View Full Version : Kabuto ET Army vs. Marvel (Remake)
Lord Jiraiya
11-24-2011, 07:14 PM
Kabutois hiden in a unknown Location using his map to control his army.
No destroying the planet. To win all ET's must be destroyed and Kabuto must be killed.
(For the record these are ETs so they will just reform if jean did blow them up and Kabuto is off location miles and miles away controlling via map and without Cerebra Jean cant find him. but I removed her ok)
Kabuto's Army:
ET Goku
ET Itachi
ET Nagato
ET Minato
ET Third Raikage
ET Jiraiya
ET Shisui Uchiha
ET Danzo
ET Madara
ET Kisame
ET Gohan
ET Konan
ET Daidara
ET Hashirama
ET Goten
Marvel:
Wolverine
Rogue
Storm
Hulk
Iceman
Angel
Beast
Human Torch
The Thing
X-23
Gambit
Colossus
Blob
Scott Summers
She-Hulk
TheBlackChidori
11-24-2011, 07:40 PM
You removed the psychics, helps a bit since they can just force Kabuto make the release seal.
Even so, none of them can hurt Hulk. Even old superman couldn't. =/
But I'll let this one go so you can see why by bigger nerds than me.
TheBlackChidori
11-24-2011, 07:43 PM
Feats of The Hulk
http://www.bamkapow.com/the-incredible-hulk-s-most-amazing-feats-1399-p.html
Leafy
11-24-2011, 07:53 PM
The coolest feat Hulk has is outliving all other life on earth....I just think that was so cool.
Rasengan SageX5
11-24-2011, 09:27 PM
If I remember right, Hulk even outlived Banner. His Banner half finally gave up and died, but Hulk's regeneration kept him alive. It was actually pretty sad.
Lord Jiraiya
11-24-2011, 09:37 PM
You removed the psychics, helps a bit since they can just force Kabuto make the release seal.
Even so, none of them can hurt Hulk. Even old superman couldn't. =/
But I'll let this one go so you can see why by bigger nerds than me.
Yeah i know Hulk is a problem, but if you turn that beast against his own team using Shisui Uchiha then Hulk is now on Kabuto's side. Danzo can use Shisui Uchiha's Genjutsu on She-Hulk giving Kabuto even more power.
Nagato floats high in the air and crushes the battlefield while the ET's live.
Madara starts dropping Meteorite's on the battlefield killing most of Marvels team.
If Hulk some how cant be used by Shisui Uchiha's genjutsu, then Nagato traps him in a CT long enough for Itachi to seal him away with his sword.
Madara summons the Demon Fox
Jiraiya/Minato Summons all his Toads
Nagato Summons all his summons.
After the Onslaught from the ET Army I count maybe 6 Marvel members alive. Hulk, She-Hulk, Wolverine, Blob, X-23, Colossus (Maybe).
Lord Jiraiya
11-24-2011, 09:47 PM
HULK ANGRY
HULK GAZ.
Hulk Farts. GG
The ET's Reform I know Hulk is powerful... Now look at the teams... Chakra is life force Marvel beings have life force... Genjutsu effects Hulk... Hulk cant kill what he cant see if he is fighting an illusion how can he win? Hulk gets sealed by Itachi while he is in genjutsu... Marvel will be down to maybe 6 members after madara strikes.... 5 when Itachi seals Hulk.
remember Kabuto isn't on the Battlefield he is miles and miles away control through his map....
You cant kill a ET Army with sealing them...
Rasengan SageX5
11-24-2011, 09:51 PM
We've seen people try to control him or put him under illusions before. He usually ends up breaking free of the illusion/control when he gets angry enough.
TheBlackChidori
11-24-2011, 09:55 PM
Yeah i know Hulk is a problem, but if you turn that beast against his own team using Shisui Uchiha then Hulk is now on Kabuto's side. Danzo can use Shisui Uchiha's Genjutsu on She-Hulk giving Kabuto even more power.
Except no one in the Narutoverse could ever even keep an eye on the people on your marvel list, let alone catch them in a Genjutsu. If Hulk can manage to keep up with Superman's speed, who can fly around the planet so fast that he can turn back time... I don't see Danzo using Shisui's eye.
Nagato floats high in the air and crushes the battlefield while the ET's live.
Madara starts dropping Meteorite's on the battlefield killing most of Marvels team.
