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Yori
10-23-2011, 04:36 PM
Non ET.

Muu starts off in the sky & is visible to Kakashi & Gai
The Mizukage has his clam already out

Starting Distance - 30m
Location - Where the current fight is happening
Knowledge - Muu & The Miz knows of Gai's speed in Gates, Kakashi & Gai knows of Jinton & Jokey Boy
Restrictions - Kamui

Super Sanin 3
10-23-2011, 04:53 PM
Alright i'll bite, but honestly this is heavily stacked in team 1's favor imo

They have no knowledge, which would mean they won't see through the mirage straight back. Jokey Boy + dust release will end this quickly

Vivi
10-23-2011, 05:02 PM
Well Muu's invisibility is useless here that much is certain due to Sharingan, as proven with Obito vs Taiseki.

Question remains if that also works against Mizukage's Clam Genjutsu.

However:
With Kamui restricted Kakashi got pretty much nothing against Muu though I suppose that depends how high Muu is flying.

That only leaves Guy with Gates having an increased jumping capability though in order to hit Kakashi would have to tell him direction.

With the Trollkage being around all the while that makes this difficult though especially with Genjutsu and Jokey Boy Combo.

As soon as the Clam activates the Genjutsu it might be over depending on if Kakashi can see through it.

Also taking in note:
OP didn't say Guy and Kakashi have knowledge on the 2.
So I need to ask:
Is Muu so high in the Air that Kakashi and Guy don't see him or is he visible to them?

Super Sanin 3
10-23-2011, 05:08 PM
Wasn't there byakugan users in the war? I'm not sure if the Sharingan can see it as it erases chakra, it's possible though

I feel that Guy and Kakashi are a bit out of their league here, they don't even know to slow down the clone. And they can't really stop it, it's faster than both of them as it evaded Gaara's sand

Yori
10-23-2011, 05:12 PM
OP edited Vivi

Sagepain
10-23-2011, 05:15 PM
Well Muu's invisibility is useless here that much is certain due to Sharingan, as proven with Obito vs Taiseki.


Isin't Mu known as the Non-person a title which he gained for apparently having neither form or chakra while his camouflage technique was in effect?

It seems that only physical detection type techniques could find him like Gaara's Sand detection jutsu.

Vivi
10-23-2011, 08:16 PM
Isin't Mu known as the Non-person a title which he gained for apparently having neither form or chakra while camouflage technique was in effect?

It seems that only physical detection type techniques could find him like Gaara's Sand detection jutsu.

Sensing Chakra.Keyword: Sensing

Sharingan sees Chakra Flow not sense.

And in no way can it be a coincidence that Muu has a Camouflage Jutsu while during Gaiden we saw Taiseki using the same.

Kakashi even noted that Taiseki could only be tracked by Air Currents and Sound everything else was gone even his smell.

Obito was the one who saw his Chakra Flow with..... you guessed it:
Sharingan.

And about Gaaras Sand:
Its sensing Sand.Muu stepped on it and Gaara noticed as well as Footprints being visible.
So physical presence is there.
And with physical Presence there is Chakra Flow.

OP edited Vivi

Thanks.
If he's visible and suddenly vanishes out of experiences Kakashi should know that it's an invisibility Jutsu and immediately goes Sharingan.

Not that it helps cause as said:
Only Guy can hurt him with his jumping ability and Kakashi would have to give direction WHILE being busy against the Mizukage's trolling tactics with the Clam and Jokey Boy.

Pretty much impossible.