Hashirama Senju vs Naruto

[PrinceofPeace]

location: hashirama is inside the forest of death and Naruto 20feet away from the forest

hashirama has full prep and knowledge

naruto knows the hype of Hashirama but not the details like his jutsu or prep

Both are wearing the 1st hokage's necklace

Both are in character ( Naruto wants to prove he can be a great hokage if he beats him)

( Hashirama wants to take back his village and He thinks the Nine-Tails is still evil and is going to betray Naruto and the village soon)

ALL FEATS

Who wins

I say the 1st wins cuz he used to the bijuu and wood style is crazy.

Naruto has to stay away from the forest of death. He could spam TBB but Hashirama's defences are crazy

THOUGHTS??

[MinatoXNaruto]

Hashirama. You won't beat him in a forest unless you're the sage of the six paths

[TobiramaSenju307]

yes you will.
naruto can hold hashi at bay with mass clone spam and ambushes like he used against neji and pain. all directions shuriken will force hashi back onto the defensive. pollen is useless because of naruto's SM clone on kyuubi's nose.
naruto will bat away the trees like he did bijuudama. FRS will cut them up. fukasaku and shima have powerful genjutsu as well as katon + fuuton combo. hashirama having full knowledge doesnt mean he can defend against the genjutsu in time.

[Godaime Kazekage]

I say the 1st wins cuz he used to the bijuu and wood style is crazy.

Naruto has to stay away from the forest of death. He could spam TBB but Hashirama's defences are crazy

THOUGHTS??

What defences are you referring to? Wood style and healing? I don't see how they could stand up to a TBB...

Naruto stomps in this battle. Wood style isn't fast enough to catch Naruto in Bijuu Mode, even if it did, Sage Mode clones could bail him out. Genjutsu is ineffective with Kurama's help. Pollen can't get through the chakra cloak.

Naruto fries the First with a TBB, ;););););) slaps him with chakra arms, has Ma and Pa put him under Genjutsu, hits him with FRS or Senpo: Cho Odama Rasen Tarengan, the list goes on...

[megabbaut]

Hashirama. You won't beat him in a forest unless you're the sage of the six paths
Naruto blew up a forest while he was KN4. In Bijuu mode he should be able to do it again even easier.

[PrinceofPeace]

Hashirama protected himself from Nine-Tails TBB so whats your point????

[megabbaut]

Can he protect himself from multiple FRS?

[HashiramaSenju]

Hashirama has the ability to control multiple tailed beasts at a time what stops him from controlling Naruto's

[megabbaut]

Shadow clones, he must find the real one to control it and he can't when he's getting barraged by Rasengans.

[HashiramaSenju]

Hashirama would control Naruto's Tailed Beast and defeat him with his wood release.
It would be like beefed up version of Yamato fighting regular Naruto(no assistance from the tailed beast).

[HashiramaSenju]

Naruto isn't as strong as Madara Uchiha(the real one)and Hashirama beat Madara

[HashiramaSenju]

Hashirama was able to use wood release to take a hit from an energy ball straight from the ninetails. He could block a Rasengan the same way

[PrinceofPeace]

exactly plus he blocked a TBB

[TobiramaSenju307]

Hashirama protected himself from Nine-Tails TBB
when did that happen? oh right nowhere.


Hashirama would control Naruto's Tailed Beast
he cant control a perfect jin who spams clones to protect himself

[PrinceofPeace]

Naruto generations


hashriama controlled all of the bijju and shared them with the other villages

[JLI2infinity]

My only question with this battle is if Hashirama can supress Kurama's chakra or not. If he can do that then this fight is pointless.

[Black Azurite]

all feats right? deep forest emergence, n he blows up the tree

[Madara uchiha+kurama]

location: hashirama is inside the forest of death and Naruto 20feet away from the forest

hashirama has full prep and knowledge

naruto knows the hype of Hashirama but not the details like his jutsu or prep

Both are wearing the 1st hokage's necklace

Both are in character ( Naruto wants to prove he can be a great hokage if he beats him)

( Hashirama wants to take back his village and He thinks the Nine-Tails is still evil and is going to betray Naruto and the village soon)

ALL FEATS

Who wins

I say the 1st wins cuz he used to the bijuu and wood style is crazy.

Naruto has to stay away from the forest of death. He could spam TBB but Hashirama's defences are crazy

THOUGHTS??

according to me naruto will win.because in beast mode he is able to sense any sort of movement happend in environment.so black night jutsu wont work on naruto.wood style jutsu is stopped by beast bomb or wind rasenshurikane attack and rasengan.he has lots of chakra so there is no chance of exhosting.

