Itachi & Kisame vs Jiraiya,Guy,PTS Naruto and Sasuke

[Marfi]

Kisame have Samehada.

Itachi is in his PTS physical condition

Guy can open upto 7 gate.

Both Naruto and Sasuke is in their PTS form.

Distance: 50 meter.

Location: where Tsunade and Kabuto fought.

No prep time.

The goal of Itachi and Kisame is to capture Naruto alive.But suddenly after getting interrupted by Jiraiya and others they decided to kill everyone but Naruto.

[Shikamaru Nara]

I think I'll try my hand at this one.

Tough one.

I'd like to think that Gai is actually immune to Genjutsu in the seventh gate, but I don't want to base my argument off of just that. Not to mention he's insanely fast and his destructive force is incredible for a human.

I'm guessing that Sasuke is PTS too?

If that's the case, Itachi's already IC to kill according to the defaults, so Sasuke is easily taken care of. Even at the state that he was in when he was fighting Itachi for the last time, there was clearly no wide margin in skill that suggests that Sasuke would've even been able to severely injure Itachi. Not to mention that he was sick.

So believe it or not, I'm giving it to the left team.

Despite Gai being a major issue, if they're going for a capture, all they have to do is kill Jiraiya (easy, Tsukiyomi, GG) and Sasuke (also easy. He's weak). Once they do that, all they have to do is have one person occupy Gai and one take Naruto away, because I don't think he'll be doing very much damage. And if they do, he's easy to knock out.

[PrinceofPeace]

I say Konoha

Guy can take Kisame and Jiryria will take Itachi. I believe Itachi can not use Susanoo correct?

Naruto and Saskue are useless. The only thing that saskue could do is threaten to kill Naruto so Itachi will not have him

Toad bosses should be able to take care or Itachi. Guy knows not to look into Itachi's eys. Or Guy could use the gates on Itachi.

[JLI2infinity]

Naruto and Sasuke are useless this is basically Jiraiya and Gai vs. Itachi and Kisame, and although I think Gai would defeat Kisame and be trouble for Itachi (he'd probably crack that supposedly unbreakable Yata Mirror >.> ) I don't see Jiraiya being able to enter Sage Mode undisturbed here unless he sacrifices Gama to Amaterasu which is completely out of character. However, if Jiraiya were to be bloodlusted and fight with no restraint against PTS Itachi with that low stamina they might have a chance since he has to waste chakra on Tsukuyomi for Sasuke, Amaterasu for the Toad Stomach and Boss Toads, and Susano'o to tank Gai's attack.

[MinatoXNaruto]

I say Konoha

Guy can take Kisame and Jiryria will take Itachi. I believe Itachi can not use Susanoo correct?

Naruto and Saskue are useless. The only thing that saskue could do is threaten to kill Naruto so Itachi will not have him

Toad bosses should be able to take care or Itachi. Guy knows not to look into Itachi's eys. Or Guy could use the gates on Itachi.
What makes you think Itachi can't use Susanoo

[PrinceofPeace]

Itachi is in his PTS physical condition

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can Itachi use Susanoo??

[Kill3r_B-st]

guy takes out kisame, jiraiya SOTU itachi immediently, naruto an sasuke watch and take notes..........

really though without SM jiraiya's only dangers in this fight are SOTU and boss summons. Guy+AT=Kisame

if need be naruto and sasuke apply fodder assistance with shuriken support:lol:

[PrinceofPeace]

Amaterasu automatically kills Jiryria or guy (most likely Jiryria)

Now it is 2v1

Kisame forces Guy to go 7th gate... guy is tired than Itachi uses amaterasu again

[Kill3r_B-st]

activation of ammy is no faster than jiraiya slamming his hands down. If you argue further I'll bring up guy and Jman using Naruto and sasuke as human shields`:P

[PrinceofPeace]

Itachi can use Amaterasu at best 3 times.

if amaterasu misses it can still burn down Gama

PTS characters will not react fast enough to be used as shields

Kisame can save Itachi from SOTU with Samehada

If this was bloodlusted mayb konoha would win. I do not see Guy using gates fast enough

[Marfi]

can Itachi use Susanoo??

Yes ,why not? Itachi has everything up to latest manga and only his health is PTS form(because he was in much weaker health in his fight with Sasuke).

[Ultimate combatant]

I say Guy defeats Kisame.

Jiraiya defeats Itachi.

If Jiraiya doesn't defeat Itachi before Guy defeats Kisame, both Jiraiya and Guy team up to beat Itachi who should be worn down.

