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zerosameri
08-22-2012, 09:14 PM
To prevent the flood of "WTH KISHI WHY THE HELL DID YOU MAKE TOBI ______" and all types of short threads like thoughs. I am making this and then will merg them all into this one.

mrsticky005
08-22-2012, 09:52 PM
Naturally they will all be started by zero XD

zerosameri
08-23-2012, 12:57 PM
Maybe.

Vivi
08-29-2012, 04:43 AM
Ohana provided Images.

Tobi = Obito.

megabbaut
08-29-2012, 04:43 AM
Looks like the Obito theorists were right all along.

slyfoxx
08-29-2012, 04:44 AM
pm me the link please

Maruko
08-29-2012, 04:50 AM
*quits Naruto*

slyfoxx
08-29-2012, 04:54 AM
:cry: it still stupid nnnnooooooooooo :cry:

SilentBlade
08-29-2012, 04:57 AM
I am hoping (then) for an "Obito Chronicle" explaining how and with some rational behind his motive...This really feels like its reaching and ruining a character that supposedly died a hero's death.

Maruko
08-29-2012, 04:58 AM
Can you provide me with a link, slyfoxx?

Black King
08-29-2012, 05:03 AM
Day=Ruined. =)
He better give it some sense, this is dumb.

Maruko
08-29-2012, 05:09 AM
Day=Ruined. =)
He better give it some sense, this is dumb.
Years of waiting for his ID to be revealed = Ruined

Rasen_Chidori
08-29-2012, 05:10 AM
Urgh...

Kishi has some explaining to do, particularly how Obito could possibly know Madara considering his age.

SilentBlade
08-29-2012, 05:11 AM
Its not that sense has to be made...its that a freakin motive has to be given in a way that doesn't sound stupid! I mean, we left Obito earlier, resolved to die, saved Kakashi, gave him his Sharingan etc...

Now he wants to take over the world with the moons eye plan!?!? with no additional information given aside from what we could already assume (pass the chunin after Kakashi, loved Rin in ways Rin didn't return, made Chunin in time for Kakashi to be a Jonin etc..) And then we are told that Tobi is Obito with nothing additional this chapter...*falls over*

issa
08-29-2012, 05:14 AM
Obito is mad cause his goggles got crushed by those rocks`:))

Black King
08-29-2012, 05:16 AM
What's always bugged me is how and where Tobi/Obito got a Rinnegan. Remember when he grave robbed Nagato? "I'm taking it back"
Whaaat? That's what I want explained.

Sadly, I can't read it yet. Stupid school filter has it categorized as "adult" >/

SilentBlade
08-29-2012, 05:16 AM
I mean ATLEAST give us something to think about as to WHY!!! I mean fine, Obito is Tobi...but some dialogue and information on how and why would have been better than the stuff that we could have deduced about Obito's life in the first place!! Its like figuring out that he always finished second to Kakashi and chased after Rin unsuccessfully was something we didn't know prior to this....then just saying "Oh yah, and Tobi is Obito btw <END>" its like...whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?

TheIndigoFang
08-29-2012, 05:20 AM
I knew this was coming. LOOK AT HOW MANY PPL ARE VIEWING THIS THREAD!!!

Fuuin
08-29-2012, 05:21 AM
I can't even find a stable site to read it on. -_-;

THE susanoo
08-29-2012, 05:23 AM
obito has absolutly no reason to have done all this :( :(

Black King
08-29-2012, 05:26 AM
obito has absolutly no reason to have done all this :( :(

He did it for a klondike bar, obviously. Makes as much sense and anything else would. =/

Roronoa Zoro
08-29-2012, 05:27 AM
man.... this dude got crushed. Fking crushed. How the hell did he get out of there man. Oda would of never done this NEVER! One Piece FTW

Vivi
08-29-2012, 05:29 AM
obito has absolutly no reason to have done all this :( :(

Rin.

Bet on it.

Roronoa Zoro
08-29-2012, 05:30 AM
Rin.

Bet on it.

Yep your right too I can put 100 dollars on that. They had alot of flashbacks of Rin and him

Ren Kurosaki
08-29-2012, 05:31 AM
WTH!!
Kishi better have a good explanation for this on why Obito did what he did!
I can't believe it man!!
Looks like the Obito theorists were right all along.

Maruko
08-29-2012, 05:31 AM
Now, Kakashi is going to take off his mask!

And...it's RIN!

Roronoa Zoro
08-29-2012, 05:32 AM
WTH!!
Kishi better have a good explanation for this on why Obito did what he did!
I can't believe it man!!
Looks like the Obito theorists were right all along.

Just like Vivi said its gonna be cuz Kakashi let Rin die or something just watch

Rikudo Sennin
08-29-2012, 05:36 AM
Seriously guys ? Just because he released a chapter confirming that Tobi is Obito, you will be angry at him and you will stop reading Naruto ? Why dont you wait for the explanation in the next few chapters ?, these explanation might help us to understand why Tobi is Obito. Perhaps, he might release a movie or special episode like Kakashi Gaiden.

Take note we're just readers so we should respect the author of the manga we read.

A true Naruto fan will still read the manga even after reading Chapter 599.

Vivi
08-29-2012, 05:37 AM
I don't hate him.

I've been reading Umineko which has far more mindscrewing twists than this.
Hate Tobito?
Read Umineko and meet Yasu.

Black King
08-29-2012, 05:41 AM
Well, it makes me sour, but I can't drop Naruto like it's nothing. I'm just hoping the explanation will be justified. And there better be more to it than just Rin.
Take over the world over a broken heart? No..

Space Cowboy Sasori
08-29-2012, 05:42 AM
See there's a flaw in that plan, I'm not a fan of Naruto.

Rikudo Sennin
08-29-2012, 05:43 AM
Lol, but im not referring to everybody though.
Can someone move this to the Town Bookstore ?

ObitoUchiha
08-29-2012, 05:44 AM
Called it from the beginning...

So I was wrong about obito being zetsu...

Rin tried to heal him, the wrinkles are half healed scar tissue.... No clue about how his right eye didn't pop...

