Sage Mode Naruto is now Mach 11-14.5

[Narutonamikaze85]

Just saying lol. Someone on NarutoForums and OBD recalculated the FRS. It turns out Sage Mode Naruto is between Mach 11-14.5.

This makes Pein, Itachi, Raikage, Madara, and etc the same mach. To top it all off, by powerscaling RM Naruto and Bijuu Mode Naruto are faster.

[Cult of Personality]

No one cares.

[Uchiha Sora]

^I care!

Well not really. Jkbutsrsly

Calcs are meh anyways

EDIT: actually i kinda wanna see this o.o

[Narutonamikaze85]

No one cares.

If you didn't care you would'nt have viewed this thread or commented.

[Raiden]

Now Naruto can solo DBZverse yes

[megabbaut]

NF calculations were always terrible anyway.

[Nigoyukai]

The speed was just doubled from mach 5.5 to mach 11, and yes, that calc is accepted in the OBD (so now several Naruto characters are in the 2d's). Now that it has reached the BG, whether or not it's gonna be accepted here or not is up to debate.

[Narutonamikaze85]

The speed was just doubled from mach 5.5 to mach 11, and yes, that calc is accepted in the OBD (so now several Naruto characters are in the 2d's). Now that it has reached the BG, whether or not it's gonna be accepted here or not is up to debate.

Yup and that's only Sage Mode Naruto who is way way slower than Bijuu Mode Naruto.

[Bacon]

:lol:

[Ultimate combatant]

To be honest I expected calculations would show he is faster but whatever... I will continue thinking he is. But when debating I will put my opinion aside and use this calculation!!! :D

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

If you didn't care you would'nt have viewed this thread or commented.

we outlawed powerscaling here..while calcs are okay they need to be supported by feats

[Ultimate combatant]

we outlawed powerscaling here..while calcs are okay they need to be supported by feats

Isn't calculation a calculated feat?!! :D

[BMC1994]

Who cares what mach the characters are. Makes discussion unneccesairly complicated feats should be enough.

[Ultimate combatant]

Who cares what mach the characters are. Makes discussion unneccesairly complicated feats should be enough.

That would be all fine and great but the problem is when some guys appear and start talking about Luffy speedblitzing and blitzing the speed because he dodged "laser" which is supposedly supposed to be assumed that it is probably mach 15.

[Nigoyukai]

^^
you can tell those people that calc has been debunked.

And anyway, if I recall correctly, didn't two Rasen Shurikens from Naruto thrown at Pain in the final moments of their moment had a 4-second timeframe or something?

[Kuromaki]

I hate calcs. Honestly, who reads the Naruto Manga for math class?

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Isn't calculation a calculated feat?!! :D

no it's a third party analysis of a feat done to quantify it in more detail

While they make very good references and the like..if you're in a debate with someone calcing and his math sucks..and you have a feat that proves it..you don't have to calc

I'll also add that deliberately stacking your calcs..or tweaking your math either t downplay or scale up a feat counts towards dishonesty and would be a bannable offense in the BG's

[JLI2infinity]

Now Naruto can solo DBZverse yes

Lol I hope this is sarcasm but I don't see any smileys, Kid Goku and Mr. Popo in DB was faster than lightning, Goten still kills Naruto with a pebble to the face. DBZ characters are all MASSIVELY hypersonic even by low end speed calcs. (except in flight where for some reason, most likely Toriyama PIS, they are significantly slower).

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Lol I hope this is sarcasm but I don't see any smileys, Kid Goku and Mr. Popo in DB was faster than lightning, Goten still kills Naruto with a pebble to the face. DBZ characters are all MASSIVELY hypersonic even by low end speed calcs. (except in flight where for some reason, most likely Toriyama PIS, they are significantly slower).

naw that's just the fight from the characters perspective, Toriyama showed us more than a few times how a real time DB verse fight looked to a laymen.. so in battle we were getting time as it passed via the perception of the speedsters therein for the readers sake

least ways that's always how it seemed to me

its basically the same thing marvel and dc and Saint saiya do..albeit with much, much faster characters than dbz

[JLI2infinity]

naw that's just the fight from the characters perspective, Toriyama showed us more than a few times how a real time DB verse fight looked to a laymen.. so in battle we were getting time as it passed via the perception of the speedsters therein for the readers sake

least ways that's always how it seemed to me

its basically the same thing marvel and dc and Saint saiya do..albeit with much, much faster characters than dbz

Hmm I see I just don't understand how they can be massively hypersonic in battle but barely hypersonic in flight. I mean it took Gohan all the way into his teen years before he was even able to outfly Nimbus. And I know it takes them a significant portion of time to get to certain locations but I forgot about how people see them in flight.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Hmm I see I just don't understand how they can be massively hypersonic in battle but barely hypersonic in flight. I mean it took Gohan all the way into his teen years before he was even able to outfly Nimbus. And I know it takes them a significant portion of time to get to certain locations but I forgot about how people see them in flight.

It happens

Thanos insane, absolutely insane reaction time but his movement speed is probably only low lightspeed at best

Post crisis Supermans a reverse example man had say low to mid range ftl movement speed but in combat he could get maybe one or two times the speed of light in terms of reaction time

[The juubi]

Do you have the link to the supposed calculations?

[Frost ninja]

Mach 11-14 then?

