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Hinata126
08-17-2012, 07:12 AM
Who would win


SAKURA OR INO....?

If it where a battle between the 2 who would win? ;)

or is it a tie....


I know it was a tie in the chunin exam but what about now!!

BMC1994
08-17-2012, 07:24 AM
Only thing that changed during the timeskip is sakura now being able to bash inos skull in with her bare hands. Also Mind body transfer wont work cause of inner sakura(if shes still alive :P )

Sakura probably would win (dont know who won last time) sakura will be able to heal anything that ino throws at her anyway.

megabbaut
08-17-2012, 07:28 AM
Sakura'd have a hard time hitting her, though. When Edo Asuma launched his attack against Choji she was fast enough to rescue him before anyone else by a long shot.

Also, she was able to rescue Choji from an high speed wind technique (just look at the attack its a bunch of high speed wind blades in a column of dust not even the Lightning Mask could dodge that attack is atleast Transonic speed). To get from there to Choji who was literally in front of Asuma and even dodged it perfectly.

She was able to possess Kinkaku very quickly(although Shikamaru held him down for a second) Ino got there in time.

She fought Asuma in Choji's heavy body and with 2 Zetsu bodies.

She dodge one of Asuma attacks perfectly.

Inoichi said her speed with Mind Body Switch has improved greatly before her speed with that technqiue was like "Faster Than the Eye can See."(she possessed a wild bird)

PrinceofPeace
08-17-2012, 07:51 AM
Sakura wins!!

Mind Transfer is still slow and once Sakura gets up close it is over. Sakura is an ACE at dodging and she will always be moving AND she can throw stuff at her.

HOW can Ino win??

BMC1994
08-17-2012, 08:25 AM
Sakura'd have a hard time hitting her, though. When Edo Asuma launched his attack against Choji she was fast enough to rescue him before anyone else by a long shot.

Also, she was able to rescue Choji from an high speed wind technique (just look at the attack its a bunch of high speed wind blades in a column of dust not even the Lightning Mask could dodge that attack is atleast Transonic speed). To get from there to Choji who was literally in front of Asuma and even dodged it perfectly.

She was able to possess Kinkaku very quickly(although Shikamaru held him down for a second) Ino got there in time.

She fought Asuma in Choji's heavy body and with 2 Zetsu bodies.

She dodge one of Asuma attacks perfectly.

Inoichi said her speed with Mind Body Switch has improved greatly before her speed with that technqiue was like "Faster Than the Eye can See."(she possessed a wild bird)

Doesnt really matter because sakura can just destroy the ground they are standing on with her monstrous strenght.

PrinceofPeace
08-17-2012, 09:02 AM
Sakura wins

Ino's mind attacks are just too slow. Her clan was not meant for 1v1 battles

Uchiha Sora
08-17-2012, 09:31 AM
Does Sakura even have her Inner self anymore? She's not that bratty kid anymore.

If she does then there's really nothing Ino can do :/

PrinceofPeace
08-17-2012, 10:08 AM
With or Without "Inner Sakura" Sakura will win

How will ino get the chance to use mind transfer when Sakura is an Ace dodger

darkdemonofthemist
08-17-2012, 10:30 AM
At this point I have to go with Ino. Her mind jutsus have improved drastically, and her studies in medical ninjutsu have given her better chakra control which in turn allows her to transfer much faster. She is now able to occupy more than one enemy at once and control each separately and effectively. Her timing is now much better as well and she has developed more techniques. She had always had pretty good taijutsu skills, as was demonstrated during the chuunin exams and when she occupied Choji.

Sakura on the other hand, hasn't made nearly as many advances. Yes, she is an expert medic nin, but otherwise she doesn't have anything but taijutsu. While she's suspected to be a great potential genjutsu user, she hasn't even tried to learn. She had her spot in the lime light fighting Sasori, but nowadays her place is more in the medic team.

Btw, I absolutely despise Ino.

Kuromaki
08-17-2012, 11:55 AM
At this point I have to go with Ino. Her mind jutsus have improved drastically, and her studies in medical ninjutsu have given her better chakra control which in turn allows her to transfer much faster. She is now able to occupy more than one enemy at once and control each separately and effectively. Her timing is now much better as well and she has developed more techniques. She had always had pretty good taijutsu skills, as was demonstrated during the chuunin exams and when she occupied Choji.

Sakura on the other hand, hasn't made nearly as many advances. Yes, she is an expert medic nin, but otherwise she doesn't have anything but taijutsu. While she's suspected to be a great potential genjutsu user, she hasn't even tried to learn. She had her spot in the lime light fighting Sasori, but nowadays her place is more in the medic team.

Btw, I absolutely despise Ino.
Sakura still has better taijutsu than Ino. If she gets in close, Ino is done for.

Edit: Dat darkdemon http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/112hqmv.png

darkdemonofthemist
08-17-2012, 12:07 PM
Sakura still has better taijutsu than Ino. If she gets in close, Ino is done for.

Edit: Dat darkdemon http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/112hqmv.png

Yeah but if you remember when she tried to take a hit at Kabuto that one time, her big powerful punch was soooo slow. And even if Sakura gets close, that will just give Ino a clearer shot at Sakura's mind.

Also, Kuromaki-senpai! :D

Wait a minute, we totally switched sides.

Kakashi Hatake_Yamato
08-17-2012, 12:11 PM
Sakura is aware of Ino's jutsus an improvements, but if Sakura lands a hit on Ino, then it's over.

And doesn't the enemy have to be sedentary for Ino's jutsu to work? Sakura won't just stand there and have Ino take over her mind.

megabbaut
08-17-2012, 12:16 PM
Doesnt really matter because sakura can just destroy the ground they are standing on with her monstrous strenght.
And how exactly would that help? That leaves her open for a mind transfer.

Kakashi Hatake_Yamato
08-17-2012, 12:17 PM
The gound would be collapsing. How can Ino get a clean hit if they're moving?

Kuromaki
08-17-2012, 12:24 PM
Yeah but if you remember when she tried to take a hit at Kabuto that one time, her big powerful punch was soooo slow. And even if Sakura gets close, that will just give Ino a clearer shot at Sakura's mind.

Also, Kuromaki-senpai! :D

Wait a minute, we totally switched sides.
When was that? Anyway Kabuto is pretty skilled and was dodging attacks from Tsunade in part 1, so this isn't a surprise\.

This is sorcery!

darkdemonofthemist
08-17-2012, 12:25 PM
Sakura is aware of Ino's jutsus an improvements, but if Sakura lands a hit on Ino, then it's over.

And doesn't the enemy have to be sedentary for Ino's jutsu to work? Sakura won't just stand there and have Ino take over her mind.

Ah yes that's true, but only for a brief moment. And if Ino can dodge a hit, Sakura will still be in her slow motion punch move to which Ino can then occupy. It will be most likely that Sakura will continue until she hits something, a rock or the ground perhaps, and Ino will be hit by debris. Ino can also heal herself, but that means that she would be vunerable as well... But at the same time, if Sakura tries to heal herself she can't move very much if at all.

megabbaut
08-17-2012, 12:45 PM
The gound would be collapsing. How can Ino get a clean hit if they're moving?
What good would collapsing the ground do? If anything it would make it harder to move for the both of them.

Kuromaki
08-17-2012, 01:33 PM
Well that was interesting, Kabuto is still pretty skilled though like i said. Also, I had to edit the video out because of rules.

darkdemonofthemist
08-17-2012, 01:36 PM
Well that was interesting, Kabuto is still pretty skilled though like i said. Also, I had to edit the video out because of rules.

Figured you would, but as long as you saw it, no probs bobs. Kabuto dodged and Sakura ended up slow motion crashing into the little mountain, thus triggering a giant wasp attack on Kabuto. She just paused with her fist out for a good 10 seconds. Long enough for Kabuto to turn around and watch her stand there while the smoke dissapated.

PrinceofPeace
08-17-2012, 02:31 PM
The only time Ino has laneded a successful mind transfer was when the foe was standing still.

Sakura will constantly be moving. She is a med-nin thus great at dodging. When has Ino ever switch minds with a moving target without help??

The Yamanka's are not meant for 1v1 fights

Sakura can throw stuff or shake the ground to mess with Ino from afar

What can Ino do?? Plus We have seen better Medical feats from Sakura

How can Ino win??

Kuromaki
08-17-2012, 02:32 PM
Figured you would, but as long as you saw it, no probs bobs. Kabuto dodged and Sakura ended up slow motion crashing into the little mountain, thus triggering a giant wasp attack on Kabuto. She just paused with her fist out for a good 10 seconds. Long enough for Kabuto to turn around and watch her stand there while the smoke dissapated.
Ah, but the anime likes to slow things down for effect. In the manga fight vs Sasori, it didn't seem like that.

PrinceofPeace
08-17-2012, 02:33 PM
When has Ino ever beaten anyone alone??

darkdemonofthemist
08-17-2012, 02:36 PM
Ah, but the anime likes to slow things down for effect. In the manga fight vs Sasori, it didn't seem like that.
Yes but there was quite a bit of standing around, being retrospective and planning the next move.
When has Ino ever beaten anyone alone??

When has Sakura?

Kuromaki
08-17-2012, 02:41 PM
Yes but there was quite a bit of standing around, being retrospective and planning the next move.
I'm not sure how it happened in the manga, but I'm sure Sakura isn't going to stay as an idle target for Ino's Mind Transfer.

PrinceofPeace
08-17-2012, 02:45 PM
Sakura has beaten Fuen
by herself

So now I ask you again!!!!!!!! Who has Ino beaten by herself???

darkdemonofthemist
08-17-2012, 02:52 PM
I'm not sure how it happened in the manga, but I'm sure Sakura isn't going to stay as an idle target for Ino's Mind Transfer.

Just you wait, there MUST be reflection, what would Naruto be without it?

PrinceofPeace
08-17-2012, 03:04 PM
Ino can not solo anyone

She might be able to win if the settings were right but not like this

megabbaut
08-17-2012, 04:37 PM
Ino solo'd Sakura even though it was a draw.

As previously mentioned and proved, Ino is faster than Sakura and she's gonna have a hard time hitting her with her strength. Hitting the ground doesn't do squat.