[PrinceofPeace]

lol beast mode??? Black night justsu??? Are yous serious (I think I know what you mean but please use the actual names) Its called Nine Tails Chakra mode or Kurama mode and the other one is Bringer of darkness

Hashirama is in a forest HOMEFIELD ADVANTAGE and wood styel>>TBB
hashirama uses the fumes of his jutsu to knock out Naruto

[Haku Uchiha]

When you said all feats that just helped Naruto even more his feats in Blood Prison he could take down Hashirma with just SM and if he needs more power than he still has KM and IIRC when Madara used the 1st Justu that created a Tsunami of roots it was stopped by Naruto

[PrinceofPeace]

How does Naruto beat Wood Release: Advent of a World of Flowering Trees
or
Hokage-Style Sixty-Year-Old Technique — Enclosed Hermitage Entering Society with Bliss-Bringing Hands


Plus Kurama mode would give Hasiirama's wood style MORE POWER

DO NOT FOREGET: They are both wearing the First Hokage's Necklace

[Godaime Kazekage]

@HashiramaSenju: Similar to the case with Madara, Hashirama can't control a tailed beast within a Jinchuuriki. Also, as far as chakra suppression goes, Hashirama's wood style would first have to catch and restrain Bijuu Mode Naruto (again, not fast or strong enough, and if it did-Naruto could have clones or toads bail him out).

Where exactly are you basing your statement that Naruto isn't as strong as regular Madara?? Madara would've been toast within one chapter if he hadn't activated his Rinnegan.

Finally, Hashirama hasn't stopped an "energy ball" from a tailed beast. Don't make statements without facts.

@PrinceofPeace: Once again you make a statement with no evidence to back it up-Hashirama has never been shown to defend against a TBB.

Wood style<<<<Mountains<<<<TBB

As already stated, pollen can't get through chakra cloak-assuming there are even flowers to make pollen after being blown up by a TBB or Rasenshuriken.

6 tailed Naruto broke the necklace like a twig.

Assuming Hashirama's trees can stop a TBB (which they can't)-how does he survive these possible strategies of Naruto: A barrage of 15+ Rasenshurikens at the same time, thrown from clones that can move faster than lightning armor Raikage, attacks from multiple Boss Frogs along with Ma and Pa's genjutsu, or thousands of clones with giant rasengans?

Naruto can counter everything Hashirama has, but Hashirama can't keep up with current Naruto who has clones that are Kage level, is the fastest ninja alive, and is immune to Genjutsu.

[Stoffy Uzumaki :)]

location: hashirama is inside the forest of death and Naruto 20feet away from the forest hashirama has full prep and knowledge naruto knows the hype of Hashirama but not the details like his jutsu or prep Both are wearing the 1st hokage's necklace Both are in character ( Naruto wants to prove he can be a great hokage if he beats him) ( Hashirama wants to take back his village and He thinks the Nine-Tails is still evil and is going to betray Naruto and the village soon) ALL FEATS Who wins I say the 1st wins cuz he used to the bijuu and wood style is crazy. Naruto has to stay away from the forest of death. He could spam TBB but Hashirama's defences are crazy THOUGHTS?? Naruto will win for sure

[PrinceofPeace]

care to explain

[TheIndigoFang]

Hashirama has the CELLS!!! Like Yamoto he can stop the nine tails.

[PrinceofPeace]

Agreed he is the master at controlling bijju and has AMwesome wood style jutsu's


THE CELLS THE CELLS FEAR THE CELLS

[Kakashi Hatake_Yamato]

not much is known about Hashirama, but knowing that he beat Madara, then the Shodaime is like a God. He is able to control the tailed beasts and could control the kyuubi and/or naruto.
Yamato did admint that his Mokuton wasn't as strong as Hashirama's. But I could imagine how much stronger his is.

Hashirama does somewhat have the advantage with the forest surrounding him. but then again, naruto could blow it away. when he does, Hashirama could use that chance to escape and attack naruto.
probably could grow a tree around naruto and squash him.

[PrinceofPeace]

@HashiramaSenju: Similar to the case with Madara, Hashirama can't control a tailed beast within a Jinchuuriki. Also, as far as chakra suppression goes, Hashirama's wood style would first have to catch and restrain Bijuu Mode Naruto (again, not fast or strong enough, and if it did-Naruto could have clones or toads bail him out).


