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Ultimate combatant
07-01-2012, 05:59 AM
Both Rikudo Sennin and Gol D. Roger get all their feats as well as their hype and statements and other things. They get full knowledge. Both are completely health and can live a long life.

They can cooperate perfectly!!! :D

The two start at any location on Earth they wish. Modern Technology side doesn`t know they are in a fight. They don`t know anything about the two, not even that two are on Earth.

The two are resistant to ourverse diseases and ourverse is resistant to their diseases.

Who wins?!! :D

How much damage is done to each side?!! :D

shinigan no sora
07-01-2012, 10:17 AM
As soon as they make there first moves to attack a strike force or para military group is sent out which would easily kill both

Or there's always farmer(s) w/ shotgun

Leafy
07-01-2012, 10:52 AM
Agent Orange. GG

Devils Lawyer
07-01-2012, 11:49 AM
If Rikudo could indeed create a moon we would all die quite easily even with our tech.

shinigan no sora
07-01-2012, 12:03 PM
Not really DL

Considering that CT(which is how it is believved he created the moon) isn't instant and its more of a imprisoning tech than it is for smashing things not to mention that the moon creation feat(hype) is believed to have severely weakend him also we don't know the size of the NU's moon it might not be very big at all ass far as moons go and thus be less of a threat

Also as soon as he pulls a big chunk of the earth up like that he has revealed himself and what ever country is nearby will scramble well armed aircraft or at least some HF equipped drones

Or since they do already exist just haven't yet been launched RL ATM we have orbital cannons that can ciy bust and IIRC both roger and RS have no durability feats in canon nor by hype so we can asssume their durability is fodder level as with their speeds

megabbaut
07-01-2012, 12:17 PM
They can create rain and not even technology can stop nature.

shinigan no sora
07-01-2012, 12:31 PM
Show when and where they made it rain

Also rain wont stop snipers or weather proofed drones and certainly wont do a damn thing to an orbital weapon.

megabbaut
07-01-2012, 12:43 PM
The Rinnegan makes it rain in the Hidden Rain Village endlessly and Rikudu Sennin has mastered the Rinnegan

TRcommander
07-01-2012, 12:51 PM
Life wiping rain? Riiiiiiggggghhhhhhttttttt.................

I guess if he could somehow do it across the entire world non stop for several years then he might destroy enough of the eco system to put a hurt on us, but people would find a way to survive, and I'm sure we'd find and kill him before it got that far. And like SnS said, we don't know how big their moon is so there's no way to know how much damage he could cause with ct.

shinigan no sora
07-01-2012, 12:53 PM
Chapters and pages for proof

megabbaut
07-01-2012, 12:53 PM
Enough rain will cause floods and long storms. Then they can proceed to kill the few survivors, if any.

shinigan no sora
07-01-2012, 01:06 PM
Yeah but the best feat for AoE constant rain is a tiny ass third world villiage and FYI apparently even that viliage wasn't flooded in the slightest it was muddy as all hell but people weren't drowning from it raining constantly.

Also that will just make it easy to find and kill the dude since. He'd be making it rain in one localised area for an odd amount of time

also I find it rather suspect that its truly constant rain or even caused by the rinnegan since we see many panels where its NOT raining a drop in amegakure during konan and nagato's flashbacks to their child hood. So I'm calling BS on the whole claim of rinegan even causing it to rain

Devils Lawyer
07-01-2012, 01:16 PM
He could Nagato was stated to master all of the elements pre pain. The rain was a jutsu designed to detect intruders. He probably the most all around character in Naruto.

shinigan no sora
07-01-2012, 01:27 PM
Its still not enough to do what was being suggested

Ultimate combatant
07-01-2012, 02:05 PM
One swing of a tail of Kyuubi makes mountains crumble and causes Tsunamis. Imagine what Juubi can do. And Rikudo Sennin defeated Juubi!!! :D

Shikamaru Nara
07-01-2012, 02:07 PM
Seems to me like this all results the same way. :/
I'd say toxic warfare, GG.

Again, like TBC said last time.

