BG Convo 38: Can you hear me now?

[TheBlackChidori]

Good. Seems the servers are doing better.

So has anyone read WoT yet? >_<

[NBT]

So exactly why was the other one closed so early? And what the h*ll is WoT?

[e710]

No idea what that is. <--Just thought I post that i'm bored.:)

[TheBlackChidori]

Wheel of Time. Best book series ever.

Because NBT, the other one was riddled with server errors and dead conversation!

[321zigzag3]

http://biancaevenstar.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/weyrworld.jpg

[megabbaut]

Hm, looks like you have deleted my forgotten thread. We were fully prepared too. Oh well.

[TheBlackChidori]

I didn't delete anything.

[NBT]

http://biancaevenstar.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/weyrworld.jpg

..............?

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

I find vs. based debating just an extension of "my dad can beat up your dad."
Therefore, it has an even longer pedigree. `:P

or "my god can beat yours"

dawn of human history right there



More seriously, isn't D&D really Gygak's attempt of a formalized multiverse debate of Tolkien vs. Burrough?

that's what I've always taken it to be


Konoha I can understand since they are mostly frequent and not everyone likes them.

But Akatsuki for what? Same reason?

if he means bad as in evil they're terrorists and either influenced by Konoha elites or formerly Konoha elites themselves

if he means bad as in terrible characters then


Good. Seems the servers are doing better.

So has anyone read WoT yet? >_<

not yet I need to finish Dune and some other stuff first

[NBT]

if he means bad as in terrible characters then
Deidara.That is all. One more thing. http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/Master135/jeri-troll.jpg

[megabbaut]

I like how there is stuff all over the forum that is against the rules and no one is taking any action as mods

I have read WoT and there are much better novels but I suppose we all have our own opinions

[TheBlackChidori]

I like how there is stuff all over the forum that is against the rules and no one is taking any action as mods

I have read WoT and there are much better novels but I suppose we all have our own opinions

What injustices are you screaming of now? Been kinda difficult to mod when the forums been broken.

[321zigzag3]

..............?

Dragonriders of Pern.

or "my god can beat yours"

dawn of human history right there


This is very true yet not all people realize it or have forgotten about such.

if he means bad as in evil they're terrorists and either influenced by Konoha elites or formerly Konoha elites themselves

if he means bad as in terrible characters then


Its far more likely the latter considering most of konoha characters lack solid characterization.

But Akatsuki have always been a lot better characterized than most in the manga, its also likely in terms of dislike in preference.

Simply put "I don't like that character for this this and so so."




As for the recent debacle I wonder if VIZ's latest crusade in taking down sites had incured some wrath from others who don't want to follow them. Maybe thats why the servers having problems. :ugeek:

[NBT]

I like how there is stuff all over the forum that is against the rules and no one is taking any action as mods Shut the h*ll up about the mod abuse.Even if they are abusing their power,as long as it ain't hurtin you why should you care? Simply put &quot;I don't like that character for this this and so so.Fine I don't like them.Happy now?Besides, I only said they had bad characters;never said they were all bad,though they do suck not including Kisame or Konan.Only one I really consider bad is deidara because he throws temperature tantrums whenever someone doesn't worship his fail excuse for art.

[megabbaut]

What injustices are you screaming of now? Been kinda difficult to mod when the forums been broken.
Oh, just the annoying internal server errors and the many illegal images that I have been seeing around the place.

Good luck working on it.

Shut the h*ll up about the mod abuse.Even if they are abusing their power,as long as it ain't hurtin you why should you care?
You have NO idea what you're talking about.

Whoa, I never said anything about mod abuse. Please calm down.

[NBT]

Oh, just the annoying internal server errors and the many illegal images that I have been seeing around the place.

Good luck working on it.


You have NO idea what you're talking about.

Whoa, I never said anything about mod abuse. Please calm down.

Well you said something about them not doing their jobs or something like that.Still,if it ain't hurtin you,don't worry about it. How in the blue h*ll has this not been posted yet? OPwPo-IAQ-E

[321zigzag3]

Anyone heard of this site?

http://www.statueforum.com/index.php?

Immortal Watchdog might know of it.

[Shikamaru Nara]

I personally have no idea why you all like literature so much. Perhaps it's because the majority of you are older and are more mature but I just dislike reading. Why is it so interesting to you all?

@Mega: I don't mod much cuz I only visit here maybe twice daily for thirty minutes. I might lock a thread from time to time but I'm content just reading the forum content. Most stuff in here doesn't need to be modded anyway. Most of the trolls are gone.

@Ziggy: I've seen it once or twice. Why do you ask?

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

I personally have no idea why you all like literature so much. Perhaps it's because the majority of you are older and are more mature but I just dislike reading. Why is it so interesting to you all?

because it's an important mental exercise and it exposes you to a wide variety of good quality literature and fantastic stories that expands your mind and forces you to use critical thinking

and because..even grown ups get to use their imagination and put themselves in that world

reading is important shikamaru how many morons who got themselves banned defending Twilight would have simply avoided that had they read Brahm Stokers Dracula


@Mega: I don't mod much cuz I only visit here maybe twice daily for thirty minutes. I might lock a thread from time to time but I'm content just reading the forum content. Most stuff in here doesn't need to be modded anyway. Most of the trolls are gone.


for now

[NBT]

I enjoy reading when I find something worth reading.Don't really care enough to look,though.Maybe if there a library close me,I'd read more.

[Cult of Personality]

I personally have no idea why you all like literature so much. Perhaps it's because the majority of you are older and are more mature but I just dislike reading. Why is it so interesting to you all?

You're on my list. `!:)

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

aaannnnnd the MF moderators show once again how incredibly stupid and petty they are

"troll" and "wanker" and "rape" are now bannable offenses...Author statements and data books and lolgenjutsu and lawl riatsu crush are now enforceable policies

and apparently..calling bad characters bad is a bannable offense

WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

[321zigzag3]

In the end of the day to be blunt about it nicely put. Troll and wanker and rape are more relative usage in terms. People are going to use it whether you like it or not.

You can either ban it or live with it and work your way around it and combat it differently.

So what is the MF arena's community overall response?

@shikamaru
No reason just curious.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Their over all response? Open rebellion people are coming out of the wood works to point out how stupid these rules are

newbs are saying the hostile atmosphere is directly the reason why they're good debaters in the first place directly challenging the assertions of the mods that the climate creates bad posters

[NBT]

MF? magna fix?

[321zigzag3]

Their over all response? Open rebellion people are coming out of the wood works to point out how stupid these rules are

newbs are saying the hostile atmosphere is directly the reason why they're good debaters in the first place directly challenging the assertions of the mods that the climate creates bad posters

Its not surprising. I just read them and while its good to have such nice rules for example in terms of character its not really applicable in the sense. In essence it will actually make things worse for different reasons.

Its like prohibition, get what I mean?

An overall balanced environment of many things creates better knowledge and exposure to all things for people to get used to.

But we both know this.

VIZ mods has yet to attempt this kind of thing hardcore style.
Their method was to just to leave it be.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

MF? magna fix?

yup

their failrena

Its not surprising. I just read them and while its good to have such nice rules for example in terms of character its not really applicable in the sense. In essence it will actually make things worse for different reasons.

Its like prohibition, get what I mean?

I agree with you they don't know what they've done though

An overall balanced environment of many things creates better knowledge and exposure to all things for people to get used to.

and in an ideal world such a thing would be a utopia but


VIZ mods has yet to attempt this kind of thing hardcore style.
Their method was to just to leave it be.

we're trying something else now..letting debaters debate hopefully it works

[321zigzag3]

Is it just me or these past monts or especially starting 2012.

Few forums into debating fictions been getting the slam.
OBD.
Spacebattles calamity.
Manga Stream forums deleted entirely few weeks ago.
Even Colorles had mentioned MVC vs forum riot.

Now arena.
Animevice things seem pretty quiet and usual.

Factpile's inner community has been following a bit on Spacebattles and OBD.

[NBT]

What happened to OBD?

[the endless]

If this nonsense continues at MF I would probably post here more

[321zigzag3]

What happened to OBD?

Well it was already discussed here a month ago.
But there are several parts of it.

Initially it all started I think when a Super Moderator named Naruto wanted to make OBD a "nicer" place.
If this nonsense continues at MF I would probably post here more

The endless.

As in Endless Mike?

[the endless]

The endless.

As in Endless Mike?

lol no, I'm not EM

[321zigzag3]

Not surprising. He has no reason to be here.

Is this your main forum name?

[NBT]

Well it was already discussed here a month ago.
But there are several parts of it.

Initially it all started I think when a Super Moderator named Naruto wanted to make OBD a &quot;nicer&quot; place.


The endless.

As in Endless Mike? I see so many things wrong with that.

[the endless]

Not surprising. He has no reason to be here.

Is this your main forum name?

yeah it is

I mainly post at MF but those new rules are just retarded

[321zigzag3]

I see so many things wrong with that.