Kakashi Hatake_Yamato
08-17-2012, 05:10 PM
Ah yes that's true, but only for a brief moment. And if Ino can dodge a hit, Sakura will still be in her slow motion punch move to which Ino can then occupy. It will be most likely that Sakura will continue until she hits something, a rock or the ground perhaps, and Ino will be hit by debris. Ino can also heal herself, but that means that she would be vunerable as well... But at the same time, if Sakura tries to heal herself she can't move very much if at all.

Ya. That's IF Ino could dodge her punches.
Sakura isn't just going to keep punching till she hits something. She will only be satisfied if she hits Ino.
Ino's medical skills aren't that great. It would take her longer to heal herself than Sakura can because Sakura's medical chakra control is better.
What good would collapsing the ground do? If anything it would make it harder to move for the both of them.
Sakura's precise chakra control. She would hit the ground and make the area infront of her, where Ino is, to collapse. She wouldn't stupidly make the area where she is standiing collapse as well. In the meantime when Ino is off-balance, Sakura toss kunais and shurikens at Ino if she tries to use her mind-transfer jutsu, as she is trying to protect herself, Sakura would just attack her.

PrinceofPeace
08-17-2012, 05:48 PM
Ino solo'd Sakura even though it was a draw.

As previously mentioned and proved, Ino is faster than Sakura and she's gonna have a hard time hitting her with her strength. Hitting the ground doesn't do squat.


That is sooooo irrelevant that it is not even funny

Sakura was featless than and she is much stronger

Ino is faster but not as fast as her mind transfer which is way slower

When has ino ever switch minds with a moving target

How can ino keep Sakura still??

megabbaut
08-17-2012, 06:05 PM
Sakura's precise chakra control. She would hit the ground and make the area infront of her, where Ino is, to collapse. She wouldn't stupidly make the area where she is standiing collapse as well. In the meantime when Ino is off-balance, Sakura toss kunais and shurikens at Ino if she tries to use her mind-transfer jutsu, as she is trying to protect herself, Sakura would just attack her.
And why can't Ino jump out of the way with her speed? And as stated before while Sakura is about to slam her fist into the ground Ino can use her Mind Transfer right there. Then she goes UNS2 sty;e and plants a paper bomb and switches back at the last second

On another note, it's not like Sakura can control which area collapses when she hits the same spot.

PrinceofPeace
08-17-2012, 06:11 PM
And why can't Ino jump out of the way with her speed? And as stated before while Sakura is about to slam her fist into the ground Ino can use her Mind Transfer right there. Then she goes UNS2 sty;e and plants a paper bomb and switches back at the last second

On another note, it's not like Sakura can control which area collapses when she hits the same spot.

Jumping is a HORRIBLE idea. She can not move well in the air and she has to land sometime plus she will not be able to land a good hit in

Sakura does not have to get close. She can throw stuff or she can move at the last second or move in a zig-zag formation. Sakura would see Ino make her hand signs and she would know to back off

Sakura wins this especially with prep

megabbaut
08-17-2012, 06:18 PM
Jumping is a HORRIBLE idea. She can not move well in the air and she has to land sometime plus she will not be able to land a good hit in

Sakura does not have to get close. She can throw stuff or she can move at the last second or move in a zig-zag formation. Sakura would see Ino make her hand signs and she would know to back off

Sakura wins this especially with prep
Can you prove that? Her speed feats contradict that. Yes she has to land sometimes but i's not like Sakura can spam her attacks, otherwise she'd be wasting chakra. Ino just has to move out of the way.

Throwing stuff did nothing against her in the Chunin Exams, and she does not get prep unless specified.

PrinceofPeace
08-17-2012, 06:28 PM
Ino can not spam her attack either

Same with Sakura she also just has to move out of the way.
She did not have super strenght in the chunin Exams

Riddle me this : When has Ino ever won a battle 1v1

Sakura beat Furen all by herself

darkdemonofthemist
08-17-2012, 07:00 PM
Ino can not spam her attack either

Same with Sakura she also just has to move out of the way.
She did not have super strenght in the chunin Exams

Riddle me this : When has Ino ever won a battle 1v1

Sakura beat Furen all by herself

If Naruto hadn't interfered, Ino would have beaten Sakura. Who knows what it'd be like in a Part II one on one

And if we're using a filler as evidence, the anime creators make up plot all the time, you can't rule out Ino fighting someone one on one either.

PrinceofPeace
08-17-2012, 07:12 PM
That was THEN this is NOW. Currently Sakura would win
Sakura is TOO smart to fall for the sam hair trick twice

At least Sakura has a better chance of defeating a foe 1v1 than Ino does

Narutorious
08-17-2012, 11:25 PM
Ino can't do anything against Sakura. Sakura's stronger, faster & actually fights hand-to-hand. Ino's mind transfer jutsu is too slow, Sakura won't fall for the hair trick again, it's just a mismatch. Ino is a teamwork & spy type, she isn't the battle type, that's why we never seen her battle alone, it's not her style. Sakura will win & win quickly.

darkdemonofthemist
08-18-2012, 12:32 AM
That was THEN this is NOW. Currently Sakura would win
Sakura is TOO smart to fall for the sam hair trick twice

At least Sakura has a better chance of defeating a foe 1v1 than Ino does

There's more than one way to immobilize someone than with hair, I'm sure with more experience and much more training Ino would have come up with alternative, more practical ways.

I wouldn't necessarily say that Sakura would have a better chance, as it appears as though all of her courage in battle has greatly lessened after defeating Sasori (with major help from Chiyo, may I remind you) and attempting to kill Sasuke (attempting). Since when have we really seen her do anything impressive than when she fought Sasori?

Along with her medical training, Ino would have to better her taijutsu skills in order to abide by Tsunade's medic nin code: the rule that states that no medic nin shall die until they are the last member alive on their team. The medic nin would need to have better fighting skills in order to protect themselves, and since the mind techniques do rely on having aid some of the time, Ino would have had to learn other ways to fight if the rest of her team were to perish. When she occupied Choji's body she was more than sufficient in dodging and fighting. In Part I her taijutsu was on par with Sakura's and while she may not posses the level of brute strength Sakura has, Ino still has the ability to control chakra and could very well strike some fearsome blows herself. She has just never been in a situation that called for it.

NaruGaar. <3
08-18-2012, 03:54 AM
Sakura would win. Ino basically only has her Mind Transfer Jutsu and that jutsu is just too slow. It may be effective on an immobile target, but when her target is in motion, her jutsu will most likely not hit. And when have we ever seen Ino engage in strictly one on one taijustu combat? Hardly ever.
Sakura has gained speed, power/muscle, and a better fighting ability. She's not even close to being one of my favorite characters, but I'll giver her the credit. She would win this rematch between the two.

PrinceofPeace
08-18-2012, 08:35 AM
There's more than one way to immobilize someone than with hair, I'm sure with more experience and much more training Ino would have come up with alternative, more practical ways.

^ Okay no you are assuming. Care to explain how she would immoblize Sakura???

I wouldn't necessarily say that Sakura would have a better chance, as it appears as though all of her courage in battle has greatly lessened after defeating Sasori (with major help from Chiyo, may I remind you) and attempting to kill Sasuke (attempting). Since when have we really seen her do anything impressive than when she fought Sasori?

How did her courage decrease from fighting Sasori?? Ino neve fought an enemy on that level and since when did she ever have confidence. There confidence is on equal level since they have a rivarly. Ino was crying her eyes out when Saskue attacked the summit. Plus Sakura is fine now she is healing everyone like a BOSS.When has Ino ever done anything impreesxive by herself???

Along with her medical training, Ino would have to better her taijutsu skills in order to abide by Tsunade's medic nin code: the rule that states that no medic nin shall die until they are the last member alive on their team. The medic nin would need to have better fighting skills in order to protect themselves, and since the mind techniques do rely on having aid some of the time, Ino would have had to learn other ways to fight if the rest of her team were to perish. When she occupied Choji's body she was more than sufficient in dodging and fighting. In Part I her taijutsu was on par with Sakura's and while she may not posses the level of brute strength Sakura has, Ino still has the ability to control chakra and could very well strike some fearsome blows herself. She has just never been in a situation that called for it.

Ino using taijutsu is to risky. She would get pounded by Sakura. When Ino mind transfered with Choji he was standing still and Choji let her do it. Ino has never been in a situation that called for it... EXACTLY. Sakura has more battle experience and is an ace dodger. We can not assume that Ino has brute sterthtgh.


Sakura wins
Ino loses

megabbaut
08-18-2012, 09:20 AM
What are Sakura's speed feats? I'm actually convinced that Ino could speedblitz her.

PrinceofPeace
08-18-2012, 09:45 AM
WHAT !!!!

Ino and Sakura have just about the same speed. Even IF Ino was faster she can not blitz

Even IF she was fast her mind transfer still is not.

If you count Narutopedia Sakura is faster

When has Sakura or Ino ever blitz someone?

Ino is not winning this IF so how does she so I can at LEAST TRY to prove you wrong

Just look at them POLLS Sakura-9 Ino-2

Sakura wins

megabbaut
08-18-2012, 10:49 AM
They are not the same speed unless you can provide some of Sakura's speed feats. I've already posted Ino's.

Narutorious
08-18-2012, 10:55 AM
Ino had no speed feats ever, what is everyone refering to? Ino had always did teamwork, it's easy to take over someone's mind without them knowing, but it's different in a 1-on-1 battle, it was even said in the manga that Ino isn't the battle type, Ino shines best when it's teamwork or spying, especially working with Shikamaru. Ino can't win, it's impossible 1-on-1 unless Sakura underestimates her or holds back, Ino isn't Sakura, she wasn't trained by Tsunade, she knows medical jutsu, but Sakura is Tsunade's apprentice only, so Sakura has the same fighting style, unlike Ino or Shizune.

They are not the same speed unless you can provide some of Sakura's speed feats. I've already posted Ino's.
You're right they aren't, Sakura would be faster, Sakura vs Sasori alone is far more impressive than what Ino had ever did.

PrinceofPeace
08-18-2012, 11:08 AM
They are not the same speed unless you can provide some of Sakura's speed feats. I've already posted Ino's.

Well Ino defiently can not blitz her. Who has she ever blitz??