Finally, Hashirama hasn't stopped an "energy ball" from a tailed beast. Don't make statements without facts.

@PrinceofPeace: Once again you make a statement with no evidence to back it up-Hashirama has never been shown to defend against a TBB.

Wood style<<<<Mountains<<<<TBB

As already stated, pollen can't get through chakra cloak-assuming there are even flowers to make pollen after being blown up by a TBB or Rasenshuriken.

6 tailed Naruto broke the necklace like a twig.

Assuming Hashirama's trees can stop a TBB (which they can't)-how does he survive these possible strategies of Naruto: A barrage of 15+ Rasenshurikens at the same time, thrown from clones that can move faster than lightning armor Raikage, attacks from multiple Boss Frogs along with Ma and Pa's genjutsu, or thousands of clones with giant rasengans?

Naruto can counter everything Hashirama has, but Hashirama can't keep up with current Naruto who has clones that are Kage level, is the fastest ninja alive, and is immune to Genjutsu.

Hashirama did stop a TBB in Generations so it has been shown IN YOUR FACE!!!!! do not come at my neck bro

IT is a huge forest that is creating pollen and you breath the chakra in so how does a chakra cloak help that???? TBB would destroy the forest but as I said Hashirama can block a TBB and he can eaisly rebuild a forest in a place that is already a froest.

Yes 6-tails did destroy the necklace BUT you and I both KNOW that Yamato was not their to stop him and Hashirama puts Yamato to shame and can have a better time holding the nine tails back since they BOTH are wearing the necklace.

Pollen takes care of frogs and clones
and long ranged wood style traps frogs and clones
for Ma n Pa's genjutsu( WHICH MA IS RELUCTANT TO USE) they neeed to get dangerously close in ear shot to use

plus Wood clones>shadow clones

there is significant distance between them and Hashirama has the home field advantage.

Naruto's cloak will not save him from the pollen

[TobiramaSenju307]

How does Naruto beat Wood Release: Advent of a World of Flowering Trees
or
Hokage-Style Sixty-Year-Old Technique — Enclosed Hermitage Entering Society with Bliss-Bringing Hands
naruto SM clones would see the pollen coming. moreover kurama can snap him out of it. narutos willpower is above onokis. as for bijuu supression, HE CAN USE BM WITHOUT BECOMING HUGE FULL KURAMA.


Plus Kurama mode would give Hasiirama's wood style MORE POWER

it makes it go haywire but doesnt make it stronger. or theyd have stated this

Hashirama protected himself from Nine-Tails TBB
when?

Hashirama has the ability to control multiple tailed beasts at a time what stops him from controlling Naruto's
well its much harder to control a jin and naruto can destroy his wood before it gets to him

Hashirama would control Naruto's Tailed Beast and defeat him with his wood release
first he has to survive bijuudama point blank, 13 fuuto rasenshurikens, hundreds of clones doing oodama rasengan and narutos own insane speed, sm clones and frog summons.

Naruto isn't as strong as Madara Uchiha(the real one)and Hashirama beat Madara
you think naruto cant take VOTE ems madara? from what we've seen he certainly can beat PS with 13 FRS. we know nothing about hashi vs madara besides hashi won and mito helped.

Naruto generations
so we are using anime feats?

Naruto's cloak will not save him from the pollen
if pollens so overpowered that it affects naruto when hes moving as fast as hes capable of moving, then how in the world did madara counter it?


Hashirama did stop a TBB in Generations so it has been shown IN YOUR FACE!!!!! do not come at my neck bro
i thought there was an obsession in this forum of ignoring filler feats. and the filler Kn6 is really OP if you remember episode 167

TBB would destroy the forest but as I said Hashirama can block a TBB
can he block 13 clones all throwing FRS?

Pollen takes care of frogs and clones
dust cloud blows back pollen after sm clones sense it coming. or kurama warns them since he would have fought hashi before/heard everything said by mito when he was in her belly.

