Argument Questions

[heroeking]

Okay so, there are people in particular who continously troll with the same argument. So here they are:

1.Sage Naruto can make rasenshuriken faster than Sasuke can ammy.

2.Sage Naruto can dodge ammy.

3.Sage Naruto can catch susano'o arrows and throw them back.

4.Sasuke can't ammy form 50 yards.

All of this is at 50yards.

Tell me what you think. I'm against every one of these assumptions.

[Super Sanin 3]

I'm against 1 and 3 but SM Naruto may be able to dodge ammy with knowledge considering his sensory, but c'mon this is a flamebait thread

[heroeking]

I'm against 1 and 3 but SM Naruto may be able to dodge ammy with knowledge considering his sensory, but c'mon this is a flamebait thread

The trolling is atrocious like literally. When has sage mode Naruto shown speed or reaction feats to dodge ammy. Considering it took V2 Raikage to dodge it.

[Super Sanin 3]

He can sense danger with Frog Kata in SM like versus the Third Raikage. If you can sense it than you don't have to have reflexes on par with the Fourth Raikage

[heroeking]

He can sense danger with Frog Kata in SM like versus the Third Raikage. If you can sense it than you don't have to have reflexes on par with the Fourth Raikage

That still doesn't make you fast enough to react to ammy. Unless you're saying Sage Naruto is faster than v2 Raikage.

[Super Sanin 3]

That still doesn't make you fast enough to react to ammy. Unless you're saying Sage Naruto is faster than v2 Raikage.
Why not? If you can sense the attack coming you don't have to be as fast as him. If that were the case what's the point of using Frog Kata in such a way?

[heroeking]

Why not? If you can sense the attack coming you don't have to be as fast as him. If that were the case what's the point of using Frog Kata in such a way?

Going by your logic many people in the Narutoverse should be able to dodge ammy.

Show me chapter and page where Naruto has shown reaction feats or speed feats to Dodge ammy.

Frog Kata is attacking with sage energy.

[Super Sanin 3]

No he uses it in defense like the Third Raikage, and which do you suppose would dodge Ammy? So what's the point of Naruto using Frog Kata to dodge the Third's attack if it makes no difference? Attacking is just part of Frog Kata

[Ultimate combatant]

When Sasuke fought Itachi, he managed to evade Amaterasu for a short time, then he was caught by Amaterasu, of course. But, if Sasuke could do it, then Sage mode Naruto shouldn`t have trouble with it since he is much faster than Sasuke!!! :D

If you still disagree, please tell.

[heroeking]

No he uses it in defense like the Third Raikage, and which do you suppose would dodge Ammy? So what's the point of Naruto using Frog Kata to dodge the Third's attack if it makes no difference? Attacking is just part of Frog Kata

Still doesn't make his abilities great enough to dodge ammy.

[heroeking]

When Sasuke fought Itachi, he managed to evade Amaterasu for a short time, then he was caught by Amaterasu, of course. But, if Sasuke could do it, then Sage mode Naruto shouldn`t have trouble with it since he is much faster than Sasuke!!! :D

If you still disagree, please tell.

That was genjutsu.

[Apollo Justice]

Hmmm.... I thought the only Genjutsu was when he took his eyes.

[heroeking]

Hmmm.... I thought the only Genjutsu was when he took his eyes.

Sasuke wasn't even on the roof. All of that was genjutsu until sasuke uses great dragon fire jutsu to bust holes through the ceiling.

[Ultimate combatant]

Well, Itachi used Amaterasu after that, when they were on the roof!!! :D

[heroeking]

Well, Itachi used Amaterasu after that, when they were on the roof!!! :D

No he didn't. After sasuke shot fireballs, he got on top of the roof. The only other technique iTachi used was susano'o.

[Super Sanin 3]

No it wasn't genjutsu Sasuke used oral rebirth to go down

[Ultimate combatant]

No he didn't. After sasuke shot fireballs, he got on top of the roof. The only other technique iTachi used was susano'o.

Are you sure? After they got on roof, Itachi used Amaterasu, Sasuke tried to escape but failed. He was burned by Amaterasu, but used oral rebirth, leaving his old body behind and hiding in the building. He then expected Itachi to attack his burning "body". When that happened Sasuke tried to surprise attack him with fire, which Itachi anticipated and countered. Soon after that, the fire and Amaterasu changed the weather and Sasuke used Kirin. Itachi used Susanoo from then on in the fight, until the very end!!! :D

[heroeking]

Are you sure? After they got on roof, Itachi used Amaterasu, Sasuke tried to escape but failed. He was burned by Amaterasu, but used oral rebirth, leaving his old body behind and hiding in the building. He then expected Itachi to attack his burning "body". When that happened Sasuke tried to surprise attack him with fire, which Itachi anticipated and countered. Soon after that, the fire and Amaterasu changed the weather and Sasuke used Kirin. Itachi used Susanoo from then on in the fight, until the very end!!! :D

Sasuke never used oral rebirth.

[Ultimate combatant]

Sasuke never used oral rebirth.

Now I lost you. Three times in a row you corrected me about what happened during Sasuke vs Itachi. All three times, I`m quite certain you were wrong, an opinion supported by other people who post here.

Now, third time you say he never used oral rebirth. I`d understand you if you didn`t know what oral rebirth technique is, but the fact that you know what it is... And you still claim Sasuke never used it. This looks much like trolling.
I`m not sure whether you really are trolling, or you just don`t remember what happened during their fight. I don`t know yet.

In case you are not trolling (which I`d like to believe), I suggest explaining to us what happened. Did you confuse this fight with some other fight, or is this simply joke thread or something?