I did give Sakura speed feats and When Sakura fought Sasori that evasion and dodging speed is better than what Ino ever did

Where is you Ino speed feats again?? I can not see them

WHEN HAS INO EVER SWITCHED PLACES WITH SOMEONE BY HERSELF
WHEN HAS INO EVER BEAT ANYONE 1v1

Narutorious
08-18-2012, 11:13 AM
^That's what I'm trying to figure out, Ino never did anything speed wise, in the manga at least.

PrinceofPeace
08-18-2012, 11:18 AM
@megabutt what Ino feats does Ino have


Sakura wins

megabbaut
08-18-2012, 11:46 AM
Ino had no speed feats ever, what is everyone refering to? Ino had always did teamwork, it's easy to take over someone's mind without them knowing, but it's different in a 1-on-1 battle, it was even said in the manga that Ino isn't the battle type, Ino shines best when it's teamwork or spying, especially working with Shikamaru. Ino can't win, it's impossible 1-on-1 unless Sakura underestimates her or holds back, Ino isn't Sakura, she wasn't trained by Tsunade, she knows medical jutsu, but Sakura is Tsunade's apprentice only, so Sakura has the same fighting style, unlike Ino or Shizune.


You're right they aren't, Sakura would be faster, Sakura vs Sasori alone is far more impressive than what Ino had ever did.
Sakura is not faster, against Sasori she had to rely on Chiyo's puppet threads to dodge Sasori's attacks. Without Chiyo's help she wouldn't have been able to evade anything. Ino on the other hand rescued Choji before anyone else when Edo Asuma launched his attack on them, and she also rescued him from an high speed wind technique (just look at the attack its a bunch of high speed wind blades in a column of dust, not even the Lightning Mask could dodge). To get from there to Choji who was literally in front of Asuma and even dodged it perfectly.

She was able to possess Kinkaku very quickly(although Shikamaru held him down for a second) Ino got there in time.

She fought Asuma in Choji's heavy body and with 2 Zetsu bodies.

She dodge one of Asuma attacks perfectly.

Inoichi said her speed with Mind Body Switch has improved greatly before her speed with that technqiue was like "Faster Than the Eye can See."(she possessed a wild bird)

These are far better speed feats than Sakura has ever shown, and Sakura won't be able to hit Ino since she's faster.

PrinceofPeace
08-18-2012, 11:56 AM
That is NOT a great speed feat for Ino
Asuma warned them that he was going to attack and Ino was right there to save him. She was close to him anyway.

Yeah Ino got to Kinkaku THANKS TO HER TEAMMATES. She has never been able to do it alone without immoblizing the foe!

SOOOOOO !!!! There is no other bodies Ino can use so whats your point. You are just brining up irrelevant feats

Sakura dodged Sasori's attacks with and without Chiyo's help. Sasori's attacks have better aim and danger and are faster

Sakura would alwasy be on the move. Ino still has to aim it. If Ino could use her attack quickly she would fight 1v1 and provided more help in the fight with Kakazu. Sakura did more than Ino did in the fight with kakazu

You have not conviced ANYONE that Ino is faster she is NOT
Sakura is faster even Narutopedia says so. (Yes it is not always valid but it is true for the most part. )

Sakura and Ino have EQUAL speed at best/least

Narutorious
08-18-2012, 12:19 PM
Sakura is not faster, against Sasori she had to rely on Chiyo's puppet threads to dodge Sasori's attacks. Without Chiyo's help she wouldn't have been able to evade anything.
At first Chiyo was helping Sakura, eventually Sakura was dodging on her own.

Ino on the other hand rescued Choji before anyone else when Edo Asuma launched his attack on them and she also rescued him from an high speed wind technique (just look at the attack its a bunch of high speed wind blades in a column of dust, not even the Lightning Mask could dodge).

To get from there to Choji who was literally in front of Asuma and even dodged it perfectly.
Against a concious Asuma who warned them, and it's not as if she skillfully dodged it.

She was able to possess Kinkaku very quickly(although Shikamaru held him down for a second) Ino got there in time.
Exactly.

She fought Asuma in Choji's heavy body and with 2 Zetsu bodies.
It was never said that her clan had a limit on how heavy they can lift, as long as you possess the mind, and she was never fighting 2 Zetsus & Asuma at the same time.

She dodge one of Asuma attacks perfectly.
Asuma was warning them throughout the battle.

Inoichi said her speed with Mind Body Switch has improved greatly before her speed with that technqiue was like "Faster Than the Eye can See."(she possessed a wild bird)
What chapter was that said? Regardless it's still useless against a moving opponent, possessing a bird isn't the same, Ino said herself she's not a straight forward fighter, & Shikamaru told her that her technique isn't usable without him.

megabbaut
08-18-2012, 12:37 PM
That is NOT a great speed feat for Ino
Asuma warned them that he was going to attack and Ino was right there to save him. She was close to him anyway.

Yeah Ino got to Kinkaku THANKS TO HER TEAMMATES. She has never been able to do it alone without immoblizing the foe!

SOOOOOO !!!! There is no other bodies Ino can use so whats your point. You are just brining up irrelevant feats

Sakura dodged Sasori's attacks with and without Chiyo's help. Sasori's attacks have better aim and danger and are faster

Sakura would alwasy be on the move. Ino still has to aim it. If Ino could use her attack quickly she would fight 1v1 and provided more help in the fight with Kakazu. Sakura did more than Ino did in the fight with kakazu

You have not conviced ANYONE that Ino is faster she is NOT
Sakura is faster even Narutopedia says so. (Yes it is not always valid but it is true for the most part. )

Sakura and Ino have EQUAL speed at best/least
No man he didn't warn them, in Chapter 533 page 1 she was the first one to react to Asuma's attack as seen when we saw her foot starting to run. And in the first panel she's nowhere close to him.

The point is that the Mind Transfer technique in the war was proven to be quite fast.

He was able to keep up with Asuma in taijutsu even inside other people's bodes. And Asuma is pretty fast, too. This taijutsu feat proves she could keep up with Sakura in a taijutsu fight and since she's faster than her, Sakura won't be able to hit her.

Prove Sakura dodged Sasori's attacks without Chiyo controlling her body.

Sakura being on the move is irrelevant being that Ino could bring the fight up close and use Mind Transfer after dodging one of Sakura's attacks.

You haven't provided ONE speed feat for Sakura. Until you do, the fact remains that Ino is faster than Sakura.

Narutorious
08-18-2012, 01:02 PM
No man he didn't warn them, in Chapter 533 page 1 she was the first one to react to Asuma's attack as seen when we saw her foot starting to run. And in the first panel she's nowhere close to him.
Ch. 532 pg 18 is when he warned them, just a page before.

The point is that the Mind Transfer technique in the war was proven to be quite fast.
Because the person she possessed was unawared & was standing still.

He was able to keep up with Asuma in taijutsu even inside other people's bodes. And Asuma is pretty fast, too. This taijutsu feat proves she could keep up with Sakura in a taijutsu fight and since she's faster than her, Sakura won't be able to hit her.
There wasn't even really fighting as Ino was just holding Asuma & fight with kunais more than anything, basic ninja fighting, not to mention Asuma was concious, and that doesn't prove she's faster than Sakura, doesn't even prove she's at Sakura's level.

Prove Sakura dodged Sasori's attacks without Chiyo controlling her body.
Ch. 270 pg 8

Sakura being on the move is irrelevant being that Ino could bring the fight up close and use Mind Transfer after dodging one of Sakura's attacks.
That can never happen, Sakura will knock Ino out before Ino gets a chance because quote from Ino Ch. 335 pg 13, "I'm not as skilled as a straight foward fighter", it can only happen if Sakura stands still & say "Ino, take my body".

darkdemonofthemist
08-18-2012, 01:29 PM
Let's refer to the databooks at this time.

The third databook goes along with chapters 245 to 402. You can't really use these as a definite way of measuring their odds due to the fact that we are so far ahead of the last chapter. It is obvious that since that was published, Ino has improved her jutsu and skills, while we haven't seen much of a change in Sakura, except perhaps better medical ninjutsu.

But let's look at the stats anyway.

In the first databook (chapters 1-117), Ino triumphed over Sakura in terms of ninjutsu, taijutsu, speed, and stamina, but was weaker than Sakura in intelligence, genjutsu and hand seals. Sakura at this point doesn't have any jutsu, so no need for hand seals, and she doesn't have any genjutsu to use, so that doesn't really count either. Which probably means that Ino should've had higher stats but whatever.

In the second databook (chapters 118-238, Kakashi Gaiden not included, of course), Ino still wins out in ninjutsu, taijutsu, strength, speed, and stamina, Sakura having the upper edge in genjutsu, intelligence, and hand seals. Same logic applies to ninjutsu and genjutsu, but in my opinion Sakura is more book smart, and it seems as though her intelligence doesn't always help her in battle. It's almost like she has performance anxiety.

In the third databook (chapters 245-402), we are just now getting into Part II. Sakura has completed her training with Tsunade, and all of her stats have improved, the main ones being her taijutsu (1 to a 3), strength (1 to a 3), and speed (1 to a 3), while staying the same in genjutsu and handseals, and only going up by 1 in ninjutsu and stamina. She is evenly matched with Ino's stamina. Once again, the description for genjutsu, ninjutsu, and hand seals are knowledge AND skill. What gives Sakura the edge is her intelligence. Because her intelligence is so high, other stats are higher. Ino would definitely win out in terms of actual skill in these things, but she doesn't have the extensive knowledge like Sakura, who simply knows more about the mechanics and the various types, etc. That doesn't mean that Ino hasn't mastered her own techniques. Yes, during the Time Skip Sakura trained hard and improved greatly, but since then, what else has she actually improved on? Not much, while Ino continued onto to develop more skills and better herself as a ninja overall. If there were to be a fouth databook, I'm positive that Ino's stats would be higher, while Sakura's would probably stay the same, thus closing the 5 point gap in their totals. Due to the fact that the stats only go by .5, you could say that either of them could be at the very top of their range (3.8 or something) or the very low (4.0)

We already have noticed Ino's improvements in the war. We see she is better than when she and her team were fighting Hidan. We know that Asuma had told her not to lose to Sakura (highly annoying because I repeat, I hate Ino), and so that gave Ino even more motivation, inspiring her and jump-starting her training success. Seeing as she was able to keep a level head when fighting Asuma unlike Choji, we know that Ino will not be overcome by her emotions if fighting Sakura, like she did during the chunin exams.