But... Told you so. All of you.

Now that we know he is obito, and that part of my prediction is true, please read it. Huge prdiction

BoxHead
08-29-2012, 05:44 AM
I'm not angry, actually.

I'm sad that I have to resort to using my Bleach standards while reading Naruto, just so I can enjoy it some more.

...sigh.

Roronoa Zoro
08-29-2012, 05:48 AM
Well, it makes me sour, but I can't drop Naruto like it's nothing. I'm just hoping the explanation will be justified. And there better be more to it than just Rin.
Take over the world over a broken heart? No..

Then Kakashi will cry or something and hold his hand and then Tobi will believe in Naruto and the story goes on

Vivi
08-29-2012, 05:50 AM
Well, it makes me sour, but I can't drop Naruto like it's nothing. I'm just hoping the explanation will be justified. And there better be more to it than just Rin.
Take over the world over a broken heart? No..

Kakashi: But why?
Obito: Because my teenage crush died!

Kakashi Hatake_Yamato
08-29-2012, 05:52 AM
I'm indifferent.


But I'm mainly concerned about Kakashi...... And Yamato.....

TheIndigoFang
08-29-2012, 05:54 AM
Never hated it, and never will. (unless Kakashi dies)

Rikudo Sennin
08-29-2012, 05:54 AM
But what if Tobi suddenly says: Who is Obito ?

Kishi = Troll Champ.

Yori
08-29-2012, 05:55 AM
Just mad at the fact he could have used Izuna or Shisui to create a more exciting character.

l3thall3g3nd
08-29-2012, 06:02 AM
Im gonna give kishi one flashback before I decide if I'm gonna drop the series.

Fuuin
08-29-2012, 06:03 AM
But what if Tobi suddenly says: Who is Obito ?

Kishi = Troll Champ.


Well what do we know?

1) To use Izanagi Tobi said he has Senju cells.

2) He has Obito's eyes and likeness.

3) Zetsu is in the mix.

4) Its possible Tobi is some kind of amalgamation created by Madara, who enlisted/found/created/summoned Zetsu.

I know its all about Tobito right now, but now that that appears to be the truth, I'm curious about Zetsu and Madara's role in this.

joon61
08-29-2012, 06:06 AM
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuu

Vivi
08-29-2012, 06:10 AM
But what if Tobi suddenly says: Who is Obito ?

Kishi = Troll Champ.

That is still Kubo or Ryukishi.

Hidan
08-29-2012, 06:10 AM
After the past two chapters if you didn't see Tobi being Obito coming from a mile away then I don't know what to say. (Kishi was obvious with Minato being Naruto's dad and Nagato being the true Pain)

Also for those of you saying that you're going to drop the series: Most of you read it illegally online in a foreign country, (Relative to Kishimoto) I don't really think he or anyone on here really cares if you're dropping it, as it won't change a single thing.

Also as far as trolling goes, you guys obviously haven't seen Nishio's works yet. (Although I do like Medaka Box)

kalmeast
08-29-2012, 06:28 AM
Seriously guys ? Just because he released a chapter confirming that Tobi is Obito, you will be angry at him and you will stop reading Naruto ? Why dont you wait for the explanation in the next few chapters ?, these explanation might help us to understand why Tobi is Obito. Perhaps, he might release a movie or special episode like Kakashi Gaiden.

Take note we're just readers so we should respect the author of the manga we read.

A true Naruto fan will still read the manga even after reading Chapter 599.

lol...don't stress...they can't stop watching it...they're only disappointed for now:D


btw From now on, kakashi is disarmed both physically and psychologically....He's useless... I hope Tobi captures him...

This must mean Tobi and Madara switched places as akatsuki leader at some point...since Nagato must be older than Kakashi and Obito.

ObitoUchiha
08-29-2012, 06:31 AM
Well.. I still buy sj alpha, so I'm fine. I am buying every book, and laughing.

I am so glad he is obito.

panda-sensei
08-29-2012, 06:33 AM
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D F bomb you

321zigzag3
08-29-2012, 06:34 AM
See there's a flaw in that plan, I'm not a fan of Naruto.

Two minds think alike here.

But I still read it only to see the ending.

Yori
08-29-2012, 06:34 AM
Let this be the last "I was right!" thread.

Naruto321
08-29-2012, 06:49 AM
I suppose Vivi's Spoiler still stands

LilHinataGirl
08-29-2012, 06:59 AM
i'm not gonna hate lol... i'm even more interested in the story

Ren Kurosaki
08-29-2012, 07:03 AM
^Same here.
Besides Kishi being a troll and loves to mind ****, I still love the series and I'm going to read it till the very end.

Lia_Uchiha
08-29-2012, 07:10 AM
I think people are more disappointed than absolutely hating it. lol I'm more excited now that I think of it, because there are SO many ways which it COULDN'T have been Obito and in fact I'd like Kishi to explain all of this, and that just means the story is only going to get more interesting!

kalmeast
08-29-2012, 07:15 AM
Kishi is successful for one reason...

He makes it obvious, what the answer to the mystery is (like the 6th coffin),

then he develops a whole lot of doubt in the readers' mind.... and we doubt the obvious...

There's some coolness to seeing obito be Tobi

zerosameri
08-29-2012, 07:19 AM
So much rage right now. Ugh, its so illogical, so much pnj too. He could oh has been anyone. Hell I would of has been happy with izuna!

animelover
08-29-2012, 07:20 AM
I'll keep reading just to see how Kishi the Plot Whor.e ties it all together :lol:

Naruto321
08-29-2012, 07:21 AM
So much rage right now. Ugh, its so illogical, so much pnj too. He could oh has been anyone. Hell I would of has been happy with izuna!


I would too. It would fit into the whole thing.

BMC1994
08-29-2012, 07:46 AM
Continue'd:

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!



:ohgodwhy:

If your up to date you know what i am talking about.

*goes into feutus position and cries*

TheIndigoFang
08-29-2012, 07:47 AM
Yes, I know why.