Wood clones>shadow clones
considering the calibre of kcm clones, they dont need to be durable. chakra arms + planet rasengan > anything a wood clone shows. and its not confirmed hashi can make as many wood clones as madara

[Godaime Kazekage]

Hashirama did stop a TBB in Generations so it has been shown IN YOUR FACE!!!!! do not come at my neck bro
At the time this thread was created I thought that bt ALL FEATS you meant all manga feats, as is standard. Even so, the Generations TBB never exploded, so no, Hashirama cannot defend against a TBB.
IT is a huge forest that is creating pollen and you breath the chakra in so how does a chakra cloak help that???? TBB would destroy the forest but as I said Hashirama can block a TBB and he can eaisly rebuild a forest in a place that is already a froest.
To be completely clear, by chakra cloak I mean the Kurama (fox form) chakra around Naruto, not his new robe. The chakra in the form of Kurama serves as a barrier. The tailed beasts weren't able to directly hit Naruto, they were fighting with Kurama (chakra cloak). The pollen can't get through the cloak-it is a physical barrier.

Yes 6-tails did destroy the necklace BUT you and I both KNOW that Yamato was not their to stop him and Hashirama puts Yamato to shame and can have a better time holding the nine tails back since they BOTH are wearing the necklace. There's no proof that the necklace's binding would be any stronger with Hashirama nearby, and KN6 Naruto-not perfect link Naruto- broke it within a second.

Pollen takes care of frogs and clones Not if the forest has been blown up by TBB or Rasenshurikens.
and long ranged wood style traps frogs and clones Wood style is slow son. Naruto was able to spam thousands of regular clones and counter it after watching it come at him for a while. Naruto can make 13+ KCM clones which are as fast as 3RK.
for Ma n Pa's genjutsu( WHICH MA IS RELUCTANT TO USE) they neeed to get dangerously close in ear shot to use They can hide out in the chakra cloak, like Kakashi and Guy.

plus Wood clones>shadow clones. KCM Clones>>>>>>> Wood Clones.

there is significant distance between them and Hashirama has the home field advantage. Bijuu Mode Naruto can close the gap in an instant.

Naruto's cloak will not save him from the pollen. Yes it will
It seems that your only argument for Hashirama revolves around the pollen, let's see why that argument fails.
1. Pollen can't get through chakra cloak.
2. Kurama has knowledge on Hashirama, we don't know that Hashirama used that move in his fight against Madara for certain, but why would he not try and use his best move?
3. Assuming Kurama doesn't have intel-Naruto notices one/a few of his clones falls prey to the pollen. Now he knows to watch out for it/destroy the flowers.
4. As Tobirama307 said, Naruto has really strong will power and Kurama to help him stay awake, he can resist the pollen long enough to take out the nearby flowers if by some miracle he himself is affected by the pollen.
5. Boss frogs stand above the flowers/pollen and have lots of oil. Ma and Pa have fire and wind element...goodbye forest, assuming it hasn't been destroyed by TBBs or Rasenshurikens.

In bold. Naruto owns so bad in this fight it's not even funny.

[Fan of Minato]

Uh...seriously? By hype, sure Hashirama wins. By feats? Naruto's the one with the most jutsu in the series, I believe. Hashirama has two or three good ones. Yeah, Naruto wins.
Boss Summons, Sennin mode, Kyuubi Mode+RS Cloak, Shadow Clone jutsu, FRS, and a lot more.

Hashirama's forest is blown to bits along with the flowers. We don't know if Hashirama can tank a TBB, generations doesn't count. Also, Naruto's fast. By feats, Naruto wins.

[BMC1994]

Hype wise Hashirama Stomps:
Hype wise madaras wood style = Hashis woodstyles and madara covered the battlefield in a huge forest in mere seconds. Hype wise he is stated to be one of the few persons who can truly controlls a bijuu with his wood. Thus his wood is stronger then a bijuu naruto cant escape if he gets caught. Hype wise he could capture naruto in wood just by covering the entire battlefield and capture him. And supress the kyuubi meaning no TBB, no KCM , no Bijuu Mode. And he basicly cant do anything else while he is capped in that wood so he looses.

Since When does the chakra cloak block pollen?

Feat Wise;
1. Naruto Outspeeds hashirama he can get blitzed.
2. Naruto goes sage mode makes a dozen of clones and barrages him with expanding rasenshurikens, or Giant rasengans , or even normal ones.
3. Naruto goes bijuu mode and TBBs him before he can do anything.
4. Naruto: Taijuu kage bunshin+ oodama rasengan GG Hashi.
etc.
We need to see more feats of hashis speed and durability that are not hype.


Probably when until we get to see more feats of hashi naruto takes this easily.

[PrinceofPeace]

How does Naruto beat Advent of following trees?

[BMC1994]

How does Naruto beat Advent of following trees?

He TBBs the featless hashis lame advent of trees and him along with it.

I agree hype wise he should stomp easily.