I feel that by the third databook they are both well rounded ninjas, with each of their stats being around the same range, but Sakura has higher totals overall. However, there are more factors that play into a battle than just the characters abilities. We still have to consider Intel (prior knowledge of the enemy), Match-ups (individual skills and how they work against each other plus strengths and weaknesses), power-ups (bloodline limits, any other special powers), and scenario (environment and preparation for battle).

Intel- Ino has seen all of Sakura's tricks, while Sakura does not know of all of Ino's improvements. Ino is an expert of intel gathering. She could be just as perceptive as Sakura has been. According to the third data book, her intelligence is off by 1, but that's only because Sakura is so book smart.
Match-ups- This is a difficult one because they are pretty much opposites. Sakura is a taijutsu user, Ino ninjutsu. Sakura though, is a short range fighter while Ino can be short to mid-range. Ino's weaknesses are the uncertainty that her jutsus will hit and her less developed taijutsu. Her strengths on the other hand, are her new ninjutsu abilities, her knowledge, and ability to gain knowledge of Sakura's fighting style. Sakura's weaknesses are her non-existent jutsu and not knowing all of Ino's tricks, having not been around to witness them. Sakura's strengths are of course her taijutsu and medical ninjutsu. It could go either way with these factors.
Power-ups- Sakura has improved on almost all stats, but has no jutsu to use. Ino has furthered her jutsu abilities. She has learned to use her clan's jutsus that were originally created solely for intel gathering into a means of attack. In the anime, Ino couldn't use Mind Transfer jutsu on Sora but now in the war she was able to use it on Kinkaku. She also is now able to use Mind Clone Switch (a jutsu she recently aquired) on mutiple opponents. She could call upon some wild animals to attack Sakura and buy some time. The Yamanaka clan has special jutsu, while Sakura has none at all. Any kind that may appear to be ninjutsu (chakra scalpel) is just a derivative of medical ninjutsu. With Tsunade as the Hokage and also having power over the medic team (and thus medical training), they would have to follow her rules. She says that medic nin have to be good at hand to hand combat in order to prevent injuries, so Ino would have to learn some of that too.
Scenario- Sakura would only do well in an enclosed space. Ino could use whatever life is present in the area to her advantage (such as the hawk to spy), she also has slight sensory abilities so she could use both of those things to locate Sakura if she tried to hide. Eventually though, they'd have to get close to each other for anything to happen. As far as preparation for battle goes, Ino would probably have some flowers on her, if not she could find some, which she would try to use to poison Sakura. While it of course wouldn't do much to her, she'd still be distracted, which could heighten Ino's chances of being able to use her jutsu. Sakura doesn't have any means of distracting.

btw this took me forever to write. And PrinceofPeace, would you please calm down? Really.

Kuromaki
08-18-2012, 01:34 PM
^daamn gurl
Just you wait, there MUST be reflection, what would Naruto be without it?
I wouldn't say Sakura stands there though. She knows all about Ino mind transfer.

PrinceofPeace
08-18-2012, 01:37 PM
You know what this is the SECOND time you were wrong about Manga chaps.
Chat 532 pg. 16 Asuma warns them to get out of the way!!!!!!
Ino was last seen about 10ft away from Choji. Shikamaru could not save Choji cuz he was busy attackin Asuma.

Ino had enough time AND A WARNING to easily save Choji

PLEASE PUT IN THE SMALL TIME TO CHECK YOUR INFO OR IT IS POINTLESS AND NOT FUN TO DEBATE YOU.

Ino's mind transfer is not that fast. I ask again:
-HOW WILL INO GET SAKURA WITH MIND TRANSFERED
-WHEN HAS INO EVER USED MIND TRANSFER AND BEEN SUCCESSFUL BY HERSELF not including when she fought Sakura)

Taijutsu is TOOOO RISKY. All Sakura needs is just ONE HIT. Do you really underestimate Sakura so much that she will not even get one hit in?? (so far taijutsu is the ONLY thing Sakura has agianst Sakura and using that is too risky)

Sakura held her own when the 100 puppets wer activated
Sakura moved fast enough to grab Sasoir's thread and recall it smash Sasori
Sakura also has way more stamina and a better med-nin
Sakura is smarter and she is well aware of what Ino can do

Sakura is faster than Ino she does not need to get close Sakura can dodge her

Even IF Ino got her with mind transfer there is still a possiblity that Sakura could break out and Sakura could throw kunai at her body just as she switched bodies. This would damage Ino and Sakura would fight Ino on the mental plane

Sakura kept up with Chiyo's wires ( Sakura still needed to be fast its not like Chiyo could have done what she done with any ninja)
Sakura kept up with Sasori's 100 puppets
She was trained by Tsunade to be fast and dodge attacks
Sakura still has "Inner Sakura" to fight Mind Transfer
Sakura intercpted Garra finishing off Saskue
Sakura was able to use her speed to try and attack Saskue from behind
Sakura was fast enough to save citizens from Pain summonings
Sakkkura revelaed herself to Oro and Kabuto as fast as Naruto and Sai did

Ino can not beat Sakura with taijutsu alone and Mind Transfer is to risky. She would not use it unless she could immobliize Sakura. It would be Out of Character if Ino used it while Sakura could move

For ^ Those reasons Sakura wins

Narutorious
08-18-2012, 01:40 PM
Let's refer to the databooks at this time.

The third databook goes along with chapters 245 to 402. You can't really use these as a definite way of measuring their odds due to the fact that we are so far ahead of the last chapter. It is obvious that since that was published, Ino has improved her jutsu and skills, while we haven't seen much of a change in Sakura, except perhaps better medical ninjutsu.

But let's look at the stats anyway.

In the first databook (chapters 1-117), Ino triumphed over Sakura in terms of ninjutsu, taijutsu, speed, and stamina, but was weaker than Sakura in intelligence, genjutsu and hand seals. Sakura at this point doesn't have any jutsu, so no need for hand seals, and she doesn't have any genjutsu to use, so that doesn't really count either. Which probably means that Ino should've had higher stats but whatever.

In the second databook (chapters 118-238, Kakashi Gaiden not included, of course), Ino still wins out in ninjutsu, taijutsu, strength, speed, and stamina, Sakura having the upper edge in genjutsu, intelligence, and hand seals. Same logic applies to ninjutsu and genjutsu, but in my opinion Sakura is more book smart, and it seems as though her intelligence doesn't always help her in battle. It's almost like she has performance anxiety.

In the third databook (chapters 245-402), we are just now getting into Part II. Sakura has completed her training with Tsunade, and all of her stats have improved, the main ones being her taijutsu (1 to a 3), strength (1 to a 3), and speed (1 to a 3), while staying the same in genjutsu and handseals, and only going up by 1 in ninjutsu and stamina. She is evenly matched with Ino's stamina. Once again, the description for genjutsu, ninjutsu, and hand seals are knowledge AND skill. What gives Sakura the edge is her intelligence. Because her intelligence is so high, other stats are higher. Ino would definitely win out in terms of actual skill in these things, but she doesn't have the extensive knowledge like Sakura, who simply knows more about the mechanics and the various types, etc. That doesn't mean that Ino hasn't mastered her own techniques. Yes, during the Time Skip Sakura trained hard and improved greatly, but since then, what else has she actually improved on? Not much, while Ino continued onto to develop more skills and better herself as a ninja overall. If there were to be a fouth databook, I'm positive that Ino's stats would be higher, while Sakura's would probably stay the same, thus closing the 5 point gap in their totals. Due to the fact that the stats only go by .5, you could say that either of them could be at the very top of their range (3.8 or something) or the very low (4.0)

We already have noticed Ino's improvements in the war. We see she is better than when she and her team were fighting Hidan. We know that Asuma had told her not to lose to Sakura (highly annoying because I repeat, I hate Ino), and so that gave Ino even more motivation, inspiring her and jump-starting her training success. Seeing as she was able to keep a level head when fighting Asuma unlike Choji, we know that Ino will not be overcome by her emotions if fighting Sakura, like she did during the chunin exams.

I feel that by the third databook they are both well rounded ninjas, with each of their stats being around the same range, but Sakura has higher totals overall. However, there are more factors that play into a battle than just the characters abilities. We still have to consider Intel (prior knowledge of the enemy), Match-ups (individual skills and how they work against each other plus strengths and weaknesses), power-ups (bloodline limits, any other special powers), and scenario (environment and preparation for battle).

Intel- Ino has seen all of Sakura's tricks, while Sakura does not know of all of Ino's improvements. Ino is an expert of intel gathering. She could be just as perceptive as Sakura has been. According to the third data book, her intelligence is off by 1, but that's only because Sakura is so book smart.
Match-ups- This is a difficult one because they are pretty much opposites. Sakura is a taijutsu user, Ino ninjutsu. Sakura though, is a short range fighter while Ino can be short to mid-range. Ino's weaknesses are the uncertainty that her jutsus will hit and her less developed taijutsu. Her strengths on the other hand, are her new ninjutsu abilities, her knowledge, and ability to gain knowledge of Sakura's fighting style. Sakura's weaknesses are her non-existent jutsu and not knowing all of Ino's tricks, having not been around to witness them. Sakura's strengths are of course her taijutsu and medical ninjutsu. It could go either way with these factors.
Power-ups- Sakura has improved on almost all stats, but has no jutsu to use. Ino has furthered her jutsu abilities. She has learned to use her clan's jutsus that were originally created solely for intel gathering into a means of attack. In the anime, Ino couldn't use Mind Transfer jutsu on Sora but now in the war she was able to use it on Kinkaku. She also is now able to use Mind Clone Switch (a jutsu she recently aquired) on mutiple opponents. She could call upon some wild animals to attack Sakura and buy some time. The Yamanaka clan has special jutsu, while Sakura has none at all. Any kind that may appear to be ninjutsu (chakra scalpel) is just a derivative of medical ninjutsu. With Tsunade as the Hokage and also having power over the medic team (and thus medical training), they would have to follow her rules. She says that medic nin have to be good at hand to hand combat in order to prevent injuries, so Ino would have to learn some of that too.
Scenario- Sakura would only do well in an enclosed space. Ino could use whatever life is present in the area to her advantage (such as the hawk to spy), she also has slight sensory abilities so she could use both of those things to locate Sakura if she tried to hide. Eventually though, they'd have to get close to each other for anything to happen. As far as preparation for battle goes, Ino would probably have some flowers on her, if not she could find some, which she would try to use to poison Sakura. While it of course wouldn't do much to her, she'd still be distracted, which could heighten Ino's chances of being able to use her jutsu. Sakura doesn't have any means of distracting.

btw this took me forever to write. And PrinceofPeace, would you please calm down? Really.