Make of what you will.

yeah it is

I mainly post at MF but those new rules are just retarded

Ah.

I have like less than 10 posts at MF.

Wolven posted them I see, in response to what?
Constant complaints?

[the endless]

Ah.

I have like less than 10 posts at MF.

Wolven posted them I see, in response to what?
Constant complaints?

it's probably because many posters from other sections complained about arena regs being mean or something like that

But allowing reiatsu crush and invisibility for Bleach characters is just an awful idea

[321zigzag3]

Aizen reiatsu crushes Galactus.

Aizen being invisible to herald level cosmics or above barring Hulk and some in Marvel earth even being generous to the invisible argument for Bleach.


Bah.

[the endless]

soon enough Bleach will become the strongest verse at MF since they will just reiatsu crush evryone

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Is it just me or these past monts or especially starting 2012.

this happens periodically every four years.Rumbles even had a massive civil war between mods and mods and senior members that required half it's staff to be demodded and then the entire site move to a new forum

it involved a Mod who had a crippling heroine addiction and was a homophobe who mocked another poster for his gay brother dying of aids.. then was surprised when that person later said "I'd rather you starve" when he begged for donations from members to keep him from being evicted from his apartment post..getting over said addiction- then the mod and his cohorts perm banned said guy for threatening said addict mods life

and the massive..back lash that lasted three years that followed was ugly and I mean ugly

i mean to the extent that there was an attack on a mods house by rival mods and then retaliation by his FBI buddy and fellow mod..that involved shaking him down in front of his kids

it..got..effing ugly
Few forums into debating fictions been getting the slam.
OBD.
Spacebattles calamity.\


OBD will recover Spacebattles had had one foot in the grave for ten solid years they'll just keep limping along

E]
Manga Stream forums deleted entirely few weeks ago.


lol wow

[Even Colorles had mentioned MVC vs forum riot.

another one?

Now arena.

yup

Animevice things seem pretty quiet and usual.

AV and CV has too much stupidity that no one wants to touch them even the MVC guys they stumble along by virtue of their sheer idiocy



Factpile's inner community has been following a bit on Spacebattles and OBD.

Factpile has been following SB and CBR in that they started a forum war with SDN one where RL got involved and alleged attacks on peoples houses happened

What happened to OBD?

remember the pedophile tolerance discussion we had awhile back? About how it was hypocrisy at it;s finest and all that?


If this nonsense continues at MF I would probably post here more

any exile is welcome here


I see so many things wrong with that.

the same people who advocated that are advocating harassing people in real life..and allowing possible potential rapists to run free

[NBT]

Timmy Turner-I wish Bleachverse was a cookie! That is all.

[321zigzag3]

lol wow


A much lighter version of CBR's event. A twitter feud and one mod apparently some how permanently deleted all of manga stream forums including its own arena. Beyond recovery.

http://freetexthost.com/ia0zefozio

Apparently the remnant set up another but I forget its name.

Timmy Turner-I wish Bleachverse was a cookie! That is all.

Aizen reiatsu crushes him and his too with Hougakyo.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

What a mess..I mean wow

that happened to MFG once before the final fall but instead of a deletion every single thread was merged together

[321zigzag3]

Yep, the viewers were quite blessed on their part that the main site wasn't down.

Merging everything together into single thread? Why do that in the first place? Sounds pointless.

[megabbaut]

At least it helped settle the differences between problem users.

[colorles]

lol manga fox 'manga boys vs real life boys'

`:|

lol cant help but point out the naivety of this post

"Hm... Manga boys forever!!! The reason why I chose them: They're not boring, they're cute and handsome (well, some of them are), and most of all, they are. AWESOME!! For real life boys, I think asian boys (chinese, japanese, and korean) are pretty cute too. I think some of them even have one of those manga boys looks... Just saying."

maybe they're 'not boring' because their entire lives are being presented to you in depth with the intentions of the reader being able to 'feel' with them?

this seems some of the appeal of manga (or pretty much any sort of fiction); the reader gets to experience the life of another. isnt 'escapism' the appeal of fiction?

[TheBlackChidori]

As for the recent debacle I wonder if VIZ's latest crusade in taking down sites had incured some wrath from others who don't want to follow them. Maybe thats why the servers having problems.

Nah. Unfortunately it's not that simple. Has nothing to do with the forum itself. Completely out of our hands, it's on Viz Tech Support's list to fix. Basically the server is like a glass wall, and it's slowly been chipped at for the last year. Something recently finally caused it to crash, but it's been getting worse over time. Like the 7pm forum shutdown, or the 4000 guests wandering the forum.

I assure you, we weren't punished by h4x0r5 :lol:

[NBT]

colorles-The h*ll are you talkin about?

[colorles]

colorles-The h*ll are you talkin about?

a lulzy thread that was locked at manga fox and felt like 'pointing out' the naivety of this post

the phrase "they're not boring",,the naivety of said phrase is so humanly understandable

[TheBlackChidori]

New movies coming out

http://www.movieinsider.com/movies/-/2012/

[NBT]

http://www.movieinsider.com/m6/finding-nemo/ ...............?

[colorles]

why is one piece fanboyism so synonymous with 'OBD logic'?

ps go to next page for some shoddragon action

pretty duh duh daa thread anyways although wolfenstein holding it down as usual

[waterluffyG2]

why is one piece fanboyism so synonymous with 'OBD logic'?

ps go to next page for some shoddragon action

pretty duh duh daa thread anyways although wolfenstein holding it down as usual


It may be something to do with the fact that the biggest OPtard over there, violentrl, originally came from the OBD (he was then repetitivly mocked then sectionbanned from OBD, but they presumably don't know that.)
because it's an important mental exercise and it exposes you to a wide variety of good quality literature and fantastic stories that expands your mind and forces you to use critical thinking

and because..even grown ups get to use their imagination and put themselves in that world

reading is important shikamaru how many morons who got themselves banned defending Twilight would have simply avoided that had they read Brahm Stokers DraculaBut if they hadn't read twilight to start with they, wouldn't have even got into such a situation, so that isn't really much of an argument. Reading is awesome, though. It sucks you right into another world, and there is a lot more novel authors that comic authors, which means there are loads of really good series and clever authors. And with books, it gives you the freedom to use your imagination and decide yourself what charcters and scenes look like. It also often gives a more in-depth expeirice into the characters heads than comics, as it includes thoughts, feelings, and character perspective which aren't possible with pictures.
aaannnnnd the MF moderators show once again how incredibly stupid and petty they are

"troll" and "wanker" and "rape" are now bannable offenses...Author statements and data books and lolgenjutsu and lawl riatsu crush are now enforceable policies

and apparently..calling bad characters bad is a bannable offense

WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAThat makes me facepalm. What exactly is wrong with calling a series bad? I've seen simerlar superstrict approachs on other forums, such as physicsforums. I'll quote you warnings I've recieved from there if you like. They are pretty trivial. On the other hand, they are hard on trolls too, so if there is anyone there to call a troll or fanboy, they will probably be banned within a few minutes anyway, so they aren't really worth debating over. Does MF have a simerlar approach?

[Shikamaru Nara]

because it's an important mental exercise and it exposes you to a wide variety of good quality literature and fantastic stories that expands your mind and forces you to use critical thinking

and because..even grown ups get to use their imagination and put themselves in that world

reading is important shikamaru how many morons who got themselves banned defending Twilight would have simply avoided that had they read Brahm Stokers Dracula



for now
Well I suppose if it's because it's a mental exercise, it's less appealing to me since I go to school and I have no reason to want any intellectual advances. Although I suppose it's the most important to seek mental exercises when you're taking classes.

When I think about reading, I think about deductions and whatnot. If you're looking to use your imagination, the first thing that comes to my mind is to write something. It's what I do when someone tells me to use my imagination. However, if I could draw that may be what I would do haha. Art is not my forte. :lol:

You can't wank something or defend something if you know nothing about it. `:P Most of the time it's not even that person's fault. Monkey see monkey do. If you have a forum that thinks Goku > Superman, eventually that person is prone to believe the idiocy they're sputtering. Colorles is a great example. (Not a jab, just an example, colorles.) She basically worships the ground that those MvC people stand on and support whatever they say undisputed.

Yeah for now lol.
You're on my list. `!:)

You're on mine. >_>

aaannnnnd the MF moderators show once again how incredibly stupid and petty they are

"troll" and "wanker" and "rape" are now bannable offenses...Author statements and data books and lolgenjutsu and lawl riatsu crush are now enforceable policies

and apparently..calling bad characters bad is a bannable offense

WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Stupid is an overused term, IWD. Stupid is defined by your opinion. I kinda used to use that word but realized how stupid silly it was. Think about that. They think it's a legit rule, but you think it's stupid. It basically boils down to opinion. Who's opinion is better? Yours or theirs? No answer. Just saying.

It's actually considered trolling here to use rape in the wrong way or calling people wankers or trolls is also considered trolling. Most things are foul play but nobody really cares lol.