And really advent of trees *isnt the ultimate unescapable jutsu otherwiese the kages would be dead now.

[PrinceofPeace]

Tbb would take time and the effect of the pollen is practically instant

[Godaime Kazekage]

Hype wise Hashirama Stomps:
Since When does the chakra cloak block pollen?


I think I explained it in my last post-The chakra in the form of Kurama around Naruto when he is in Bijuu Mode (perfect link, not RS mode) is a physical barrier-it's able to grab stuff and fight with the Bijuu, the Bijuu couldn't just pass through it and attack Naruto directly-thus, the pollen which is made up of physical particles won't be able to get through the chakra cloak which completely surrounds Naruto when he is in that form (he's inside the head of the cloak).

[PrinceofPeace]

BUt Naruto has to breath and he would breath n the pollen

[Godaime Kazekage]

BUt Naruto has to breath and he would breath n the pollen

There is tons of space in the cloak-he can breathe easily. Think of it this way-it's raining outside, but you are in your house. You can breathe inside your house, but you won't get rained on.

[Zack Fair]

Madara curb-stomped the kages and stated something about how Hashirama was the only one who could best him.

^ That's a fact, came from the manga. I'm not assuming stuff like with the cloak blocking pollen, who knows how the manga writer would PnJ this fight.

So, based on the stomping Madara did, I am going to say Hashirama.

edit: Plus doesn't he have better regen skills then Tsunade?

[MinatoXNaruto]

Everyone is giving Naruto all this hype but what has he done against Tobi(not the jinchuuriki). Nothing really. He can't even blitz Tobi. If Naruto can beat Hashirama, Tobi should be done right now.

[Godaime Kazekage]

Madara curb-stomped the kages and stated something about how Hashirama was the only one who could best him.

^ That's a fact, came from the manga. I'm not assuming stuff like with the cloak blocking pollen, who knows how the manga writer would PnJ this fight.

So, based on the stomping Madara did, I am going to say Hashirama.

edit: Plus doesn't he have better regen skills then Tsunade?

The Madara "curb-stomping" the Kages is Edo Madara with EMS, Rinnegan, Mokuton, a regenerating body, and an unlimited chakra pool. The Madara who fought Hashirama only had EMS and that Madara would've been taken down in one chapter by Gaara and Naruto's clone (Chapter 560). Onoki (with ease) and arguably Gaara could solo EMS Madara.

I don't see how it's an (inaccurate) assumption to say that the cloak will block the pollen-it's been shown to block physical objects/act as a barrier. Prove that the pollen can get through the cloak.

Hashirama did not have better regen skills than Tsunade, Madara only said that his healing tech was better because he could use it without seals (before he knew Tsunade could use Byakugo).

[Godaime Kazekage]

Everyone is giving Naruto all this hype but what has he done against Tobi(not the jinchuuriki). Nothing really. He can't even blitz Tobi. If Naruto can beat Hashirama, Tobi should be done right now.

What has he done...are you serious? He took on 6 Bijuu largely alone and the fight with Tobi is just beginning. Fighting Tobi is way different than fighting other shinobi-it's almost impossible to hit him due to his S/T jutsu, Hashirama doesn't have that advantage. Tobi can also react fairly well against Minato-he's super fast so he's not going to get blitzed, also Naruto hasn't fought against him in his newest mode yet-we'll have a better grasp on the situation on Weds. I find it exceedingly laughable that you say Naruto is the one getting hype when the entire argument for Hashirama rests on hype. What Naruto did against the Bijuu isn't hype-that's on panel feats.

Sorry for double posting`o.o"

[PrinceofPeace]

Naruto had back-up during the Tobi fight
The cloak has not blocked from breathing in toxins. So are you saying Posion Smoke would not even work?

[TobiramaSenju307]

Everyone is giving Naruto all this hype but what has he done against Tobi(not the jinchuuriki). Nothing really. He can't even blitz Tobi.
tobis above hashiramas level. its almost impossible to hit him. hes held up better than 99% of shinobis would vs 6 edo jins/bijuus plus tobi sharingan/rinnegan.


Madara curb-stomped the kages and stated something about how Hashirama was the only one who could best him.

^ That's a fact, came from the manga
character opinions cant be considered word of god. madaras incorrect. because sage of six paths, full power kabuto, tobi and shisui could best him too. madara hasnt met those people ergo his opinions biased and behind the times.

