View Full Version : Can Sasuke still use Kirin?
megabbaut
10-29-2011, 04:33 PM
I've been thinking, and it kinda got to me. Let's look at the facts.
1) Sasuke needed Great Dragon Flames to prep Kirin
2) Sasuke needed his CS2 form to use Great Dragon Flame
3) Ammy increased the power of Great Dragon Flame
4) Sasuke does not have the curse mark anymore, so he cannot go CS2 anymore. Therefore, he can't use Dragon Flames anymore.
5) Ammy alone does not affect the weather, so it cannot be used for Kirin prep.
6) Sasuke did not use Kirin during the Kage Summit.
If he could use any fire technique to prep Kirin, then why did he have to go through all the trouble of going CS2 and using Great Dragon Flames? Even if he is still able to use it, then why didn't he use it on Danzo of all people? Just like with Itachi, Sasuke was bloodlusted and filled with hatred, but he still hasn't used it since the Itachi fight. The fire techniques he used on Danzo didn't affect the weather at all, not even Ammy.
Any thoughts?
Noctis Arashi
10-29-2011, 04:34 PM
Proof he requires CS2 at this point, or any other point to use Great Dragon Flames.
megabbaut
10-29-2011, 04:42 PM
Proof he requires CS2 at this point, or any other point to use Great Dragon Flames.
Well he's never used Great Dragon Flames in base, and has only used it in CS2, so it must be assumed Great Dragon Flame is CS2 enhanced fire jutsu.
Nick Tasogare
10-29-2011, 04:47 PM
Well he's never used Great Dragon Flames in base, and has only used it in CS2, so it must be assumed Great Dragon Flame is CS2 enhanced fire jutsu.
He used it during the Forest of Death? Unless that was only the anime.
megabbaut
10-29-2011, 04:49 PM
He used it during the Forest of Death? Unless that was only the anime.
You're confusing Dragon Flame with Great Dragon Flame. They're two different jutsus. Notice how the former isn't in the shape of a dragon head.
Kuromaki
10-30-2011, 03:26 PM
He needed his CS2 form because he needed a boost, but he had just spent his time fighting off Itachi, so that could be why.
It would exhaust his chakra either way though, because he has to spread Amaterasu over a wide area as well as use a couple dragon flames to get the right weather conditions to use Kirin.
Overall it takes too much time and effort which is probably why he'd rather use his mangekyo sharingan :lol:
Rasengan SageX5
10-30-2011, 09:15 PM
I'm sure he can still use Kirin, its just that it takes him way too long to set up in the middle of a fight so unless he has a huge opening in an upcoming fight, we may never see him use it again.
UchihaXSasuke
11-07-2011, 08:39 AM
I've been thinking, and it kinda got to me. Let's look at the facts.
1) Sasuke needed Great Dragon Flames to prep Kirin
2) Sasuke needed his CS2 form to use Great Dragon Flame
3) Ammy increased the power of Great Dragon Flame
4) Sasuke does not have the curse mark anymore, so he cannot go CS2 anymore. Therefore, he can't use Dragon Flames anymore.
5) Ammy alone does not affect the weather, so it cannot be used for Kirin prep.
6) Sasuke did not use Kirin during the Kage Summit.
If he could use any fire technique to prep Kirin, then why did he have to go through all the trouble of going CS2 and using Great Dragon Flames? Even if he is still able to use it, then why didn't he use it on Danzo of all people? Just like with Itachi, Sasuke was bloodlusted and filled with hatred, but he still hasn't used it since the Itachi fight. The fire techniques he used on Danzo didn't affect the weather at all, not even Ammy.
Any thoughts?
kirin can be used if there are thunder clouds
thunders clouds can be createad by heating the atmosphere
any technique that can heat up the atmosfere can be used
amaterasu ,great fireball,etc...
he didn't used it at the kage meeting because there was no contact with the sky and kishimoto wanted to focus on MS abilities
my second thought is that he can use kirin without prep
how?
in the same way he almost used it against team 7
the diference is that
at team 7 kirin required a massive amount of chakra that sasuke already had
he was using his chakra to control the electrons in the sky
when he was fighting itachi
he had almost no chakra left so he couldn't use that preparation
so he used the whetear in his favour
he heatead up the atmosphere to create thunder storm clouds
at least a theory
Light&Day
11-07-2011, 09:28 AM
of course he can
+ if the wheather is properly for kirin than sasuke could use it without prep
Maruko
11-07-2011, 10:05 AM
He can use Kirin but i needs a lot of preparations first,first of all you need a storm going on.
PS he's got EMS now so Kirin isn't needed (read-Susanoo will ;);););) everything up)
strawberry shortcake
11-07-2011, 10:36 AM
Maybe :)
mizukage_sama
11-07-2011, 06:30 PM
Yeah, I think since he now has the eternal mangekyo sharingan, kirin is obsolete. It takes too long to prepare. And I'm sure Kishi has a bunch of new flashier techniques for his golden boy
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