Yeah, that rule is stupid. Disregard everything I just said.

/thread

In the end of the day to be blunt about it nicely put. Troll and wanker and rape are more relative usage in terms. People are going to use it whether you like it or not.

You can either ban it or live with it and work your way around it and combat it differently.

So what is the MF arena's community overall response?

@shikamaru
No reason just curious.

As always. :geek:

[TU lol]

hi u guys

[NBT]

.........?

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Well I suppose if it's because it's a mental exercise, it's less appealing to me since I go to school and I have no reason to want any intellectual advances. .

..W-what?

When I think about reading, I think about deductions and whatnot. If you're looking to use your imagination, the first thing that comes to my mind is to write something. It's what I do when someone tells me to use my imagination. However, if I could draw that may be what I would do haha. Art is not my forte. :lol:

well you kinda need to be well read to be a great writer

[QUOTE=Shikamaru Nara;5914765]

[COLOR="lime"]Stupid is an overused term, IWD. Stupid is defined by your opinion. I kinda used to use that word but realized how stupid silly it was. Think about that. They think it's a legit rule, but you think it's stupid. It basically boils down to opinion. Who's opinion is better? Yours or theirs? No answer. Just saying.

It's actually considered trolling here to use rape in the wrong way or calling people wankers or trolls is also considered trolling. Most things are foul play but nobody really cares lol.

Yeah, that rule is stupid. Disregard everything I just said.

/thread

to be fair Shika my view on the matter is shaped by experience..any time stuff like that is implemented it ends up breeding a den of retards

[Super Sanin 3]

aaannnnnd the MF moderators show once again how incredibly stupid and petty they are

"troll" and "wanker" and "rape" are now bannable offenses...Author statements and data books and lolgenjutsu and lawl riatsu crush are now enforceable policies

and apparently..calling bad characters bad is a bannable offense

WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Sort of afraid to say "hi" now, seems the rules just went one step further :lol:

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Sort of afraid to say "hi" now, seems the rules just went one step further :lol:

I wouldn't even waste my time going over there honestly

[Super Sanin 3]

No I meant this:
hi u guys

I mean that was his only post >.> don't see anything offensive

The only thing I see going for him is being a dupe... but I didn't even know there was a rule forbidding them?

[Wooster]

Wheel of Time. Best book series ever.

Because NBT, the other one was riddled with server errors and dead conversation!
No, just no. It is one of the worst series of books. :ugeek:

[Nightmare Luffy]

Someones got to not be afraid to break the rules SS3!

Gulp

hi u guys
ducks under ban wall/

:p

[321zigzag3]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Sword_of_shannara_hardcover.jpg/200px-Sword_of_shannara_hardcover.jpg

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

I assure you, we weren't punished by h4x0r5 :lol:

what is happening?

excellent wheel of time updates.

I'm gonna try and lure all the arena regs here some of them are surprisingly well read for such a forum and you might actually have more then one person to talk about wheel of time with



That makes me facepalm. What exactly is wrong with calling a series bad? I've seen simerlar superstrict approachs on other forums, such as physicsforums. I'll quote you warnings I've recieved from there if you like. They are pretty trivial. On the other hand, they are hard on trolls too, so if there is anyone there to call a troll or fanboy, they will probably be banned within a few minutes anyway, so they aren't really worth debating over. Does MF have a simerlar approach?

naww they aren't hard on trolls there at all the opposite actually they encourage fanboys

Merging everything together into single thread? Why do that in the first place? Sounds pointless.

it was, it was basically a pointless act of petty vandalism certain..elite trolls may or may not have been directly involved- who were operarting at S mods at the time

basically as a threat to the forum leader Ace "play ball with us or your site goes down" serious business the philosophical differences in vs debating eh?

No I meant this:


I mean that was his only post >.> don't see anything offensive

The only thing I see going for him is being a dupe... but I didn't even know there was a rule forbidding them?

dupe or sign up troll likely don't worry your not gonna get the same treatment you don't deserve it

[waterluffyG2]

No I meant this:


I mean that was his only post >.> don't see anything offensive

The only thing I see going for him is being a dupe... but I didn't even know there was a rule forbidding them?
It is entirely possible he had a massive portfolio of troll posts, but the staff deleted them all. So don't worry about it.

[colorles]

'TU' so that was Trueborn Uchiha? sooooo, wai 'TU' ban?

[TheBlackChidori]

TU = Phoenix Wright - Pretty much the reason the lockdown happened in the first place. I gave everyone another chance after that, every member from Heroeking to Dudemeister to Shika, but not TU. He is a full-time troll in every sense and will be banned immediately on any account by every staff member here.

[Wooster]

TU is a cancerous, pustulous rot on the forum. No reason to have him around, good job TBC. :mrgreen:

[NBT]

Since when has TU been a troll?

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

TU = Phoenix Wright - Pretty much the reason the lockdown happened in the first place. I gave everyone another chance after that, every member from Heroeking to Dudemeister to Shika, but not TU. He is a full-time troll in every sense and will be banned immediately on any account by every staff member here.

ehhh?? I was more vocally hostile towards you and Ashen and Toma then he was

or did I miss an epic meltdown during one of my extended hiatuses last year where he went all petulant and rantastic and acted like a complete douche?

Since when has TU been a troll?

that's what I wanna know..I recall a time a year or two ago when people considered him a better debater then me..for some reason

my mind was blown then..but it's less blown now but still blown

ans for people who wonder why I'm such a fanatic in regards to fighting against 09-10's era of raw wank and biased? Why I wont permit a return to the days of fanboyism

it's because of threads like these right here Naruto vs the big three of the west (http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38768) aaannndd here (http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33784)

I'm considering making a thread called "the History of Viz" so we can chronicle our sites history..

[megabbaut]

TU = Phoenix Wright - Pretty much the reason the lockdown happened in the first place. I gave everyone another chance after that, every member from Heroeking to Dudemeister to Shika, but not TU. He is a full-time troll in every sense and will be banned immediately on any account by every staff member here.
Well he wasn't being particularly a bad troll and IMO flaming deserves more of a ban/infraction than supposed trolling. Mainly why the lockdown happened was because a lot of people were being immature and not following the zero tolerance thread when it was still around. Bracket Shikamaru received way too many chances and not a single one of them has he made any use of.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Well he wasn't being particularly a bad troll and IMO flaming deserves more of a ban/infraction than supposed trolling. Mainly why the lockdown happened was because a lot of people were being immature and not following the zero tolerance thread when it was still around. Bracket Shikamaru received way too many chances and not a single one of them has he made any use of.

flaming is very relative

I wont infract someone for calling a spade a spade now adays and there's even a sorta rule against reporting because your blustered someone wont put up with your antics

I have absolutely no idea what Wright did though if he pulled a Bracket Shikamaru though he deserves to not exist on this forum

[NBT]

As far as I remember,he never did anything and I was here all last year.

[megabbaut]

Last time I checked you were banned.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

NBT was banned? For what? he's a convo man..the last time I say him post I was still a reg

[NBT]

NBT was banned? For what? he's a convo man..the last time I say him post I was still a reg

Back in December for calling someone who asked a stupid question stupid and/or slow.

[colorles]

reading through the new MF arena 'rules',,they really dont seem 'that bad', and more 'open minded' then previously. granted some of the illumination provided to MF via 'dis kid' colorles perhaps could be 'useful', especially towards the latter portion of these 'rules', but overall they dont seem 'that bad'

although 'rules' are just that ('mental constraints', although to beings that abide so docilely to 'mental constraints', perhaps these 'new rules' may lead to 'no rules'. i geus some beings really do like going 'step by step',,heh,heheh i gues thats the 'format' of 'rules', as the beings that so mentally docilely abide by them can only withstand 'step by step' hence the human phrase 'take things a step at a time',,heh)

[colorles]

starting to feel like manga fox around here haha

lol and i said i was gonna 'invite posters' here, and havnt bothered yet b:|


and TU 'pheonix wright' seemed 'kool',,by the way has 'Miles Edgeworth' been active any time recently? he used to 'hold it down' over here;)

[megabbaut]

What I hate about some sites (like youtube) is that they ban awesome people, but they let trolls who are mean roam free like Dudemeister who is trying to getting revenge on the forum for losing his status as a mod

[Nightmare Luffy]

Whered my post go? http://www.narutoforums.com/images/smilies/series2/headscratch.gif

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

lol and i said i was gonna 'invite posters' here, and havnt bothered yet b:|




are you making threats again? Enough is enough

What I hate about some sites (like youtube) is that they ban awesome people, but they let trolls who are mean roam free like Dudemeister who is trying to getting revenge on the forum for losing his status as a mod

that's completely not true at all

Who from a very reliable source is now here under the name abbreviated as CoP

stones in glass houses?

[Cult of Personality]

His "reliable source" is a known liar and I have refuted his accusations numerous times. Guy's delusional.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Think before you make wild accusations megabutt

[Shikamaru Nara]

colorles didn't threaten anybody.