Devils Lawyer
07-01-2012, 02:08 PM
It still had an aoe the size of a city.. That is still decent..

shinigan no sora
07-01-2012, 02:11 PM
Ulti

All that was retconned in more recentchapters except for RS beating Jubbi. Who is featless


DL

Yeah a ssmall city in a poor third world country that wasn't affected negatively by the rain itself

Once weather sats pick up on the anomally there WILL be an investigation

Shikamaru Nara
07-01-2012, 02:12 PM
OP says he gets hype.

shinigan no sora
07-01-2012, 02:27 PM
But it was retconned so it is in admissablel and so he doesn't get that since it was contradicted and when WoG andauthor statements are contradicted the newer statement is taken as the official one and since the minato vs kyubi fight was shown kyubbi lost his former hype and MUST be measured by the new feats/statements

Devils Lawyer
07-01-2012, 03:19 PM
But it was retconned so it is in admissablel and so he doesn't get that since it was contradicted and when WoG andauthor statements are contradicted the newer statement is taken as the official one and since the minato vs kyubi fight was shown kyubbi lost his former hype and MUST be measured by the new feats/statements

The only thing that changed with the kyubi is how it takes out a mountain. It still OS a casual mountain buster. But back to Nagato the rain never stopped for years. Him increasing his range is possible.

Narutonamikaze85
07-01-2012, 03:36 PM
Couldn't Roger just knock out every human with Haki.
The sage could just rip souls out with the nine dragons that came out of gedo mazo.

Ultimate combatant
07-01-2012, 04:27 PM
Also, about Kyuubi. Narrator, stated swing of Kyuubi`s tail makes mountains crumble and causes Tsunamis.

I have encountered a few forums where feats are valued more than hype and other statements. This is one of those forums, so I don`t expect you to change your view, however, I have stated explicitly:

Both Rikudo Sennin and Gol D. Roger get all their feats as well as their hype and statements and other things.

which means that in this thread, it is perfectly valid, to state swing of Kyuubi`s tail makes mountains crumble and causes Tsunamis!!! :D

Couldn't Roger just knock out every human with Haki.
The sage could just rip souls out with the nine dragons that came out of gedo mazo.

Luffy knocked out 50000 opponents (Fishmen and people) who are stronger than peak human.

I`d say Gol D. Roger who is far stronger can knock out many more people!!! :D

The Immortal Watch Dog
07-01-2012, 04:36 PM
a hypersonic nuclear bomb deposited from space ends this farce of a match up

and if nukes are banned a Carbon rod gets shoved up RS arse at near luminous speeds from orbit

shinigan no sora
07-01-2012, 04:40 PM
No ulti once something is retconned its no longer usable because it is hype that has been proven irrevocably false you can't use kyubbi being huge as hell and crushing mountains and causing tsunamis. Anymore with just a casual tail swing because THAT HYPE IS NO LONGER VALID EVEN AS HYPE

As for roger he not only has zero feats but zero hype other than that he was the greatest of his time so you can't claim anything really for him either

Devils Lawyer
07-01-2012, 04:56 PM
No ulti once something is retconned its no longer usable because it is hype that has been proven irrevocably false you can't use kyubbi being huge as hell and crushing mountains and causing tsunamis. Anymore with just a casual tail swing because THAT HYPE IS NO LONGER VALID EVEN AS HYPE

As for roger he not only has zero feats but zero hype other than that he was the greatest of his time so you can't claim anything really for him either
Roger tied with Whitebeard that is a feat. :)

Narutonamikaze85
07-01-2012, 05:08 PM
No ulti once something is retconned its no longer usable because it is hype that has been proven irrevocably false you can't use kyubbi being huge as hell and crushing mountains and causing tsunamis. Anymore with just a casual tail swing because THAT HYPE IS NO LONGER VALID EVEN AS HYPE

As for roger he not only has zero feats but zero hype other than that he was the greatest of his time so you can't claim anything really for him either

Actually that statement can be true because the Kyuubi has gotten smaller compared to when it attacked the village. Remember it shrunk drastically when Minato tooks it's yang half.

shinigan no sora
07-01-2012, 05:10 PM
No ulti once something is retconned its no longer usable because it is hype that has been proven irrevocably false you can't use kyubbi being huge as hell and crushing mountains and causing tsunamis. Anymore with just a casual tail swing because THAT HYPE IS NO LONGER VALID EVEN AS HYPE

As for roger he not only has zero feats but zero hype other than that he was the greatest of his time so you can't claim anything really for him either

Well IWD roger and RS have prep and intel

@minatonamikaze85

No it isn't. Go and lookat the flashback of minato vs Kyubbi and compare with naruto & kushina versus kyubbi.