BUt Naruto has to breath and he would breath n the pollen
naruto has Sm clones and they will detect a huge cloud of chakra easy. kuramas faced hashirama so i think he would warn naruto about it and tell him how madara countered it.


How does Naruto beat Advent of following trees?
thirteen BM clones all using fuuton rasenshuriken

Hype wise Hashirama Stomps:
narutos the saviour, perfect jinchuriki, fastest man on the planet, and reincarnation/descendent of sage. how is that worse hype than hashiramas

Naruto's the one with the most jutsu in the series, I believe.
orochimaru or jiraiya say hi

[PrinceofPeace]

^ Great points I tottaly agree great job

Also look at them polls

[Godaime Kazekage]

Naruto had back-up during the Tobi fight
Yes, hence why I said he dealt with the Bijuu largely alone. He had help, but he did the lion's share of the work in fighting them.
The cloak has not blocked from breathing in toxins. So are you saying Posion Smoke would not even work?
Just because the cloak has never been shown to block toxins doesn't mean it can't. Tsunade has never been shown to break a twig in half, but that doesn't mean she can't. Yes, I'm saying poison smoke won't work-nothing is going to touch Naruto unless it can break through the cloak first through force and considering how durable his earlier cloaks were (4 tails blocked Orochimaru's Kusanagi sword) that's not likely to happen. Yes, this mode's cloak might not be as strong as as the V2 cloak, but it can certainly stop falling particles of pollen or poison gas which have no force/penetrating power behind them.


About polls: They're well and good, but the problem with them is people just vote before they've actually read the discussion. I've responded twice to people voting for Hashirama due to Madara beating the Kages and Madara saying only Hashirama could beat him even though current Madara is exponentially stronger than the Madara who fought Hashirama due to having Hashirama's and Pain's powers added to his own as well as being in Edo form which means regen and infinite chakra.

Now please tell me how Hashirama stops a Bijuu bomb, 13+ Rasenshuriken, a gigantic fire style attack enhanced with oil and wind, Ma+Pa's Genjutsu, or just getting blitzed by Bijuu Mode Naruto or his KCM clones. And don't say pollen because we've offered up multiple examples for how Naruto counters it.

[PrinceofPeace]

ok so we agree on that

That argument works in both ways for me and you. But Naruto is breathing in the pollen. So how does the cloak otuside of his body help?

Not all people vote before looking at OP.

Hashirama stopped a TBB before so he can do it again
Rasenshurikens are dodgable. Also he can counter with wood wall
Hashirama has the home filed advantage in the forest so blitzin gis hard
wheres the fire

[Godaime Kazekage]

ok so we agree on that

That argument works in both ways for me and you. But Naruto is breathing in the pollen. So how does the cloak otuside of his body help?
Hmm-I don't think you understand what I'm trying to convey so I'll try to make a diagram.

. ...... ...... .... ........... .......
. . ....... ......... ...... ........ . . . . ..
. .. . .KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK . . . . ...
. . . .KK ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, KK. . . .
. . .. KK ,,,,,,Dattebayo,,,,,,,KK .. .. . . .
. . . KK ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,KK . ... .
... KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK . . .
K=Kurama form chakra cloak (pretend that the K's form the shape of a fox and not a rectangle)
.=Pollen particle
Dattebayo=Naruto

The pollen doesn't get through the chakra cloak so he doesn't breathe it in.
Hashirama stopped a TBB before so he can do it again
Video game filler and that TBB sat there for an eternity and never exploded-As evidenced with Bee vs. Taka, jinks can make the TBB explode fairly quickly and Hashirama can't stop a TBB that has exploded.

Rasenshurikens are dodgable.
Good luck dodging it when the 3RK couldn't avoid the attack against one KCM clone-how's Hashirama going to dodge 13?

Also he can counter with wood wall
Rasenshuriken can cut through mountains-Wood wall's not gonna stop it.
Hashirama has the home filed advantage in the forest so blitzin gis hard
Not when Naruto has tons of clones to attack him with from different angles that will all be faster than him. Also Naruto can destroy the forest in a matter of seconds.
wheres the fire
Shima (aka Ma): Sage Art- Fire release stream

In bold.

P.S. I'm glad you joined the forum-even though we hardly ever agree there's so much more for me to do since Narutoverse is my favorite section of the forum.

[BMC1994]

@godaime

Nice Diagram :lol:

[PrinceofPeace]

Yeah nice diagram but I am still not convinced. I looked up the chakra cloak and it does not say anything about toxins so...........