I won`t mind, whatever it is, as long as you are telling the truth!!! :D

[heroeking]

Now I lost you. Three times in a row you corrected me about what happened during Sasuke vs Itachi. All three times, I`m quite certain you were wrong, an opinion supported by other people who post here.

Now, third time you say he never used oral rebirth. I`d understand you if you didn`t know what oral rebirth technique is, but the fact that you know what it is... And you still claim Sasuke never used it. This looks much like trolling.
I`m not sure whether you really are trolling, or you just don`t remember what happened during their fight. I don`t know yet.

In case you are not trolling (which I`d like to believe), I suggest explaining to us what happened. Did you confuse this fight with some other fight, or is this simply joke thread or something?

I won`t mind, whatever it is, as long as you are telling the truth!!! :D

Give me the chapter and page where Sasuke used Oral rebirth.

[Ultimate combatant]

Chapter 390, Page 9 if I`m not mistaken!!! :D

[heroeking]

Chapter 390, Page 9 if I`m not mistaken!!! :D


That was because of Orochimaru's seal....Sasuke doesn't have it anymore. Itachi was hurt and going blind, add that with the fact he wasn't trying to kill sasuke in the first place.

[Ultimate combatant]

Yes, what you said is true, but Sage mode Naruto is much faster than Sasuke!!! :D

[heroeking]

Yes, what you said is true, but Sage mode Naruto is much faster than Sasuke!!! :D

I'm not posting anymore, the trolling is ridiculous.

[Super Sanin 3]

^.-...

[megabbaut]

Yeah well denying MS and EMS being related to the Sharingan says a lot.

[Uchiha Sora]

^Whoa ther language buddy

[Ultimate combatant]

I'm not posting anymore, the trolling is ridiculous.

You stated Sasuke never used Oral rebirth, I proved you wrong. And you say:

That was because of Orochimaru's seal....Sasuke doesn't have it anymore. Itachi was hurt and going blind, add that with the fact he wasn't trying to kill sasuke in the first place.

And then you implicate I am the one trolling. Sorry, but I`d have to say that while trolling truly is ridicilous, it`s definitely not me trolling.

Furthermore, if there is any statement I made bothering you, let me quote my first post in this thread:

When Sasuke fought Itachi, he managed to evade Amaterasu for a short time, then he was caught by Amaterasu, of course. But, if Sasuke could do it, then Sage mode Naruto shouldn`t have trouble with it since he is much faster than Sasuke!!! :D

If you still disagree, please tell.

Note my last sentence in quote above.

Also, I made a statement about Sasuke`s speed compared to Sage mode Naruto`s once before, on previous page. The first time it didn`t bother you, the second time you call it trolling because I proved your other statements wrong (with Manga chapter and page).

[heroeking]

^Whoa ther language buddy

If they let people troll day end and day out. It shouldn't matter.

[heroeking]

You stated Sasuke never used Oral rebirth, I proved you wrong. And you say:



And then you implicate I am the one trolling. Sorry, but I`d have to say that while trolling truly is ridicilous, it`s definitely not me trolling.

Furthermore, if there is any statement I made bothering you, let me quote my first post in this thread:



Note my last sentence in quote above.

Also, I made a statement about Sasuke`s speed compared to Sage mode Naruto`s once before, on previous page. The first time it didn`t bother you, the second time you call it trolling because I proved your other statements wrong (with Manga chapter and page).

I wasn't referring to you. And Sasuke>Sage Naruto in speed.

[Apollo Justice]

I never said that, you hoopdadooplin' dumbass.
Dude seriously as if one time wasn't enough?

Yes, what you said is true, but Sage mode Naruto is much faster than Sasuke!!! :D

I don't know if I would say he's much faster then Sasuke but he has increased his speed and reaction feats a lot in that Mode. So he is faster than Sasuke but I just wouldn't say much.

^Whoa ther language buddy

He just insulted the same member the exact way in the last thread he just doesn't get it. :lol:

[Bacon]

Okay so, there are people in particular who continously troll with the same argument. So here they are:

1.Sage Naruto can make rasenshuriken faster than Sasuke can ammy.

2.Sage Naruto can dodge ammy.

3.Sage Naruto can catch susano'o arrows and throw them back.

4.Sasuke can't ammy form 50 yards.

All of this is at 50yards.

Tell me what you think. I'm against every one of these assumptions.
Why are y'all so fixated on trying to prove what you cannot prove?

[heroeking]

Dude seriously as if one time wasn't enough?



I don't know if I would say he's much faster then Sasuke but he has increased his speed and reaction feats a lot in that Mode. So he is faster than Sasuke but I just wouldn't say much.



He just insulted the same member the exact way in the last thread he just doesn't get it. :lol:


How many times am I going to tell you????

[TheBlackChidori]

Example #1 = Heroeking

[Apollo Justice]

I can't believe he actually attempted to justify his reason for insulting another member.

That's just wrong!

[Ultimate combatant]

And Sasuke>Sage Naruto in speed.

Sasuke at the beginning of part 2 really was much faster than Naruto, but recently Sasuke and Naruto have been shown to have around same speed in base. Sage mode Naruto is much faster than base Naruto, so there.

[[Shikamaru]]

Sasuke at the beginning of part 2 really was much faster than Naruto, but recently Sasuke and Naruto have been shown to have around same speed in base. Sage mode Naruto is much faster than base Naruto, so there.
Not at all,

Chapter and page where Naruto blitzed Raikage in base. Because Sasuke did it.

Actually, Raikage was countering RM Naruto, his fastest form, in base, and V1.