Lia_Uchiha
08-29-2012, 07:48 AM
Ah I know *pats on back*

Maruko
08-29-2012, 07:49 AM
http://nooooooooooooooo.com/

Enjoy.

TheIndigoFang
08-29-2012, 07:50 AM
Maruko, I lol'd so hard...

Maruko
08-29-2012, 07:52 AM
You're welcome! Don't forget to tell your friends 'bout me. :D

BMC1994
08-29-2012, 07:53 AM
This has really lowered my standards regarding naruto. *sigh*

Ah wel theres always oros adventure to keep looking forward to.

BMC1994
08-29-2012, 07:55 AM
http://nooooooooooooooo.com/

Enjoy.

Yup that pretty much sums my feelings up.

Ah wel some day we will all be able to laugh about this.

igw
08-29-2012, 07:57 AM
oh no! i am so done with naruto now that tobito is true! eff kishi!
*spends the next couple of hours venting on naruto forums about how much theyre pissed off & done with naruto.*

what?! im wrong?! now im going to find every little crack & hole to show that kishi screwed it up by making obito uchiha into tobi even though he hasnt even explained how it happened yet! i mean its only logical that a couple of small cracks & unanswered questions means that naruto is officially horrible.

obito turned into tobi?! i swore i was so right, but now that its true, im going to find a way to show that i still have pride & telling people who supported the obito=tobi theory that even though they ended up right, theyre still stupid & wrong.

lol dear god. talk about butt hurt & upset because kishi gave you an orange flavored popsicle when you so badly wanted grape.

*proceed to fling things at me telling me that im actually a hypocrite, that im actually the one whos butt hurt and whatever you can come up to try to make me look like my opinion is absolutely unjustified.*

TheIndigoFang
08-29-2012, 07:58 AM
@Maruko I've already seen it.

@BMC1994 Yep.

Maruko
08-29-2012, 08:09 AM
Find the holes, expose the holes, burn the world! :evil:

BMC1994
08-29-2012, 08:09 AM
Or maybe this is part of his strategy to lower our standards of the manga so he can blow us away even more with the ending???? *Wishfull thinking*

Maruko
08-29-2012, 08:10 AM
A part of me died with Tobi's mask.

Maruko
08-29-2012, 08:12 AM
What Yori said.

TheIndigoFang
08-29-2012, 08:12 AM
Do you think there'll be another arc?

Vivi
08-29-2012, 08:13 AM
Someone should edit the Thread Title due to Anime viewers seeing this on the front page.

TheIndigoFang
08-29-2012, 08:13 AM
/agree

Wassup 96 guests?!

BMC1994
08-29-2012, 08:14 AM
I think kishi did say he didnt get to do everything he wanted in naruto yet so idk. It is possible.

BMC1994
08-29-2012, 08:16 AM
Yup its official now this mangas true name is:

Uchiha Shippuuden

Naruto321
08-29-2012, 08:16 AM
I guess we should find a way to hide the thread title to prevent that.

Kaze no Kami
08-29-2012, 08:17 AM
He is not really Obito, it is a jutsu similar to Orochimaru's body transfer, Madara is using Obito's body, his own was too wounded.

BMC1994
08-29-2012, 08:17 AM
Congratz

*looks at the last chapter page* *cringe*

kalmeast
08-29-2012, 08:18 AM
Anybody who said their done with naruto is a liar...they're just hyperventilating over disappointments.... They'll get around...

even Maruko should be fine after a coupla weeks... yea Maruko? :D

TheIndigoFang
08-29-2012, 08:18 AM
Even more?!!? HOLY CRAP IT'S GONNA GET TO LIKE VOLUME 80!!!

Topik
08-29-2012, 08:23 AM
I'm pissed off. That's just... god. I mean it was so easy to guess from the very beginning of his apperance. Everyone was so sure about it that I hoped for something shocking, like Itachi true motives, Kabuto reappearance, Pain conversion... but that is just like "meh".

issa
08-29-2012, 08:24 AM
He could make another arc just explaining Obito being Tobi

TheIndigoFang
08-29-2012, 08:26 AM
Now that would be cool. Or another time skip to end the series. It's already been done, but it's cool.

Naruske Uzuchi
08-29-2012, 08:27 AM
I always believed that Tobi was ANYONE other than him......... I'm pissed the ;);););) off!

TheIndigoFang
08-29-2012, 08:27 AM
I that he was either Madara or Obito.

113 guests! I saw 850+ on another Tobi thread.

Naruske Uzuchi
08-29-2012, 08:34 AM
I bet all of this ;);););) will be explained in the next chapter, the bigg ol'd 6! 600

king kakashi
08-29-2012, 08:38 AM
there were so many hints it's hard to be angry if you just ignored them

Topik
08-29-2012, 08:41 AM
I'm still hoping that he is, and always was Izuna, who changed bodies. Maybe from the very beginning, he never was dead. Maybe he played everyone and in reality he possessed Madaras body. Tobi somehow regained his lost limbs. Kisame recognised Tobi. Tobi had in plans use for Pain healing ability.

Raiden
08-29-2012, 08:43 AM
Rin.

Bet on it.

I bet all my Rep Rin has a big part in Tobi's anger, and why is everyone surprised lol I saw this coming a mile away, Tobi and Obito had the same hair lol and just look at there names lol

Naruto321
08-29-2012, 09:00 AM
http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119034

^This

kalmeast
08-29-2012, 09:01 AM
I disagree with everyone who is ppl shouldn't celebrate their right to being right...

They were most humiliated by sticking to Tobi = Obito even though it seemed the lamest theory... And now you're telling them to shut up...? naa


btw...to OP...there is someone here who deserves to say "I was right" than anybody else... unfortunately, he's arrogant and foolish so he doesn't get the honor....

Jakropha
08-29-2012, 09:23 AM
Omy ;););););););) god, seriously, someone ban me for life right now before I start destroying the forum... this was all I needed to pull a complete 180 like Obito apparently did.... PLEASE!!!! TAKE ME OUT OF MY MISERY!!! I WILL NEVER READ A SINGLE MANGA EVER AGAIN. KISHIMOFO, YOU RUINED MY ENTERTAINMENT YOU BASTARD!!!!!!