[321zigzag3]

ehhh?? I was more vocally hostile towards you and Ashen and Toma then he was

or did I miss an epic meltdown during one of my extended hiatuses last year where he went all petulant and rantastic and acted like a complete douche?
..

I don't remember any of them, his so called "trolling" was rather just being bored screwing around in a sense but I didn't know it was considered very harmful.

TU = Phoenix Wright - Pretty much the reason the lockdown happened in the first place. I gave everyone another chance after that, every member from Heroeking to Dudemeister to Shika, but not TU. He is a full-time troll in every sense and will be banned immediately on any account by every staff member here.

TU disputes that he was treated unfairly I think when asked few months ago.

[e710]

So TU(phonex guy or whatever who used to be Rock Lee) left on a bad note? When I first came here he was basically top dog.

[NBT]

TU and rocklee are two different people.

[e710]

It was Rock Lee then a lot of numbers afterward. I'm pretty sure it was the same guy but I could be wrong.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

colorles didn't threaten anybody.

yes it did.. that you aren't aware enough of the culture to pick up the threat does not make it any less a threat

I don't remember any of them, his so called "trolling" was rather just being bored screwing around in a sense but I didn't know it was considered very harmful.
.

I see I was out for all this so I can't comment without shoving my foot in my mouth

It was Rock Lee then a lot of numbers afterward. I'm pretty sure it was the same guy but I could be wrong.

I remember rock lee vaguely

what was his problem?

[e710]

yes it did.. that you aren't aware enough of the culture to pick up the threat does not make it any less a threat



I see I was out for all this so I can't comment without shoving my foot in my mouth



I remember rock lee vaguely

what was his problem?

NVM I found the thread and I think he changed his name to Miles(if its the right person). He said the people who ran the fourm where abusing their powers or something.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

NVM I found the thread and I think he changed his name to Miles(if its the right person). He said the people who ran the fourm where abusing their powers or something.

oh miles yeah he was enraged at the staff.. which was funny because when he was taking it to the staff I was taking it to the really biased posters.. saying they were the problem

then we switched..and now I am the staff and can't criticize any more though I'm guessing now I'll be Satan to him? :lol:

[321zigzag3]

TU is a cancerous, pustulous rot on the forum. No reason to have him around, good job TBC. :mrgreen:

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

ehhh?? I was more vocally hostile towards you and Ashen and Toma then he was
..

Indeed. You are the #1. Then Bracket Shikamaru followed by Heroking.


reading through the new MF arena 'rules',,they really dont seem 'that bad', and more 'open minded' then previously. granted some of the illumination provided to MF via 'dis kid' colorles perhaps could be 'useful', especially towards the latter portion of these 'rules', but overall they dont seem 'that bad'

although 'rules' are just that ('mental constraints', although to beings that abide so docilely to 'mental constraints', perhaps these 'new rules' may lead to 'no rules'. i geus some beings really do like going 'step by step',,heh,heheh i gues thats the 'format' of 'rules', as the beings that so mentally docilely abide by them can only withstand 'step by step' hence the human phrase 'take things a step at a time',,heh)



MVC wouldn't like those rules either and you know that very well. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/tomato-1.gif

[Nightmare Luffy]

Well IDK why someone deleted my other post earlier so, enjoy the "NL Flaming Comedy" as located in my signature. :p

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Well IDK why someone deleted my other post earlier so, enjoy the "NL Flaming Comedy" as located in my signature. :p

ehh? no idea why your post was deleted but you're sig is amusing especially considering how you had a complete temper tantrum because I was totally for allowing people to point out stupidity.. and told you repeatedly that it would be the norm now

yet you seem to think magically that its unfair when applied to another poster

[megabbaut]

Wait...was IWD banned once? I vaguely remember that...or probably someone else

[colorles]

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png



Indeed. You are the #1. Then Bracket Shikamaru followed by Heroking.





MVC wouldn't like those rules either and you know that very well.

well perhaps a vs forum is 'best suited' without any rules; just let the posters debate like really;)

and it seems im 'missing out' on some viz-lingo with 'Bracket Shikamaru',,hmmmm

and NLs sig hmmmmm............theyaa gohttp://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/tomato-1.gif

[Uchiha Sora]

and it seems im 'missing out' on some viz-lingo with 'Bracket Shikamaru',,hmmmm

Back in the old days there was a guy by the name of "[Shikamaru]" Thats where the Bracket comes from.
Oh. He was banned.

He was my hero.... jk... heroking was my hero... or was it dudemeister...?

[Nightmare Luffy]

ehh? no idea why your post was deleted but you're sig is amusing especially considering how you had a complete temper tantrum because I was totally for allowing people to point out stupidity.. and told you repeatedly that it would be the norm now

yet you seem to think magically that its unfair when applied to another poster
It was deleted cause it looked like hypocrisy to me http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/tomato-1.gif

I dont remembe a 'temper tantrum' but yeah considering NBT got banned for calling someone stupid Wooster posting worse than that right there in the same thread made me lol

[megabbaut]

Why did you all ignore my post? It was such a simple question

Back when he was a reg he posted in a lot of my threads and was a pretty cool guy...But was he banned once?

[Uchiha Sora]

^cuz i dont know the answer.

[321zigzag3]

Why did you all ignore my post? It was such a simple question


IWD? I just logged on anyway.

well perhaps a vs forum is 'best suited' without any rules; just let the posters debate like really

Well it really depends on the individual of course. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/tomato-1.gif

Or you could go by the mass http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/tomato-1.gif.
Its much easier of course. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/tomato-1.gif

Although I like to see Wolven deal with MVC's reaction if he ever tries it there despite his good intentions.
and NLs sig hmmmmm............theyaa go


http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/tomato-1.gif

[e710]

Why did you all ignore my post? It was such a simple question

Back when he was a reg he posted in a lot of my threads and was a pretty cool guy...But was he banned once?

Probably not he seemed like a smart fellow.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Wait...was IWD banned once? I vaguely remember that...or probably someone else

I wasn't banned Ashen sealed me off from this section entirely.. for about twenty four hours

[NBT]

Why?......And who the h*ll is Ashen?.....And what kind of name is that anyway?

[Nightmare Luffy]

Be careful NBT, the last guy got banned for saying hi u guys http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/ofc5ra1.png :p

[NBT]

It was deleted cause it looked like hypocrisy to me http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/tomato-1.gif

considering NBT got banned for calling someone stupid and/or slow

Funny thing is I've done MUCH MUCH worse before and they still kept me around.Just look at my earlier posts as ECW,which you will all now address me as.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Be careful NBT, the last guy got banned for saying hi u guys http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/ofc5ra1.png :p

...I'm a mod here do you honestly think I'm going to ban any one for calling someone who's genuinely saying something stupid. stupid?

Why?......And who the h*ll is Ashen?.....And what kind of name is that anyway?

he's the guy who along with TBC are the big dogs of this section basically I said a bad joke about wooster being lazy at the wrong time and got sealed

guys not exactly a bad staffer he does the most work in regards to cleaning things up backstage I've seen of any other viz boss

[321zigzag3]

So how do you compare VIZ moderators to other forum moderators (such as NF, MF, etc etc) from your standpoint IWDude?

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

So how do you compare VIZ moderators to other forum moderators (such as NF, MF, etc etc) from your standpoint IWDude?

I still don't understand why the lockdown happened or why the dramatic shift in policy..but I am glad for the last bit..I'm not a fan of all my peers

but compared too say what the Rumbles staffers have done..what they've allowed on SB and MVC and the like there are worse evils out there

[Nightmare Luffy]

Funny thing is I've done MUCH MUCH worse before and they still kept me around.Just look at my earlier posts as ECW,which you will all now address me as.
Some people get banned for calling someone slow or saying hi, and some people can cuss other people out for hours straight without getting banned `:P

to quote 'ECW', interesting. :p
...I'm a mod here do you honestly think I'm going to ban any one for calling someone who's genuinely saying something stupid. stupid?
No but apparently it happened so it happened either way

Out if curiousity how come your opinion on its stupidity makes a difference to if youre going to ban them or not? :?:

[colorles]

you can say wateva you want, as long as you can more than back it up

[colorles]

at least in vs debating anyways

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

No but apparently it happened so it happened either way

before the seeming policy change so why even talk about it as if it's "interesting:



Out if curiousity how come your opinion on its stupidity makes a difference to if youre going to ban them or not? :?:

it's not my opinion it's context that forking matters man..we're using our judgment and trusting you people to do the same.

There is nothing wrong with calling a hunk of crap a hunk of crap

you can say wateva you want, as long as you can more than back it up

basically this and if you can't back it up be prepared to take a beating

oh and no it wouldn't be flaming if someone said a poster who believed for example the naruto universe could take marvel dc and image..

if said narufanboy called a guy defending the big three a moron he'd be guilty of flaming since he's both a fanboy and massively full of crap and just biting back out of butthurt

[NBT]

"There are known knowns and known unknowns,but there's also unknown unknowns.Thangs we don't know we don't know."

