If Tobi can, why can't Kakashi?

[Naruto321]

Now here's a question I have been thinking the whole day.

Since Tobi can send his body to another dimension and Kakashi can also send objects to another dimension, why can't Kakashi have that same ability that Tobi has to make himself phase out.

[kaidawanderer]

Hm. Still can't say for sure is Tobi is an Uchiha or not. But normally I would say it's because Kakashi has a limited Chakra pool and his body is not Uchiha. Although he has been displaying absurd amounts of chakra against Tobi. (Kamui spam!~)

[Nameless Shinobi]

First of all Kakashi is not an uchiha so his ability is limited and he don't have enough power to deal with his MS
and Kakashi is barely know kamui and that space time thing, so i guess he not use to it yet

[Naruto321]

But how do we know that Tobi is an Uchiha before he had the Rinnegan.

[ILIKEPIE]

the eyes have different abilties like how Itachi's left eye has Tsukuyomi and his right has Amarerasu

[Naruto321]

So your telling me that His left eye holds Kamui and the other holds him to use Space Time Migration?

[Kakashi Hatake_Yamato]

the eyes have different abilties like how Itachi's left eye has Tsukuyomi and his right has Amarerasu
thinking of the same thing with pie

[Naruto321]

But the eye he has is Obito's and yet he is still able to materialize.

[Kakashi Hatake_Yamato]

see previous

[kaidawanderer]

If that's the case, wouldn't that mean Kakashi could (theoretically) use Izanagi eventually? 'Cause it seems that this ability usually resides in the left eye.

[Nameless Shinobi]

i guess so, but it will burn the eye
tobi got uchiha hatred and sharingan ability, i guess he's an uchiha

[outsidethebar]

left eye is for putting things in dimension

right is for going in there

[Naruto321]

If that's the case, wouldn't that mean Kakashi could (theoretically) use Izanagi eventually? 'Cause it seems that this ability usually resides in the left eye.

If he uses it its gone. But I doubt he knows Izanagi anyway.

it's cuz kakashi isn't a fricken Uchiha. just a little annoying copy cat


left eye is for putting things in dimension

right is for going in there


Could be, But they both are the same ability. If thats the case with Itachi, then it has to be the same with Obito's ability.

[and17y1]

Now here's a question I have been thinking the whole day.

Since Tobi can send his body to another dimension and Kakashi can also send objects to another dimension, why can't Kakashi have that same ability that Tobi has to make himself phase out.

Havent readen all the comments.

Maybe because Kakashi uses mangekyou sharingan to do so. Tobi uses a normal sharingan and his effectivness is 50% more than kakashi's mangekyou sharingan but how did Tobi achieve this state is still unknown.

But the answer is the mangekyou is the whole problem. Drains too much chakra, bleeding, chances of eye sight loss. Normal sharingan - no such problems. Yet 50% more effective using teleportation. Maybe Senju's cells help.

[Mangetsu Hozuki]

the eyes have different abilties like how Itachi's left eye has Tsukuyomi and his right has Amarerasu

Yes. One eyes sucks things in to another dimension, and the other teleports yourself to another dimension. Like Sasuke's Sharingan - one side can create Amaterasu, and one can put it out.

[Mangetsu Hozuki]

If that's the case, wouldn't that mean Kakashi could (theoretically) use Izanagi eventually? 'Cause it seems that this ability usually resides in the left eye.

Tobi said that one needs to have Senju and Uchiha DNA to use Izanagi. (But that raisees another question - see this http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118255)

[Larry01239]

the eyes have different abilties like how Itachi's left eye has Tsukuyomi and his right has Amarerasu
Yep, that's how it has been.

[Naruto321]

So what would that be for Tobi since he use to have 2 Sharingan before from using Izanagi?

[Rasen_Chidori]

Obito's Right Eye:



Has the ability to make ones body intangible by sending any part of ones own body that comes into contact with an object that the user wasn't touching when the technique was activated temporarily to another dimension.



Has the ability to send objects to another dimension as long as the user is in contact with them, the user may also bring any object sent to the dimension back if they wish.



Allows the user to enter another dimension in order to travel large distances in a short space of time.

Obito's Left Eye:



Allows the user to send objects to another dimension by creating a worm-hole of sorts anywhere within the users field of vision, however this eye does not have the ability to bring objects back from the other dimension.

[Kyūbi no Yōko]

Now here's a question I have been thinking the whole day.

Since Tobi can send his body to another dimension and Kakashi can also send objects to another dimension, why can't Kakashi have that same ability that Tobi has to make himself phase out.