Kyubbi is the same size in kushina/naruto vs kyubbi as he was BEFORE minato sealed his yang chakra

Narutonamikaze85
07-01-2012, 05:19 PM
No ulti once something is retconned its no longer usable because it is hype that has been proven irrevocably false you can't use kyubbi being huge as hell and crushing mountains and causing tsunamis. Anymore with just a casual tail swing because THAT HYPE IS NO LONGER VALID EVEN AS HYPE

As for roger he not only has zero feats but zero hype other than that he was the greatest of his time so you can't claim anything really for him either

Well IWD roger and RS have prep and intel

@minatonamikaze85

No it isn't. Go and lookat the flashback of minato vs Kyubbi and compare with naruto & kushina versus kyubbi.

Kyubbi is the same size in kushina/naruto vs kyubbi as he was BEFORE minato sealed his yang chakra

Yes it is. Look at the flashback. Before Minato took it's yang half out it was larger. When Minato do it became smaller. Your just lucky I can't show you the scan.

Ultimate combatant
07-01-2012, 05:20 PM
No ulti once something is retconned its no longer usable because it is hype that has been proven irrevocably false you can't use kyubbi being huge as hell and crushing mountains and causing tsunamis. Anymore with just a casual tail swing because THAT HYPE IS NO LONGER VALID EVEN AS HYPE

As for roger he not only has zero feats but zero hype other than that he was the greatest of his time so you can't claim anything really for him either

To retcon it, Narrator would have to do it. The Kyuubi in recent has half of it`s Chakra selaed by Minato, so the Kyuubi you see, is not 100% Kyuubi!!! :D

Also when did Kyuubi try to cause Tsunami in Manga, I don`t remember?!! :D

Shikamaru Nara
07-01-2012, 05:21 PM
Yes it is. Look at the flashback. Before Minato took it's yang half out it was larger. When Minato do it became smaller. Your just lucky I can't show you the scan.

You can PM him the scan.

Vivi
07-01-2012, 05:22 PM
Also, about Kyuubi. Narrator, stated swing of Kyuubi`s tail makes mountains crumble and causes Tsunamis.



Which is proven a lie considering that the Kyuubi was rampaging in Konoha yet it still stands.

If it had such power noone would have survived.

which means that in this thread, it is perfectly valid, to state swing of Kyuubi`s tail makes mountains crumble and causes Tsunamis!!! :DActually it's still invalid as it ain't hype anymore cause it was actually disproven by feats causing the hype to get nullfied and replaced by facts.

Nullfied hype is invalid.No Rule says that but it's common sense to anyone apart from the Naruto Fanboys.

Also when did Kyuubi try to cause Tsunami in Manga, I don`t remember?!! :D

Never.But considering that it was unable to eliminate the citizens of Konoha and destroy the village to the ground proves that the Narration is false.

megabbaut
07-01-2012, 05:25 PM
The reason why it didn't cause much damage to the village was because it was under Tobi's control and he was focusing on Minato. The one attack the Kyuubi did on Minato, he warped it away.

Then when he lost control it was quickly sealed afterwards.

321zigzag3
07-01-2012, 05:26 PM
It is not wrong to think Kyuubi can do the tail swipe crush mountains thing but we technically have not seen anything from it.


Hachibi did make a near town-sized twister anyway.

megabbaut
07-01-2012, 05:26 PM
So in reality it has never been disproved.

shinigan no sora
07-01-2012, 05:30 PM
No. Ulti that's not true about retcons

For example at one point in time the beyonder of marvel comics was supposedly omnipotent but later that was changed by an author at marvel revealing cube beings such as kubik and kosmos. And kubik was revealed to be more powerful than beyonder through character statement and on panel feats

Panel shows kyubbi the same size after yang chakra was sealed and before

Panel feat>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hype. No matter what OP says

Vivi
07-01-2012, 05:32 PM
The reason why it didn't cause much damage to the village was because it was under Tobi's control and he was focusing on Minato. The one attack the Kyuubi did on Minato, he warped it away.

Then when he lost control it was quickly sealed afterwards.

So being under Tobi's control magically surpresses the Kyuubis Power now as well?
Prove it.
Chapter,Page and Panel.

He wasn't.We saw the Kyuubi later chased out by a bunch of Shinobi among them the freaking Elders not focusing on Yondaime so don't gimme that.