Maruko
08-29-2012, 09:23 AM
^The majority of people believed in Obito theory because their names are similar. :lol:

kalmeast
08-29-2012, 09:27 AM
aww...if you leave, i leave...i wanna be your brethren in misery

Bacon
08-29-2012, 09:28 AM
D: Someone edit his poast

TheIndigoFang
08-29-2012, 09:28 AM
Yeah...

Black King
08-29-2012, 09:29 AM
It's not that serious…=/
There's still a backstory to it, so you don't even know if it's worthwhile or not. Just wait it out.

Naruto321
08-29-2012, 09:29 AM
We are all still waiting on an explanation xD

Jakropha
08-29-2012, 09:30 AM
oh gooddddddddddd this was the worst writing ever, I mean he's going to have to pull something REALLY good, better than Rin died or he loved rin or something gay like that... you don't ;););););););) decide to destroy the world because 1 person died............

Kishimofo, I hope you lose half of your fans, this is THE most asinine decision you have ever made in your life. Half of the fanbase are halfbrained monkeys who clung onto Obito being Tobi merely from the name, while you hashbash us who decide to clearly follow your authoring and stay loyal thick and thin, regardless of the stupid things you have done, but this, is stupid...

I shouldn't even have to ask some of the smarter ones here to just stop supporting Kishi, do something drastic to make him realize the stupidity in this...
I am going to do something drastic, if it means changing the way every single one of you looks at Naruto as a whole.

Everybody, please, for humanities sake.
Stop. Supporting. Naruto. In any way possible.

No reading it, no watching it, no buying anything Naruto.
I'm sure 1 or two may do this... but PLEASE

OH MY GOD HE DID IT!!!

Wooster
08-29-2012, 09:31 AM
You are jsut upset that your Zetsoom theory fell apart. `:P

Maruko
08-29-2012, 09:33 AM
http://media-titanium.cursecdn.com/attachments/42/719/634798639221257881.jpg

Jakropha
08-29-2012, 09:33 AM
No, I am completely serious, and I'm surprised at you Naruto... you of all people should understand this as clearly as I do... in order to mock this up right, he has to pull complete god ;);););) in order to save his ass...

I will not stop dropping ;););););););) bombs until I am completely eradicated from the forums.

Also, Zetsoom still lives on, this ;););););););) Kishi can't stop my imagination!!!

Lia_Uchiha
08-29-2012, 09:39 AM
RELAX RELAXXXX, he'll explain everything just be patient for the next chapter!

Jakropha
08-29-2012, 09:51 AM
Ooooooh I'm sure he'll comfort every single one of you... when Hitler decided he was gonna kill all the jews, he said "Don't worry, I'll explain everything to you in all due time"

No... and I'm not going to wait for him to explain how Obito ate a magic mushroom that made his nuts fall off and gave him god powers... No... just no...

issa
08-29-2012, 09:59 AM
ˆ hahahhahaha Well be prepared.
It's fascinating how people expect it'll just magically all click together next week. I still have my hopes up but 15-18 pages are just too short too cover all the inconsistencies

joshfable
08-29-2012, 10:16 AM
i alwasy new that obito was tobi yhhhhhhhhh:D we wonnnnnnnn. now on to the topic what will happen now. well first let me say what i think is the background story i always thought that madara and tobi was working together what brought me to think this is first. way back where the mask man was first reveal when Naruto born if you notice his hair was long and it shape just like madara own. also if you look back the attack was round the time kakashi and the others were still young so, obito will be to so it couldn't have been him so that proves that madara was behind that little attack. next madara is the one who save obito and also brain wash him into his plan madara met his end some how which is a mystery to all of us how but i believe he had a back up plan that if this should happen obito should take care of his plan. what made me to think this is back in chapter 560 page to what madara said by the way i believe madara has something to do with nagato rinnegan when he got revive he spoke of nagato and his rinnegan in chapter 559 back to the chapt 560. so hear it is madara starts to talk about a plan. "this is his doing he defiantly has something in mind but what things don't seem to be going as according to plan very well". this is what he said read it closely and you will see also we all see how tobi react when kabuto showed him madara. so its clear this is his plan and there working together please tell me what you guys think.

Roronoa Zoro
08-29-2012, 10:21 AM
I bet all my Rep Rin has a big part in Tobi's anger, and why is everyone surprised lol I saw this coming a mile away, Tobi and Obito had the same hair lol and just look at there names lol

I feel the same why and most of those flashbacks was Obito and Rin or just Rin. He was in love with that girl

Naruto321
08-29-2012, 10:31 AM
Pretty obvious. Because Kakashi practically told her that Obito loved her.

Lia_Uchiha
08-29-2012, 10:37 AM
Issa it obviously won't all be uncovered within a chapter, all that explaining will take up quite a few chapters not to forget there's also the Sasuke issue that will probably come inbetween prolonging the explaination LOL xD

Devy
08-29-2012, 10:37 AM
Yes, yes, we are all up in hooplah over the fact that _______ is Tobi, yes, great. It's over, it's official, it's canon. It's done.

This brings back new questions to the table:

-How did Madara know about Tobi, and vice versa? Also, how were they originally working together even though their lives were incredibly spaced.

-Did Tobi actually give Nagato the Rinnegan? If so, how? Nagato activated Rinnegan long before Obito even activated his Sharingan. BUT, if he was still implying he was Madara at this point, then it could have still meant that MADARA gave Nagato the Rinnegan, not Tobi.

-Tobi has MS. How?

-Tobi knows ridiculous amounts of Ninja lore and Uchiha lore. Much more than the average person of Kakashi's age would. How?

-Last one, HOW THE **** DID OBITO SURVIVE. Don't worry about the giant freakin' rock crushing your skull, it's no biggie, just you know, brush yourself off, get a new sharingan, and hey, you're good to go.