None of that matters because we still haven't seen Ino in a 1-on-1 battle since Sakura in part 1, it's safe to say everyone has improve for this war, not just Ino, I agree that Ino is better now compare to what she was in the Kakuzu & Hidan arc, but as we seen before & now, she isn't the 1-on-1 type, even using the databooks, the only thing Ino beats Sakura in is Ninjutsu. Everything else you said is either assumption, such as Ino being able to poison Sakura, or just in the anime or videos games, which we don't used. What medical ninja had to do is avoided injury or worse, but like I said, Sakura is on a higher level than that because she is Tsunade apprentice, unlike the other medical ninjas.

megabbaut
08-18-2012, 01:43 PM
Ch. 532 pg 18 is when he warned them, just a page before.
Oh, I didn't see that. Well even when they were warned Choji was still unable to move , also like I said before she was the first one to react as seen when she moved her foot before anyone else did anything

Because the person she possessed was unawared & was standing still.
The point is that she got him before Shikamaru was struck by his own shadow, he even said "Nice Timing"

There wasn't even really fighting as Ino was just holding Asuma more than anything, not to mention Asuma was concious, and that doesn't prove she's faster than Sakura, doesn't even prove she's at Sakura's level.
Chapter 553 page 7 she exchanges blows with Asuma in Choji's body, and Sakura doesn't have very good taijutsu feats. She couldn't even react to Omoi's kick and you still have yet to provide any speed feats for Sakura.

Ch. 270 pg 8
Seeing through attack patterns =/= dodging.

That can never happen, Sakura will knock Ino out before Ino gets a chance because quote from Ino Ch. 335 pg 13, "I'm not as skilled as a straight foward fighter".
Although Sakura may have more physical strength, she still has to be able to hurt Ino, which she can't because Ino is faster.

And Ch.335 pg 13 is Hidan dodging Shikamaru's shadow. Fix your post.

Narutorious
08-18-2012, 01:58 PM
Oh, I didn't see that. Well even when they were warned Choji was still unable to move , also like I said before she was the first one to react as seen when she moved her foot before anyone else did anything
Chouji wasn't able dodged for mental reasons more than anything.

The point is that she got him before Shikamaru was struck by his own shadow, he even said "Nice Timing"
I don't even know what you refering to, I know Shikamaru had used his jutsu to hold Asuma, then Asuma was able to break out, then Ino saved Chouji, but regardless, they knew it was coming.

Chapter 553 page 7 she exchanges blows with Asuma in Choji's body, and Sakura doesn't have very good taijutsu feats. She couldn't even react to Omoi's kick and you still have yet to provide any speed feats for Sakura.
Basic kunai fighting isn't a real feat, basic fighting really, in fact Ino had to be saved, and Asuma isn't exactly known for his speed. Omoi kicking Sakura wasn't even a real fight, no one was going all out.

Seeing through attack patterns =/= dodging.
Really because Sasuke was able to see everything Lee was doing, & he still got beaten down, you need the speed regardless.

Although Sakura may have more physical strength, she still has to be able to hurt Ino, which she can't because Ino is faster.
And Sakura can cuz she's faster, all you doing is giving what Ino did against a person who was warning them, and ultimately almost got killed if it wasn't for Chouza, I don't remember Sasori warning Chiyo & Sakura, for Ino to be able to fight Sakura, she has to sneak up on her, which wouldn't be a 1-on-1 battle.


And Ch.335 pg 13 is Hidan dodging Shikamaru's shadow. Fix your post.

But you read the chapter then, pg 9.

darkdemonofthemist
08-18-2012, 02:29 PM
Don't want to take up the whole page. Just reiterating the fact that I hate Ino...You know what this is the SECOND time you were wrong about Manga chaps.

Please quote someone. It's hard to tell who you're raging at.

Chat 532 pg. 16 Asuma warns them to get out of the way!!!!!!
Ino was last seen about 10ft away from Choji. Shikamaru could not save Choji cuz he was busy attackin Asuma.

He was warning Choji, who was freaking out and standing there, directly in the line of fire. Ino was calm and already got out of the way. Really she didn't need to, as the Edo Tensei was directing Asuma towards Choji, not Ino and Shikamaru.

Ino had enough time AND A WARNING to easily save Choji

What would Shikamaru do? Of course Ino saved him, she was perfect for that.

PLEASE PUT IN THE SMALL TIME TO CHECK YOUR INFO OR IT IS POINTLESS AND NOT FUN TO DEBATE YOU.

You don't have to be mean to those with opposing views. We've all read or watched, otherwise we wouldn't be talking.

Ino's mind transfer is not that fast. I ask again:
-HOW WILL INO GET SAKURA WITH MIND TRANSFERED

Some means of distraction, or when Sakura is recoiling from a huge punch. Sakura can't be running/dodging/jumping/whatever 24/7. She eventually has to stop too.

-WHEN HAS INO EVER USED MIND TRANSFER AND BEEN SUCCESSFUL BY HERSELF not including when she fought Sakura)

She hasn't had enough screen time nor opportunity. It wasn't practical to designate time for her to have her own battle, as she is not a main character and Ino-Shika-Cho is much more interesting and popular.

Taijutsu is TOOOO RISKY. All Sakura needs is just ONE HIT. Do you really underestimate Sakura so much that she will not even get one hit in?? (so far taijutsu is the ONLY thing Sakura has agianst Sakura and using that is too risky)

Ninjas take risks all the time. They always resort to things that aren't their first choice. Sakura may not need one hit, when you think about it, she wouldn't be out to kill Ino. She would show some restraint because of the emotional tie.

Sakura held her own when the 100 puppets wer activated
Sakura moved fast enough to grab Sasoir's thread and recall it smash Sasori

With help from Chiyo. Remember, she ended up needing Chiyo to control her.

Sakura also has way more stamina and a better med-nin

According to the data books, she has the same amount of stamina. Yes she is a better medic nin, but it takes time to heal any significant injuries, and if Ino can't deal fatal injuries out, Sakura probably wouldn't waste her time.

Sakura is smarter and she is well aware of what Ino can do

She's smarter, yes, but it's not like Ino's dumb. Sakura hasn't seen all of Ino's improvements. It may take a few minutes to figure out. She'll do it, though.

Sakura is faster than Ino she does not need to get close Sakura can dodge her

She's faster by .5, and since they don't get more specific, Ino could be only off by .2 or something. Now, it's really a measure of Ino's jutsu speed, which there isn't a number for so we really can't say.

Even IF Ino got her with mind transfer there is still a possiblity that Sakura could break out and Sakura could throw kunai at her body just as she switched bodies. This would damage Ino and Sakura would fight Ino on the mental plane

It's definitely a possibility. But if at first you don't succeed, try, try again.

Sakura kept up with Chiyo's wires ( Sakura still needed to be fast its not like Chiyo could have done what she done with any ninja)

Chiyo was an expert puppet user. She probably could do that with any ninja.
Sakura kept up with Sasori's 100 puppets with Chiyo's help

She was trained by Tsunade to be fast and dodge attacks

Tru dat.

Sakura still has "Inner Sakura" to fight Mind Transfer

Can't say that for sure, Inner Sakura hasn't made an appearance since the very beginning of Part II.

Sakura intercpted Garra finishing off Saskue

All she did was stand up with a kunai and then proceeded to be slammed against a tree.

Sakura was able to use her speed to try and attack Saskue from behind

His vision was blurred because of the Sharingan technique he used right before.

Sakura was fast enough to save citizens from Pain summonings

Because she is a ninja, and they are not.

Sakkkura revelaed herself to Oro and Kabuto as fast as Naruto and Sai did

That wasn't a test of speed, that was coming out of the bushes.

Ino can not beat Sakura with taijutsu alone and Mind Transfer is to risky. She would not use it unless she could immobliize Sakura. It would be Out of Character if Ino used it while Sakura could move

Right, so she'd have to combine. If she needed to resort, she would. Gotta do what you gotta do.

For ^ Those reasons Sakura wins

It would be a very long, drawn out fight.

megabbaut
08-18-2012, 02:50 PM
Chouji wasn't able dodged for mental reasons more than anything.
But I don't think Kishi would do that to Choji lol

I don't even know what you refering to, I know Shikamaru had used his jutsu to hold Asuma, then Asuma was able to break out, then Ino saved Chouji, but regardless, they knew it was coming.
I'm talking about Chapter 529 page 16, if Mind Transfer wasn't fast then it would've never made it at all

Basic kunai fighting isn't a real feat, basic fighting really, in fact Ino had to be saved, and Asuma isn't exactly known for his speed. Omoi kicking Sakura wasn't even a real fight, no one was going all out.
But Asuma wasn't using basic kunai, he was using his signature Chakra Blades for taijutsu (or kenjutsu) which he specializes in. Even if Sakura wasn't going out she shouldn't have gotten kicked

Really because Sasuke was able to see everything Lee was doing, & he still got beaten down, you need the speed regardless.
Sasuke couldn't keep up with Lee's attack patterns.

It's like Sasuke & Itachi vs Kabuto, where Kabuto like "I know he's going to use a Katon" but he fails to dodge it anyway. They're two completely different things.

And Sakura can cuz she's faster, all you doing is giving what Ino did against a person who was warning them, and ultimately almost got killed if it wasn't for Chouza, I don't remember Sasori warning Chiyo & Sakura, for Ino to be able to fight Sakura, she has to sneak up on her, which wouldn't be a 1-on-1 battle.
You keep saying Sakura is faster but you haven't been proven it. You've only referenced the Sasori fight which was all the work of Chiyo moving Sakura around, plus Sakura just saw through Sasori's attack patterns by studying the movements of his fingers.