Ugh. Dude. They tank supernovas. You really think any of that other stuff is going to hurt? I even posted a link with a comic scan of Hulk breaking a Meteor twice the size of earth.
If Hulk some how cant be used by Shisui Uchiha's genjutsu, then Nagato traps him in a CT long enough for Itachi to seal him away with his sword.
Again, human reflexes.
Madara summons the Demon Fox
Jiraiya/Minato Summons all his Toads
Nagato Summons all his summons.
And none of them last more than a nanosecond before being blown to nothingness.[/QUOTE]
Lord Jiraiya
11-24-2011, 09:55 PM
We've seen people try to control him or put him under illusions before. He usually ends up breaking free of the illusion/control when he gets angry enough.
Yeah, but the illusion only has to hold him long enough for the sword to seal him...
Lord Jiraiya
11-24-2011, 10:03 PM
Except no one in the Narutoverse could ever even keep an eye on the people on your marvel list, let alone catch them in a Genjutsu. If Hulk can manage to keep up with Superman's speed, who can fly around the planet so fast that he can turn back time... I don't see Danzo using Shisui's eye.
Ugh. Dude. They tank supernovas. You really think any of that other stuff is going to hurt? I even posted a link with a comic scan of Hulk breaking a Meteor twice the size of earth.
Again, human reflexes.
And none of them last more than a nanosecond before being blown to nothingness.[/QUOTE]
Explan how they defeat the ET's? In other to win al members of the other team must die. They wont find Kabuto and ET's have to be sealed which non of marvel can do....
Hulks fav thing to do in a fight is to grab his opponent Hulk grabs Danzo and he is in mind control... (The technique itself allows the user to enter the opponent's mind and manipulate them by giving them false experiences, making it seem as if they were doing things of their own free will.)
Hulk now believes Marvel are the bad guys and kills them all Kabuto wins...
if Hulk doesn't know he is being controlled he cant break it right?
Lord Jiraiya
11-25-2011, 03:38 AM
How could gen-justu hit Hulk? He is on a AD Rush on crack and in a angered state.
LOL Because CTS is > To an Android in space?
I didnt say CST would kill Hulk... But it will kill a lot of his team...
Madara will be dropping Meteorite on the battlefield...
I'm sure Itachi could seal Hulk before long... Same with She-Hulk.... Remember Hulk cant kill the ET's and Destroying the Planet isn't allowed and since Marvels to cant seal any ET's. Even if it takes a year of fighting non stop Hulk will get sealed.
Noctis Arashi
11-25-2011, 03:46 AM
CST can't kill wolverine. And it can't kill many other people on the team, if any of them.
Hulk throws the continent they are standing on into deep space, leaving the planet intact.
Lord Jiraiya
11-25-2011, 06:57 AM
Hulk cant throw it into space, because he is standing on it...
CST may not kill a lot of them... but dropping meteorites on the battlefield will kill them... Wolverine gets his soul removed by Nagato... Hulk gets sealed by Itachi's sword.
Hulk cant leave the battlefield to get in a place where he can left the land up. SSJ3 may not stop him for long but hilk will have his hands full for a little while... until Itachi seals him or Hulk is turned against his team.
Shisui Uchiha's jutsu:
The technique itself allows the user to enter the opponent's mind and manipulate them by giving them false experiences, making it seem as if they were doing things of their own free will.
This means its not an illusion... If Hulk's brain is telling him Marvel is his opponent then the marvel team will died when Hulk kills them.
cnorwood
11-25-2011, 08:50 AM
lol you put the human torch and iceman on the marvel side. this is complete and utter rape for marvel
Lord Jiraiya
11-25-2011, 09:20 AM
lol you put the human torch and iceman on the marvel side. this is complete and utter rape for marvel
Can they stop countless meteorites from killing them all?
Can they stop countless meteorites from killing them all?
Human Torch destroyed a Meteor the size of Manhattan by himself that had its own Gravity.
Manhattan size = 22.96 to 33.77 sq mi
Former is Land the latter with Water included.
Way bigger than Madaras one.
The Immortal Watch Dog
11-25-2011, 10:18 AM
Yeah i know Hulk is a problem, but if you turn that beast against his own team using Shisui Uchiha then Hulk is now on Kabuto's side. Danzo can use Shisui Uchiha's Genjutsu on She-Hulk giving Kabuto even more power.