Kaito Lady
08-29-2012, 10:39 AM
We won we won! :D
And all my friend told me it was impossible!
*dances around in happiness*

Black King
08-29-2012, 10:40 AM
I don't think this Rin thing is enough to satisfy me. Rin didn't like Obito in return, but she liked Kakashi, and Kakashi broke his promise to protect her, she's gone, blah, blah. That's not enough to start a world ending war.

I really hope there's more to it, like some brainwashing or a kidnapping or torture or…just flat out something to justify Obito going evil. =/ I hate it when a chapter leaves off just hanging there.

Fuuin
08-29-2012, 10:41 AM
Thing is; every single theory about Tobi is in some way plausible, otherwise it wouldn't be a mystery. If absolutely only one person could have been Tobi then there'd be no mystery. Fact is, we still don't know anything. Obito's actions in Kakashi Gaiden gave more insight into his character than that flashback.

Was weak. Too weak, this is fishy I think people should still be skeptical.

Black King
08-29-2012, 10:45 AM
How does Tobi have MS..? How does Kakashi have MS??
I've never understood that. xD I don't care about Tobi, I'd like to know where Kakashi got his.

Lia_Uchiha
08-29-2012, 10:46 AM
LMAOOO "Don't worry about the giant freakin' rock crushing your skull, it's no biggie, just you know, brush yourself off, get a new sharingan" you are HYLARIOUS DUDE!

erm even I wonder the same, but one thing could be that his sharingan fully activated and zapped him into the other dimension automatically, and the other half of his body could be another person such as zetsu since he was tobi's arm, and I don't know the MS or about ALL that history and crap he knows about nearly EVERYTHING.

I also dont understand why madara uchiha acted completely clueless as to what was happening when kabuto summoned him, I mean people are saying maybe zetsu and madara helped Obito and are controlling him but I'm sure Madara would remember if he did do that. lol o.O I don't know too much brain cramming I'm so confused hahahaha

Fuuin
08-29-2012, 10:46 AM
You shall be wrong. Tobi isn't Obito. That's right I said it. Gonna keep saying it long after Kishi either proves it (cause I'm insane) THROUGH narration rather than having a chapter credit claim it, or disproves it with a plot twist.

I'm a crazy jerk now and won't believe it because its just bad IMO. Obito is a ridiculous character to channel the entire antagonistic vein of the series.

Toma RNK
08-29-2012, 10:46 AM
While the news may suck, I'm not sure the swearing tantrum is really the best way to handle it...

Edit: Edited the threat title to keep the word censor smileys off the recent posts on the front page.

Fuuin
08-29-2012, 10:48 AM
Omy ;););););););) god, seriously, someone ban me for life right now before I start destroying the forum... this was all I needed to pull a complete 180 like Obito apparently did.... PLEASE!!!! TAKE ME OUT OF MY MISERY!!! I WILL NEVER READ A SINGLE MANGA EVER AGAIN. KISHIMOFO, YOU RUINED MY ENTERTAINMENT YOU BASTARD!!!!!!


Don't trip. Kishimoto tried to cast a genjutsu on all of us but those with eyes like ours can break free before next week.

Just be like me and refuse to believe this silly old crap. Don't worry about evidence. Don't worry about anything other than your gut instinct that this was wrong in the first place.

Toma RNK
08-29-2012, 10:50 AM
Someone should edit the Thread Title due to Anime viewers seeing this on the front page.

Done.

Drake_Stephens
08-29-2012, 11:02 AM
I believe Madara saved him or Orochimaru revived him.. Then his "dark side" took over. Obito then wanted to become more powerful then anyone and he heard about how to unlock the MS (killing someone close or a dramatic experience). I believe Obito killed Rin and Kakashi was then shocked into getting MS when he heard the news.

Black King
08-29-2012, 11:05 AM
The way I always thought it happened was that Kakashi's guilt over Obito's death activated it. As for Obito/Tobi, I can see him getting MS by witnessing Rin die or something. I doubt it'll go that way though.

ObitoUchiha
08-29-2012, 11:09 AM
Guessed it from the beginning.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ld4b39yrbh1qd09ho.gif

If anything, I could take some reward, but could we PLEASE have tobi avatars?

All masks?

Obito? Before and After?!



But, yes. I guessed from the beginning. I am the only obito I know of (made BEFORE this thread) on this forum!

He's always been a favorite of mine. Second only to Itachi, but I would take an Obito AVATAR any day.

So I'm sorry to those who were wrong, congrats to who was right.




Oh, and I can tell Zero feels like

http://gifsoup.com/view/287756/you-mad-o.gif

Whilst I, Obito himself, feel like

http://gifsoup.com/view7/3654798/blue-ball-dance-o.gif

`:P`:P`:P`:P`:P`:P`:P`:P`:P`:P

Maruko
08-29-2012, 11:10 AM
I never liked it, but it is really you! Why didn't you tell us! D:

Satsuki
08-29-2012, 11:15 AM
Oh? You have seen that video of the blue balls guy on YouTube too?

SilentBlade
08-29-2012, 11:21 AM
yeah, thats for sure, until the pairing cannon wars start next!

Wooster
08-29-2012, 11:24 AM
*spends the next couple of hours venting on naruto forums pissed off on how people are pissed off & done with naruto.*

That's an interesting way to spend your time. :geek:

adamd15
08-29-2012, 11:24 AM
;););) im never going to read the manga or watch the series again, I have totally gone off naruto now because TOBI IS OBITO, I do not get how though because he was only 13 when he controlled the nine tails. also most signs point towards it being someone different, the writers of naruto have completely spoilt naruto for me, thank you for ruining the only good anime series ;););););););) nob heads

Fuuin
08-29-2012, 11:25 AM
^ Not only is it interesting, its fun and emotionally gratifying!

Maruko
08-29-2012, 11:26 AM
Anybody who said their done with naruto is a liar...they're just hyperventilating over disappointments.... They'll get around...

even Maruko should be fine after a coupla weeks... yea Maruko? :D

:3
I don't know...probably. But my sorrow is killing me! :D

ObitoUchiha
08-29-2012, 11:38 AM
Oh? You have seen that video of the blue balls guy on YouTube too?