So, Jiraiya and Guy win. In case, they all die, Naruto and Sasuke still remain!!! :D

[PrinceofPeace]

how does Jiryria beat Itachi
how does guy beat Kisame- Guy will not use gates right away

[Kill3r_B-st]

Itachi can use Amaterasu at best 3 times.

if amaterasu misses it can still burn down Gama

PTS characters will not react fast enough to be used as shields

Kisame can save Itachi from SOTU with Samehada

If this was bloodlusted mayb konoha would win. I do not see Guy using gates fast enough
how does samehada save either of them from being sucked up. its not raw chakra its a physical form of a swamp

Also why would guy not use gates immediately? After witnessing Kisame Guy was quick to transform to the 6th gate to pursue Kisame

[PrinceofPeace]

It takes time for Guy to go into powerful gated forms. With this time Itachi can
1- catch someone in genjutsu
2- use amaterasu to kill someone

If Jiryria summons Kisame traps him in a water dome. Then Jiryria drowns with Gama

Itachi can use amaterasu before Guy gets into gate that is very threatful. Amaterasu burns Gama or Jiryria

Saskue/Naruto tries to get in the way and Guy/Jiryria have to watch out for them

Itachi can catch Naruto in genjutsu and tell him to be a human shield or run to the akasuki

[Marfi]

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Also why would guy not use gates immediately? After witnessing Kisame Guy was quick to transform to the 6th gate to pursue Kisame[/COLOR]

Because this is before The Kazekage rescue arc.So,Guy doesn't know the power of 30% Kisame. So he won't go to the 6th gate straight.

And Jiraiya will be caught in Itachi's genjutsu like Shikamaru Nara said.While Kisame passes his time by toying with Guy.And if Guy starting to open gates then Itachi will butt in.

[Kill3r_B-st]

jiraiya SOTU or food cart destroyers itachi. These moves are quick and instant and most of the time 1 hit KO's

jiraiya and guy together proceed to beat kisame down

[PrinceofPeace]

Itachi's genjutsu is instant and deadly as well.

Kisame can go underground to dodge toads

I think you have to be above the target to use food cart

[Kill3r_B-st]

food cart destroyer is simply summoning a fat toad mid air. so as jiraiya stares at the ground to use SOTU instantly he is at the same time looking at itachi casting a genjutsu? and sense when does kisame go underground? never? alright then.......

once itachi is gone jiraiya and guy tag team kisame FTW

[PrinceofPeace]

FIRST OF ALL!!! Kisame went underground when he fount TEAM GUY.... SO IN YOU FACE!!! He is a water AND EARTH USER

genjutsu takes less than a sec. Jiryria does not know of his ablities as well as Guy. Plus Jiryria suks at genjutsu. How would Jiryria not get caught in genjutsu?

Itachi can see chakra before it happens so he would be able to use Susanoo or get out of the way before the toad smashes

[Kill3r_B-st]

I'll accept you 1st thing

I'll just counter the other two things with SOTU

I would however like to note that jiraiya doesn't HAVE to fight itachi first he could fight kisame while guy fights itachi. If itachi uses susano'o SOTU bring him down. Guy won't get caught in genjutsu. Either way Jman guy team are taking this

[PrinceofPeace]

Just how you focus on taking out Kisame first I focus on Jiryria
1- Jiryria can not escape Amaterasu nor genjutsu nor susanoo
2- Water dome renders SOTU useless or he could just abosorb it with samehada since it is chakra

Guy needs to go into Gates right away and I do not see him doing that. Even if he does that would take time for Itachi to use clone explosion or Susanoo or Amaterasu on Guy

Guy can put multiple people under genjutsu so he could send Naruto and Saskue to fight Guy and Jiryria.

Itachi vs Guy
1- How does guy beat Amaterasu?
2- How does guy get past Susanoo?

Itachi vs Jiryia
1- How does Jiryia beat genjutsu
2- How does jiryira defeat Amaterasy
3- How does Jiryria get past Susanoo

GUy vs Kisame
1- Guy needs time to go into gates.
2- Guy gets trapped in water dome
3- Kisame sends thousands of sharks all at once to Guy( who is trying to go in gates)

Kisame vs Jiryria
1- water dome stops Toads and Jiryria
2- GIANT WATER BULLET abosrbs any ninjutsu of Jiryria
3- How does Jiryria beat thousands of sharks
4- SM takes time

[Kill3r_B-st]

Just how you focus on taking out Kisame first I focus on Jiryria
1- Jiryria can not escape Amaterasu nor genjutsu nor susanoo
2- Water dome renders SOTU useless or he could just abosorb it with samehada since it is chakra

Guy needs to go into Gates right away and I do not see him doing that. Even if he does that would take time for Itachi to use clone explosion or Susanoo or Amaterasu on Guy

Guy can put multiple people under genjutsu so he could send Naruto and Saskue to fight Guy and Jiryria.