If thats true, then Hinata is around that speed.
If we are going to use calcs and not feats to support the speed ideal, then I'll have to bring back up my calc that Hinata is as fast as FRS, or at least in the general area.

[The juubi]

Mach 11-14 then?

If thats true, then Hinata is around that speed.
If we are going to use calcs and not feats to support the speed ideal, then I'll have to bring back up my calc that Hinata is as fast as FRS, or at least in the general area.

Hinata is not as fast as the FRS for sure im not sure why that is being debated.

[BoxHead]

duz dis maen dat naruto cn beet goku n magneeto?!!?!

[shinigan no sora]

duz dis maen dat naruto cn beet goku n magneeto?!!?!

Not sure if serious. ~_~

IF and only IF this new calc is accurate(which I'm pretty sure its not) then goku would be iffy and even then it would be with extreme difficulty to an etent naruto would probably die afterwards from chakra depletion, dehydration and other such ailments.

As for magneto. No definitely Not. Naruto would have to have WELL above FTL feats to fight people like magneto. Not mention naruto wouldn't even be able to scratch the paint on magneto's helmet nevermind injure him considering magneto has shrugged off being hit with an actual planet and can just convert naruto's chakra into radiation or blood rip him or kill him and his entire verse without even trying in thousands of other ways. Many of which very unpleasant

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

Hmm I see I just don't understand how they can be massively hypersonic in battle but barely hypersonic in flight. I mean it took Gohan all the way into his teen years before he was even able to outfly Nimbus. And I know it takes them a significant portion of time to get to certain locations but I forgot about how people see them in flight.

Because they are different skills.

It's just like in real life.

The speed of you throwing a baseball is going to be different then how fast you can react in dodgeball. Some people can easily breeze through a mile-long run, but they won't even be able to move at a tenth of that speed during a marathon.

There are people who have insanely good reflexes/reaction timings, but they're slow as hell when it comes to movement. There are people who run marathons every two weeks, but can be incredibly clumsy and have terrible hand-eye coordination. Etc etc, and so on.

Movement speed doesn't necessarily translate to reaction speed, attacking speed, et cetera.

[Frost ninja]

Not sure if serious. ~_~

IF and only IF this new calc is accurate(which I'm pretty sure its not) then goku would be iffy and even then it would be with extreme difficulty to an etent naruto would probably die afterwards from chakra depletion, dehydration and other such ailments.



~_~ not sure if serious

You do realize he wouldn't even be fast enough to catch Dragon Ball general Tao, right? Krillin... Just regular old human krillin... is like mach 100 or something. Freiza in stage 1 was a minimum 340 mach

[BoxHead]

Not sure if serious. ~_~

IF and only IF this new calc is accurate(which I'm pretty sure its not) then goku would be iffy and even then it would be with extreme difficulty to an etent naruto would probably die afterwards from chakra depletion, dehydration and other such ailments.

As for magneto. No definitely Not. Naruto would have to have WELL above FTL feats to fight people like magneto. Not mention naruto wouldn't even be able to scratch the paint on magneto's helmet nevermind injure him considering magneto has shrugged off being hit with an actual planet and can just convert naruto's chakra into radiation or blood rip him or kill him and his entire verse without even trying in thousands of other ways. Many of which very unpleasantHave you ever read any of my other posts :lol:? I'm never all that serious.

I was making a joke as to how the OP just HAD to state this claim, even though it's highly debatable and probably false.

[The juubi]

Have you ever read any of my other posts :lol:? I'm never all that serious.

I was making a joke as to how the OP just HAD to state this claim, even though it's highly debatable and probably false.

Im pretty sure it is real and a highly likely calc as so many other forums use it. It is also a easily calcuable mach as we have proof the rasenshuriken crossed a mountain range and with many shots of the range you can calsulate how big it was how long it took to cross it and then do the mach ;);););). Im sure it is legit.

[321zigzag3]

NEVER USE SPEED CALCULATION IN A single verse fight.

It messes people up because not everyone thinks on same terms.

Leave the calculations to the multiverse fights only. It makes more sense there because we have nothing else to compare minus shown panel feats.
Even then calculation shouldn't be used often because they make people biased. So you got to be cautious.

[Devils Lawyer]

Wrong he is faster.

[JLI2infinity]

Wrong he is faster.

No he's not, he's significantly slower, considering not even the FRS traveled at that speed.

[Devils Lawyer]

The frs is not the calc that puts him above this. There is several current and past feats that dwarf this. On that point I have been said Deidara put them well above this a long time ago. Everybody thought I wad trolling.:lol:

[JLI2infinity]

The frs is not the calc that puts him above this. There is several current and past feats that dwarf this. On that point I have been said Deidara put them well above this a long time ago. Everybody thought I wad trolling.:lol:

Please explain because nowhere else in the series has he showcased his abilities in Sage Mode more openly.

[tanduhman]

I honestly dont see how someone could even make these calculations correctly? The manga does not represent time frames second by second. For all we know the next picture could be forty seconds later. I will never accept this.

[Devils Lawyer]

Meh everything we do is fanfic even our opinions on these debates. I dont take this seriously at all. Nothing is 100% You either use them or don't. As far as where such calcs came from. Think about the fact Madara one stroked several kilometeres instantly. That should easily be faster than mach 14 on the low end. Half the crap they do is unquantifiable. As a matter of fact they should have been massively faster than this long ago. Take it or leave it. Nevermind they are dodging blasts akin to mini nukes right now.