Also I don't know why you keep talking about the 1-on-1 battle stuff when Sakura hasn't been in one either besides the one against Ino herself.

That can never happen, Sakura will knock Ino out before Ino gets a chance because quote from Ino Ch. 335 pg 13, "I'm not as skilled as a straight foward fighter".

But you read the chapter then, pg 9.
I found it. Well to contradict that she was keeping up pretty well against Sakura in the Chunin Exams, and also that was back in the Hidan/Kakuzu arc which was before she started showing speed feats so she probably improved over the last 200 chapters leading into the war.

BMC1994
08-18-2012, 03:50 PM
Please tell what speed feats ino has other then '''herp derp she dodged asuma mach 1337 wind attack derp'' she doesnt have anything else.

Mean while sakura reacted to an s-class criminal yes with chiyos help the same chiyo which later admitted that she already saw through his attacks even without her help.

megabbaut
08-18-2012, 04:58 PM
She is faster than, let's say, Shikamaru. Because when Asuma launched his attack against Choji they both raced to save him but Ino beat Shikamaru to the punch and rescued Choji first by a long shot.

darkdemonofthemist
08-18-2012, 05:06 PM
Please tell what speed feats ino has other then '''herp derp she dodged asuma mach 1337 wind attack derp'' she doesnt have anything else.

Mean while sakura reacted to an s-class criminal yes with chiyos help the same chiyo which later admitted that she already saw through his attacks even without her help.

It's all in theory, since Ino hasn't had the chance.

PrinceofPeace
08-18-2012, 05:33 PM
For get about stats and speed and all that junk

The main question is : How does Ino get Sakura with Mind Transfer Jutsu????

That is the ONLY way Ino can win. Some say Ino has great Taijutsu but that is tooo risky.

How will Ino immobolize Sakura??

Hinata126
08-18-2012, 05:59 PM
Maibe by trapping Sakura but it brobably would'nt work lol ;)

PrinceofPeace
08-18-2012, 06:06 PM
Whats Baibe???

Are you for or against Sakura winning

Dragon Style
08-18-2012, 07:01 PM
I don't have much time to be on here, but I'll just say this before I go, a lot of people are talking about mind transfer Jutsu, but they have also forgotten about Mind Destruction which is much faster than mind transfer and doesn't require her to leave her body. Ino was said to have surpassed her sensei Asuma in Taijutsu skills which may not make her physically stronger than Sakura, but that does make her a better fighter along with the fact that Ino now has her new mind clone jutsu to back her up.

In the end everything Sakura has to do requires her to get close, while Ino's doesn't, so I've kind of got to go with Ino on this one.

Larry01239
08-18-2012, 07:13 PM
Ino was said to have surpassed her sensei Asuma in Taijutsu skills

When was this stated?

PrinceofPeace
08-18-2012, 07:17 PM
@Butt

How do you know what Kishi will do or not do. Choji is a wuss and could barely fight. You are not even using evidence or proof anymore

Mind Transfer is still not fast enough and it is only good to use on an opponent that can not move.

If Ino gets in close it is all over for her. Sakura just needs ONE HIT to win

You have not proved how Ino is faster. I showed Sakura's speed feats. Even in Leaf ninja or Narutopedia Sakura is faster and has better stats. Sakura also beat Fuen in a 1v1 battle

@Dragon

Mind disturbance does not do anything. Sakura can fight it and Ino has to stay still. Ino and sakura would still have to be standing still for the attack to work. Ino would be wide open

Dragon Style
08-18-2012, 07:34 PM
I don't know what these people are planning to do so I'll just stay on until they actually say we have to leave.

Mind Body Disturbance Technique: A ninjutsu where one sends their chakra into the subject's nervous system, thus operating the enemies body at will. The enemies this technique is cast upon are completely under the users' control as their bodies become disconnected from their will. The difference between this, and the Mind Body Switch Technique is, the caster doesn't project their consciousness into the enemies body. Situations of numerical superiority for the adversary are precisely where this technique, which freely manipulates human beings will display its efficiency, by getting the enemies to turn on one another. Control can be exerted even from a distance.

I hardly call that nothing and rather she has to stand still or not Sakura has to get close, so Ino would just move before she could get to her, not to mention that Sakura could easily just be caught in Mind Body Disturbance. The only reason she broke out of Ino's jutsu the first time was because she was low on chakra from the forest of death, but that wouldn't be the case anymore.

When was this stated?

I don't remember I think it was around the time they fought Asuma in the manga or before he died or something

PrinceofPeace
08-18-2012, 07:39 PM
Her foes and herself were standing still when they were using the attack

Larry01239
08-18-2012, 07:50 PM
The only reason she broke out of Ino's jutsu the first time was because she was low on chakra from the forest of death,
Sakura was low on chakra as well, so your claim is invalid.

Dragon Style
08-18-2012, 08:03 PM
Sakura was low on chakra as well, so your claim is invalid.

Not really, because that was the reason that Kakashi gave for her breaking out of it, along with Naruto's cheering, but neither of those would be factor here.

Her foes and herself were standing still when they were using the attack

The jutsu says nothing about her needing people the stand still, that's just how they chose to pull it off, now am I saying that it wouldn't be harder for her to use her jutsu's while a person was moving no, however, mind disturbance is much faster and is and has a wider range that mind body switch so it would be much easier for her to use.

Larry01239
08-18-2012, 08:09 PM
Not really, because that was the reason that Kakashi gave for her breaking out of it, along with Naruto's cheering, but neither of those would be factor here. Chapter and page?

PrinceofPeace
08-18-2012, 08:11 PM
The jutsu says nothing about her needing people the stand still, that's just how they chose to pull it off, now am I saying that it wouldn't be harder for her to use her jutsu's while a person was moving no, however, mind disturbance is much faster and is and has a wider range that mind body switch so it would be much easier for her to use.

Proof on that bud
Ino and her dad and their foes were standing still
How would it catch a moving target

Dragon Style
08-18-2012, 08:26 PM
Proof on that bud
Ino and her dad and their foes were standing still
How would it catch a moving target

Once again that is just how they chose to pull it off.

During the invasion Ino's father pulled if off without Shikaku or Chozo or Choza whatever his name is and before he caught them with it, they were moving.

During her fight with Sakura when she tricked everyone into thinking that she did the mind transfer jutsu Shikamru simply said it would be risky for her to try it without him, implying that it could be done without his shadow possession jutsu.

Mind Disturbance is wide ranged and long distance, so Sakura would have to run very, very far away to avoid being hit by it. It is not mind body switch, it is not slow and it is not mid ranged.

PrinceofPeace
08-18-2012, 08:45 PM
Why would you be standing still when you could attack ur foe. Anway Ino used that attack in a filler (I wish filler counted) And besides even if it did count I thought Shikamaru caught the foe in shadow posseision first.

Ino is nowhere near the level of her dad

Of course she can still use her attack but it is nearly SUICIDE

Mind Disturbance was only used in fillers against weaker foes

darkdemonofthemist
08-18-2012, 08:58 PM
Why would you be standing still when you could attack ur foe. Anway Ino used that attack in a filler (I wish filler counted) And besides even if it did count I thought Shikamaru caught the foe in shadow posseision first.

Ino is nowhere near the level of her dad

Of course she can still use her attack but it is nearly SUICIDE

Mind Disturbance was only used in fillers against weaker foes

If fillers don't count then why do you keep referring to Fuen? In this case, Sakura hasn't fought anyone one on one either.

Dragon Style
08-18-2012, 08:59 PM
Why would you be standing still when you could attack ur foe. Anway Ino used that attack in a filler (I wish filler counted) And besides even if it did count I thought Shikamaru caught the foe in shadow posseision first.

Ino is nowhere near the level of her dad

Of course she can still use her attack but it is nearly SUICIDE

Mind Disturbance was only used in fillers against weaker foes

Listen man, you asked me if the jutsu could be pulled off without her opponent standing still and I proved that it could.

You have no idea if Ino is on the same level as her dad or not, because he Shikaku and Chozo, Choza whatever his name is have already basically said that they are ready to take over had head of the clans, they just haven't told them personally yet, which means that either she is on his level, she has surpassed him or she has just proven herself strong enough to do so.

Yes Shikamaru did say that would be risky for her to use the Mind Body Switch without him, however he never said that it couldn't be pulled off.

You pretend as if Mind Disturbance couldn't be used against stronger foes and even so she still has mind clone switch which is faster than mind body switch and can curve unlike mind body switch which was slow and could only go in a straight line.

You can either count Mind Disturbance or you won't however, not to be rude, but don't make me waste my time explaining to you how something can be used if later on you're just going to tell me how it doesn't count. I could have been using that time to explain something else instead.

PrinceofPeace
08-18-2012, 10:15 PM
That is what I am trying to figure out!! Do fillers count? Since it is not in the OP than no I guess. Which is dumb!!

PROVE INO IS ON THE SAME LEVEL OF HER DAD!!! If She was she would be doing the jobs her dad is. Wow you are making stuff up and assuming now!! So Ino can take over the clan when she is still a teenager! Also Ino can do everything her dad is doing!! Ino's dad has way more jutsu and Ino is barely a sensor ninja.

Exactly it is risky that means a low chance of happening and you have not said how Ino gets Sakura with her mind atttacks ( apparently Mind Disturbance does not count now)

There is nobody else that Ino can use their minds to fight sakura. this is just a 1v1 battle there is nobody else Ino can help fight with her

I am not making the rules. Sorry pal but do not blame me for you wasting your own time. For some dumb reason we can not use fillers.

There is nothing else Ino can do. Plus you act like it is IMPOSSIBLE for Sakura to break out of any of Ino's mind jutsus

Just look at them polls bud

Dragon Style
08-18-2012, 10:52 PM
That is what I am trying to figure out!! Do fillers count? Since it is not in the OP than no I guess. Which is dumb!!

PROVE INO IS ON THE SAME LEVEL OF HER DAD!!! If She was she would be doing the jobs her dad is. Wow you are making stuff up and assuming now!! So Ino can take over the clan when she is still a teenager! Also Ino can do everything her dad is doing!! Ino's dad has way more jutsu and Ino is barely a sensor ninja.