Sharingans aren't really the same, or maybe he just couldn't develop the jutsu.

[Naruto321]

Sharingans aren't really the same, or maybe he just couldn't develop the jutsu.

Obito's Right Eye:



Has the ability to make ones body intangible by sending any part of ones own body that comes into contact with an object that the user wasn't touching when the technique was activated temporarily to another dimension.



Has the ability to send objects to another dimension as long as the user is in contact with them, the user may also bring any object sent to the dimension back if they wish.



Allows the user to enter another dimension in order to travel large distances in a short space of time.

Obito's Left Eye:



Allows the user to send objects to another dimension by creating a worm-hole of sorts anywhere within the users field of vision, however this eye does not have the ability to bring objects back from the other dimension.


This ^

[Rikudo Sage]

Now here's a question I have been thinking the whole day.

Since Tobi can send his body to another dimension and Kakashi can also send objects to another dimension, why can't Kakashi have that same ability that Tobi has to make himself phase out.
I have 2 theory for this..

1. Simply Kakashi's Sharringan functionality is not the same as Tobi's. i.e. Itachi uses His left eye for Tsukuyomi and right eye for Amaterasu.

2. Could be because of Hashirama DNA implanted to Tobi. We know for a fact that Hashirama DNA can increase the level of eye techniques. i.e Shisui can only use Kotoamatsukami once every 10 years whilst Danzo can use the same jutsu after couple of hours from the 1st usage. That's why Tobi's S/T jutsu is more advance than Kakashi's
Tobi said that one needs to have Senju and Uchiha DNA to use Izanagi. (But that raisees another question - see this http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118255)
This is very true.. Tobi clearly stated that Senju and Uchiha DNA are required to activate Izanagi. However, Izanagi won't be forbidden jutsu among the Uchiha if they couldnt use it and Itachi says that some old Uchiha's were able to use Izanagi that's why Izanami was created to stop them. Danzo used Hashirama cells to simply increase his physical energy and to increase the duration of Izanagi. However, due to Danzo's poor control over Hashirama cells it only allowed Him to active Izanagi for atleast 1 min per eye whilst Tobi can activate Izanagi for 5 mins. Please note that Tobi can perfectly control Hashirama cells.

My conlusion on this part is that Tobi were simply referring to the perfect version of Izanagi which is Creation of all things that the Rikudo used, thats why He said Senju and Uchiha DNA are required to activate Izanagi. Hence, Izanagi is the base of Creation of all things.

[Kyūbi no Yōko]

This ^

You asked the question and now you suddenly agree with me and RC's response? :D

that's awkward (for me at least)

[Naruto321]

You asked the question and now you suddenly agree with me and RC's response? :D

that's awkward (for me at least)


Well, the reason why I agree, is because I wanted an answer.

[Kyūbi no Yōko]

Senju DNA just helps in using Izanagi, I don't think Senju DNA is required to use it. Izanagi either lasts longer, or to the untrained man, a non-Uchiha perhaps, it's easier use.

[Naruto321]

Senju DNA just helps in using Izanagi, I don't think Senju DNA is required to use it. Izanagi either lasts longer, or to the untrained man, a non-Uchiha perhaps, it's easier use.

I am not saying he can't use it, but I am saying that he doesn't know how.

[outsidethebar]

maybe something in the Hatake DNA prevents Kakashi from using the eye to the fullest. btw, did u guys know Kakashi had a sister?

[Naruto321]

maybe something in the Hatake DNA prevents Kakashi from using the eye to the fullest. btw, did u guys know Kakashi had a sister?

No, and who might that be :lol:

[outsidethebar]

No, and who might that be :lol:


i was watchin the anime and it was this black haired chick named Hanabe i think

[Naruto321]

i was watchin the anime and it was this black haired chick named Hanabe i think




You mean Hanabi? She's from the Hyuga clan.

[outsidethebar]

You mean Hanabi? She's from the Hyuga clan.

Hanare my bad

[king kakashi]

opposite eyes one eye sends the user the other eye sends the target

[Rikudo Sage]

Hanare my bad

She's not Kakashi's sister. She's just Kakashi's childhood acquaintance who once visited to investigate Konoha.

[paradigm1977]

None of these left eye/right eye explanations that seperate "self" and "other" cover that Tobi, at range, blocked kamui from affecting the Gedo.

So it seems that unlike sum jutsu's, it's distributed between both eyes.

Which is weird.

[runescape]

so if obito would be alive he would be the strongest uchiha lol
sending all those objects and teleporting hes unstopable
using those genjutsus, who can cotrol peoples .. thats insane