LOL wait a minute what the hell is this nonsense? Telepaths who can mind rape billions of people instantly cannot mind rape the hulk..the entire uchihca clan combined focusing a concentred Genjutsu on him wouldn't effect him
that's not happening period Hulk punches Shisui so hard he vaporizes him
Nagato floats high in the air and crushes the battlefield while the ET's live.
Madara starts dropping Meteorite's on the battlefield killing most of Marvels team.
Ben Grimm laughs at the CT and then one shots all the meteors while mocking Madara for being more ego then brains
If Hulk some how cant be used by Shisui Uchiha's genjutsu, then Nagato traps him in a CT long enough for Itachi to seal him away with his sword.
"stupid crybaby try and mush Hulk? HULK PUNCH OUT SOUL"
oh and yeah Hulk can attacks souls and other intangible beings Edo's aren't safe
a CT isn't even going to restrain Thing let alone hulk..
Madara summons the Demon Fox
Ben snaps it's neck
oh and the kyuubi can't be summoned because it's currently sealed inside a retarded blond who hyperventilates and passes out when worrying about his boyfriend
Jiraiya/Minato Summons all his Toads
Ben beats them to death with the Kyuubi's corpse while talking about how he should hand the corpses over to gambit so he can make some leg jambalaya
Nagato Summons all his summons.
Johnny storms hurls thousands of degrees of heat in concentrated fire balls at them..they all vaporize instantly
After the Onslaught from the ET Army I count maybe 6 Marvel members alive. Hulk, She-Hulk, Wolverine, Blob, X-23, Colossus (Maybe).
you don't seem to understand how outrageous a curbstomp this is do you? Storm has created nuclear fission using her powers...she's created tornados inside peoples intestines and torn them up
she can literally turn the clouds around Nagato into nuclear bombs..she can use the currents of air and electrical patterns to sense out Kabuto
Iceman is an omega level mutant..he is so powerful in fact that he will replace yimir a skyfather level being and one of the few strong enough to challenge Odin should Yimir ever die for keeps. He can basically solo
colossus is currently the avatar of Cytorakk he wields the power of an elder god he is the new juggernaut - Juggneruat can among other things fly and rain down energy blasts and grab the very fabric of reality itself punching through dimensions..will kill an edo dead. Cain never flew never shot energy blasts..but Piotr being smarter and a more blood lusted fighter..absolutely can and will do so as well
they can't hurt juggernaut they can't even seal him. they;re facing Colossusnaut and he is smarter and much more lethal
Hulk can and has punched out spirits..man handled souls and belted Astral forms so hard they get forced back into their physical bodies. His mental resistance is so great he has shrugged off mind rapes from the likes of charles xavier who can solo the naruto universe with a mere thought they aren't hurting him
Benjamin Grimm and Rogue overpower every one in on the naruto team both of them are hypersonic in terms of reaction time Rogue can be told where Kabuto is by storm..and then rip his life force out and reverse the seal using stolen knowledge
This is insane..hell there is no proof an Edo can survive being vaporized completely..storm just causes a nuclear reaction...or Johnny vaporizes every one
The ET's Reform I know Hulk is powerful... Now look at the teams... Chakra is life force Marvel beings have life force... Genjutsu effects Hulk... Hulk cant kill what he cant see if he is fighting an illusion how can he win?Hulk gets sealed by Itachi while he is in genjutsu... Marvel will be down to maybe 6 members after madara strikes.... 5 when Itachi seals Hulk.
everything you said here is complete and utter nonsense of the highest magnitude possible. Perhaps you should log onto fanfiction.net if you want marvel to loose I'm sure there are naruto fanboys stupid enough to write up some story on such things
Hulk punches them out..He's not getting mind raped by them not in a million billion years...Itachi isn't sealing hulk he can't Hulk laughs at his nonsense and kills him
remember Kabuto isn't on the Battlefield he is miles and miles away control through his map....
You cant kill a ET Army with sealing them...
Storm senses out his location and Rogue and Johnny fly over to his locations at speeds no Naruto character can react too and then Rogues consumed him and then reverses the Genjutsu
Hulk rants about not being needed..every one else gets pissed that they were essentially brought along for nothing
Explan how they defeat the ET's? In other to win al members of the other team must die. They wont find Kabuto and ET's have to be sealed which non of marvel can do....
lol oh lord Storm can find them just fine bobby can find them. Hulk can forcefully eject the souls from the edo bodies with his fists rendering the tech moot
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if Hulk doesn't know he is being controlled he cant break it right?