Exactly it is risky that means a low chance of happening and you have not said how Ino gets Sakura with her mind atttacks ( apparently Mind Disturbance does not count now)

There is nobody else that Ino can use their minds to fight sakura. this is just a 1v1 battle there is nobody else Ino can help fight with her

I am not making the rules. Sorry pal but do not blame me for you wasting your own time. For some dumb reason we can not use fillers.

There is nothing else Ino can do. Plus you act like it is IMPOSSIBLE for Sakura to break out of any of Ino's mind jutsus

Just look at them polls bud

I am not making stuff up, they said they were ready to take over the clans to eachother and I hardly see what Ino being a teenager has to do with it, may I remind you that Gaara is only 16 and Kazakage. I never said that she was stronger or on the same level as her dad I said that since they thought that (Ino, Shikamaru and Choji) were ready to take over the clans that it either meant that she had surpassed her dad, she was on the same level as her dad or she had just proved that she was strong enough to do so. whcih means she could be on the same level or not far behind him. Please, please read before you accuse me of things.

when I mentioned Mind Disturbance, you asked me to prove that it could be used on moving targets, I would not have wasted my time explaining it if I already knew that it didn't count. What I am telling you is DO NOT ask me questions about things that you already know don't count, if it didn't count you should have just said that it didn't count not waste my time by asking me to prove something to you about it.

And you pretend as if it would be super easy for her break out of them since it wasn't easy for her to do the first time and the only reason she got out was because of Ino's lack of chakra an Naruto's cheering.

Mind clone switch could be used in many other ways, it could be used to catch Sakura since it is faster and can curve and depending on where they are she could use it to take control of animals and Attack Sakura with them.

As for how, she could trick Sakura the same why she did the first time, with a few changes to how it goes down. Like it said Sakura has to get close so when she tied to run up on her Ino could get her in the hair trap again only this time she might use wire or something, because if she cut off her hair, Sakura will probably catch on.

PrinceofPeace
08-18-2012, 11:15 PM
I am not making stuff up, they said they were ready to take over the clans to eachother and I hardly see what Ino being a teenager has to do with it, may I remind you that Gaara is only 16 and Kazakage. I never said that she was stronger or on the same level as her dad I said that since they thought that (Ino, Shikamaru and Choji) were ready to take over the clans that it either meant that she had surpassed her dad, she was on the same level as her dad or she had just proved that she was strong enough to do so. whcih means she could be on the same level or not far behind him. Please, please read before you accuse me of things.

just because they are ready does not mean they are on the same level. Their parents would still wreck their children. Garra had a bijju in him and was way stronger than Ino.

when I mentioned Mind Disturbance, you asked me to prove that it could be used on moving targets, I would not have wasted my time explaining it if I already knew that it didn't count. What I am telling you is DO NOT ask me questions about things that you already know don't count, if it didn't count you should have just said that it didn't count not waste my time by asking me to prove something to you about it.

I explained Sakura fighting Furen which is not allowed either. Do not bring up Mind Disturbance in the first place then. This is not my fault. You wasted your own time you do not have ot debate here in the first place.

And you pretend as if it would be super easy for her break out of them since it wasn't easy for her to do the first time and the only reason she got out was because of Ino's lack of chakra an Naruto's cheering.

I never said that it would be easy, yet you imply that Ino can get close enough to use taijutsu or use mind transfer without Hinata getting ONE HIT IN. That was a LONG time ago like 3yrs.

Mind clone switch could be used in many other ways, it could be used to catch Sakura since it is faster and can curve and depending on where they are she could use it to take control of animals and Attack Sakura with them.

She still only used that attack when she had back up. It would een be OUT OF CHARACTER for Ino to use that move in the first place. Sakura can easily destroy ANY animals. UNLESS!!!
Tell me how Ino immoblizes Sakura

As for how, she could trick Sakura the same why she did the first time, with a few changes to how it goes down. Like it said Sakura has to get close so when she tied to run up on her Ino could get her in the hair trap again only this time she might use wire or something, because if she cut off her hair, Sakura will probably catch on.

You really think Sakura will fall for the same trick twice?!?!?!? Using Wire would be a dead give away



The only way Ino would use Mind Transfer In Character is if she would immoblize Sakura

So my friend

HOW DOES INO STOP SAKURA FROM MOVING

Dragon Style
08-18-2012, 11:47 PM
The only way Ino would use Mind Transfer In Character is if she would immoblize Sakura

So my friend

HOW DOES INO STOP SAKURA FROM MOVING

I said they they are either on the same level or not far behind, I never said they were definitely stronger than them, but they are well on their way. Also this is not about Gaara being stronger than Ino, you asked how could Ino be ready to take over the clan when she is only a teenager, rather Gaara was Bijuu or not, reguardless of his strength, he is still the Kazakage and he is on 16 which still makes him a teenager. Saruboi was also made Hokage before he was grown man and I'm pretty sure that he's stronger than Ino too, but that doesn't change the fact that he was a teenager.

When I mentioned it, you should have just said that it didn't count instead of asking me questions about it, you didn't hesitate to try tell me that Welcoming Approach: Thousand Arm Murder didn't count in Asuma vs Yamato, so what made you hesitate now?

You pretend as if Sakura could get close to Ino without risking being caught by her jutsu, you pretend as if Ino wouldn't get a hit in if they into a tiajutsu fight too. Ino also has a Tanto she can use in fighting against Sakura too.

Depeneding on where they are, like the forest of death or the turtle island Ino could take control of pleantly of animals that could give Sakura a hard time. Out of character? I don't see how you can say that when she used it on Sakura once before without Shikamaru, so why is suddenly so impossible for you to think that she would do it now.


Wire has little to no visibility so how would Sakura see it laying on the ground if she is busy trying to change Ino?

megabbaut
08-19-2012, 06:23 AM
@Butt

How do you know what Kishi will do or not do. Choji is a wuss and could barely fight. You are not even using evidence or proof anymore

Mind Transfer is still not fast enough and it is only good to use on an opponent that can not move.

If Ino gets in close it is all over for her. Sakura just needs ONE HIT to win

You have not proved how Ino is faster. I showed Sakura's speed feats. Even in Leaf ninja or Narutopedia Sakura is faster and has better stats. Sakura also beat Fuen in a 1v1 battle
Yeah but at the very least he'd be smart enough not to make Choji just stand there like a statue only to be open to attack.

It saved Shikamaru just in time before he got killed by his own shadow. God my do I have to repeat myself...

Sakura can't hit Ino if Ino is faster than her. She kept up with Asuma in taijutsu, and Asuma is on a whole other level than Sakura by far.

And no, you never showed any of Sakura's speed feats. Nor have you given any chapter references. Narutopedia is unreliable as anyone can edit it, also Fuen was a filler battle.

BMC1994
08-19-2012, 08:54 AM
Yeah but at the very least he'd be smart enough not to make Choji just stand there like a statue only to be open to attack.

It saved Shikamaru just in time before he got killed by his own shadow. God my do I have to repeat myself...

Sakura can't hit Ino if Ino is faster than her. She kept up with Asuma in taijutsu, and Asuma is on a whole other level than Sakura by far.

And no, you never showed any of Sakura's speed feats. Nor have you given any chapter references. Narutopedia is unreliable as anyone can edit it, also Fuen was a filler battle.

Seriously why is this still going on Sakura Baits mind transfer, SIDESTEPS IT because it only moves in a straight line. And proceeds to skull bash the defenseless ino ( transfer fail comes with a cost its not like she can spam it) with montrous strenght.

Also ever heard of MODS you know the reason why wiki isnt filled with a monster lists of joke articles? You probably didnt.

Sakura kept up with kakashi (bell test) and she still is nowhere near kakashi level. Besides the fact that asuma shouted what he was gonna do next the whole fight.

And finally asuma didnt have MONTROUS STRENGHT THAT MAKES SOLID ROCK LOOK LIKE CARDBOARD. If asuma did have that then both chouji and ino would been dead just like asuma.

PrinceofPeace
08-19-2012, 09:45 AM
I said they they are either on the same level or not far behind, I never said they were definitely stronger than them, but they are well on their way. Also this is not about Gaara being stronger than Ino, you asked how could Ino be ready to take over the clan when she is only a teenager, rather Gaara was Bijuu or not, reguardless of his strength, he is still the Kazakage and he is on 16 which still makes him a teenager. Saruboi was also made Hokage before he was grown man and I'm pretty sure that he's stronger than Ino too, but that doesn't change the fact that he was a teenager.

Also Garra was the strongest in the village. Comparing her to Garra is just silly. Yes a young person can lead but Ino is not strong enough.

When I mentioned it, you should have just said that it didn't count instead of asking me questions about it, you didn't hesitate to try tell me that Welcoming Approach: Thousand Arm Murder didn't count in Asuma vs Yamato, so what made you hesitate now?

I did not know it did not count.I am not talking about a different fight with you it is off topic. YOU WATED YOUR OWN TIME I DID NOT KNOW AND IT IS NOT MY FAULT. Stop complianing this is not even proving that Ino would win.

You pretend as if Sakura could get close to Ino without risking being caught by her jutsu, you pretend as if Ino wouldn't get a hit in if they into a tiajutsu fight too. Ino also has a Tanto she can use in fighting against Sakura too.

Into's Tanto is not standard. Also if you have been reading the post I said I stated that Sakura can through stuff at her. Yes Ino and Sskaur would BOTH get hit if they went into taijutsu. DO YOU REALLY THINK SAKURA WOULD NOT GET HIT IF THEY WENT INTO A TAIJUTSU BATTLE?? Ino is not a taijutsu expert nor is she very fast. Sakura would get hit but also Ino. Even IF Ino had time to make the hand sign to use mind transfer Sakura would know to dodge or quickly punch her or subsite with something that may have a mind.

Depeneding on where they are, like the forest of death or the turtle island Ino could take control of pleantly of animals that could give Sakura a hard time. Out of character? I don't see how you can say that when she used it on Sakura once before without Shikamaru, so why is suddenly so impossible for you to think that she would do it now.

glad you brought this up. If they were fighting in the areas you mentioned Sakura could throw a tree or a boulder at ino. Sakura would watch out for animals and Sakura could take on any animal with her strength. Ino using mind transfer is Out of Character UNLESS Ino can immoblize Sakura !!!! I just said this in the last post

Wire has little to no visibility so how would Sakura see it laying on the ground if she is busy trying to change Ino?