[colorles]

"There are known knowns and known unknowns,but there's also unknown unknowns.Thangs we don't know we don't know."

[Nightmare Luffy]

before the seeming policy change so why even talk about it as if it's "interesting:



it's not my opinion it's context that f*(king matters man..we're using our judgment and trusting you people to do the same.

There is nothing wrong with calling a hunk of crap a hunk of crap



basically this and if you can't back it up be prepared to take a beating

oh and no it wouldn't be flaming if someone said a poster who believed for example the naruto universe could take marvel dc and image..

if said narufanboy called a guy defending the big three a moron he'd be guilty of flaming since he's both a fanboy and massively full of crap and just biting back out of butthurt
Yes so what your saying is, is its only 'flaming' if you're on the losing side of the debate. ._.

[NBT]

What?

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Yes so what your saying is, is its only 'flaming' if you're on the losing side of the debate. ._.

that isn't what I'm saying at all

I'm saying it's only flaming when it's not true and when it's gone overboard it isn't our job to force people to walk on egg shells and be sensitive of your feelings..you aren't going to be escaping harsh rebuttals for making the typical fanboy claims any more- but apart from that tread carefully

[waterluffyG2]

Yes so what your saying is, is its only 'flaming' if you're on the losing side of the debate. ._.
Oh, not this again...
Just drop it and move on, NL.

[Kreegah!!!]

It's only a losing side if it cannot put up a thought-provoking argument or concedes to the other side.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Oh, not this again...
Just drop it and move on, NL.

really it's a fairly easy to understand concept

you see a newb making a really stupid claim chances are he's just misinformed and making a post or series of posts based on limited knowledge.. be smart about correcting that, now if said newb makes an Itachi-returns/moses style post then y'know eat him alive

basically context , why a thing is said is going to matter a whole hell of a lot more to me then what's said

It's only a losing side if it cannot put up a thought-provoking argument or concedes to the other side.

that too, that's very important

or if the opponent is lying his rear end off this happens too

[Nightmare Luffy]

that isn't what I'm saying at all

I'm saying it's only flaming when it's not true and when it's gone overboard it isn't our job to force people to walk on egg shells and be sensitive of your feelings..you aren't going to be escaping harsh rebuttals for making the typical fanboy claims any more- but apart from that tread carefully
Just cause the other person actually is an idiot doesnt mean its not flaming

[NBT]

So?You suggesting that that idiot be left to roam free?

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Just cause the other person actually is an idiot doesnt mean its not flaming

you mean being tolerant of view points that are both asinine and disruptive? You mean me forcing my members to walk on egg shells and be extremely courteous to the view points of people who feel that claiming Naruto can beat the living tribunal is legit?

I;m sorry but no this isn't Mister Rogers Neighborhood this is a vs debate section

So?You suggesting that that idiot be left to roam free?

of course don't you get it.. the feelings of one terrible poster is worth a dozen good debaters being banned over in NL's world

we tried that here..and it culminated in an epic melt down and shitstorm that burned out TBC and pissed off all the staff and almost got this section killed

I for one am not interested in repeating that

[Nightmare Luffy]

you mean being tolerant of view points that are both asinine and disruptive? You mean me forcing my members to walk on egg shells and be extremely courteous to the view points of people who feel that claiming Naruto can beat the living tribunal is legit?

I;m sorry but no this isn't Mister Rogers Neighborhood this is a vs debate section



of course don't you get it.. the feelings of one terrible poster is worth a dozen good debaters being banned over in NL's world

we tried that here..and it culminated in an epic melt down and shitstorm that burned out TBC and pissed off all the staff and almost got this section killed

I for one am not interested in repeating that
You said its not flaming when the person calling the other person an idiot actually is an idiot, youre wrong its still flaming. if you dont want to ban the people flaming who are on the winning side thats your opinion but its still flaming

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

You said its not flaming when the person calling the other person an idiot actually is an idiot, youre wrong its still flaming. if you dont want to ban the people flaming who are on the winning side thats your opinion but its still flaming

that isn't flaming..get over it NL because things are changing around here: you don't like being called out? Don't do another superman vs kakashi thread..don't go by hype and statements

debate properly..or get used to being pounded into the ground by your peers: This goes for you and every other member of certain fandoms who've been living high off the past administrations tolerance while good posters have gotten banned for getting tired of your crap

That is happening no longer: I suggest you stop crying about it and get over it because this place is about serious debating now and gone are the days when someone like NBT is going to be banned for calling a stupid post stupid

[Nightmare Luffy]

that isn't flaming..get over it NL because things are changing around here: you don't like being called out? Don't do another superman vs kakashi thread..don't go by hype and statements

debate properly..or get used to being pounded into the ground by your peers: This goes for you and every other member of certain fandoms who've been living high off the past administrations tolerance while good posters have gotten banned for getting tired of your crap

That is happening no longer: I suggest you stop crying about it and get over it because this place is about serious debating now and gone are the days when someone like NBT is going to be banned for calling a stupid post stupid
You keep bringing me into this like I'm involved, I have nothing to do with what the defenition of flaming is. Flaming doesnt mean something different because I have 'temper tantrums' about it lol.

courtesy of wikipedia:

Flaming, also known as bashing, is hostile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile) and insulting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulting) interaction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interaction) between Internet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet) users.

It doesnt matter if youre on the winning or losing side, it doesnt matter if the other person cant form a coherent sentence, its still called flaming.

As I said if you dont want to ban people for flaming whether theyre winning or losing thats up to you but its still by definition called flaming

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

bawwwww why don't you let me wank without retribution

I tell you what why don't you white knight against the rabid fanwank and crap? where were you when good debaters were flushed down the tubes because no one did anything when the million dumb ass posted "Hulk vs Itachi" and wanked so hard everyone lost their minds? hm!? Where were you when moronic narutards infested this site?

oh wait..you only take on people who refuse to allow you to have your little pipe dream..refuse to allow other people to have their own

take your outrage and stick it where the sun doesn't shine you pretentious hypocrite because as far as I'm concerned all your doing is antagonizing the staff and disrupting things without any justification and it's making you look pathetic

[Shikamaru Nara]

Why is it that we have to bicker like children in every convo?

yeah, i know it's the pot calling the kettle black, but I don't see why it has to exist in every convo thread.

[Nightmare Luffy]

I tell you what why don't you white knight against the rabid fanwank and crap? where were you when good debaters were flushed down the tubes because no one did anything when the million dumb ass posted "Hulk vs Itachi" and wanked so hard everyone lost their minds? hm!? Where were you when moronic narutards infested this site?

oh wait..you only take on people who refuse to allow you to have your little pipe dream..refuse to allow other people to have their own

take your outrage and stick it where the sun doesn't shine you pretentious hypocrite because as far as I'm concerned all your doing is antagonizing the staff and disrupting things without any justification and it's making you look pathetic
Well IWD resorting to immature childish tactics & editing my post shows the position of the debate I'm in :p

[NBT]

I'm suddenly reminded of Naruto vs. Sonic.....

[shinigan no sora]

I'm suddenly reminded of Naruto vs. Sonic.....



Lol! I've seen threads like those.

Poor dumb fan boys

In other news I'm with IWD its a versus section for crying out loud! You either. Put up or shut up and fanboys as a group often tend to be needing an "education" in facts and feats

[colorles]

'flaming' is just that. so whats it matter if you get flamed here or anywhere? its just 'flaming'...however when 'flaming' starts getting used as an excuse to 'ban posters you do not like', and then said posters will often point out an instance of another member doing 'worse flaming' but not banned, then...

[Nightmare Luffy]

'flaming' is just that. so whats it matter if you get flamed here or anywhere? its just 'flaming'...however when 'flaming' starts getting used as an excuse to 'ban posters you do not like', and then said posters will often point out an instance of another member doing 'worse flaming' but not banned, then...

Yep this exactly. Well I do agree with you %100, its unrelated what to I was talking about with IWD just now though :p

[Wooster]

It's context, my little BGers.

Calling someone stupid out of the blue is flaming. Calling TU a rot is just the God's honest truth. I have seen countless threads running along happily turn into flame wars as soon as PW posts.

Then there was the PU stealing the wiki, phew. :roll:

[NBT]

Steal?That was their wiki anyway.

[Nightmare Luffy]

It's context, my little BGers.

Calling someone stupid out of the blue is flaming. Calling TU a rot is just the God's honest truth. I have seen countless threads running along happily turn into flame wars as soon as PW posts.
Flaming, also known as bashing, is hostile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile) and insulting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulting) interaction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interaction) between Internet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet) users.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I wonder if your definitions are up to date there Wooster :p
Then there was the PU stealing the wiki, phew. :roll:
Wgat happened?

[e710]

Flaming, also known as bashing, is hostile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile) and insulting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulting) interaction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interaction) between Internet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet) users.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I wonder if your definitions are up to date there Wooster :p

Wgat happened?