Hulk isn't being mind raped period get that through your head no one in the entire NU has the ability to mind rape Hulk..no one! In fact the entire uchiha clan combined can't even compare to Emma Frost much less Charles Xavier and neither of them can do anything to hulk
I didnt say CST would kill Hulk... But it will kill a lot of his team...
the people that matter Juggerlausus, Human torch, Storm, Rogue, bobby Thing and Hulk and Wolverine wont be effected at all and Ben juggerlausus and Hulk will not even feel the CST they'll laugh at it
Madara will be dropping Meteorite on the battlefield...
Which Benjamin Grim Hulk and juggerlauses and Johnny Storm can all easily one shot
Hell juggerlausus says he has a meteor of his own and throws The Thing at Madara and his rocks which turns them all into tiny pieces of dust size particles
Ben Grimm fast ball special..FTW
I'm sure Itachi could seal Hulk before long... Same with She-Hulk.... Remember Hulk cant kill the ET's and Destroying the Planet isn't allowed and since Marvels to cant seal any ET's. Even if it takes a year of fighting non stop Hulk will get sealed.
your completely and utterly wrong on all assertions made in this post
Hulk cant throw it into space, because he is standing on it...
Hulks thunderclaps hard enough to hurl them all into space
gg Edo's
]CST may not kill a lot of them... but dropping meteorites on the battlefield will kill them...
completely and utterly false...you know nothing about the offensive power of the other side
Wolverine gets his soul removed by Nagato...
just so we're clear here..Hell Lords like Nightmare and Mephisto for some reason cannot easily take Wolverines soul..but your claiming Nagato can? GTFO with this naruto wank
Hulk gets sealed by Itachi's sword.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Hulk cant leave the battlefield to get in a place where he can left the land up. SSJ3 may not stop him for long but hilk will have his hands full for a little while... until Itachi seals him or Hulk is turned against his team.
this is insane...you cannot seriously make this claim..what nonsense is this?
Shisui Uchiha's jutsu:
The technique itself allows the user to enter the opponent's mind and manipulate them by giving them false experiences, making it seem as if they were doing things of their own free will.
This means its not an illusion... If Hulk's brain is telling him Marvel is his opponent then the marvel team will died when Hulk kills them.
Hulk laughs at this nonsense..or worse Devil Hulk takes over
Can they stop countless meteorites from killing them all?
yes easily very easily. Johnny has one shotted meteors larger than this one and Ben and juggerlausus would basically be running around casually shattering them all with single punches
Yeah, but the illusion only has to hold him long enough for the sword to seal him...
...Hulk punches Itachi into sub atomic particles
"HULK SMASH STUPID EYE BALL NAZI'S!!"
The Immortal Watch Dog
11-25-2011, 10:41 AM
LOL this guy added DBZ characters like it's supposed to make a difference
Lord Jiraiya
11-25-2011, 01:14 PM
They have been there from the start I haven't added anyone to the teams.
The Immortal Watch Dog
11-25-2011, 02:08 PM
Um it does.
Marvel people aren't the only ones to destroy planets. Frezia and Goku did by themselves.
Freiza cored a planet and needed physics to do the destruction for him
Hulk slapped on a pair of rocket boots and shot himself through an object twice earths size and using nothing but his own durability blasted it to pieces big honking difference
oh that Hulk is much weaker than the one present here and that one could still punch Goku's soul out
colorles
11-25-2011, 02:55 PM
Freiza cored a planet and needed physics to do the destruction for him
Hulk slapped on a pair of rocket boots and shot himself through an object twice earths size and using nothing but his own durability blasted it to pieces big honking difference
oh that Hulk is much weaker than the one present here and that one could still punch Goku's soul out
please dont downplay
im not gonna avidly support DBZ here (let the fanatics go at it), but said downplay is esentially no different from the 'downplay' DBZ supporters through at Marvel and the like
MinatoXNaruto
11-25-2011, 02:55 PM
Hulk solos. World War Hulk's feats are just astounding.
