This bugs the hell out of me

[zerosameri]

Stupid Madara's time line

1)
> Shows being in the Uchiha clan: About 14-16
> ANBU: Age 17- maybe eary 20's
> Shown with Izuna in the Clans 'spot': About 17-18
> Izuna's death: Age: maybe 18 or 19
<Time skip (nothing really important around this time>

2)
> Shown finding the Village with the 1st: Age around mid or late 30's
> Madara is starting up the clan
> Village is building up
> Anbu and the police force comes in
> the 1st is getting worried about the Uchiha's power so they place them in a /corner/
> Madara is about and Anbu around this time
> Fights the 1st to be Hokage
> loses and then leaves
> Is called in to help Itachi kill the clan
> Goes to get the Kyuubi


But the whole point is he is shown in the clan and what not before it is founded. The whole point is he is shown in the clan (Fully developed finished clan ect) at a very young age. But the Leaf is not founded until he is in his mid or late 30's!

[TatsumiTora]

Madara's timeline is not the only one that's fishy, a lot of the characters have iffy timelines. Sometimes, the time line doesn't make any sense at all. XD LOL

[Squall]

Maybe we're not meant to look that far into it?

Like, when a cartoon character eg; Bugs Bunny falls in some water than gets out. He is wet for a second, but moments after he isn't anymore. We're meant to let those things go.

Only thing I can think of mate...

[Kyūbi no Yōko]

Madara's timeline is really bad in a kind of way. Btw zero, we ain't sure if Madara = Tobi so remove those last 2 lines (points).
---

It is interesting how Madara could've lived so long.

Founding Konoha - 30-35
Few years passing by - 40-43
Fighting Hashirama - 44-47
Time skip ...
--

At Part 1, when Naruto was 12 and Hiruzen was 68-69, Orochimaru was 50-51 years old.
Hashirama was same age as Madara (about the same).
Tobirama was few years younger than Hashirama (3-4 years).
Tobirama died at 40-50 of age?
When Tobirama was 40-50, Hiruzen was 16-19 and that's when he was appointed as Hokage.

I believe Orochimaru experimented on Madara. The face on Maddy's chest is an experiment by Oro (as stated by Kabuto).
So now .. When Hiruzen was just 16-19 he was appointed Hokage, and after 50 years (when Oro was at his prime kind of, when he probably did the experiment) -- MADARA STILL LIVED; because that's when Oro did the experiments, so at the time of Part 1, when Oro did the experiment, and when Hiruzen died Madara would've been about 100 years old.

Let me explain it again :

Tobirama 5 yrs younger than Hashirama.
Hashirama about same age as Madara.
Tobirama is 40-50 at the age of death.
Hiruzen is 16-19 when Tobirama dies.
Orochimaru at his prime, when he did most experiments, at Part 1 was 50-51 years old.
At the same time, Hiruzen was 68-69.

If Orochimaru did the experiments on Madara after 50 years of Hiruzen being appointed Hokage, after 50 years of Tobirama's death, then Madara would be about 100 years old.

Tobirama (40-50) + 50 years = 90-100.
Hashirama = Madara (with age).
Hashirama / Madara older than Tobirama 5 years.
Hashirama / Madara + 50 years + 5 years = 95-100.

[K3nsh!n]

Madara's timeline is really bad in a kind of way. Btw zero, we ain't sure if Madara = Tobi so remove those last 2 lines (points).
---

It is interesting how Madara could've lived so long.

Founding Konoha - 30-35
Few years passing by - 40-43
Fighting Hashirama - 44-47
Time skip ...
--

At Part 1, when Naruto was 12 and Hiruzen was 68-69, Orochimaru was 50-51 years old.
Hashirama was same age as Madara (about the same).
Tobirama was few years younger than Hashirama (3-4 years).
Tobirama died at 40-50 of age?
When Tobirama was 40-50, Hiruzen was 16-19 and that's when he was appointed as Hokage.

I believe Orochimaru experimented on Madara. The face on Maddy's chest is an experiment by Oro (as stated by Kabuto).
So now .. When Hiruzen was just 16-19 he was appointed Hokage, and after 50 years (when Oro was at his prime kind of, when he probably did the experiment) -- MADARA STILL LIVED; because that's when Oro did the experiments, so at the time of Part 1, when Oro did the experiment, and when Hiruzen died Madara would've been about 100 years old.

Let me explain it again :

Tobirama 5 yrs younger than Hashirama.
Hashirama about same age as Madara.
Tobirama is 40-50 at the age of death.
Hiruzen is 16-19 when Tobirama dies.
Orochimaru at his prime, when he did most experiments, at Part 1 was 50-51 years old.
At the same time, Hiruzen was 68-69.

If Orochimaru did the experiments on Madara after 50 years of Hiruzen being appointed Hokage, after 50 years of Tobirama's death, then Madara would be about 100 years old.

Tobirama (40-50) + 50 years = 90-100.
Hashirama = Madara (with age).
Hashirama / Madara older than Tobirama 5 years.
Hashirama / Madara + 50 years + 5 years = 95-100.

I am confused...I always thought Minato was the youngest Hokage ever.
And he became Hokage when he was 25-30...`:|

[Kyūbi no Yōko]

No it wasn't Minato.
And ages aren't all correct, mostly assumptions, but Hiruzen was really young, yes about 17-19.

[K3nsh!n]

No it wasn't Minato.
And ages aren't all correct, mostly assumptions, but Hiruzen was really young, yes about 17-19.

chapter 450 pg 14
When Tsunade was in coma, Shikaku nominated Kakashi as Hokage.
When one of the elders questioned Kakashi's age-saying he was too young the other replied that Minato was even younger. They didn't mention Hiruzen regarding his age but rather Minato. The elders wouldn't have questioned Kakashi's age(about 30) if Hiruzen was only 19 when he was appointed the Hokage!

EDIT:
This means Hiruzen had to be at least 30 years of age when he became Hokage.

[kalmeast]

ANBU, police force during hashi's time? :shock: research man research!:D

[tsuki]

EDIT:
This means Hiruzen had to be at least 30 years of age when he became Hokage.
No way, he looked way younger during the flashback when the 2nd passed on the title of Hokage.

[JashinSama]

The timeskip is the many years that the Uchiha and the Senju fought for the other villages as mercenaries.

[K3nsh!n]

No way, he looked way younger during the flashback when the 2nd passed on the title of Hokage.

Looks can be deceiving!! :D
Either that or a plot-hole.

[Kyūbi no Yōko]

ANBU, police force during hashi's time? :shock: research man research!:D

During his last years? Yes maybe.
Or Hashirama died before Hiruzen became Hokage.

[zerosameri]

ANBU, police force during hashi's time? :shock: research man research!:D I did this 2 in the morning so some things are bound to be incorrect. But I did skip a crap load of things so yes, it is more or less correct,

Madara's timeline is really bad in a kind of way. Btw zero, we ain't sure if Madara = Tobi so remove those last 2 lines (points).
---

It is interesting how Madara could've lived so long.

Founding Konoha - 30-35
Few years passing by - 40-43
Fighting Hashirama - 44-47
Time skip ...
--

At Part 1, when Naruto was 12 and Hiruzen was 68-69, Orochimaru was 50-51 years old.
Hashirama was same age as Madara (about the same).
Tobirama was few years younger than Hashirama (3-4 years).
Tobirama died at 40-50 of age?
When Tobirama was 40-50, Hiruzen was 16-19 and that's when he was appointed as Hokage.

I believe Orochimaru experimented on Madara. The face on Maddy's chest is an experiment by Oro (as stated by Kabuto).
So now .. When Hiruzen was just 16-19 he was appointed Hokage, and after 50 years (when Oro was at his prime kind of, when he probably did the experiment) -- MADARA STILL LIVED; because that's when Oro did the experiments, so at the time of Part 1, when Oro did the experiment, and when Hiruzen died Madara would've been about 100 years old.

Let me explain it again :

Tobirama 5 yrs younger than Hashirama.
Hashirama about same age as Madara.
Tobirama is 40-50 at the age of death.
Hiruzen is 16-19 when Tobirama dies.
Orochimaru at his prime, when he did most experiments, at Part 1 was 50-51 years old.
At the same time, Hiruzen was 68-69.

If Orochimaru did the experiments on Madara after 50 years of Hiruzen being appointed Hokage, after 50 years of Tobirama's death, then Madara would be about 100 years old.

Tobirama (40-50) + 50 years = 90-100.
Hashirama = Madara (with age).
Hashirama / Madara older than Tobirama 5 years.
Hashirama / Madara + 50 years + 5 years = 95-100.
The Itachi one is correct, Itachi confirmed it with Danzou(?). I am also pretty damn sure that it was Madara him self, then again I could be wrong like you said.

I'll get back to you in a few after I finish my Math Homework and Spanish :lol:

[Kyūbi no Yōko]

Okay. I didn't do many calculations myself too, they were all on what I remembered.
So there are a lot of "holes".

[Sasuke]

Also this question: How is Naruto the same age as everyone in the Academy if he failed it 3 years in a row. Wouldn't that mean that everyone else in the Academy would of had to fail it 3 years in a row as well?

[e710]

I think he joined the academy before everyone. But in a flashback they were all in it together. Maybe Naruto tried to pass on 2 other occasions with special permission or something and failed.

[Kyūbi no Yōko]

Failing in academy doesn't stop you from aging
He entered the Academy, same age as others, failed on the final exams while everyone passed, 2 other failed opportunities and finally he became Genin.

[K3nsh!n]

Failing in academy doesn't stop you from aging
He entered the Academy, same age as others, failed on the final exams while everyone passed, 2 other failed opportunities and finally he became Genin.

Can you confirm it?

Naruto enters academy at an age of 8 or 9, fails 3x in row-now aged 11...
Sasuke, Sakura and rest others join academy at 11-it's their 1st attempt while it's Naruto's 4th attempt...
Naruto and everyone else graduate from the academy together as Genin at an age of 12...

[Kyūbi no Yōko]

Naruto entered the same age as everyone.
Fails at trying when everyone did.
Tries 2 personal tries, secretly kind of.

Helps Iruka at fighting Mizuki and then graduates.