I saw it when it was only 200 views.

And yes, legitimately 200 views, not unupdated view count.

I never liked it, but it is really you! Why didn't you tell us! D:

1. That would ruin the surprise.

2. I've been telling you! From the beginning!

Well, until I had a brief identity crisis where I thought I may have been tobi OR zetsu...

(Meh, if tobi was someone else, I would ONLY allow zetsu to be obito)

Fuuin
08-29-2012, 11:41 AM
How could someone who called themselves "No one" turn out to be a "Nobody" like Obito?

You shall be wrong, sir. Enjoy having the advantage this week. Next week you'll be raging mad.

Nikola Sensei
08-29-2012, 11:44 AM
Guys, you need to settle down for a while. Now that we finally know the true identify of Tobi, we can lay down a bit and enjoy in it. There's no point in saying "I'm done with Naruto; This sucks!; etc...You don't need to worry. Everything will be explained in next chapters...I think it's very interesting now that we know Obito is Tobi, because it creates this manga even interesting! So chill for a while!

ObitoUchiha
08-29-2012, 11:44 AM
How could someone who called themselves "No one" turn out to be a "Nobody" like Obito?

You shall be wrong, sir. Enjoy having the advantage this week. Next week you'll be raging mad.

Lol, sure.

He said he was no one because his name hadn't been spread yet. He isn't an arrogant enough person for that.

I blame it on his adoptive parent(s) [Posted what I mean here on almost every other thread, and not typing again]

Fuuin
08-29-2012, 11:45 AM
Tobi isn't an arrogant enough person!?!?!?!?!

trouble88
08-29-2012, 11:46 AM
well I just ate my words tobi wasn't Madara brother all long. damn you Kishi and your evil ways of trolling your fans
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/185134_404043869649511_344963410_n.jpg

Blakexd9
08-29-2012, 11:49 AM
LOL, I love how people are "quitting" Naruto. They will read the next chapter, and the next, and the next one after that.

ObitoUchiha
08-29-2012, 11:50 AM
*sigh*
Obito. Obito has the power, but he wouldn't be arrogant enough to say who he REALLY is, and to slather his name everywhere.

Why else did he call himself Madara? He's almost as powerful and no one would question it.

Fuuin
08-29-2012, 11:53 AM
Guys, you need to settle down for a while. Now that we finally know the true identify of Tobi, we can lay down a bit and enjoy in it. There's no point in saying "I'm done with Naruto; This sucks!; etc...You don't need to worry. Everything will be explained in next chapters...I think it's very interesting now that we know Obito is Tobi, because it creates this manga even interesting! So chill for a while!


Whaaaaaaaaaaaat!? The meaning of this post just confused me more than chapter 599. You talk like a Republican.

ObitoUchiha
08-29-2012, 11:53 AM
My favorite thing is that after this much build up, this chapter alone, and all other suspense, people are saying when he revealed it to be someone they didn't say, they're saying there will be another plot twist.

I'm sorry, you were wrong.

I'll admit I may be biased, because... well, look at my name.

However, with this chapter of only flashback, 3 words, and a full two page pic of him alone, I think this was as dramatic as it should be.

Tobi has been in the series for the greater half now...

issa
08-29-2012, 11:56 AM
Issa it obviously won't all be uncovered within a chapter, all that explaining will take up quite a few chapters not to forget there's also the Sasuke issue that will probably come inbetween prolonging the explaination LOL xD

I am aware of that of course but that just means 3 or so weeks of flashbacks if we're lucky not to get interrupted `:|

Fuuin
08-29-2012, 11:57 AM
Oh no one is quitting Naruto. To quit reading the manga would mean Tobi actually turns out to be:

OBITO!

Wooster
08-29-2012, 12:00 PM
I don't see why people are so pissed about this. Kishi has done so much worse over and over again. Heck, even Karin and the Bear was more insulting. At this point, who cares if Tobi is Obito.

ObitoUchiha
08-29-2012, 12:02 PM
Karin and the bear?! What did I miss!?

Also, I want to find out what Karin did that Suigetsu keeps using to torment her...

Devy
08-29-2012, 12:09 PM
Obito got friendzoned by Rin so hard, he's destroying the world.

He was probably a Naruto fan.

Wooster
08-29-2012, 12:17 PM
Looong ago. When Karin was supposedly in the chunin exams and met Sasuke.

Fuuin
08-29-2012, 12:19 PM
*sigh*
Obito. Obito has the power, but he wouldn't be arrogant enough to say who he REALLY is, and to slather his name everywhere.

Why else did he call himself Madara? He's almost as powerful and no one would question it.


Obito was Minato's student. Kakashi's best friend. He had a personality similar to Naruto's. But what changed him? He died a hero protecting people he loved. There's no spark as to why he became the ultimate evil trumping Uchiha Madara in terms of darkness. To dispute that is silly. Tobi is evil. He's no anti-hero. His agenda is to essentially deny people the right to freedom. That's tyrannical and evil. What would make Obito that way?

And that's my problem. Sure, he can BE Obito. How'd he survive, though? Well easy, Zetsu. But who sent Zetsu? Whoever did it would then undermine Tobito's power. Was it Madara? Will Madara be the final villain? Was this all his plan to begin with? Or what's the angle here, do you see where I'm coming from?

I don't believe this not because its impossible, but because its so extremely improbable that Obito's scenario fits the necessary requirements to grow into such a knowledgeable villain, and at his young age, he'd have to have someone behind him. And there's only two people: Zetsu and Madara. And IMO? That route undermines Tobi as the arch villain, unless he isn't meant to be the arch villain, which is even more improbable than the idea of Obito being his true identity.

I'll leave you alone cause you *sigh*'d. But I'm not refuting out of frustration. I'm refuting the idea because its bad quite frankly. It'd be bad writing. Just bad to go through a bajillion chapters of flashback to force over a weak option when there were so many more viable one's.