ILIKEPIE
11-25-2011, 03:00 PM
Goku uses Instant Transmission before Hulk gets too angry to send Hulk to another planet without any way to come back only way Hulk would lose
MinatoXNaruto
11-25-2011, 03:14 PM
Goku uses Instant Transmission before Hulk gets too angry to send Hulk to another planet without any way to come back only way Hulk would lose
Ha, i doubt goku would do that without having any knowledge on hulk at all. Anyway, even if he did, Goku would still try to fight him. He could've done that with Broly, but instead he chose to fight him instead. There's no way Goku would do some punkass ;);););) like that. Goku will either kick your ass, or die trying. Not punk out and teleport somebody to a different planet because he's scared
ILIKEPIE
11-25-2011, 03:18 PM
Kabuto forcing him to do that would be the reason he would do it
The Immortal Watch Dog
11-25-2011, 03:36 PM
please dont downplay
im not gonna avidly support DBZ here (let the fanatics go at it), but said downplay is esentially no different from the 'downplay' DBZ supporters through at Marvel and the like
what are you talking about? Freiza could not world bust in the deathstar since..he did planet kill but it was a much more conservative energy efficient method. EOS goku can do it just fine though I'm not saying other wise
as far as downplaying claiming Hulk is a better planet buster isn't downplaying it's honesty he does it on raw durability and momentum whereas Goku would need to fire off a fairly potent energy attack. However, claiming an Uchiha can mind rape the Hulk on the other hand
Goku uses Instant Transmission before Hulk gets too angry to send Hulk to another planet without any way to come back only way Hulk would lose
so then Storm causes nuclear fission inside gokus lungs?
or Iceman freezes him down to absolute zero? or Johnny vaporizes him?
colorles
11-25-2011, 03:45 PM
what are you talking about? Freiza could not world bust in the deathstar since..he did planet kill but it was a much more conservative energy efficient method. EOS goku can do it just fine though I'm not saying other wise
as far as downplaying claiming Hulk is a better planet buster isn't downplaying it's honesty he does it on raw durability and momentum whereas Goku would need to fire off a fairly potent energy attack. However, claiming an Uchiha can mind rape the Hulk on the other hand
so then Storm causes nuclear fission inside gokus lungs?
or Iceman freezes him down to absolute zero? or Johnny vaporizes him?
DBZ puts the 'power' in 'power scaling', and its made apparent in the source material that speed, power, and overall physical combat abilities related as such to aforementioned attributes increase quite noticeably through even relatively small increases in 'power levels', let alone the ever larger and larger disparities that are ever apparent in DBZ. ponder this (mind you its made rather apparent in the source material)
Piccolo casually destroyed the moon with a casual ki blast with a power level of around 400 (or somwhere around that), ponder this
also i have yet to even mention 'hulk' or the like, just pointing out some DBZ downplay, and from you of all with your 'talk'(as if were talking) of 'comic downplay' and the like
ILIKEPIE
11-25-2011, 03:45 PM
no after the instant Transmissioning Hulk away Goku would be out of Kabuto's et range, so I think he would be dead and ets are hard to kill freezeing them might work
MinatoXNaruto
11-25-2011, 03:54 PM
Goku can basically destroy marvel almost single handedly. The only marvel left would be the hulk. Not sure how they defeat the hulk though
The Immortal Watch Dog
11-25-2011, 05:52 PM
DBZ puts the 'power' in 'power scaling', and its made apparent in the source material that speed, power, and overall physical combat abilities related as such to aforementioned attributes increase quite noticeably through even relatively small increases in 'power levels', let alone the ever larger and larger disparities that are ever apparent in DBZ. ponder this (mind you its made rather apparent in the source material)
[
if a series require application of abc logic and powerscaling to get high end feats than it's a weak series with terrible evidence supporting it simple as that.
Piccolo casually destroyed the moon with a casual ki blast with a power level of around 400 (or somwhere around that), ponder this
four hundred...more like 900+
also i have yet to even mention 'hulk' or the like, just pointing out some DBZ downplay, and from you of all with your 'talk'(as if were talking) of 'comic downplay' and the like
]
reread my post carefully it's very clear I was referring to another poster and not you.