Itachi vs Guy
1- How does guy beat Amaterasu?
2- How does guy get past Susanoo?

Itachi vs Jiryia
1- How does Jiryia beat genjutsu
2- How does jiryira defeat Amaterasy
3- How does Jiryria get past Susanoo

GUy vs Kisame
1- Guy needs time to go into gates.
2- Guy gets trapped in water dome
3- Kisame sends thousands of sharks all at once to Guy( who is trying to go in gates)

Kisame vs Jiryria
1- water dome stops Toads and Jiryria
2- GIANT WATER BULLET abosrbs any ninjutsu of Jiryria
3- How does Jiryria beat thousands of sharks
4- SM takes time
I'll make this quick....gates is instant as seen when guy went straight to the 6th gate vs kisame. He dodges ammy unless your saying he's slower than CM sasuke? Attacks susano'o from behind because the shield does not protect everywhere. AT GG

just as fast as you say all that jiraiya can use SOTU by SMACKING THE GROUND

guys gates pushes away the water as it always has been shown to do. AT kisame has no counter

um toads can swim as seen when one went underwater to give tsunade his last message. He may hide in gambunta mouth until sage mode. Not really necessary but anyways toad mouth bind would trap kisame followed by turning kisame the shark into kisame the frog:lol:

[PrinceofPeace]

Guy can use gates quickly but he still had to squat in a still position. Amaterasu BEFOR Guy uses gates. Simple as that. At least Itachi could koto Jiryria. Plus Itachi can use genjutsu on Saskue and Naruto. They would be able to distract Guy by attacking him and Guy would not want to hurt them

With Itachi's Sharigan he can see that the swamp is coming. Knowing that Itachi tells Kisame to use water dome to float/rise them up.

There is NO WAY Guy can go 6th Gates before Itachi uses genjutus. If Guy goes up that high then the match is most likely over

Toads can swim but they can not breath underwater OR use their fire attacks. Or Kisame can abosrb the ninjutsu

Jiryria can not hide in the mouth when the whole Toad is in flames by Amaterasu or

1,000 sharks are attacks or Itachi can koto the toads. OR Saskue and Naruto can distract Jiryria

Toad mouth bind only workds in enclosed places

Akastsuki Main Threats
1- koto
2- amaterasu
3-susanoo
4- Genjutsu on Naruto, saskue, and Itachi
5- 1,000 sharks attacing the foe
6- abosrboing chakra

The Leaf's Main attacks
1- Summonings
2-gates
3- Genjutsu does not affect genjutsu

[Kill3r_B-st]

quick statement itachi can't ammy guy and koto jiraiya at the same time so pick. Koto jiraiya and get punched in the face by a 6th gate fist or ammy guy and get sunk by a swamp.......you pick

[PrinceofPeace]

I am not saying he can do both at the same time I am just saying he can do either one

Itachi would use amaterasu on Guy to take him out

When the swamp comes Itachi will have enough time to use amaterasu or koto on Jiryria

Kisame can send 1,000 sharks at Jiryria and Naruto and Saskue

Guy is the strongest so it is best to take him out first

[Kill3r_B-st]

I am not saying he can do both at the same time I am just saying he can do either one

Itachi would use amaterasu on Guy to take him out

When the swamp comes Itachi will have enough time to use amaterasu or koto on Jiryria



you contradicted yourself. As itachi is using ammy on guy and jiraiya is using swamp on itachi, itachi is koto/ammy-ing jiraiya as well? I don't think so you didn't pick one, you took the both ways out route. Either way itachi is going down according to your tactic

[PrinceofPeace]

Itachi kills Guy with Amaterasu

Kisame fires 1,000 sharks at Jiryria.

Jiryria would most likley have to block with Gama and could not use the swamp. ( He usually does not use the swamp against smaller enemies)

Once Gama is summoned
1-water dome on Gama
2-Thousands of sharks on Gama
3-Amaterasu on Gama/Jiryria
4- Genjutus on Jiryria/Gama
5-Genjutsu on genin to distract Jiryria

[Kill3r_B-st]

Itachi kills Guy with Amaterasu

Kisame fires 1,000 sharks at Jiryria.