ObitoUchiha
08-29-2012, 12:22 PM
Obito was Minato's student. Kakashi's best friend. He had a personality similar to Naruto's. But what changed him? He died a hero protecting people he loved. There's no spark as to why he became the ultimate evil trumping Uchiha Madara in terms of darkness. To dispute that is silly. Tobi is evil. He's no anti-hero. His agenda is to essentially deny people the right to freedom. That's tyrannical and evil. What would make Obito that way?

And that's my problem. Sure, he can BE Obito? How'd he survive? Easy, Zetsu. But who sent Zetsu? Whoever did it would then undermine Tobito's power. Was it Madara? Will Madara be the final villain? Was this all his plan to begin with? Or what's the angle here, do you see where I'm coming from?

I don't believe this not because its impossible, but because its so extremely improbable that Obito's scenario fits the necessary requirements to grow into such a knowledgeable villain, and at his young age, he'd have to have someone behind him. And there's only two people: Zetsu and Madara. And IMO? That route undermines Tobi as the arch villain, unless he isn't meant to be the arch villain, which is even more improbable than the idea of Obito being his true identity.

I'll leave you alone cause you *sigh*'d. But I'm not refuting out of frustration. I'm refuting the idea because its bad quite frankly. It'd be bad writing. Just bad to go through a bajillion chapters of flashback to force over a weak option when there were so many more viable one's.

Well, maybe now that we know it is obito, maybe the whole, give everyone world peace idea was serious, and he wanted to keep people from torture.

His father (figure)
Kakashi and Rin having to deal with it.
Possibly Rin.

I dont know. We will find out.

Accept it. He's Obito. I mean, I'm Tobi.

Kakashi Hatake_Yamato
08-29-2012, 12:29 PM
I think we should wait till the explanations next week or in the following chapters.......then we all can rant about kishi.

Wooster
08-29-2012, 12:30 PM
The explanation about Minato's disappearing reapparing stone head?`:P

Fuuin
08-29-2012, 12:37 PM
As I said before, I'll settle for being crazy. There's no convincing me like there's no convincing you.

The Forgotten One
08-29-2012, 01:29 PM
But what if Tobi suddenly says: Who is Obito ?

Kishi = Troll Champ.

This. This so much. PLEASE!

Cult of Personality
08-29-2012, 01:46 PM
Although I really doubt it because this would require Kishi to not be a hack, maybe Tobi is actually Obito's father which is why they look alike (other than the obvious fact of Kishi being a hack).

When his son was killed he went crazy as Uchihas are prone to doing, and decided that genjutsuing the entire world would somehow bring his son back.

Kakashi Hatake_Yamato
08-29-2012, 01:49 PM
the only thing i got out of this was....kishi is a hack.....hahah

it'd be weird to introduce obito's father at this point........never knew he even existed...or his mother as well...

Wooster
08-29-2012, 01:49 PM
So Obito's father was spying on Obito and, thus, knows all his pathetic memories? :lol:

Or Kishi just had no one have a flashback. But that would mean Kishi is a hack..oh.

ILIKEPIE
08-29-2012, 01:51 PM
the weird soul in someone else's body thing?

Hidden Ninja45
08-29-2012, 01:57 PM
There's so much arguing today about this and people trying to come up with why it's not Obito. I feel like the next week is going just be full of it until we get a better explanation.

Cult of Personality
08-29-2012, 01:59 PM
I don't know why we're surprised to be honest. We all already knew Kishimoto was a hack. This isn't really a shocker.

deadtaka
08-29-2012, 04:13 PM
Kishi's tricking everyone, in a few chapters, "Obito" will take off his mask and reveal his true form, Frieza.

The Immortal Watch Dog
08-29-2012, 05:02 PM
Although I really doubt it because this would require Kishi to not be a hack, maybe Tobi is actually Obito's father which is why they look alike (other than the obvious fact of Kishi being a hack).

When his son was killed he went crazy as Uchihas are prone to doing, and decided that genjutsuing the entire world would somehow bring his son back.

You know what? That'd be awesome

too bad Kishi is too horrific to write it

Uchiha Sora
08-29-2012, 05:20 PM
@Cult If we had been introduced to Obitos father I Would go for that too. But it being someone we didn't know already would be pretty anti-climatic IMO

puppetmasterpossession
08-29-2012, 06:33 PM
angry? Angry as.... a bunch of birds?

I loved it!

Yes, that angry.

I have never been trolled this hard in my life.

Town Bookstore overflowed with these earlier today.

Really? I figured it would be.

You're like the 9,000th person to post a thread like this. :p

*<9000th

That number gets me angry too

-.-

zerosameri
08-29-2012, 06:39 PM
Town Bookstore overflowed with these earlier today.

And I have merg them all into my pre made rage thread.

Raiden
08-29-2012, 06:41 PM
I agree

KAKSHI WAS 6 WHEN HE WAS MADE CHUNIN

What can I say, Kakashi was a strong 6 year old

Vex
08-29-2012, 06:49 PM
I have never been trolled this hard in my life.If you need grief counseling, I'm right here. It hit me right in the feels too. I've been sitting in my own ;);););)/piss since I read it.

Wooster
08-29-2012, 06:54 PM
What can I say, Kakashi was a strong 6 year old
Kakashi? Anko was smoking for a three year old

Vatanui AKA Pride
08-29-2012, 06:54 PM
Let's be honest: We, each to a different degree, all expected something like this to happen again once Kishi trolled us by saying that Itachi was the savior of Konoha three years ago.

ObitoUchiha
08-29-2012, 06:55 PM
Being an oldest brother myself, Itachi has been a favorite. Even when evil.

Firechakra
08-29-2012, 08:51 PM
I know this is rage-enducing for some people, but what I wanna know is why people are so angry. Who else could Tobi have been?

Crystal Marionette
08-30-2012, 12:00 AM
I read it this morning and I was like, 'The fk did I just read?'

Rasen_Chidori
08-30-2012, 05:08 AM
I find it amusing that people are getting so upset over it :lol:

Noctis Arashi
08-30-2012, 05:10 AM
Personally, I'm fine with it. I don't get why people are so butthurt.

It's not even about the plot holes. It's about people not wanting to be wrong on the internet.

