Are animals more like people or are people more like animals?

[mrsticky005]

debate

[ILIKEPIE]

people are animals which means this debate is pointless

[Shisko Shi]

Yes we may be animals, but dosent meen we act like them. Seeing he is asking if we are like animals or vis vera (belive i said that right), not if we are animals. but in my opinion we are savages like animals seeing their will never really be peace, but just like humans animals will care for others. Like ther was on the new one day a KO 6 year old in a cage full of Gorillas and some wanted to see what she was or attack were as one treated her like a mother and rockted like a baby. She ever laid her on the ground and then backed up for the gaurds to get her. So that gorilla protecting the kid tells me they do have feelings of others and all.

[mrsticky005]

people are animals which means this debate is pointless

I meant other animals, silly.

Debate continues.

[ILIKEPIE]

both cats and humans can open doors

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8xiB4a4woM&feature=player_detailpage

[Cult of Personality]

Animals are more civilized than people. Also, most of them are less assholes than people are.

[Kreegah!!!]

Animals are more civilized than people. Also, most of them are less assholes than people are.

And here is a list of your exceptions (which you could have included, but I understand that you felt most of us should be capable of researching this--however, this is the internet, which is for lazies): http://www.cracked.com/article_19717_6-insect-predators-that-go-out-their-way-to-be-evil.html and http://www.cracked.com/article_19719_6-terrifying-new-creatures-science-just-discovered.html

Monkey see, monkey do. I believe they take after us, but that many of us have decided to take after them. Sort of like TV poorly imitating Life for entertainment value, but now everyone's imitating TV for social value.

The human race is a bunch of assclowns.

[Bacon]

Everything linked to emotion is nothing more than instinct at varying degrees. for instance, the phrase " in the heat of passion" is merely result of uninhibited human nature. People have committed acts from the beginning of recorded history which can be considered inhumane. Though I feel the only difference between us and animals is our ability to(but not necessarily always) construct false realities and feel empathy for one another.

The former is concerned with the stigma of incest,but to an animal it's just passing on genes. The bubble our society has created has made it something bad,but what if society breaks down? Well anyone who has read about war knows what happens to women and children of attacked countries. Suddenly the stigma of society has broken down and what we call humanity is null and void.

As for the latter, it's truly what separates human from animals. When a elephant dies in a herd, the momma will leave its baby if it cannot be saved from the predators. There is no sense of distress from any of the other elephants and probably not even from the mother. Though empathy is the product of a false reality, it is a good illusion.

((Note: I'm just condoning incest or anything like that :lol: ))

[Kreegah!!!]

Elephant was a bad example--they mourn their dead. That's why some villages recently are being ravaged by herds of them--sweet revenge.

[Bacon]

Yes elephant was a bad example. =3

[AgentShayd]

Yes we may be animals, but dosent meen we act like them. Seeing he is asking if we are like animals or vis vera (belive i said that right), not if we are animals. but in my opinion we are savages like animals seeing their will never really be peace, but just like humans animals will care for others. Like ther was on the new one day a KO 6 year old in a cage full of Gorillas and some wanted to see what she was or attack were as one treated her like a mother and rockted like a baby. She ever laid her on the ground and then backed up for the gaurds to get her. So that gorilla protecting the kid tells me they do have feelings of others and all.
Animals are not savage. Humans comprehend animals to be savage because we humanize animals. The fact is, they are animals do what they do to survive. We as humans find it barbaric if a male lion kills cubs that have a different father just so he can bring the lioness back into heat to breed with. That is humanizing them, a male lion does this to be able to ensure that HIS genetics will pass on to the next generation. That is simply survival. Animals kill other animals to survive either for food, or defending themselves. Most humans kill other humans not for food, some for defending themselves, and a good portion because they are murderers. This brings up the question of war. War is war, people die in war either for defense or offense. This is not much different than animals. I personally believe that humans are far worse than any animal out there. It is not animals wiping entire species out, it is us. It is not animals that justify shooting an unarmed teenager as self defense when the teenager was no threat, that is humans. It is not animals that blame ignorance, stupidity, hate, bad decisions, etc. on a God or Devil instead of on our own choices. No that is human kind. So you then tell me, who are true animals by the definition of animal that again HUMANS have deemed.

[Wooster]

People are more like animal as animals can never be like people. :geek:

[Danielle]

Animals are boss, people just get in the way and make messes. We don't have the skills to be like animals.

[Shisko Shi]

Animals are not savage. Humans comprehend animals to be savage because we humanize animals. The fact is, they are animals do what they do to survive. We as humans find it barbaric if a male lion kills cubs that have a different father just so he can bring the lioness back into heat to breed with. That is humanizing them, a male lion does this to be able to ensure that HIS genetics will pass on to the next generation. That is simply survival. Animals kill other animals to survive either for food, or defending themselves. Most humans kill other humans not for food, some for defending themselves, and a good portion because they are murderers. This brings up the question of war. War is war, people die in war either for defense or offense. This is not much different than animals. I personally believe that humans are far worse than any animal out there. It is not animals wiping entire species out, it is us. It is not animals that justify shooting an unarmed teenager as self defense when the teenager was no threat, that is humans. It is not animals that blame ignorance, stupidity, hate, bad decisions, etc. on a God or Devil instead of on our own choices. No that is human kind. So you then tell me, who are true animals by the definition of animal that again HUMANS have deemed.

I had also said we are like that not saying it is bad it is savige like but it is ok not bad sometime we do thing we dont like to survive, unless you are in America.

[Arum]

Well technically, humans ARE animals. We all are part of the same Kingdom Animalia sooo...XD

But, I get what you're meaning. ;)

It is a fact that most animals lack the capacity to think in the same way that humans do. Animals act mostly on instinct and what they were "programmed" to do once born. Although there have been studies of animals who do have the capacity to have "human like feelings", shown in dogs, elephants, primates, and other animals.

On the other hand, humans also have the capacity to bring about a more "animal instinct" in them, meaning behaviors that lean towards a more primitive time in human history. This can be seen mostly in fighting, or "predatory instincts".

So I guess my answer would be both. :)
(great topic, by the way!)

[Larry01239]

people are more like crab people

[Black King]

Humans are just animals that are smart enough to pamper themselves. How can animals take after humans if they were here first? Humans learn through observation and repetition on top of having natural instincts.

[TheIndigoFang]

Humans are classified as animals. :ugeek:

[Shisko Shi]

well mabey 1000's of year apes may be they are smarter then Humans with numbers and mathmatic for their kind and we share i think 90%? is it they are pretty close to use minus the wars and such.

[Jutsu Junkie]

It depends on which "other" animals we mean. Dolphins, for instance, are suspected of being capable of doing nonlinear math in their heads. (http://www.cawater-info.net/all_about_water/en/?p=1797) Lower primates use tools and have cultures. Octopuses can manipulate their environment in sophisticated ways that can put the human hand to shame at times. What generally sets us apart isn't even sentience (that we know ourselves as separate from the world and have an inner life), but that we can produce models of the world inside our heads (simulations) in order to analyse our actions -- and therefore exceed our limitations. No other animals do this. Tool use, so often cited as our chief capability, is only a symptom of our drive to overcome obstacles. To the extent that other animals do this, they cannot improve upon their achievements; they cannot continue to overcome ever greater obstacles and limitations beyond the state within which we have found them.