1- We do not even know if Wire would work
2- Sakura would see Ino trying to get out wire
3- If Ino gets out wire her hands are busy and is open for an attack
4- How would Sakura not see her throwing the wire onto the ground
5- Ninja Wire is not invisible
6- Sakura is brilliant she would catch on to her plan no dobut




Ino has no way to immoblize Sakura so Ino loses

Sakura is CRUSHING in the polls

megabbaut
08-19-2012, 09:49 AM
Seriously why is this still going on Sakura Baits mind transfer, SIDESTEPS IT because it only moves in a straight line. And proceeds to skull bash the defenseless ino ( transfer fail comes with a cost its not like she can spam it) with montrous strenght.

Also ever heard of MODS you know the reason why wiki isnt filled with a monster lists of joke articles? You probably didnt.

Sakura kept up with kakashi (bell test) and she still is nowhere near kakashi level. Besides the fact that asuma shouted what he was gonna do next the whole fight.

And finally asuma didnt have MONTROUS STRENGHT THAT MAKES SOLID ROCK LOOK LIKE CARDBOARD. If asuma did have that then both chouji and ino would been dead just like asuma.
Why would Ino use Mind Transfer if she knows it's not going to work? Plus she tried to do it before in the Chunin Exams and it didn't work.

No, she didn't keep up with Kakashi at all. He put her in a low level genjutsu.

Monsterous strength means nothing if you can't hit your opponent. Omoi kicked Sakura before she could even punch him, imagine who has more speed feats and could keep up with her sensei who specializes in taijutsu.

This debate is over until someone provides a Sakura speed feat.

Larry01239
08-19-2012, 09:52 AM
Since when does Asuma specialize in Taijutsu?

megabbaut
08-19-2012, 09:54 AM
Since when does Asuma specialize in Taijutsu?
He fights with his signature chakra blades, which is a form of taijutsu, or kenjutsu if you want to call it that

PrinceofPeace
08-19-2012, 09:55 AM
@Butt^ NO IT IS NOT

You have BARELY given any speed feat for Ino!!!!!!
This is why ur "speed feat" for Ino is not impressive

- Asuma warned everyone to get out of the way
- Shikamaru was busy trying to attack Asuma with his shadows so he could not help
- Ino was about 10ft away from choji
- Asuma had to make hand signs

This is nothing special Ino is not that fast. Ino and Sakura are about the same speed. Even if this was a good speed feat it does not show anything. It is not like Ino can blitz Sakura.

I am tired of giving up Chaps and pages cuz you have been reading the wrong thing over and over

You want this battle to be over cuz you know ur wrong. You have not convinced anyone that Ino is faster.

megabbaut
08-19-2012, 10:00 AM
@Butt^ NO IT IS NOT

You have BARELY given any speed feat for Ino!!!!!!
This is why ur "speed feat" for Ino is not impressive

- Asuma warned everyone to get out of the way
- Shikamaru was busy trying to attack Asuma with his shadows so he could not help
- Ino was about 10ft away from choji
- Asuma had to make hand signs

This is nothing special Ino is not that fast. Ino and Sakura are about the same speed. Even if this was a good speed feat it does not show anything. It is not like Ino can blitz Sakura.

I am tired of giving up Chaps and pages cuz you have been reading the wrong thing over and over

You want this battle to be over cuz you know ur wrong. You have not convinced anyone that Ino is faster.
It's better than anything Sakura has shown, and you still haven't provided a single Sakura feat to prove they are the same speed, nor a chapter reference.

PrinceofPeace
08-19-2012, 10:07 AM
Why bother giving you chap references when you do not look them up correctly and you give inncorect ones.

Right now Sakura and Ino have equal speed at best
Even if your speed feat was vaild she still is not that much faster
Your only repetitive argument is that Ino is faster... SO WHAT
What will speed give Ino what can she do with it
Even IF Ino is faster it is by a micro-second
In Narutopedia and Leafninja Sakura is faster (they are nice references)

So get off the speed topic.
THe real question is this
How can Ino Immoblize Sakura to use mind transfer

megabbaut
08-19-2012, 10:14 AM
Why bother giving you chap references when you do not look them up correctly and you give inncorect ones.

Right now Sakura and Ino have equal speed at best
Even if your speed feat was vaild she still is not that much faster
Your only repetitive argument is that Ino is faster... SO WHAT
What will speed give Ino what can she do with it
Even IF Ino is faster it is by a micro-second
In Narutopedia and Leafninja Sakura is faster (they are nice references)

So get off the speed topic.
THe real question is this
How can Ino Immoblize Sakura to use mind transfer
Still no Sakura speed feat.

Ino doesn't need mind transfer to win. Sakura tries to attack, Ino dodges (since speed feats have already been provided) and dominates her in taijutsu (she kept up with Asuma in that category)

PrinceofPeace
08-19-2012, 10:21 AM
So you are saying if Ino and Sakura get into a taijustu battle.....



SAKURA WILL NOT EVEN HIT HER ONCE

megabbaut
08-19-2012, 10:23 AM
Supported by the facts:

Ino kept up with Asuma in Tai.

Sakura got kicked by Omoi before she was able to attack.

Uchiha Sora
08-19-2012, 10:31 AM
I doubt she wouldn't get hit once. She can't keep dodging forever, she'd eventually have to block. And bllocking Sakura's punches is a bad idea.

PrinceofPeace
08-19-2012, 10:40 AM
IT really was not even Asuma.. it barely was even a battle both did not go all out
Sakura was in an emotional wreck and she was not trying to hurt anybody

You are really underestimating Sakura and forgetting a lot
- Sakura's evasioness (durring the 100 puppets)
-Sakura can easily read her foe's fighting style and movements
- fought many puppets with taijutsu without reciving a scratch

Chiyo stated that she barely needed help in dodging attacks


Sakura speed feats
- getting in front of Garra when Garra was trying to hurt Saskue
- Quickly reavealing herself to Oro as fast as Sai and Naruto
- Saved villagers from giant bug by Pain
- Sakura attempting to attack Saskue from behind
- Destroyin the white zetsu that looked like Neji

Also Ino was using Choji's body to fight so that does not mean she is as good as Asuma in taijustu when she was using a different body

megabbaut
08-19-2012, 10:52 AM
I doubt she wouldn't get hit once. She can't keep dodging forever, she'd eventually have to block. And bllocking Sakura's punches is a bad idea.
She'd be forced to keep dodging, but she could kick Sakura away like Omoi did.

IT really was not even Asuma.. it barely was even a battle both did not go all out
Sakura was in an emotional wreck and she was not trying to hurt anybody

You are really underestimating Sakura and forgetting a lot
- Sakura's evasioness (durring the 100 puppets)
-Sakura can easily read her foe's fighting style and movements
- fought many puppets with taijutsu without reciving a scratch

Chiyo stated that she barely needed help in dodging attacks


Sakura speed feats
- getting in front of Garra when Garra was trying to hurt Saskue
- Quickly reavealing herself to Oro as fast as Sai and Naruto
- Saved villagers from giant bug by Pain
- Sakura attempting to attack Saskue from behind
- Destroyin the white zetsu that looked like Neji
Yeah, you're right. Asuma was an Edo so Kabuto was controlling him.
Thank you for finally pointing out Sakura's feats.

The first speed feat you listed is invalid for the same reason you pointed out about Ino's feat: Sakura was about 10 ft away from Sasuke.

But I tell you what, even though you didn't provide any chapter/pages, I'll give you the victory and say Sakura wins since you provided some feats for Sakura. Heck I'll even give you rep for giving me a good debate =D

Hey Sora can you lock this now that you're a mod since we all came to a satisfying conclusion on this?

PrinceofPeace
08-19-2012, 11:09 AM
I pointed out Sakura's speed feats in page 3

Ify my first reason is invalid due to it is the same as Sakura than like I said They have equal speed

okay cool Yea!!

Sakura wins

Please Lock

darkdemonofthemist
08-19-2012, 02:59 PM
I think that for future debates we all need to establish some rules about fillers.

I think it would best if it went like this:

-Fillers not based on the plot of the manga do not count (movies, made up characters, side stories)
-Fillers that are within the regular plot but make subtle changes or additions do count (a jutsu not seen in the manga but during an actual battle that occurred)

So basically what I'm saying is that the battle with Fuen doesn't count, but I would think Mind Body Disturbance does because we have seen it performed before by Inoichi

Also, please monitor the way you are talking to people while debating. A good debate does not include any yelling (unnecessary use of all caps), name calling (claiming someone is an idiot for not sharing the same views), or anger. Keep calm, and keep it respectful.

BMC1994
08-19-2012, 03:22 PM
I think that for future debates we all need to establish some rules about fillers.

I think it would best if it went like this:

-Fillers not based on the plot of the manga do not count (movies, made up characters, side stories)
-Fillers that are within the regular plot but make subtle changes or additions do count (a jutsu not seen in the manga but during an actual battle that occurred)

So basically what I'm saying is that the battle with Fuen doesn't count, but I would think Mind Body Disturbance does because we have seen it performed before by Inoichi

Also, please monitor the way you are talking to people while debating. A good debate does not include any yelling (unnecessary use of all caps), name calling (claiming someone is an idiot for not sharing the same views), or anger. Keep calm, and keep it respectful.

Dont the rules say fillers arent used as long as it isnt specified in the OP.

darkdemonofthemist
08-19-2012, 03:25 PM
Dont the rules say fillers arent used as long as it isnt specified in the OP.
Perhaps I mispoke. What I should've said was details changed or added in a regular episode.

Uchiha Sora
08-19-2012, 03:28 PM
@Darkdemon Those are.... All my lines... <_<

Anything not coming from the manga directly isn't valid unless the OP specifies.

PoP watch the caps :lol:
Lockin this

Shikamaru Nara
08-20-2012, 05:46 AM
So? How's it feel? :lol:
Anyway, just for the record, it's called cnannon Sora.

Uchiha Sora
08-20-2012, 08:39 AM
*Canon :lol:

Shikamaru Nara
08-20-2012, 08:40 AM
I don't think you get it. :lol:

Uchiha Sora
08-20-2012, 09:08 AM
Guess not. :lol: