Kakuzu vs 2 Asuma

[Ultimate combatant]

Kakuzu has to face two Asuma`s.

Kakuzu is not Edo Tensei, neither is Asuma.

Who wins? :D

[Definitely Not TU :maybe]

Chap 334, pages 12-13, and chap 334 pages 15 and 16. Then there's the katon somewhere but I think that answers this thread.
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Chap 334, pages 12-13, and chap 334 pages 15 and 16. Then there's the katon somewhere but I think that answers this thread.
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What are you saying?

[megabbaut]

What are you saying?
Pretty sure he's talking about how deadly Kakuzu's elemental attacks are.

[[Shikamaru]]

Pretty sure he's talking about how deadly Kakuzu's elemental attacks are.
Well the fact Kakashi was able to dodge them alone, for an extended amount of time while being pressured by sonic Hidan, they don't seem too deadly to me.

However, Asuma does not know about Kakuzu immortality, so he'll be caught off guard, just like he was with Hidan.

The chances Asuma is able to brush that blindside off, and survive all the hearts doesn't seem very logical.

With knowledge this might be different.

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Pretty sure he's talking about how deadly Kakuzu's elemental attacks are.

Ok alright.

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However, Asuma does not know about Kakuzu immortality, so he'll be caught off guard, just like he was with Hidan.

The chances Asuma is able to brush that blindside off, and survive all the hearts doesn't seem very logical.

With knowledge this might be different.

Base Kakuzu is more than enough for 2 Asuma although his Trench Knives should easily cut them but once they bind its over.

As for knowledge well the worst case scenario think of is that they manage somehow to force Kakuzu to release his hearts.

And that the worst case scenario of that would be that one of the Asuma somehow distracts and the other unleashes Ash cloud and somehow detonates all the hearts whom are very close together.

But the chance is just very non existent.

[[Shikamaru]]

Ok alright.



Base Kakuzu is more than enough for 2 Asuma although his Trench Knives should easily cut them but once they bind its over.

As for knowledge well the worst case scenario think of is that they manage somehow to force Kakuzu to release his hearts.

And that the worst case scenario of that would be that one of the Asuma somehow distracts and the other unleashes Ash cloud and somehow detonates all the hearts whom are very close together.

But the chance is just very non existent.
No.

Base Kakuzu is equal if not slower than Asuma in speed features.

There is absolutely no way base Kakuzu can avoid death without hearts. Kakuzu was blitzed by two chunin ninja using a water glue technique. He diverted to Iron Skin to save his own life.

Kakuzu, is by all means, a very easy blindside target.

His foot speed is anything but impressive for a member of the Akatsuki.

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;5604249']No..

Not really.

Base Kakuzu is equal if not slower than Asuma in speed features..

How did you get that? Kakuzu was fast enough to blitz Kakashi a very close quarters. (when Kakuzu was down)

There is absolutely no way base Kakuzu can avoid death without hearts.

Now that I think about it. Its possible.

Kakuzu was blitzed by two chunin ninja using a water glue technique. .
In that fight he wasn't blitzed at all. He just got trapped by the sticky water then he stomped the two chunin.

He diverted to Iron Skin to save his own life..

That was during a Crow Genjutsu.

Kakuzu, is by all means, a very easy blindside target..
His foot speed is anything but impressive for a member of the Akatsuki.[/QUOTE]

He was easily countering up to 3 Kyuubi Naruto clones moving at him.
He had enough reaction to pace up that although he had hearts out then.

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Not really.



How did you get that? Kakuzu was fast enough to blitz Kakashi a very close quarters. (when Kakuzu was down)



Now that I think about it. Its possible.


In that fight he wasn't blitzed at all. He just got trapped by the sticky water then he stomped the two chunin.



That was during a Crow Genjutsu.


His foot speed is anything but impressive for a member of the Akatsuki.

He was easily countering up to 3 Kyuubi Naruto clones moving at him.
He had enough reaction to pace up that although he had hearts out then.[/QUOTE]

Stomped the two chunin? He was nearly killed by the chunin, one of them was able to set up a water release while the other captured his attention. Are you even considering the fact that Asuma cannot and will not blindside him with ease?

He didn't blitz Kakashi at all. Chapter and page.

Hearts don't increase movement and reaction for Kakuzu, in or out.

Kakuzu's perception abilities are terrible. He was unable to recognize the chunin were setting up a trap, he couldn't recognize Naruto jumping above him and he was unable to recognize Kakashi sneaky behind him and killing him.

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He was easily countering up to 3 Kyuubi Naruto clones moving at him.
He had enough reaction to pace up that although he had hearts out then.

And kyuubi Naruto is supposed to be quite fast you know? But to be fair I will give Asuma more credit since that Asuma is a taijutsu oriented guy he should have good speed and that you are saying it because its two bot one.

Because if you said only one asuma outpaces kakuzu then something is very wrong here.

Stomped the two chunin? He was nearly killed by the chunin, one of them was able to set up a water release while the other captured his attention.

Let see here the sticky water lands and Kakuzu being his usual arrogant self gets his feet stuck. So he unleashes his threads and fists, tangles up the two chunin.

Seems like a stomp to me.

Are you even considering the fact that Asuma cannot and will not blindside him with ease?

I will do it more now.

He didn't blitz Kakashi at all. Chapter and page.

Go to narutobase.net
Chapter 334 Page 3-5

Hearts don't increase movement and reaction for Kakuzu, in or out.

No but it increases your offense.

Kakuzu's perception abilities are terrible. He was unable to recognize the chunin were setting up a trap

Not so much, he is just arrogant. Then again, Sasori especially Deidara and Kisame were more perceptive than Kakuzu.

Then again Kakuzu was able to counter Shikamaru's prepped trap.

he couldn't recognize Naruto jumping above him and he was unable to recognize Kakashi sneaky behind him and killing him.

The Naruto part was pretty stupid for a 90 year old guy.

As for Kakashi, its a testament to his improved speed that even Tobi later praised Kakashi of.

And of course Kakuzu was distracted and Kakashi was stealthy enough to be not detected normally.

[[Shikamaru]]

And kyuubi Naruto is supposed to be quite fast you know? But to be fair I will give Asuma more credit since that Asuma is a taijutsu oriented guy he should have good speed and that you are saying it because its two bot one.

Because if you said only one asuma outpaces kakuzu then something is very wrong here.



Let see here the sticky water lands and Kakuzu being his usual arrogant self gets his feet stuck. So he unleashes his threads and fists, tangles up the two chunin.

Seems like a stomp to me.



I will do it more now.



Go to narutobase.net
Chapter 334 Page 3-5



No but it increases your offense.



Not so much, he is just arrogant. Then again, Sasori especially Deidara and Kisame were more perceptive than Kakuzu.

Then again Kakuzu was able to counter Shikamaru's prepped trap.



The Naruto part was pretty stupid for a 90 year old guy.

As for Kakashi, its a testament to his improved speed that even Tobi later praised Kakashi of.

And of course Kakuzu was distracted and Kakashi was stealthy enough to be not detected normally.
Then he gets killed due to arrogance again.

He didn't blitz Kakashi. Kakashi began running toward Hidan after he believed Kakuzu was dead. Kakuzu leaped up while Kakashi wasn't paying attention and kicked him. Which did not hurt him at all. Not a blitz, this is a blindside, which is how Kakuzu will die. He's slow. Bottom line.

How does Asuma not distract Kakuzu? Is he dramatically less skilled in Taijutsu or speed than Kakashi? No, he's around equal. So there's no way he can evade an initial blindside blitz.

Not a stomp. He was caught in the trap, and if Asuma had been there while Kakuzu was captured in water glue, Kakuzu would now be dead, horribly, dead.

In other words,
being caught by two chunin in a kiddy water glue technique < 2 Jonin Asuma blitzing

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He didn't blitz Kakashi. Kakashi began running toward Hidan after he believed Kakuzu was dead. Kakuzu leaped up while Kakashi wasn't paying attention and kicked him. Which did not hurt him at all. Not a blitz, this is a blindside, which is how Kakuzu will die. He's slow. Bottom line.

It is true that Kakuzu failed to blitz Shikamaru that time.

Although in that situation. Kakuzu was able to stand up right in front of Kakashi, and kick Kakashi while Kakashi did start dashing at full speed.

Kakuzu did that in front of him. I am thinking it may be shunshin now but still. His thread speed is fast too.

How does Asuma not distract Kakuzu? Is he dramatically less skilled in Taijutsu or speed than Kakashi? No, he's around equal. So there's no way he can evade an initial blindside blitz.

Maybe not especially to an IC Kakuzu although Doton: Domu should be able to defend himself.