Yeah lost control and still didn't do crap with it's oh so mighty power.

It is not wrong to think Kyuubi can do the tail swipe crush mountains thing but we technically have not seen anything from it.Again if it would be able to then Konoha wouldn't even exist.

Devils Lawyer
07-01-2012, 05:34 PM
Again the kyubi energy was still enough to tie with several mountain busters in it's weaker current form. The energy it used aganst Minato destroyed what looked to be mountains or massive hills. Nothing really contradicts the statement just people still in denial over it's power.:lol:

Vivi
07-01-2012, 05:35 PM
No DL, thats just you wanking over it not denial.

Narutonamikaze85
07-01-2012, 05:35 PM
So being under Tobi's control magically surpresses the Kyuubis Power now as well?
Prove it.
Chapter,Page and Panel.

He wasn't.We saw the Kyuubi later chased out by a bunch of Shinobi among them the freaking Elders not focusing on Yondaime so don't gimme that.


Yeah lost control and still didn't do crap with it's oh so mighty power.

Again if it would be able to then Konoha wouldn't even exist.

Then answer this.

If Minato let the Bijuu Dama explode, what would have happened to the village?

Vivi
07-01-2012, 05:38 PM
Naturally the village would been obliterated.

Irrelevant point though.
We're talking about a Tail Swipe that is supposed to destroy/crumble Mountains not the Bijuu Dama.
By that logic a single Tail Swipe should have destroyed all of Konoha instead of the Citizens actually being able to drive it off while Yondaime was busy with Tobi.

Devils Lawyer
07-01-2012, 05:39 PM
No DL, thats just you wanking over it not denial.
What wanking did it not tie with several mountain busters in it's weaker form? Did it not blow up large formations with it's diverted blast? It can only be considered wanking if I stated something and stretched it. I have done none of that. So therefore it falls back into you downplaying category.

Devils Lawyer
07-01-2012, 05:43 PM
Also Madara just casually swiped a mountain and several Kilometers of land. The story clearly supports that type of power. The Minato fight is clearly what one would stamp PIS on it.

Vivi
07-01-2012, 05:44 PM
No I'm using facts DL.


But yeah mountain busters and tail swipes that destroys mountains yet unable to annihilate Konoha.Funny lad you are.

Also Madara just casually swiped a mountain and several Kilometers of land. The story clearly supports that type of power.

Susanoo =/= Kyuubi.

Narutonamikaze85
07-01-2012, 05:44 PM
Naturally the village would been obliterated.

Irrelevant point though.
We're talking about a Tail Swipe that is supposed to destroy/crumble Mountains not the Bijuu Dama.
By that logic a single Tail Swipe should have destroyed all of Konoha instead of the Citizens actually being able to drive it off while Yondaime was busy with Tobi.

Kyuubi wouldn't be able to destory all of Konoha with one Tail Swipe but he can destroy a large portion of it.

The current Kurama is weak compared to its orginal self, yet look at what he has done.

Vivi
07-01-2012, 05:47 PM
Yet I still see that people survived and fought it off despite such "overwhelming" power.

Unless you actually try to tell me that the Elders now have the durability to withstand such attacks.


Nothing changes the fact that Kyuubi despite its rumoured power was unable to annihilate Konoha.
By its hyped power Konoha should have been done in seconds instead, the Kyuubi got driven off.

Narutonamikaze85
07-01-2012, 05:50 PM
Yet I still see that people survived and fought it off despite such "overwhelming" power.

Unless you actually try to tell me that the Elders now have the durability to withstand such attacks.


Plot No Jutsu stopped Kurama from destroying Konoha.

Ultimate combatant
07-01-2012, 06:03 PM
Susanoo =/= Kyuubi.

Kyuubi>>>Susanoo !!! :D

Devils Lawyer
07-01-2012, 06:15 PM
No I'm using facts DL.


But yeah mountain busters and tail swipes that destroys mountains yet unable to annihilate Konoha.Funny lad you are.



Susanoo =/= Kyuubi.

So you are saying we actually seen the kyubi in real combat. The Hachibi already proves the beasts power don't just depend on the mb. Not only that he knocked said mountain busters casually away with said tails in question.

Madara saying the beasts power is comparable with his makes that statement plausible.

