
Do Albert Wesker vs Agent Smith (all 3 different incarnations of him in the movies)

You just gave me a awesome Idea.

Nigoyukai
08-28-2012, 03:40 PM
No...just no. Stupid comment.
There is no need to deny the truth :twisted:



why you no post more?!!!

:mad:

The Immortal Watch Dog
08-28-2012, 05:05 PM
There is no need to deny the truth :twisted:



:mad:

welcome back

cnorwood
08-28-2012, 05:33 PM
terrible thread, anyway a ki blast can still end it

kruptos
08-29-2012, 12:33 AM
Goku can use Ki blasts with large enough AOE or Kaoken to increase his stats and end it.

Ultimate combatant
08-29-2012, 12:56 AM
I thought we were just talking about the generic ki blasts like the one Goku used to injure Vegeta's eye in his Great Ape form.

Actually of all the generic Ki blasts, this one is in no way generic one. It has been powered by half of Spirit Bomb!!! :D

cnorwood
08-29-2012, 11:42 AM
goku cant absorb the genki dama (lol movie 7) so yea it was a genreric ki blast