Long Distance Tier Debate: Kakuzu vs Sasori

[J-Sun Tasogare]

So how does this go?

[Super Sanin 3]

Well I think Kakuzu would find Sasori first due to experience. I'll assume he's in Hiruko here, in that case it shouldn't be too hard to deal with due to the defense and strength Iron Skin gives Kakuzu. Then Sasori pulls out the all mighty 3rd Kazekage. This makes Kakuzu tense up a bit, and would be prepared to dodge the initial blitz. From that point Kakuzu draws out his hearts, except the earth heart due to knowledge of the posion (it's kind of obvious looking at the weapons). Even with Iron Sand i don't think Sasori can block all the elemental attacks

[J-Sun Tasogare]

He doesn't need to start in Hiruko, I mean given his intelligence he isn't going to hike around 10 miles in Hiruko.

[Super Sanin 3]

Then just scratch the Hiruko part X_X he'd either start with 3rd Kazekage or his puppet body, probably 3rd Kazekage (plus he DID go way over 10 miles in Hiruko)

[321zigzag3]

Iron Sand vs 4 Elemental Blasts.

This is pretty much the main focus here.

[Super Sanin 3]

More like 3 since Kakuzu would keep Earth to himself. IMO the tentacles that the masks are made up of should give them extended agility, it dodged Chojis attack and only Kakashi was able to realize they escaped and they got like a meter away from them without the team being able to react

[321zigzag3]

I was including water.

Sasori is far away so he doesn't have to worry about pulling a Chouji.

[J-Sun Tasogare]

I think the main issue is whether Kakuzu can kill the main heart. If he can figure out it's his heart before hand he can thread assassinate him. Though Kakuzu has an advantage; Large attacks that can take out puppets easily, and Iron Skin so posion can't effect him. I'd be willing to ask if there is anything Sasori has that can hurt him aside Iron Sand.

[Super Sanin 3]

But this is when they meet up, plus the woods give extra protection + chances to attack. With multiple enemies, the trees give proportional benefits. Being a puppet master, Sasori is long-ranged based, it's not good if he gets cornered, especially since wood is flammable.
BTW i didn't know he had a water heart X_X
^Posion gas?

[J-Sun Tasogare]

But this is when they meet up, plus the woods give extra protection + chances to attack. With multiple enemies, the trees give proportional benefits. Being a puppet master, Sasori is long-ranged based, it's not good if he gets cornered, especially since wood is flammable.
BTW i didn't know he had a water heart X_X
^Posion gas?

Does Kakuzu even breathe? He's basically a dead body with a new heart.

[321zigzag3]

I think the main issue is whether Kakuzu can kill the main heart. If he can figure out it's his heart before hand he can thread assassinate him. Though Kakuzu has an advantage; Large attacks that can take out puppets easily, and Iron Skin so posion can't effect him. I'd be willing to ask if there is anything Sasori has that can hurt him aside Iron Sand.

Large Scale Iron Sand jutsus.

The giant blocks.
Iron Sand Drizzle
Iron Sand World Order.

Dangerous to the heart monsters too

Does Kakuzu even breathe? He's basically a dead body with a new heart.

A ragdoll.

His organs and such the rest of the body are turned into raglike threads or something I think.

[J-Sun Tasogare]

Yeah he doesn't need to breathe.

The only two attacks from Iron Sand that need to be worried about is World Order and drizzle, the blocks can easily be tanked (by the main body) or avoided.

[321zigzag3]

We don't know about the breathing. Its unknown.

[J-Sun Tasogare]

Isn't his mouth like stiched closed?

[Super Sanin 3]

I'm not sure but i'm gonna jot down their move sets for the lolz
Kakuzuis an S-Ranked Ninja and part of the Akatsuki. He has many, many years of experience and above-average intelligence to boot. His speed and reactions are above average as well. Using tentacles, Kakuzu can extend his arms and even take them off at will, giving extra range and surprise benefits. His main feature are his elemental masks, which independently attack the opponent and act as extra lives. These jutsu are very powerful, having Kakashi being forced to use 2 raikiris to equal the lightning mask's jutsu. The Earth mask gives him extreme defense and strength, able to take most physical attacks with ease and having strength to destroy the iron gate with ease. The fire and wind attacks also give great displays of power, especially when combined to make an even larger explosion. When in distress, Kakuzu can make the masks form with him to transform into a being that uses tentacles to grab hold of his opponent, have additional movement variety and use the mask's attacks at the same time. His main battle scheme is to either kill or flank the opponent with elemental attacks and go in for the kill using his extended hands.
Sasori is also an S-Rank ninja and member of the Akatuski. He is a master puppeteer, and like all puppeteers, are able to use the unpredictable attacks related to the puppets themselves. One of the most dangerous things about him are that his weapons are all covered with deadly posion. Using the Third Kazekage puppet, he can ultilize a variety of attacks ranging from close to long range, but it's most deadly attack is Iron Sand, a long range jutsu that uses sand manipulation and magnetism to attack the opponent with a versatile arsenal. If his puppets fail, Sasori uses HIMSELF as a puppet, the Scorpion. Along with being able to move briskly along the battlefield with wings and wires, Sasori can unleash jets of flame and can control 100 puppets at a time in this form. These puppets all have posionous weapons, and the more you kill, the more concentrated he is on individual ones. Also, Sasori cannot be killed unless you destroy the heart in the mid center of his chest. If you cannot, it is very hard to deal with Sasori as he can repair his puppet body and even switch bodies at will. Sasori's main move set involves posioning theopponent with a variety of attacks or overpowering them with iron sand, with great defenses aiding him.
Petty useless but i wanted tolol