Goku can basically destroy marvel almost single handedly. The only marvel left would be the hulk. Not sure how they defeat the hulk though
no he can't that's hilariously false Johnny and Hulk are faster than him and both can one shot him
and goku can't hurt colossus period now that he's the new juggernaut
TheBlackChidori
11-25-2011, 06:07 PM
Ben beats them to death with the Kyuubi's corpse while talking about how he should hand the corpses over to gambit so he can make some leg jambalaya
l...m...a...o
The Immortal Watch Dog
11-25-2011, 07:02 PM
giant frog leg jambalaya with a nine tailed fox souffle' - Gambit and Things super hero cook book: How to serve up tasty inter-dimensional threats
ILIKEPIE
11-25-2011, 07:16 PM
who gets the honor of killing Kabuto?
colorles
11-25-2011, 07:26 PM
if a series require application of abc logic and powerscaling to get high end feats than it's a weak series with terrible evidence supporting it simple as that.
four hundred...more like 900+
reread my post carefully it's very clear I was referring to another poster and not you.
no he can't that's hilariously false Johnny and Hulk are faster than him and both can one shot him
and goku can't hurt colossus period now that he's the new juggernaut
regardless of 'destructive abilities', its made rather clear in the source material that even relatively marginal increases in 'power level' results in relatively sizable increases in speed, even between fighters with power levels relatively close, the speed differences is still rather noticeable for such a 'marginal' power level difference, and this continues with power level increases...now would you really deny this? and not just 'speed', but 'all other combat related abilities' and such?
Piccolos 'power level' was 900+ when he (along with Goku) fought Raditz, although when he casually ki blasted the moon it was during training, and his 'power level' was in the 400s (maybe, not gonna bother looking it up, dont care to defend DBZ enough, just pointing things out, either way 400/900s relatively miniscule in comparison to the 'power levels' later on in the series...jaja you got me discussing 'power levels',,so linear, so linear:roll:)
b@x)
Gokus perhaps alot faster than your letting off, although its not my perogative to 'defend' DBZ here, or 'defend' anything for that matter
The Immortal Watch Dog
11-25-2011, 07:27 PM
who gets the honor of killing Kabuto?
Rogue she can absorb all his chakra and life force and then use it to reverse what ever Edo's Hulk hasn't punted into one of the hell lords domains
I'm enjoying this thread.
MinatoXNaruto
11-25-2011, 07:58 PM
if a series require application of abc logic and powerscaling to get high end feats than it's a weak series with terrible evidence supporting it simple as that.
four hundred...more like 900+
reread my post carefully it's very clear I was referring to another poster and not you.
no he can't that's hilariously false Johnny and Hulk are faster than him and both can one shot him
and goku can't hurt colossus period now that he's the new juggernaut
Please Johnny Storm is equal to Nova Shenron
The Immortal Watch Dog
11-26-2011, 12:12 AM
Please Johnny Storm is equal to Nova Shenron
first of all GT isn't canon so no idea why you're bringing it up..secondly ermm no he isn't nova shenron sucked he had no feats backing up his heat and was all hyperbole
Johnny actually has produced near star level heat before and Goku in canon has never tanked anything like that.
lol friggen DBZ
Lord Jiraiya
11-26-2011, 04:05 AM
I understand were you guys are coming from on the marvel side. I love Marvel more then Naruto, but I also Know how I set the battle up. The rules state all members of the other side most be killed. ET's cant be kill normally.. Throwing them off the planet doesnt count as a win because the ET's wont be killed.
I'll agree if they weren't ET's the battle would be over in no time. Explan to me how there Souls get removed by Marvel with proven feats and this fight goes to marvel.
MinatoXNaruto
11-26-2011, 10:26 AM
first of all GT isn't canon so no idea why you're bringing it up..secondly ermm no he isn't nova shenron sucked he had no feats backing up his heat and was all hyperbole
Johnny actually has produced near star level heat before and Goku in canon has never tanked anything like that.
lol friggen DBZ
It doesn't matter if it's cannon or not. You're just a marvel fanboy. Johnny storm ain't ;);););). He can't even take silver surfer. Get out with your silly inane unproven ideas, you slog!
It doesn't matter if it's cannon or not. You're just a marvel fanboy. Johnny storm ain't ;);););). He can't even take silver surfer. Get out with your silly inane unproven idea, you slog!
NVM Surfer is one of the strongest beings Marvel has to offer right?
Like effortlessly breaking the Hulks Grip
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk109/DRDOOMSDAY-360/The%20Silver%20Surfer/talestoastonish92209yy7.jpg
or takes his Punches?
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3982/story2page02eq7.jpg
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4646/story2page03dn9.jpg
Or withstanding a Blast from Korvac?
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5937/avengersannual1619je3.jpg
Or travelling Lightyears in seconds?
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8551/ff41315hc7.jpg
And I am just scratching the surface.
Your saying Johnny is crap for being incapable of taking on HIM?
That only means the Surfer is much stronger than Human Torch nothing more.
Johnny is still strong in his own rights even if he can't take on who is "just" one of the most powerful beings in Fiction.
Watchdog ain't a Marvel "Fanboy" just because he knows much more about it than you.
Sounds more like you only watched the F4 Movies.
And I advise you to watch your language.
Rasengan SageX5
11-26-2011, 11:00 AM
Lord Jiraiya, I have heard that the Hulk can punch ghosts and astral forms and in the case of astral forms, send them back into their physical body. The fact that he can hit those things which have no physical form means that he can do the same to the souls of ET zombies if he hits them hard enough. MinatoXNaruto, it does matter because noncannon feats are labeled as unusable in these kind of debates because they aren't actually part of the original source( I learned that the hard way). When Johnny can produce and control flames that can match nova level stars, he can instantly incinerate any ET zombie and even if it doesn't kill them right off(which it might) it will keep them busy long enough for one of his teammates to back him up.
ILIKEPIE
11-26-2011, 11:46 AM
Sliver Surfer, Hulk, and Ghost Rider are Marvel's strongest heroes
The Immortal Watch Dog
11-26-2011, 08:08 PM
It doesn't matter if it's cannon or not.
so basically your openly admitting to trolling the forum then? because you can only use canon
You're just a marvel fanboy.
Johnny storm ain't ;);););).
i know more about dbz marvel and vs debating then you'll ever learn in your entire career. the mere fact that you replied like this validates that entirely
He can't even take silver surfer. Get out with your silly inane unproven ideas, you slog!
you realize the Silver surfer can destroy every one in the entire dbz universe instantly? that you brining that up only proves you're an ignorant clown with no concept of the universes being discussed here correct?
cnorwood
11-26-2011, 08:09 PM
Sliver Surfer, Hulk, and Ghost Rider are Marvel's strongest heroes
what? im sure non pis sentry can solo that team (i think)
ILIKEPIE
11-26-2011, 08:15 PM
never heard of Sentry before but I just looked him up yeah he is on that level too
The Immortal Watch Dog
11-27-2011, 12:57 AM
what? im sure non pis sentry can solo that team (i think)
even before his cosmic cube level power Sentry was capable of restraining the energies of a cosmic cube. He shattered a Herald of Galactus hand casually and got into a fight with a minor skyfather and casually created a super Saiyan style aura the size of a planet..the energies radiating off said aura were enough to bust multiple worlds.
He casually broke through Dr Stranges shields and had a nightmare from his head nearly kill the Hulk had Hulk crying on the floor..(basically WWH was pure nonsense Sentry could have murdered hulk easily)
Basically he's some one who prior to dark avengers..kill SBP in a fight he'd solo the DBZU
before his death he literally became the old testament god..a skyfather then went and beat down molecule man becoming a multiversal tier power house
ILIKEPIE
11-27-2011, 01:33 AM
Spiderman may be marvel's most famous hero but many of their other heroes can beat him in a fight
Lord Jiraiya
11-27-2011, 04:50 AM
ou must show proof of Hulk punching a soul out of a body. Other wise he cant do it.
cnorwood
11-27-2011, 01:09 PM
even before his cosmic cube level power Sentry was capable of restraining the energies of a cosmic cube. He shattered a Herald of Galactus hand casually and got into a fight with a minor skyfather and casually created a super Saiyan style aura the size of a planet..the energies radiating off said aura were enough to bust multiple worlds.
He casually broke through Dr Stranges shields and had a nightmare from his head nearly kill the Hulk had Hulk crying on the floor..(basically WWH was pure nonsense Sentry could have murdered hulk easily)
Basically he's some one who prior to dark avengers..kill SBP in a fight he'd solo the DBZU
before his death he literally became the old testament god..a skyfather then went and beat down molecule man becoming a multiversal tier power house
yea i thought he could i just didnt know if surfer had some hax i didnt know about
The Immortal Watch Dog
11-27-2011, 07:56 PM
ou must show proof of Hulk punching a soul out of a body. Other wise he cant do it.
your ignorance of a standard ability of the incredible hulks that he has been doing for decades..does not mean it isn't real
it just means you made a terrible thread and don't know what the hell your talking about.
In fact Hulk slapping around Ghosts and trolling them is usually one of the first scans posted on any respect thread because of how funny it usually looks. So it's not our job to provide you with something that can be easily looked for and that's common knowledge for any one worth his salt in debating against comics.
yea i thought he could i just didnt know if surfer had some hax i didnt know about
Well that was Sentry, and Surfer aint beating bob period pre CC Sentry would require PC Superman to beat down.
LOL Wow.
is this gonna be the same quality as "I'm a gun wielding martial arts expert that can kill Grizzly bears with Samurai swords' level post?
For one, how would they find Kabuto if they don't have the Physics?
physics? how does a scientific branch help people sniff out but snake medicine boy? You must mean psychics and in that case Storm can sense him out by manipulating the currents of the air and fudging around with the oxygen molecules in the air
Two, how would you kill them if they can't be killed in combat by natural deaths?
the new Juggernaut an avatar of cytorakk an ancient and powerful old god is here on the battlefield Colossus is the new juggy..there are many things the juggernaut can do that Cain was too stupid to do but Piotr isn't
Hulk has routinely punched out all manner of intangible beings souls included
Three, How can we even compare Naruto to Marvel? That's like saying Spawn can't beat Spryo the Dragon.
You can't compare the two Naruto is a tiny low level irrelevant universe compared to Marvel
Spiderman may be marvel's most famous hero but many of their other heroes can beat him in a fight
the irony is a street level guy like spiderman is faster then any one in the NU and Iron fist another SL is..basically above any one short of the kyuubi
and almost every one on the marvel side makes them look like insects by comparison.
Light&Day
11-28-2011, 03:35 AM
hulk?
genjutsu
or shisui could make him fight for them
full powered goku would bust the planet
321zigzag3
11-28-2011, 07:48 AM
Hulk has routinely punched out all manner of intangible beings souls included
For their benefit you should post some scans.
the irony is a street level guy like spiderman is faster then any one in the NU
Spiderman is supersonic+ at his best in movement speed? Now this I am curious/skeptical becaues I have never heard of this from anyone. Except you, I recall you said something about this in that Azula/Dai Li vs Spiderman thread or something like that.
If you want to talk in terms of sheer burst of agility coupled with spidersense then thats one thing.
and Iron fist another SL is..basically above any one short of the kyuubi
This is only if after he powers up in his dragon chi if I recall. Without any chi he is just a regular superhuman.
hulk?
genjutsu
or shisui could make him fight for them
Regular Genjutsu is nothing to Hulk, for he even resisted mind control many times. Shisui's eye won't do much I am afraid.
The only thing that grabs his attention is the World Wide Tsukiyomi Tobi wants to implement.
TheBlackChidori
11-28-2011, 02:46 PM
My link with Hulk's feats has gone unnoticed.
321zigzag3
11-28-2011, 04:30 PM
Feats of The Hulk
http://www.bamkapow.com/the-incredible-hulk-s-most-amazing-feats-1399-p.html
People need to see this.
There is also a youtube video on Ghost Rider vs World War Hulk.
TheBlackChidori
11-28-2011, 04:43 PM
I'd be interested in seeing that.
321zigzag3
11-28-2011, 04:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIcRnyMLj5I
ILIKEPIE
11-28-2011, 05:19 PM
Ghost Rider is awesome
The Immortal Watch Dog
11-29-2011, 11:29 PM
For their benefit you should post some scans.[]
45 page respect thread and a hundred plus gigs on my own machine..I'm not keen on going through either..for such a ermm..threaf
Spiderman is supersonic+ at his best in movement speed? Now this I am curious/skeptical becaues I have never heard of this from anyone. Except you, I recall you said something about this in that Azula/Dai Li vs Spiderman thread or something like that.
that was Wilson Fisk vs Mai and Tai Lee or Itachi vs Spiderman or that failure of a thread where some guy went all butthurt and tried to downplay SM's lighting timing
If you want to talk in terms of sheer burst of agility coupled with spidersense then thats one thing.
he's low hypersonic coupled with precog that allows him to aim time lasers
This is only if after he powers up in his dragon chi if I recall. Without any chi he is just a regular superhuman.
that while depowered can pwn the wrecking crew a team that tends to require hercules or luke cage to put down..or totally make Pete look useless even while depowered
The only thing that grabs his attention is the World Wide Tsukiyomi Tobi wants to implement.
still wouldn't be enough honestly
My link with Hulk's feats has gone unnoticed.
that was a good site
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