Not a stomp. He was caught in the trap, and if Asuma had been there while Kakuzu was captured in water glue, Kakuzu would now be dead, horribly, dead.

If you want to be painfully more specific.
Yes they put up a resistance with the sticky water trap.
But at the same time Kakuzu immediately literally grappled them with his Jiongu and defeated them right there.

So it is a stomp. The chunin lacked anything at all. The water was just an annoyance.

In fact even the Crow genjutsu and another ninja doing a frontal attack through the genjutsu attempted to attack Kakuzu but failed because of Doton: Domu

[Kioroshi.]

Of course Kakuzu would win against 2 Asuma.

Hidan was more than a match for 1 asuma.And we all know that Kakuzu is 10 times more powerfull than weakling Hidan.

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Of course Kakuzu would win against 2 Asuma.

Hidan was more than a match for 1 asuma.And we all know that Kakuzu is 10 times more powerfull than weakling Hidan.
What? LOLOL

Hidan > Kakuzu

Speed features obviously prove this one.

Did you even read the debate?

[Kioroshi.]

What? LOLOL

Hidan > Kakuzu

Speed features obviously prove this one.

Did you even read the debate?


LOL I can't believe this "Hidan>Kakuzu"

You actually say that Hidan is stronger!?OMG I can't believe this guy.

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LOL I can't believe this "Hidan>Kakuzu"

You actually say that Hidan is stronger!?OMG I can't believe this guy.
How old are you?

Is your brain developed?

Give me a page and chapter where Kakuzu paces with transonic Kakashi, because Hidan did.

Give me a page and chapter where Kakuzu dodged Shadow Sewing while pressured by Asuma.

Give me a page and chapter where Kakuzu evades ANYTHING.

Hidan > Kakuzu in speed, reaction

[Kioroshi.]

How old are you?

Is your brain developed?

Give me a page and chapter where Kakuzu paces with transonic Kakashi, because Hidan did.

Give me a page and chapter where Kakuzu dodged Shadow Sewing while pressured by Asuma.

Give me a page and chapter where Kakuzu evades ANYTHING.

Hidan > Kakuzu in speed, reaction


Idk which chapter because I didn't read Manga that time I wathced that fight through anime.

Ok first:Kakuzu dodged shadow sewing in episode 85 I think.He isn't pressured by asuma because he is already dead.

second:kakuzu beat up kakashi in taijutsu in episode 85 also (he hit him 2 times and then he threw him to some tree)

Third:did kakuzu got defeated by shikamaru?chunin from hidden leaf.And another thing,hidan is brainless.

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Idk which chapter because I didn't read Manga that time I wathced that fight through anime.

Ok first:Kakuzu dodged shadow sewing in episode 85 I think.He isn't pressured by asuma because he is already dead.

second:kakuzu beat up kakashi in taijutsu in episode 85 also (he hit him 2 times and then he threw him to some tree)

Third:did kakuzu got defeated by shikamaru?chunin from hidden leaf.And another thing,hidan is brainless.
Nothing after this matters.

Hidan dodged shadow sewing while being pressured by Asuma, mind you this is difficult.

Kakuzu blindsided Kakashi and kicked him after Kakashi stabbed him in the heart with Lightning blade, seemingly already dead. Not a feature.

[Kioroshi.]

Nothing after this matters.

Hidan dodged shadow sewing while being pressured by Asuma, mind you this is difficult.

Kakuzu blindsided Kakashi and kicked him after Kakashi stabbed him in the heart with Lightning blade, seemingly already dead. Not a feature.


Not that I ment the other taijutsu fight they had.And kakashi blindsided Kakuzu too ;)

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Not that I ment the other taijutsu fight they had.And kakashi blindsided Kakuzu too ;)
What are you talking about?

They never had a taijutsu fight.

Chapter, page where they did.

So you literally just agreed your only feature was a blindside, so you now have nothing.

[Kioroshi.]

What are you talking about?

They never had a taijutsu fight.

Chapter, page where they did.

So you literally just agreed your only feature was a blindside, so you now have nothing.


IDK about chapter and page.Watch episode 85 (shippuden ofc)
and they had a taijutsu fight I think around 10th minute.

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IDK about chapter and page.Watch episode 85 (shippuden ofc)
and they had a taijutsu fight I think around 10th minute.
The anime is non-cannon.

We debate manga, so YOU need to check if it's in the manga.