Naruto321
08-30-2012, 07:34 AM
People are being butthurt because they can't believe that Tobi is Obito. They just have to wait for the explanation of why he's Tobi. Its gonna be a big one too :lol:

SilentBlade
08-30-2012, 07:52 AM
People are being butthurt because they can't believe that Tobi is Obito. They just have to wait for the explanation of why he's Tobi. Its gonna be a big one too :lol:

I agree, every 10th chapter tends to be something major, so I believe chaoter 600 (being a 10th and 100th) will be insane! Lets hope some great action and commentary come out of it! Even if its not Obito talking! It could have something to do with where Sasuke is going and what it all means could be revealed there also...would be interesting.

deidara330
08-30-2012, 10:30 AM
I was surprised. Admittedly, I am a little upset, just because up until now, Tobi/Madara's character has been inconsistent with Obito's and I can't figure how he would become the type of person he is now. In Kakashi Chronicles, Obito was essentially the Team Minato version of Naruto. (As is perhaps a little too common in Naruto, there is generally a Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura equivalent in every team.) Given how many evil people Naruto himself has changed, it's hard to see how someone so like Naruto would become evil.

Although, objectively, Obito is probably the best person to have take on Tobi's identity. The major ideology behind Tobi's character, which is easiest to compare to that of the Templar in Assassin's Creed, is that there is no hope for humanity to move forward and achieve a peaceful existance on its own, because when given free will humans will always choose to do the evil thing so long as it benefits themselves. As a result, free will must be taken away. Although not explicitly stated, Obito is not the type of person to have adopted such a form of thinking.

The impact of this revelation is thusly that people become shocked that Obito is Tobi, because it's just as unbelievable to the reader as it is to the characters themselves. Furthermore, if Obito's change is shown in a believable way, a chain of events seen from the eyes of someone dead to the world, then the impact of Obito's current ideology is given much more weight. This is someone who not only believes that humanity is hopeless, but is someone who was previously beloved for his hope and lost it because of the awful nature of reality.

It's not as much a great plot twist in the sense of "didn't see that coming" because most of the Naruto fan base, at some point, believed Tobi was Obito, and the author himself didn't try to hide it much. It's more a plot twist in the sense of sheer shock that it was someone who it shouldn't have been, because not only should the person be dead, but the person shouldn't believe a word of anything he's said since his appearance.

The other problem is how Obito survived, but that's really an easy explanation. Zetsu used Mayfly to take his body and Madara used Hashirama's DNA to repair him, as it would seem by the change to parts of his face.

Spark
08-30-2012, 12:36 PM
:geek:looks like some people need to start apolgizing for doubting the people who said tobi wasnt obito and calling those people that believed it names

Naruto321
08-30-2012, 12:46 PM
No need.

We did our part for saying it isn't. But even though it failed, I still have hope that something big is coming.

Lord Jiraiya
08-30-2012, 03:37 PM
How could he have encouraged Yahiko to form the Akatsuki Obito couldnt have been born when the Akatsuki was was formed during Second war or post second war before the third war.

Obito would have been to young.

Ag_Surfr
08-31-2012, 04:47 PM
Seriously guys ? Just because he released a chapter confirming that Tobi is Obito, you will be angry at him and you will stop reading Naruto ? Why dont you wait for the explanation in the next few chapters ?, these explanation might help us to understand why Tobi is Obito. Perhaps, he might release a movie or special episode like Kakashi Gaiden.

Take note we're just readers so we should respect the author of the manga we read.

A true Naruto fan will still read the manga even after reading Chapter 599.

you know, those people are just from the "if it's not what i had predicted, thus making my theory wrong, i don't want to read it!" camp.

Ag_Surfr
08-31-2012, 04:49 PM
How could he have encouraged Yahiko to form the Akatsuki Obito couldnt have been born when the Akatsuki was was formed during Second war or post second war before the third war.

Obito would have been to young.

that was during the third war era. it's conceivable, although somewhat convoluted. plus, they didn't form the akatsuki until several years after jiraiya left.

Lucifer
08-31-2012, 04:52 PM
I'm not very surprised but I was with those who thought it was Madara.`:)

Lucifer
08-31-2012, 04:53 PM
that was during the third war era. it's conceivable, although somewhat convoluted. plus, they didn't form the akatsuki until several years after jiraiya left.
Agreed but we still need proper explanation we can only guess for now.

Ag_Surfr
08-31-2012, 04:54 PM
Agreed but we still need proper explanation we can only guess for now.

too bad people want to make all sorts of judgements/accusations before the next chapter is even released.

Naruhina4always
09-16-2012, 03:45 PM
How far a head is the manga to the anime? Because I watch the anime... This didn't come much of a shock to me tbh... kinda figured that it has him but even so, I don't understand how it is or why it is him :/ just kinda knew b:D

Vivi
09-16-2012, 03:51 PM
How far a head is the manga to the anime? Because I watch the anime... This didn't come much of a shock to me tbh... kinda figured that it has him but even so, I don't understand how it is or why it is him :/ just kinda knew b:D

Where is the anime currently at?

Drake_Stephens
09-16-2012, 04:10 PM
The anime is in the War after Zetsu started killing the Medics as Neji. We're a ways behind.

Vivi
09-16-2012, 04:25 PM
The anime is in the War after Zetsu started killing the Medics as Neji. We're a ways behind.

About 70 chapters behind then.

Approximately 35 in episodes without filler.

Naruhina4always
09-25-2012, 02:53 PM
thank you :)

SharinganSage
10-16-2012, 05:04 PM
Wait... so who gets the title for calling Tobi's identity again?

scallanan
12-10-2012, 01:57 AM
I'm sure we'll see a good explanation later about why obito decided to go this way.. At the moment, only obito himself says it's because of kakshi letting Rin die, but there could be more to it.

konokon
12-23-2012, 06:47 AM
obito did all this not only for rin but he seek peace he want to bring peace

Sir Michael
01-01-2013, 03:22 PM
obito did all this not only for rin but he seek peace he want to bring peace

We figured that out by now.