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MinatoXNaruto
05-27-2012, 05:40 PM
In order to use Izanagi, don't you need both Uchiha and Senju DNA to use it. How did all those Uchiha use Izanagi? Did they just get blood from the Senju and just transfer it into them or something? I hope Kishi isn't trolling
kalmeast
05-27-2012, 08:33 PM
No...u don't need senju DNA...i think we all got confused cuz danzo had senju. But the reason why we had the senju DNA is to be able to wield 11 sharingans at once without passing out like kakashi.
Cult of Personality
05-27-2012, 09:12 PM
More importantly, why was its use so prolific when it can be used twice in any given person's lifetime? Failing murdering your brother for his eyes...
Maruko
05-28-2012, 01:58 AM
I think that Senju DNA only makes the jutsu last longer.
Also, a long time ago, Uchiha bloodline was stronger and closer to the sage, maybe that's why they were able to use it more than twice.
We also have Danzou's way, steal Sharingan from dead members and...voila!
Uchiha Sora
05-28-2012, 08:49 AM
Never said Senju DNA was required, it only helped Danzo use the jutsu easier and more efficiently
I mean come on how would they discover the technique in the first place? Some random
Uchiha implants Senju dna into himself for no reason and makes Izanagi ?
tsuki
05-28-2012, 10:08 AM
I'm thinking the Jutsu was not a Dojutsu before, and the Uchiha did something to limit its power and make it a Dojutsu.
Maruko
05-28-2012, 11:58 AM
Interesting.
TheBlackChidoriswalrus
05-28-2012, 04:48 PM
Well, 2 things
1. We know that Izanagi use Yin and Yang (Physical and spiritual energy). So you have Yin chakra to create shape and form from nothingness. Then you have Yang chakra so you would breathe life into the prior form. Thus, a technique with the power to turn imagination into reality of course. In other words, to control your own state of existence
2. We also know that you need both Senju and Uchiha DNA to fully use Izanagi. Now, what I mean to fully use of Izanagi, is the last sentence from the first explanation I wrote. Now, if you have only Uchiha DNA like Itachi for example, you can only have brief control of reality. If you have both Senju and Uchiha DNA, you obviously can have the ability to remove the boundaries between reality and illusion within their personal space.
Hope that explains it.
kalmeast
05-28-2012, 05:10 PM
^ What? who are u? at first i'm like, that's a lotta text from TBC, then I saw rep power:0
ah...i see, a bootleg.
Maruko
05-29-2012, 01:00 AM
Ha-ha-ha! Another TBC!
This looks like a war to me! :3
Kyūbi no Yōko
05-29-2012, 04:38 AM
Well, 2 things
1. We know that Izanagi use Yin and Yang (Physical and spiritual energy). So you have Yin chakra to create shape and form from nothingness. Then you have Yang chakra so you would breathe life into the prior form. Thus, a technique with the power to turn imagination into reality of course. In other words, to control your own state of existence
2. We also know that you need both Senju and Uchiha DNA to fully use Izanagi. Now, what I mean to fully use of Izanagi, is the last sentence from the first explanation I wrote. Now, if you have only Uchiha DNA like Itachi for example, you can only have brief control of reality. If you have both Senju and Uchiha DNA, you obviously can have the ability to remove the boundaries between reality and illusion within their personal space.
Hope that explains it.
Impostor.
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TheSuperPirateNinja
05-29-2012, 05:29 AM
See Danzo Is Different Compared To All Other Uchica Meaning You Don't Need Senju DNA For Izanagi That Just Helps Improves It For Example Look At Senju Which Can Hold 11 Sharingan While Uchica Can Only Hold 2 Then Again Since Hes Not A True Heir To Uchica Seemily He Can Only Do Izangai For One Minute Each Izanami Which Was. Dojustu Use To Stop Izanagi Also You Need Both Uchica And Senju DNA To Fully Complete Izangai Meaning For Example Itachi Only Has Uchica DNA He's Limted To Only Have Brief Control Over Relaity While If You Have Both Uchica And Senju DNA Not Only Do You Have A Longer Time To Expand Izanagi But You Also Have More Control Over Illusion and Reality.
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Kurama-
05-29-2012, 08:28 AM
Chapter 510 Page 10
You need both.
TheSuperPirateNinja
05-29-2012, 09:50 AM
Ok Then Something Must Have Happen With Uchia That Seperate Them From Senju
Where Is Senju
Uchiha Sora
05-29-2012, 01:41 PM
Only other explanation is that Kishi forgot, or The Uchiha still had senju blood in them. The further down the family tree you go, the more distant the senju blood becomes, and the ability to use Izanagi fades
But that doesn't explain how Itachi can use Izanami, unless it doesn't require senju DNA which I doubt it does
Maruko
05-29-2012, 01:57 PM
I think that Senju DNA is required only to those who are not Uchiha, like Danzo.
Rikudo Sage
05-29-2012, 07:34 PM
Izanagi and Izanami is a pair of forbidden jutsu.. so they should have the same requirement and sideffect to the user.. otherwise calling them a PAIR is not worthy.. So where I am going with this? Hashirama\\\'s DNA is not really required to activate Izanagi and Izanami! Hashi DNA can only strengthen the jutsu but not really required.. also Izanagi and Izanami are labelled forbidden jutsu among the Uchiha clan and It wouldn\\\'t be a forbidden jutsu among the Uchiha if they couldn\\\'t do it . This implies that some other Uchiha\\\'s were able to do the jutsu w/o Hashirama\\\'s DNA.. ^ Like I said couple of months ago..