321zigzag3
07-01-2012, 06:48 PM
Panel shows kyubbi the same size after yang chakra was sealed and before


No, it actually did shrink somewhat if I recall.



Again if it would be able to then Konoha wouldn't even exist.

You are ignoring Hachibi's twister feat and the fact it shouldn't be surprising that Kyuubi can do something greater.

Not to mention 5 minute incomplete Kyuubi with half chakra is already at least a multi-mountain buster anyway.


The only thing going in your favor is the lack of panel evidence and the fact Kyuubi did not show everything other than a bijuu dama.



WHich is why another thing, tail swipe feat cannot be used as a feat yet.

shinigan no sora
07-01-2012, 07:02 PM
FKM naruto didn't use his own power to destroy those mountains. He deflected the 5 incoming BD's and they busted one mountain each

Devils Lawyer
07-01-2012, 07:03 PM
Kishi hasn't don't it yet but he is clearly setting the story up for a crazy battle. Wouldn't be surprised if a country get erased.:lol:

Devils Lawyer
07-01-2012, 07:05 PM
FKM naruto didn't use his own power to destroy those mountains. He deflected the 5 incoming BD's and they busted one mountain each

His power clashed with all the be equally. That puts it power in the multi mountain territory.

321zigzag3
07-01-2012, 07:06 PM
FKM naruto didn't use his own power to destroy those mountains. He deflected the 5 incoming BD's and they busted one mountain each

Have you never read the part when Naruto's Bijuu dama overpowered the other 5 bijuu dama's combined?

Kishi hasn't don't it yet but he is clearly setting the story up for a crazy battle. Wouldn't be surprised if a country get erased.:lol:

I am telling you man.

Space Ninjas.

Kishimoto will probably reveal Rikudo Sennin then say there is an omnipotent God just to troll even more.

shinigan no sora
07-01-2012, 07:15 PM
DL its a freaking combat centric shounen series. Name one damn series like that that didn't have a massive(by its universe standards) battle near the tail end

Can't think of one can ya? Its kinda a hur durr thing to say so


Oh and space ninjas. REALLY!!!????

321zigzag3
07-01-2012, 07:44 PM
If you are laughing directly at my joke prediction about Kishimoto having Naruto space ninjas in the future that is completely fine and understandable. :lol:

Narutonamikaze85
07-01-2012, 07:47 PM
Have you never read the part when Naruto's Bijuu dama overpowered the other 5 bijuu dama's combined?



I am telling you man.

Space Ninjas.

Kishimoto will probably reveal Rikudo Sennin then say there is an omnipotent God just to troll even more.

Lol I always had a theory about there being space ninjas that protect the Juubi's body.

321zigzag3
07-01-2012, 07:56 PM
Lol I always had a theory about there being space ninjas that protect the Juubi's body.

It is incredibly hilarious how much power got inflated in this manga series.

megabbaut
07-01-2012, 08:00 PM
So being under Tobi's control magically surpresses the Kyuubis Power now as well?
Prove it.
Chapter,Page and Panel.

He wasn't.We saw the Kyuubi later chased out by a bunch of Shinobi among them the freaking Elders not focusing on Yondaime so don't gimme that.


Yeah lost control and still didn't do crap with it's oh so mighty power.

Again if it would be able to then Konoha wouldn't even exist.
No it's not that it's power was suppressed. While the Shinobi forces were trying to repel it, Tobi lost control and it shot a TBB at Konoha which Minato warped away. That's why Konoha wasn't destroyed. It's weapon was warped away.

shinigan no sora
07-01-2012, 08:03 PM
IKR!!!!!

I mean power in the story I'm writing powers go from tenjho tenge/air gear level to holy **** and sort of quick(not too quick tho) but I put some logic into it and its over a few decades in story

megabbaut
07-01-2012, 08:04 PM
Wrong thread, sorry guys.

Devils Lawyer
07-01-2012, 08:06 PM
DL its a freaking combat centric shounen series. Name one damn series like that that didn't have a massive(by its universe standards) battle near the tail end

Can't think of one can ya? Its kinda a hur durr thing to say so



Okay and your point.:lol:

Narutonamikaze85
07-01-2012, 08:30 PM
It is incredibly hilarious how much power got inflated in this manga series.

Yeah maybe it's just Kishi that's to lazy. Pein for example, has the power to destroy the whole shinobi world but Kishi didn't show all he could do.