Jiryria would most likley have to block with Gama and could not use the swamp. ( He usually does not use the swamp against smaller enemies)

Once Gama is summoned
1-water dome on Gama
2-Thousands of sharks on Gama
3-Amaterasu on Gama/Jiryria
4- Genjutus on Jiryria/Gama
5-Genjutsu on genin to distract Jiryria

jiraiya may summon gama or the other toad with a shield. I'm pretty sure out of the 2 times jiraiya used SOTU the second time was capturing ONE pain body. A very small swamp formed on the ceiling. Swamp is usable and everything after that is irrelevant seeing as how the swamp is definitely big enough for two............ As guy is taken out and itachi is using ammy and kisame is summoning 1000 sharks that are being blocked, jiraiya is swallowing them both in a swamp

[PrinceofPeace]

1- Its not in Gama's character to be used as a shield but I can see how it will happen
2- The 2nd time he used SOTU he was in SM so that does not count

The swamp is not an instant kill.

1- Itachi can still use amaterasu on Jiryria or use susanoo and pierce Jiryria with his sword
2- Kisame can abosrb the chakra in the swamp with Samehada
3- Kisame attacks with 1,000 sharks before they go into the swamp

How is the sharks being blocked??? If Jiryria summons Gama then the swamp would not be the first thing that happens!!

If he summons Gama first Guy would stil be dead and Kisame would run then jump onto the frog as well as Itachi

[Kill3r_B-st]

1- Its not in Gama's character to be used as a shield but I can see how it will happen
2- The 2nd time he used SOTU he was in SM so that does not count

The swamp is not an instant kill.

1- Itachi can still use amaterasu on Jiryria or use susanoo and pierce Jiryria with his sword
2- Kisame can abosrb the chakra in the swamp with Samehada
3- Kisame attacks with 1,000 sharks before they go into the swamp

How is the sharks being blocked??? If Jiryria summons Gama then the swamp would not be the first thing that happens!!

If he summons Gama first Guy would stil be dead and Kisame would run then jump onto the frog as well as Itachi

you were the one that suggested the gama so now your just pulling back your argument. Also if he made a bigger one while normal and drugged WHY IN THE WORLD would you assume he needs SM to make a smaller one? Also samehada is sinking down with kisame, unless your saying itachi and kisame are as tall as half a giant 2 headed snake that was sunken in half way........

[PrinceofPeace]

I am not pulling it back but Gama would take time and it could not take and protect Jiryria for long

Kisame and Itachi can go onto Gama or Samehada would absorb it

Does Jiryria summon Gama or does he make the swamp first?

[Kill3r_B-st]

summon gama for protection from kisame who you say is launching 1000 sharks, while guy is so called being ammy-ed where itachi will most likely grab his eye in pain leaving time for SOTU. Also if we are using character itachi using ammy at the start is OOC........

[PrinceofPeace]

alright so Jiryria summons Gama before he uses SOTU

When Gama is summoned Kisame and Itachi would jump onto Gama.

1- How does Samehada not work against the swamp?
2- Jiryria summoning Gama and Guy using the gates right off the bat is OOC

[Kill3r_B-st]

alright so Jiryria summons Gama before he uses SOTU

When Gama is summoned Kisame and Itachi would jump onto Gama.

1- How does Samehada not work against the swamp?
2- Jiryria summoning Gama and Guy using the gates right off the bat is OOC

because samehada does not absorb Justus it absorbs raw chakra which the swamp is not........it is a swamp.

also I'm sure jiraiya summoning to start fight are normal as in ALL of h is shown fight except with konan he started by summoning some kind of large frog. Even against orochimaru he wanted to summon gama but couldn't due to Tsunade drug. Against kisame the 3rd time guy immediately went gates. Showing up to save naruto from tobi he also was in gates for his 1st attack. These are not OOC actions

[PrinceofPeace]

Jiryria only summoned when he had to fight BIgger enemies... he only summoned human-sized toads to fight the two last time

1- Jiryria summons Gama which makes it easy for Itachi and Kisame to go on
2- Jiryira uses SOTU and 1,000 sharks attack him

We already said Guy was done for. Itachi would use Amaterasu or Pierced guy with Susanoo Before Guy could go into a gate mode that would actually do any real damage

Kisame can use Giant Shark Missle to absorb the swamp

OR

Itachi uses genjutsu on Jiryria, and Naruto, and Saskue. Those 3 would then attack Guy... not to mention the 1,000 sharks chasing after Guy