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Yori
05-28-2012, 08:41 AM
And win every fight? Can his real illusions work on the tailed beasts? Is Aizen Suigetsu useless? Discuss!!!

Noctis Arashi
05-28-2012, 08:51 AM
Well, There are things in naruto like izanami and kotoamatsukami. If he can work around that, then he works his way through.

Devils Lawyer
05-28-2012, 10:17 AM
His illusions are powerful but if an indivdual with a powerful enough AOE flatlines the entire area he dies.

Yori
05-28-2012, 10:37 AM
His illusions are powerful but if an indivdual with a powerful enough AOE flatlines the entire area he dies.

Forgetting the 8th flame?

Devils Lawyer
05-28-2012, 10:40 AM
Yeah I forgot I read khr on the fly. What was the abilty again?

Yori
05-28-2012, 10:44 AM
Yeah I forgot I read khr on the fly. What was the abilty again?

It's the Vindice flame, but Daemon can use it also The ability is transportation! Increases power levels, Capable of a large AOE that can destroy anything

Uchiha Sora
05-28-2012, 11:00 AM
Well he blitzes most of the Narutoverse already, doesn't he? :lol: Keeping up with Tsuna is pretty good.

He should be able to run through bleach too, but wouldn't Mukuro do the same?

megabbaut
05-28-2012, 11:02 AM
He cannot see Shinigami. Bleach stomps.

Uchiha Sora
05-28-2012, 11:11 AM
Except the part where he's friggin daemon spade

If all energies are equal then technically Daemon has reiatsu so he should be able to see them :geek:

megabbaut
05-28-2012, 11:19 AM
What is the energy equivalent of reiatsu in KHR?

Devils Lawyer
05-28-2012, 11:21 AM
It's the Vindice flame, but Daemon can use it also The ability is transportation! Increases power levels, Capable of a large AOE that can destroy anything

It would still depend on location etc. He could pretty much rape the majority. But pain, Itachi, Kabuto, Minato, Danzo, and anyone who operates on that level of fighting should be able to counter. Didn't Tsuna use a strong enough attack to break his genjutsu. Which makes me think the illusions do have a limit.

Uchiha Sora
05-28-2012, 12:08 PM
What is the energy equivalent of reiatsu in KHR?
Dying Will Flames/Deathperation Flames/Flame Volts

megabbaut
05-28-2012, 03:47 PM
I see. Well anyway they'll have trouble against genjutsu and kido stuff

Yori
05-28-2012, 03:47 PM
Ultimate Daemon I'm talking about also (In Mukuros Body)

DL: Tsuna wasn't on par with Daemon until both his and the Simon family ring fused together. So Daemon was casually whooping Tsuna, and Enma ass.

BFR
All of the Simon rings
Daemons Lens - Can see through any genjutsu/illusion
Teleportation

Complete Daemon - Can use the Simon and Vongalabrings together with the exception of Sky and Earth.

Aizen like regeneration
Multiplication

Uchiha Sora
05-28-2012, 03:56 PM
I see. Well anyway they'll have trouble against genjutsu and kido stuff

Not Daemon or Mukuro who are better with illusions then anyone in the Narutoverse will ever be.
Then he's got dat lens.
Kido? Like which lol

Vongolatheeleventh
06-02-2012, 07:47 AM
Against the ENTIRE verses, if he were running through, he can probably do it but with high difficulty. He doesn't exactly have limitless energy here, but his illusions are generally more than powerful enough for the HST, seeing as how KHR illusionary is showing feats of low level reality warping. And he already out-right blitzes most of the characters, and for those that work around the speed issue, his teleportation which even gives him a spiritual body after he exits the host (Bleachlol) is above the speeds of Naruto/Bleach for sure... It wouldn't be easy, but I see him spamming the hedgehog balls and with cloud flame multiplecation and expansion, the verses suffer... Aizen and Bijuu should survive that, but they won't be able to take it forever, so yeah, if it was just a run through, high difficulty but he can potentially do it. If it were straight forward all the verses against him though, I don't see him making it.

Edit: No one in KHR should be able to solo an HST verse in straight forward combat, they should still be able to do incredible damage due to more recent feats, but even Naruto high tiers are getting mountain level ability

Devils Lawyer
06-02-2012, 09:25 AM
Ultimate Daemon I'm talking about also (In Mukuros Body)

DL: Tsuna wasn't on par with Daemon until both his and the Simon family ring fused together. So Daemon was casually whooping Tsuna, and Enma ass.



I know this which is why I still bring up the fact Tsuna was still capable of shatter his illusions with enough power. Tsuna combined flames still doesn't equal the power of one bijuu bomb, CO, CT, ST, and a few other attacks.

Then we have to debate the illusions. Are they truly more powerful than genjutsu? In fact they are too different. Genjutsu directly effects the mind and shatters it there is no recovery from it unless you get help or counter it before hand. It alters the signals in the body. Daemon Spade brings illusions to life. He can also do mind control and body possesion. The mind control is the only thing really similiar to genjutsu. Also the fact they are both illusions is the only other similiarity it's not the same attack.