This guy Phoinex and Miles and someone else can't remember, made most of the wiki. When they left they took it with them.

[Wooster]

Flamingalso known as bashing, is hostile and insulting interaction between Internet users.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I wonder if your definitions are up to date there Wooster :p

Wgat happened?
Missed that preposition did you? How can I flame someone that is not here? `:P
Wait, what I meant to say was

YOU ARE NOT A NEUTRAL ADMIN OR MODERATOR PLEASE REFRAIN FROM POSTING
Anyone that gets that receives an ice cream cone :mrgreen:

I will say it again CONTEXT!


Edit: That guy would have been TBC. Soooo ,yeah. :roll:

[Nightmare Luffy]

This guy Phoinex and Miles and someone else can't remember, made most of the wiki. When they left they took it with them. You mean deleted it? Cause you cant exactly "take" a wikipedia page hmmm
Missed that preposition did you? How can I flame someone that is not here? `:P
Wait, what I meant to say was

YOU ARE NOT A NEUTRAL ADMIN OR MODERATOR PLEASE REFRAIN FROM POSTING
Anyone that gets that receives an ice cream cone :mrgreen:

I will say it again CONTEXT!
Ohh I see how it is, its only flaming if the other persons here to respond back, so you guys banned PW so you could get away with it :p

[e710]

You mean deleted it? Cause you cant exactly "take" a wikipedia page hmmm

Don't know exactly but yea they just probably deleted it.

[Wooster]

More of, since he is not here, I will explain to everyone else WHY he was banned.

PU's sensitivities are much too fragile to flame him. Even ignoring his walls of texting hurts his feelings.


Edit: It wasn't a Wiki as in Wikipedia. It had a password which was changed, I believe.
I don't really know because that matters little to me. But it sure caused a craptornado.

[Nightmare Luffy]

Don't know exactly but yea they just probably deleted it.
Oh hmm k thanks, Ill try to learn more if anyone else knows tho seems pretty weird theyd just erase it had a lot of info right? I remember the really long threads with lots of pages that Im pretty sure had to do with that wikipedia lolMore of, since he is not here, I will explain to everyone else WHY he was banned.

PU's sensitivities are much too fragile to flame him. Even ignoring his walls of texting hurts his feelings.


Edit: It wasn't a Wiki as in Wikipedia. It had a password which was changed, I believe.
I don't really know because that matters little to me. But it sure caused a craptornado.
Your ignoring of the subject amuses me `;)

Well WIkipedia as in Wikispace or whatever theyre called, Im pretty sure thats what the OBD one is like. IDK about the password stuff sinc eI never really went there, well the Wikis still there right even if you cant log on or w/e

[Wooster]

Again, I don't think the one from here was either of those. Nabris or TBC would know.

Maybe even Cult if he chimes in.

[Nightmare Luffy]

OK thanks lol

Now tell me why PW was banned was it cause like I said you wanted ot be able to get away with flaming them, and you need 2 people for it to be defined flaming
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/ofc5ra1.png

Wait though not too edit late but, why was PW was really banned? cause all I see around here is 'hes a huge troll' or 'he flamed really bad' and all that stuff but whered he actually do any of that stuff I dont remember any of that

[colorles]

something tells me' dudemeister likely enjoyed todays Naruto chapter

although if tsunade trolls madara with 'will of fire' next chapter...

[colorles]

...then file:///tmp/moz-screenshot-1.png

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Why is it that we have to bicker like children in every convo?

yeah, i know it's the pot calling the kettle black, but I don't see why it has to exist in every convo thread.

because nightmare luffy is acting like a crybaby who's white knighting too late in his career as a debater for it to matter

Well IWD resorting to immature childish tactics & editing my post shows the position of the debate I'm in :p

are you serious? You are throwing a temper tantrum because you're unhappy with my stance on what I consider fanboyism and what I consider acceptable in regards to calling people out

you don't have a valid point let's not pretend you're even arguing because you genuinely believe this is a double standard..all you are is pissed off that certain fictions are gonna be loosing more matches because of more efficient policies regarding evidence and that certain fans are now on notice about how their era of freedom to make whatever claims they want and train wreck threads with wank is now over

It's context, my little BGers.

you'd think this would be easy to understand

Then there was the PU stealing the wiki, phew. :roll:

oh he did that? What the hell?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I wonder if your definitions are up to date there Wooster :p



Ohh I see how it is, its only flaming if the other persons here to respond back, so you guys banned PW so you could get away with it :p



hey NL now is the time to follow Penn Gillette's sagely advice regarding what you need to do right now (naruto.viz.lol/forum)

[Nightmare Luffy]

because nightmare luffy is acting like a crybaby who's white knighting too late in his career as a debater for it to matter

are you serious? You are throwing a temper tantrum because you're unhappy with my stance on what I consider fanboyism and what I consider acceptable in regards to calling people out

you don't have a valid point let's not pretend you're even arguing because you genuinely believe this is a double standard..all you are is pissed off that certain fictions are gonna be loosing more matches because of more efficient policies regarding evidence and that certain fans are now on notice about how their era of freedom to make whatever claims they want and train wreck threads with wank is now over

you'd think this would be easy to understand

oh he did that? What the hell?

hey NL now is the time to follow Penn Gillette's sagely advice regarding what you need to do right now (http://naruto.viz.com/forum/no)
I dont see why you think that involves me in any ywa, Im not talking about me at all, where are you getting that? Im talking about the definition of flaming

I thoroughly enjoyed that video IWD I wil rep ASAP lol, Im sure it will be removed thoughb|(
Megaman IIRC :p

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

I thoroughly enjoyed that video IWD I wil rep ASAP lol, Im sure it will be removed thoughb|(
Megaman IIRC :p

I've thought about using that more often though I admit among all those whom I've used it again

I like you the most

[Shikamaru Nara]

As for you NL, if you are complaining about IWD...you clearly have no read anything you have posted in this thread.

So basically you call people idiots and tell them how retarded their ideas are. That's okay if yours are any better. There is a difference in someone who thinks that they are right and they flaunt it and actually are right and people who in essence, call people garbage, spout crap in your post about how great you are, barely debating, and then claiming what you said is irrefutable.

You are the latter. I have been reading every thread in this section for almost three years now. I have never been so enraged at idiocy.

So anyway, if you plan on getting revenge for banning TU or something, march your ass out, or I'm bannin your ass from this thread.

MY HOUSE HO.

And Wooster, I get it! KT KT KT.

ICE CREAM YEAHHHH

[e710]

They technically left they didn't get banned.

[Nightmare Luffy]

As for you NL, if you are complaining about IWD...you clearly have no read anything you have posted in this thread.

So basically you call people idiots and tell them how retarded their ideas are. That's okay if yours are any better. There is a difference in someone who thinks that they are right and they flaunt it and actually are right and people who in essence, call people garbage, spout crap in your post about how great you are, barely debating, and then claiming what you said is irrefutable.

You are the latter. I have been reading every thread in this section for almost three years now. I have never been so enraged at idiocy.

So anyway, if you plan on getting revenge for banning TU or something, march your ass out, or I'm bannin your ass from this thread.

MY HOUSE HO.

And Wooster, I get it! KT KT KT.

ICE CREAM YEAHHHH
What/ When have I ever flamed ever? If you read the thread like you claimed too have done the only thing I argued with IWD about was the definition of flaming.It dont matter if youre winning or losing a debate, flaming by definition is flaming. Did I say anything should be done about it? No, was i complaining? No, & hell I could agree with you maybe if somoene is in the right when they say someone elses an idiot then theyre fine to say that, maybe I disagree, ut thats not what we were arguing about

Im simply saying whether the other person really is an idiot or not dont matter. if you say "Its not flaming if youre right, its only flaming if your wrong" cause the definition of flaming is insulting other users. the definition isnt "insulting people when theyre in the right and youre in the wrong"

We werent arguing about any other madeup stuff that youre thinking of, but if you think I was doing any flaming @ all then i'm not the one who needs to reread, & since you apparently read every thread in the section for 3 years please point out the flaming Ive done(other than that noob 'u idiot' stuff from 3 years ago):p

[Wooster]

Suffice to say there is only one user I want "shot" on sight. It is not Nagato>Naruto, it is not Dudemeister, nor Tourune, nor some odd ball DBZ MVC wanker that may appear here, or even Kuroda if he should magically appear. It is TU. In fact, I may infract anyone that even deigns converse with him. `:P

[Nightmare Luffy]

Im his BFF & talk to him every minute of the day U mad woosterhttp://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/ofc5ra1.png

Well serious question though as i was ignored before how come you hate PW/ out of curiousity?

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

What/ When have I ever flamed ever?

some of your early opinions were so outrageous they'd count as flaming..for the sheer fact that the magnitude of biased infuriated and offended people




Im simply saying whether the other person really is an idiot or not dont matter. if you say "Its not flaming if youre right, its only flaming if your wrong" cause the definition of flaming is insulting other users. the definition isnt "insulting people when theyre in the right and youre in the wrong"


and you had a very clear ulterior motive for doing that and let's not pretend otherwise

please point out the flaming Ive done(other than that noob 'u idiot' stuff from 3 years ago):p

"why Naruto is the strongest verse"

every single thing you said in that thread may as well be flaming for the uproar you caused

and yes when you're views are so stupid they piss off the entire section you are guilty of trolling and flaming regardless of what the official definition says

Suffice to say there is only one user I want "shot" on sight. It is not Nagato>Naruto,

can you illuminate for me just how bad this guy was? Because for you to be enraged at all it has to severe

[Wooster]

When did I say I hate him? I love driving him up the wall. If I were the only member here, I'd keep him here in his own personal hell. The problem is he infatuates the entire forum and then shitstorms happen, like the lock down.

But let me enumerated.

#1 Long ago, he tried to prove Obito was Tobi and brought a flame war to the Bookstore. I greatly disapprove. :evil: He even attrack some crank from another forum. Fortunately, Sticky and I drove him away, and he kept his ass here.

#2 He got all bend out of shape when Sticky and I proved Sai Shaft easily beats Deidara. He even followed me to Off Topic. Even when I tried to give him some benefit of the doubt , he spat on it and stomp it into the dirt.

#3 The wiki stealing. I already went into that

#4 He and dudemeister caused the lock down essentially over a joke thread, when one of my jokes completely flew over dudmeister's head and he tried to cover that fact up with gobbledy gook. PU turned it into a flame war for no apparent reason.

Edit: Silly me, why Haku easily beats Deidara. :ugeek:

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Really? I thought the lockdown had more to do with me calling TBC's pro Kakashi againast America defense fanfiction?

funny..I was walking around blaming myself all this time



MY HOUSE HO.

And Wooster, I get it! KT KT KT.

ICE CREAM YEAHHHH

wow Shika just threw down the gauntlet and became the new sheriff

okay if I call you Wyatt Earp from now on?

[Wooster]

I am sure TBC didn't give a rat's ass about that. :lol:

It was PU egging Dudemeister on about a joke that he didn't get and then his and my arguments about Bad Dudes the video game and which president was being portrayed.

It was that same thread to be sure, and many other people got involved mainly about PU being banned I believe. Dudemeister survived a bit longer before being banned because I told TBC to hold off until so I could unequivocally prove I was right, which I did. :ugeek:

[Nightmare Luffy]

some of your early opinions were so outrageous they'd count as flaming..for the sheer fact that the magnitude of biased infuriated and offended people

and you had a very clear ulterior motive for doing that and let's not pretend otherwise

"why Naruto is the strongest verse"

every single thing you said in that thread may as well be flaming for the uproar you caused

and yes when you're views are so stupid they piss off the entire section you are guilty of trolling and flaming regardless of what the official definition says

can you illuminate for me just how bad this guy was? Because for you to be enraged at all it has to severeSo if I said youre a <insert noun> for saying X, youd debate with me for hours and say "you moron thats not what <afore mentioned word> means" and Ill say, 'oh I wasnt going by the official definition i dont care what that means, it means what I want" lol

whats my ulterior motive? How could you think I have one when I really dont have any idea what youre talking about b|(

When did I say I hate him? I love driving him up the wall. If I were the only member here, I'd keep him here in his own personal hell. The problem is he infatuates the entire forum and then shitstorms happen, like the lock down.

But let me enumerated.

#1 Long ago, he tried to prove Obito was Tobi and brought a flame war to the Bookstore. I greatly disapprove. :evil: He even attrack some crank from another forum. Fortunately, Sticky and I drove him away, and he kept his ass here.

#2 He got all bend out of shape when Sticky and I proved Sai Shaft easily beats Deidara. He even followed me to Off Topic. Even when I tried to give him some benefit of the doubt , he spat on it and stomp it into the dirt.

#3 The wiki stealing. I already went into that

#4 He and dudemeister caused the lock down essentially over a joke thread, when one of my jokes completely flew over dudmeister's head and he tried to cover that fact up with gobbledy gook. PU turned it into a flame war for no apparent reason.

Edit: Silly me, why Haku easily beats Deidara. :ugeek:Well you said he was a cancerous, pustulous rot & should be shot on sight so I got the impression you really really dislike him.

Not too "troll" but your post has an 'u mad bro' vibe `;)

This is clearl from a biased perspective so Ill learn more before I post an opinion on it
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/43h7r5d.gif
I am sure TBC didn't give a rat's ass about that. :lol:

It was PU egging Dudemeister on about a joke that he didn't get and then his and my arguments about Bad Dudes the video game and which president was being portrayed.

It was that same thread to be sure, and many other people got involved mainly about PU being banned I believe. Dudemeister survived a bit longer before being banned because I told TBC to hold off until so I could unequivocally prove I was right, which I did.I remember that, TBC flamed really really bad in that thread though from what i rememberhttp://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c172/nfandom/D.gif

[Wooster]

TBC flaming? That never happens. Nope. I shan't believe it. :geek:

[Nightmare Luffy]

TBC flaming? That never happens. Nope. I shan't believe it. :geek:
the thread was deleted shortly after he made the thread about flaming equals ban, I wonder why http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/ofc5ra1.png

[Wooster]

Doesn't matter. Everything is PU/TU/PW/DW's fault. He may even cause TBC to go insane, therefore; any of TBC's alleged flaming is also TU's fault. :ugeek:

[Cult of Personality]

What is PU short for? :hmm

[Nightmare Luffy]

That would be kind of funny if something like that did happen tho http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/ofc5ra1.png

cult posted so I have to edit quote y u do this >=(

[Cult of Personality]

For that matter, why is the recognition of a bad smell characterized as PU/peeuw.

[Nightmare Luffy]

Cause Pu sounds like Poo http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/ofc5ra1.png

Oh so u edit post, yes that too http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/ofc5ra1.png

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

So if I said youre a <insert noun> for saying X, youd debate with me for hours and say "you moron thats not what <afore mentioned word> means" and Ill say, 'oh I wasnt going by the official definition i dont care what that means, it means what I want" lol

yes it might shock you that vs debating which is it's netculture has a radically different view on what flaming really constitutes and then punishes in according with it's own tradition of what is what



whats my ulterior motive? How could you think I have one when I really dont have any idea what youre talking about b|(


oh please I declare war on the pervasive biased in this section..which includes a sizable portion of the Naruto fanbase and you go apeshit?

Doesn't matter. Everything is PU/TU/PW/DW's fault. He may even cause TBC to go insane, therefore; any of TBC's alleged flaming is also TU's fault. :ugeek:

oh come now.. your making TU out to be Satan when I thought I was this forums devil

[Cult of Personality]

If anyone is this forum's Satan it's Devil's Lawyer. Irony.

[Wooster]

PU is short for PhoenixwrighttruebornUchiha DarkWing Duck. :ugeek:

Don't ask me why I would ever associate the awesome DW with PU, I just like thinking about that duck is all. :mrgreen:


Edit: silly beans, not Satan. I told you, a cancerous, pustulous rot. Very infectious.

[Nightmare Luffy]

yes it might shock you that vs debating which is it's netculture has a radically different view on what flaming really constitutes and then punishes in according with it's own tradition of what is what

oh please I declare war on the pervasive biased in this section..which includes a sizable portion of the Naruto fanbase and you go apeshit?

oh come now.. your making TU out to be Satan when I thought I was this forums devil
Well what do you mean IWD whats your defintion of flaming/trolling then?

IDK what you mean by your 2nd paragraph, again Im talking about the definition of flaming it literally has nothing to do with me. when people debate on word meanings it doesnt relate to them man IDK where your getting all this ulterior motive stuff

[Wooster]

The definition of flaming is not the same as the Infracton for flaming.

You are just getting into semantics now, Night Light. :ugeek:

[Nightmare Luffy]

Thats what ive been discussing all along semantics what IWD was saying was the flaming is only 'flaming' when the persons loosing the argument lol, Ive been trying to say Im discussing the definition this whole time & personal stuffs brought into this, totally unrelated

So thank you wooster, & I like night light I think i'm going to use it http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/ofc5ra1.png

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Well what do you mean IWD whats your defintion of flaming/trolling then?


Do you mean what I would infract for flaming?

Very simple: a fantard or a troll who continues to make outragous claims and disrupts the section..a poster like Itachi Returns and Brack Shikamaru and Puff the magic dumbass: Aggressive pseudo-intellectuals and bullies (in Itachi Returns case) loud mouthed morons who make stupid claims and hurl insults..

A guy who argues for Itachi against the hulk for 12 pages as so often happened in the past is a disruptive problem I'd infract for

I'd consider a veteran poster who attacks a newb merciless when they make a basic mistake worth infracting for flaming and trolling as well..