[321zigzag3]

Isn't his mouth like stiched closed?

No its not. He can clearly speak.

[Super Sanin 3]

I forgot if Sasori has any real defense for attacks besides Iron Sand, puppeteers can be vulnerable. especially to multiple strong attacks from different points

[NagatoGod_of_Pain]

If Kakuzu releases his hearts, then all of them are out including Earth.

He's done that both times in as many chances.

[Super Sanin 3]

But can't he have them fuse with his body? The Earth heart would be more beneficial in his body

[Kreegah!!!]

Just a note while I think up an actual playthrough of the scenario: Kakuzu as a puppet would make Sasori unbeatable.

[Super Sanin 3]

Or Madara with the rinnegan :cool:

On a serious note I wana rap my case in a nutshell so it's easier lol
I believe that considering Kakuzu's knowledge and years of experience, he would be able to analyze Sasori's strengths and weaknesses as a puppet master, including posionous unpredictable attacks and long-range style methods. When Sasori uses his Kazekage puppet, Kakuzu would split up his hearts except for the earth heart (because of its very needed defense) and try to out-flank Sasori. If he needs control on the puppet, it leaves his real body wide open, in addition, wood is flammable. So even if he doesn't hit the heart, the wood would soon burn by itself. If he combines the 2, it would make an extremely powerful fire attack that's even harder to dodge, and if dodged gives an opening for Kakuzu to attack with mid to long ranged hands. Sasori's only real threat here is the Iron Sand from the Kazekage puppet, so if a heart takes out the puppet it's Kakuzu's win. Also, the hearts have great flexibility being made out of tentacles, and in order to kill the heart you must destroy the mask. Kakuzu wins with hard difficulty

[THE X UCHIHA]

Iron Sand > the 4 hearts
Poison > the 5th heart inside Kakuzu's body.

[J-Sun Tasogare]

Iron Sand > the 4 hearts
Poison > the 5th heart inside Kakuzu's body.

How does the poison get to his heart?

[VGM]

Ouch, I like this fight. If they are 10 Miles away I think Sasori has the upper hand in finding Kakuzu, but I don't think he'd be able to get the kill.

Do you think his Iron Sand would be able to break the masks? (the one where the sand separates) That's the main chance he has. Iron Sand vs Masks... I don't regard Sasori himself of being too fast, and multiple elemental attacks from various angles should get him...

[321zigzag3]

Ouch, I like this fight. If they are 10 Miles away I think Sasori has the upper hand in finding Kakuzu, but I don't think he'd be able to get the kill.


Long range also suits Kakuzu too.




Do you think his Iron Sand would be able to break the masks? (the one where the sand separates) That's the main chance he has. Iron Sand vs Masks... I don't regard Sasori himself of being too fast, and multiple elemental attacks from various angles should get him...

If Asuma's wind dust jutsu can, so can Iron Sand easily.

In fact any of his three iron sand jutsu can.

No Sasori isn't a very mobile character in terms of akatsuki level.
He has good reactions and reflexes though.

[Super Sanin 3]

I think the masks have shown enough flexibility and speed feats to avoid World Order, didn't Sakura only get a scratch? The masks are harder to hit too

[321zigzag3]

I think Sakura had the help of Chiyo's chakra strings.

[Super Sanin 3]

Well the hearts are really made of tentacles, it's pretty hard to hit them, they're pretty flexible
Example: A shard from world order is about to his part of the mask, the tentacles seperate to make a spot for it. You really have to hit the mask, plus there's like 3 outside of him

Who knows if it's effective in the forest too with all the cover and stuff. Also don't forget to add that in the forest they're more close ranged when they meet than in the barren Akatsuki hideout

[NagatoGod_of_Pain]

Well the hearts are really made of tentacles, it's pretty hard to hit them, they're pretty flexible
Example: A shard from world order is about to his part of the mask, the tentacles seperate to make a spot for it. You really have to hit the mask, plus there's like 3 outside of him

Who knows if it's effective in the forest too with all the cover and stuff. Also don't forget to add that in the forest they're more close ranged when they meet than in the barren Akatsuki hideout

We've never seen the bodies of the masks to actually separate though.

Seems like its body is actually solid since it never showed flexibility like Kakuzu's main body's strings.