Mihawk vs Ichigo

[Monster Trio]

Only a sword fight, nothing else.

[megabbaut]

Admittedly I barely read One Piece, but from what I've seen he stomped Zoro, a master swordsman who should already be superior to Ichigo.

[BMC1994]

I think Mihawk Takes this since his casual slash pretty much > Getsuga Tenshou.

And mihawk easily keeps up with characters with speeds similiar to shunpo.

Edit : Zoro vs Ichigo would be a much better match.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

pretty sure Mihawl is physically superior to even the strongest incarnation of Ichigo and out skills him too

he gets one of those slashes to the face and is down for the ten count

[Uchiha Sora]

Mihawk doesn't even have anything other than his sword does he? I'd say Mihawk but I don't read bleach anymore.

Is current Ichigo stronger than he was in FGT?

[BMC1994]

Mihawk doesn't even have anything other than his sword does he? I'd say Mihawk but I don't read bleach anymore.

Is current Ichigo stronger than he was in FGT?

We dont know ichigos exact strenght (not that we ever did) but he is clearly weaker then his FGT form otherwise he would stomp everyone in the current arc and not be stuck like a pathetic female dog. Also his psycical strenght has taken an enormous drop. :P

In my personal opinion ichigo looks like he is slightly stronger then his hueco mundo version.

[Vivi]

Mihawk doesn't even have anything other than his sword does he?

More than enough when he took out 5000 men and 50 ships not having sustained a single injury and then taking out Zoro.

Not to mention, casually cutting through Aokijis massive Iceberg.

[Uchiha Sora]

^I meant that in a good way. All of his feats are done with just casual sword swings. :lol:

[BoxHead]

Ichigo can flash step and that's about it. Most of his power comes comes Getsuga Tensho.

Mihawk has been seen to be able to easily react to Luffy's G2 and could've chopped his arms off if Luffy hadn't had a burst of Haki then. And since flash step=/=actual speed, Mihawk could easily slice up Ichigo.

[Noctis Arashi]

And there was that part where he swung his sword so hard and casually that ginjo thought that it was a Getsuga Tensho. Not that it matters. :lol:

[Nigoyukai]

The only problem is that Mihawk's durability is unquantifiable, so we can only rely on powerscaling. Other than that, Mihawk trumps him in everything else. If it's a sword fight only, then even Dangai Ichigo is likely to lose. Mihawk's slashes are well capable of slicing Ichigo in half, and they're all casual too. His speed is considerably greater than his and is physically stronger.

[Devils Lawyer]

Ichigo is way faster than Mihawk. Doesn't matter if Mihawk slash is stronger. He can't tank Ichigo attacks even if they are weaker. Which are the ones that are likely to land.

[megabbaut]

Ichigo is way faster than Mihawk. Doesn't matter if Mihawk slash is stronger. He can't tank Ichigo attacks even if they are weaker. Which are the ones that are likely to land.
Mihawk's pocket knife alone was able to tank 3 of Zoro's swords, all of which are capable of cutting through steel. He was blitzing Zoro, too.

[Devils Lawyer]

That doesn't mean a thing after the fact Ichigo sliced through that plateu casually. Mind you he defended against thousands of blows of that level from Aizen. A massive rock structure with raw uncut minerals>>>>>>>>steel.

[megabbaut]

I can see where you're coming from, but Mihawk sliced several Pirate Ships in half along with an iceberg which should be pretty comparable to slicing a mountain in Ichigo's case

[Devils Lawyer]

You are not getting my point I am not denying he is more powerful than Ichigo. I am saying Ichigo is faster. He can release his attacks way faster than Mihawk.

[Nigoyukai]

This ends with Ichigo getting blitzed.

[Uchiha Sora]

That doesn't mean a thing after the fact Ichigo sliced through that plateu casually. Mind you he defended against thousands of blows of that level from Aizen. A massive rock structure with raw uncut minerals>>>>>>>>steel.

But is current ichigo as strong as when he fought Aizen? I haven't read anything past that.
I know he lost his powers, but did he get them back? I know he had that fullbring thing goin' on.

[Vivi]

That doesn't mean a thing after the fact Ichigo sliced through that plateu casually. Mind you he defended against thousands of blows of that level from Aizen. A massive rock structure with raw uncut minerals>>>>>>>>steel.

Irrelevant as that ain't the current Ichigo who is nowhere near as strong as that.

But is current ichigo as strong as when he fought Aizen? I haven't read anything past that.Nope.

He DID have his powers removed afterall AFTER he the Dangai Training.
Dangai Training Ichigo would have stomped the floor with Kirge.

And that guy is resilient as hell surviving rather casually when Ayon rampaged on him.

[Devils Lawyer]

Irrelevant as that ain't the current Ichigo who is nowhere near as strong as that.


That is irrelevant considering Ichigo is still faster. Then the current form is still more powerful than any espada considering what that quincy did to whathername. Then Ichigo was trained to access his dangai form. There is nowhere in the story stating he can't access it. Considering its a desperation move he probably never will

[BMC1994]

But is current ichigo as strong as when he fought Aizen? I haven't read anything past that.
I know he lost his powers, but did he get them back? I know he had that fullbring thing goin' on.

Well to summarize to whole arc ichigo gains completed fullbring the guy who trained him to use fullbring turns out to be evil and steals his fullbring from him. Ichigo cries.....alot. Rukia restores his shinigami powers with a blade made by urahara.