Thats what ive been discussing all along semantics what IWD was saying was the flaming is only 'flaming' when the persons loosing the argument lol, Ive been trying to say Im discussing the definition this whole time & personal stuffs brought into this, totally unrelated

So thank you wooster, & I like night light I think i'm going to use it http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/ofc5ra1.png

in that case not only did you fantastically misunderstand me but you wasted everyones time with something completely worthless

good job NL..but this would be trolling..my advice is to not come back onto the BG's until next Monday

[Wooster]

Reading the entirety of the CBox archives and thinking about PU has made me sleepy.

Goodnight everybody, I will be here all week.
/plays recording of massive applause

[Cult of Personality]

Mercy is for the weak. :ugeek:

[Nightmare Luffy]

Do you mean what I would infract for flaming?

Very simple: a fantard or a troll who continues to make outragous claims and disrupts the section..a poster like Itachi Returns and Brack Shikamaru and Puff the magic dumbass: Aggressive pseudo-intellectuals and bullies (in Itachi Returns case) loud mouthed morons who make stupid claims and hurl insults..

A guy who argues for Itachi against the hulk for 12 pages as so often happened in the past is a disruptive problem I'd infract for

I'd consider a veteran poster who attacks a newb merciless when they make a basic mistake worth infracting for flaming and trolling as well..

in that case not only did you fantastically misunderstand me but you wasted everyones time with something completely worthless

good job NL..but this would be trolling..my advice is to not come back onto the BG's until next Monday
That too but what I mean is how you define flaming/trolling what do you think the 2 words mean? Cause Im definitely not 'trolling' maybe Im arguing with you about something useless but not trolling, what did i misunderstand you about?

[Shikamaru Nara]

Fhaha wow NL you're officially more of a dipshit than I I initially thought because the point I was trying to put across just flew over your head.

IWD, that is appreciated. xD

[Kreegah!!!]

Ever stare overlong at the creases in an aged picnic table? Watching the nigh microscopic critters and fungi? So much more exciting than this yawnfest. Let's converse about something interesting. Say, why ducks and geese have to constantly raise, lower, and extend their necks as they talk to each other--along with the occasional butt-wiggling. I'd say bill-dodging, but that ignores the butt-wiggles.

[Devils Lawyer]

TBC flaming? That never happens. Nope. I shan't believe it. :geek:
Yeah and I have never been banned.:lol:

[Wooster]

Ever stare overlong at the creases in an aged picnic table? Watching the nigh microscopic critters and fungi? So much more exciting than this yawnfest. Let's converse about something interesting. Say, why ducks and geese have to constantly raise, lower, and extend their necks as they talk to each other--along with the occasional butt-wiggling. I'd say bill-dodging, but that ignores the butt-wiggles.
I disagree; this much more interesting. Of course, all the credit belongs to me. :ugeek:

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Ever stare overlong at the creases in an aged picnic table? Watching the nigh microscopic critters and fungi? So much more exciting than this yawnfest. Let's converse about something interesting. Say, why ducks and geese have to constantly raise, lower, and extend their necks as they talk to each other--along with the occasional butt-wiggling. I'd say bill-dodging, but that ignores the butt-wiggles.

that is one of lifes mysteries

[Nightmare Luffy]

Fhaha wow NL you're officially more of a dipshit than I I initially thought because the point I was trying to put across just flew over your head.

IWD, that is appreciated. xD
What point were you trying to make? Explain it since Im obviously too dipshit to understand what you meant

[shinigan no sora]

Ever stare overlong at the creases in an aged picnic table? Watching the nigh microscopic critters and fungi? So much more exciting than this yawnfest. Let's converse about something interesting. Say, why ducks and geese have to constantly raise, lower, and extend their necks as they talk to each other--along with the occasional butt-wiggling. I'd say bill-dodging, but that ignores the butt-wiggles.

Weell joke that may be but I actually know why they do that:cool: :D

[tsuki]

Really now? You mods are flaming Nightmare Luffy? You can't do that just because you hate him and all.
If he is being a Troll they can.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Really now? You mods are flaming Nightmare Luffy? You can't do that just because you hate him and all.

who hates him? I actually like him and lemonhead their like the crazy cousin and uncle respectively- why do you think I've held back on using my authority on either of the two in any harsh capacity?

Lemon is vastly more retarded though and he's an outright sign up troll who got banned from six vs sections in as many hours last week...

NL cares in his own misguided and fanbiased way about this section and i can respect that

but that doesn't mean we have to allow him to do what he's doing or pull our punches when calling him out

What is considered flaming in this section is changing we aren't applying kindergarden rules to you guys any more

[Shikamaru Nara]

What point were you trying to make? Explain it since Im obviously too dipshit to understand what you meant

^this is the point.

You're an elitist ;););););););). But I guess, once again, pot calling the kettle black.

Anyhow, it's painful to have to explain something to you since it takes virtually no comprehension skill to see it.
Honestly dude, if you're so amazing, you would've retorted with a response a bit more intelligent than calling yourself a dipshit.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

really at least when I fought the mods it was for a selfless cause I was doing it for the memberbase I was doing it against what I thought based off the information I had at the time was an undeserved retribution that treated the symptoms but not the disease and I did fully expecting to be permed and any improvements I was able to make they'd be enjoying but not me

What are you doing NL? besides fighting for the right to make really outrageous claims then hide behind the rules when someone calls you out on it? You aren't fighting for the members..your fighting for the tards you're acting like the fanboy has as much value as the reg or hell even the newb with one single post but a good head on his shoulder and common sense

simply put: he doesn't

edit- damn I've never seen Shika this pissed

[Nightmare Luffy]

^this is the point.

You're an elitist ;););););););). But I guess, once again, pot calling the kettle black.

Anyhow, it's painful to have to explain something to you since it takes virtually no comprehension skill to see it.
Honestly dude, if you're so amazing, you would've retorted with a response a bit more intelligent than calling yourself a dipshit.
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.pngCome on shika Im starting to think theres no point at all, & you just want to be able to countlessly throw insults at me cause you dont like me. So now we got a nice body count of names such as dipshit, ;););););););), 0 comprehension skill etc.

I never said I was amazing in the first place youre making stuff up dude, & what am I supposed to respond to? I asked what you meant since I dont know if I dont know what too respond to theres not much more i can do

[colorles]

Ever stare overlong at the creases in an aged picnic table? Watching the nigh microscopic critters and fungi? So much more exciting than this yawnfest. Let's converse about something interesting. Say, why ducks and geese have to constantly raise, lower, and extend their necks as they talk to each other--along with the occasional butt-wiggling. I'd say bill-dodging, but that ignores the butt-wiggles.

geese 'neck movments' when they walk together? perhaps conveys emotions, or some sort of 'signalling'...or maybe just how they walk. lol geese,,but if you corner a geese and its little yellow chicks, they can get pretty 'fierce' with hissing, lower their necks like raptors, and charge at you with a combination of 'running' and powerful flying, at your head while hissing, and they'll go for your eyes

[Shikamaru Nara]

Dude were you dropped when you were a child?
Because you reay still don't understand it after I made my feeling explicitly clear about you.

[colorles]

NL brought up the 'definition of flaming', and it seems hes using it to 'fester' this argument more, as the more you flame him, the more your 'contradicting' the 'definition' he provided. hence this seems will go on

[Leafy]

Woah woah now, let's keep the peace.

[megabbaut]

Inb4 Shikamaru locks thread for new convo time

[Shikamaru Nara]

It's not 200 posts yet. So I'll lock your thread until then.

Anyway, I'm done with NL. This is immature and I got involved in something I JUST told IWD not to engage in.

[colorles]

well, perhaps i 'should' make some new vs topics

any reccomendations?

[Shikamaru Nara]

Make something about HxH.

[colorles]

Make something about HxH.


ooo k

[Shikamaru Nara]

Thread over.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

geese 'neck movments' when they walk together? perhaps conveys emotions, or some sort of 'signalling'...or maybe just how they walk. lol geese,,but if you corner a geese and its little yellow chicks, they can get pretty 'fierce' with hissing, lower their necks like raptors, and charge at you with a combination of 'running' and powerful flying, at your head while hissing, and they'll go for your eyes

Geese and Swans are mean bastards I've seen 'em run off Dobbermans

Water fowl in general are pretty dirty and raptastic birds

Woah woah now, let's keep the peace.

this melt down is good in a way because it sorta reveals to all the true agenda of certain posters

but I agree NL you've carried this on for several days now and I'm telling you: You are to cease and desist or face sanctions for trolling

[TheBlackChidori]

If crap like this keeps up, these BG Convos are completely going bye bye. They aren't a necessary part of the Battlegrounds and are only here so that you guys don't have to go into Off-Topic just to chat around. But bear in mind, they are a privilege. And if they get shut down, it's completely the fault of Mega and NL who just won't let there be peace between staff and members and always bark about the conspiracies.

Flaming might be ban worthy, but so is harassment and spamming, and NL, you are a prime example of that. The staff has other things to do here than be goaded by your nagging. Keep it up, and you'll join the list.