Uchiha Sora
05-29-2012, 07:42 PM
^Tobi actually SAID that "Only those who have Senju and Uchiha something something can use this power"
I like my explanation bettah :geek:
The Uchiha still had senju blood in them. The further down the family tree you go, the more distant the senju blood becomes, and the ability to use Izanagi fades.
The jutsu are a pair because one stops the other. Being a pair doesn't equate to the same requirements.
JashinSama
05-29-2012, 08:03 PM
No...u don't need senju DNA...i think we all got confused cuz danzo had senju. But the reason why we had the senju DNA is to be able to wield 11 sharingans at once without passing out like kakashi.
This.
This is the only reason he had Senju DNA.
Besides that, I think the only way to achieve Rinnegan is with the power of an Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Senju DNA.
matrixhunter
05-30-2012, 08:02 AM
so tobi lied about needing senju dna also in order to use a complete izangi. But why did he lie?
Cult of Personality
05-30-2012, 10:18 AM
Because he's a liar. That's what liars do.
Wooster
05-30-2012, 10:20 AM
They have all have it because otherwise Danzo would be more powerful than Itachi. Kishi can't have that.
Kyūbi no Yōko
05-30-2012, 12:14 PM
Because Tobi didn't know that Izanagi could be used w/o Senju, LOL.
He was fooled by Danzo. (probably)
Maruko
05-30-2012, 12:20 PM
Senju DNA allows a non-Uchiha to use Izanagi more efficient!
Danzo needed Senju DNA to wield all those Sharingans without passing out.
TheBlackChidoriswalrus
06-25-2012, 07:30 PM
^ What? who are u? at first i'm like, that's a lotta text from TBC, then I saw rep power:0
ah...i see, a bootleg.
Ha-ha-ha! Another TBC!
This looks like a war to me! :3
[QUOTE=Kyūbi no Yōko;6053268]Impostor.
Well blame him for taking away all my powers. Like posting and stuff and sending PM's. I created this account because I wanted to tell the admins if they can fix my account because TBC was the one who put me on lock down just because I used his username on PSN without asking him. Now I don't blame him for that, but that doesn't give him the reason to take my powers as a normal member and change my username from Naruto321 to Username Thief.
I know its funny. But still, got me upset also
kalmeast
06-25-2012, 07:36 PM
^ I'm like cracking up...cus first I thought it was TBC again...i got fooled twice..
besides, ur comment is funny
TheBlackChidoriswalrus
06-25-2012, 09:00 PM
Well its the truth
Shadow Clone77
06-26-2012, 02:50 AM
Izanagi is overrated anyways. It causes blindness even with MS. Susanoo requires two MS according to the storyline if you use Izanagi you lose Susanoo that would have to be a last resort to lose that much power.
It only worked for Danzo because he had 10 sharingan + Shisui's eye. Tobi used it, but he replaces eyes because he has a collection of sharingan.
It is overrated and wouldn't be enough for a regulaer Uchiha to kill a kage or sage level ninja. Uchiha are overrated without MS or EMS.
It could require Senju DNA to use it anyways unless Tobi lied. Which isn't unlikely he has lied about a lot of things
zerosameri
06-26-2012, 06:37 AM
on a technicality they all have Senju blood, just not in the purest forum :lol:
Maruko
06-26-2012, 06:47 AM
Indeed, they're both close to Sage.
TheBlackChidori
06-26-2012, 10:06 AM
Fixed that username for you.
Housh
06-26-2012, 10:32 AM
Easy they just took eyes from the dead and boom no 10 year limit.
Also let's say they all awaken their sharingan at 15. And have the ability to use Izanagi by 20. 20 30 40 50 60. Thats 5 Izanagis right there more for the ones who live longer
TheBlackChidoriswalrus
06-26-2012, 03:35 PM
Fixed that username for you.
I meant the account that has the username Username Thief
I wanted to be changed back to Naruto321 the way it was. I want to create this account to I can contact you or the admins.
And I want my powers back so I can post and stuff.
Ultimate combatant
06-26-2012, 03:39 PM
I meant the account that has the username Username Thief
I wanted to be changed back to Naruto321 the way it was. I want to create this account to I can contact you or the admins.
And I want my powers back so I can post and stuff.
Why was your username changed to Thief?!! :D
TheBlackChidoriswalrus
06-26-2012, 06:00 PM
Because I used his username on PSN without asking. So he got upset about it and I don't blame him for being upset.
Wooster
06-26-2012, 06:04 PM
:lol:
TheBlackChidoriswalrus
06-26-2012, 06:07 PM
Of course its funny
Kyūbi no Yōko
06-27-2012, 04:10 AM
Fixed that username for you.
Why do you relate PSN to Viz?
:lol:
that's mod power abuse, padawan.
Maruko
06-27-2012, 04:14 AM
Walrus? LMAO!
TheBlackChidoriswalrus
06-27-2012, 11:28 PM
Why do you relate PSN to Viz?
:lol:
that's mod power abuse, padawan.
reason for my name change
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