That is irrelevant considering Ichigo is still faster. Then the current form is still more powerful than any espada considering what that quincy did to whathername. Then Ichigo was trained to access his dangai form. There is nowhere in the story stating he can't access it. Considering its a desperation move he probably never will

Dont you think he wouldve used it by now if he could enter it? I mean that wouldve been quite handy in his current situation.

[megabbaut]

Dont you think he wouldve used it by now if he could enter it? I mean that wouldve been quite handy in his current situation.
Because then he would lose his powers again.

[Vivi]

That is irrelevant considering Ichigo is still faster.

Then the current form is still more powerful than any espada considering what that quincy did to whathername.

Then Ichigo was trained to access his dangai form.

There is nowhere in the story stating he can't access it.

Considering its a desperation move he probably never will

Baseless.Provide evidence.


Elaborate further.

He lost that as its a fact he lost his Shinigami powers before.

And nowhere does it say he can.

More wank.Or plainly stupidity.
First time I hear that nonsense from anyone.

Because then he would lose his powers again. Thats FGT Ichigo.Dangai Ichigo is the one who lost all his reiatsu in turn for physical power.

[Devils Lawyer]

Baseless.Provide evidence.


Elaborate further.

He lost that as its a fact he lost his Shinigami powers before.

And nowhere does it say he can.

More wank.Or plainly stupidity.
First time I hear that nonsense from anyone.


Bleach is all around faster than op. Not unless you wanna take the calc route. Which is man made and irrelevant here.

Harribel was fodderized by that quincy. Ichigo was strongethan said quincy so common sense says .......

Actually the fact his power came from converting his energy into physical power says he can. To acheive said power means dumping said energy. Which goes into dumping his powers. The common sense answer would be it a desperation move that can't be used. I guess you need the story to outright say it. But oh wait it did. Subsequently followed by an entire arc of him looking like a little b*%%& without his powers.

[BMC1994]

Bleach is all around faster than op. Not unless you wanna take the calc route. Which is man made and irrelevant here.

Harribel was fodderized by that quincy. Ichigo was strongethan said quincy so common sense says .......

Actually the fact his power came from converting his energy into physical power says he can. To acheive said power means dumping said energy. Which goes into dumping his powers. The common sense answer would be it a desperation move that can't be used. I guess you need the story to outright say it. But oh wait it did. Subsequently followed by an entire arc of him looking like a little b*%%& without his powers.


The onyl thing that makes bleach overall faster is Shunpo One piece has something extremely similiar to this soru which luffy casual stomps in G2. (i think he defeated cobys soru multiple times in just base)

[Kakashi Demon]

Ichigo has this match won.

He slices and has better speed and fought someone who regenerates faster than candy logia and Mihawk even is not logia. And still he can decide to make and lose himself his powers and win because he can turn his reiatsu in his physical power to make him speedblitz with his sword.

So Ichigo who is faster becomes even faster and can cut mountains and stomp Aizen level, he can beat Mihawk who can't beat Jozu.

And this is sword fight so can Mihawk even use his other powers?

[Uchiha Sora]

^I don't think current Ichigo can do all that crap like Dangai Ichigo

[Nigoyukai]

Someone may wanna remind me again, through OBD calc or quantifiable-based analysys/evidence, how Ichigo is faster than Mihawk's level of speed?
The only level of speed Ichigo may be faster than Mihawk in is attack speed, which doesn't mean much or is questionable if you take into consideration the power of that iceberg-slicing feat through condensed air pressure and how it translates to speed. Mihawk is easily faster than a Gear 2 Luffy, a guy who was already well into the hypersonic range because he was blitzing Blueno, who was at the level of a very casual bullet timer (high supersonic to hypersonic). Was effortlessly bullet-timing, and if his slash was able to reach a speeding Luffy, then his attack speed is likely higher than Ichigo's.
Through quantifiable terms, how can ichigo possibly be faster than Mihawk? He's considered hypersonic+ in here (for some reason), but really ignoring Kubo's abused "speed" tropes and stacking them and already debunked OBD calcs, he's stuck at the high end subsonic range. Nowhere near Mihawk's speed range, unless I'm missing a sonic boom/explosion/bullet timing feat or something else.
Speed aside, Mihawk can one-shot. Ichigo's durability against the blunt explosive force of a single Fragor still resulted in a damaged arm. A casual cutting attack like Mihawk's will slice him in half. Is of course more skilled and proficient in swordsmanship. Mihawk has the speed+power advantage, he wins.

[Devils Lawyer]

Ichigo runs the length of cities casually. Not even talking about Dangai Ichigo. The question shouldn't be provide evidence of Ichigo being faster its provide evidence Mihawk is faster. Using a calc is one thing but if said calc has nothing outside of said scene supporting it males it garbage realistically.

[Nigoyukai]

^^
Scan it and provide the timeframe. Otherwise, you're providing nothing but a stamina feat.

[Devils Lawyer]

Try no ch 476 they are having a fight over the skyline of a city. Mihawk hasn't shown anything close to that.

[Frost ninja]

Mihawk reactions?
Because to my knowledge "mach 14 is slow" luffy being blitzed out might provide more than "Running a skyline" which doesn't per se mean anything for speed. Hell, I run the length of cities casually, that doesn't say anything about my speed.

Even with your feat, does it go past the reactions of mihawk?

[Devils Lawyer]

Mihawk reactions?
Because to my knowledge "mach 14 is slow" luffy being blitzed out might provide more than "Running a skyline" which doesn't per se mean anything for speed. Hell, I run the length of cities casually, that doesn't say anything about my speed.

Even with your feat, does it go past the reactions of mihawk?

Funny you say mach 14 but actually give me a real timeframe stated in op that supports said speed. Otherwise said feat is as real as fan art.