Would anyone be interested in...

[kg gangster]

Doing something like kazumi tried before. We all get like 100 pOints to districts as we please to different stats. Then we apply the stat difference in fights. That way there can be some fun and someone can be faster then another or someone's attacks might be slightly stronger to break through defenses. It won't be a manditory thing. Just optional

[Draco Uchiha]

im up for it, it would probably stop all the argueing around here about what beats what and whos faster that who. But it'd have to be different depending on forms.
Ex:
soul reaper (regular):100 points
Soul reaper (shinkai): 150 Points
Soul Reaper (bankai): 200
Soule Reaper (final bankai): 300

[Yori]

Hm I'm for this, is just that she recieved such a negative reaction to this. Mostly everybody character type in BFV is balance. Surprisingly the last two fights I was in, landing hits wasn't a difficult challenge, hell I even let myself get damage.

[Bacon]

Well, like I said before. If we can't do this because of arguing,then none of yall are worth the time of day. xD

I mean, we like to brag about being tricky,speedy and durable. Why not make it semi official. This is much more interesting than equalization, especially since thats been the policy since forever. e.e

[royelric]

Didnt we try too do this once

[Yori]

True, being equal is a pain. Also this allows for actual hits and injures can be made in a fight.. hell I'm for it

[Devroux]

If we do, try to keep it to 4-5 categories for easier distribution of points. Just stereotyping off of stat books, there's a tendency to make multiple speed categories or other, almost needless, categories.

Basically--

Speed:
Strength:
Stamina:
Reiatsu:

[Bacon]

Maybe durability for stamina, since fights only last five turns more or less.

[Devroux]

Some people still like infinite fights. Durability could be a fifth category, which would still make point distribution easy at the start (20 for each).

[Yori]

Seems fine to me

[Bacon]

There's no precedent to judge stamina by devvy,but it seems fine to me. Although stamina in an infinite fight is lolololol

[Devroux]

Maybe it'll force people to role play a bit better? I thought about it all. It's just an idea anyway. If we have more than 2 people that will discuss it, we can all come to an agreement.

[Draco Uchiha]

also, maybe put points down for certain techniques that people have created to limit disputes on what beats what.

[Bacon]

Maybe it'll force people to role play a bit better? I thought about it all. It's just an idea anyway. If we have more than 2 people that will discuss it, we can all come to an agreement.
I'm down with the idea, it would make people role play better indeed. The main problem is setting up an example and giving them the info in a persuasive manner.
also, maybe put points down for certain techniques that people have created to limit disputes on what beats what.
Needs more beef, like give an example of what you mean. Like a defesnive hado versus a bankai ability?

[Draco Uchiha]

I'm down with the idea, it would make people role play better indeed. The main problem is setting up an example and giving them the info in a persuasive manner.

Needs more beef, like give an example of what you mean. Like a defesnive hado versus a bankai ability?
like a hado vs cero
or a personal technique vs someone elses.

[Bacon]

I think the personal techniques/ cero versus hado would be determined by your release state,for the most part.

[Noctis Arashi]

I'm down.

[Yori]

Yeah pretty much that ^

[Devroux]

I'm down with the idea, it would make people role play better indeed. The main problem is setting up an example and giving them the info in a persuasive manner.

Needs more beef, like give an example of what you mean. Like a defesnive hado versus a bankai ability?
I always game for being a dummy. I have an upcoming fight with Jun, so if I can get him to split up stuff for categories, our fight can be an example of an infinite, stamina-based battle.

[Bacon]

You'd also have to convince that stubborn horse that he has limits though. xDDDD

[Draco Uchiha]

Thats what i mean, most people have their signature technique (ex:ichigo's getsuga tensho) that are suppose to be really powerfull. So lets say each person gets 6 techniques.
3: Minor
2: Major
1: Signature (unique to only them)
Each person gets, oh lets say 300 points to distrubute evenly between each portion. Of course the signature would get the most points but the others are up to the person distrubuting them.

[Noctis Arashi]

You'd also have to convince that stubborn horse that he has limits though. xDDDD

PFFFTTAAHAHAH.

That was funny.

[Bacon]

Thats what i mean, most people have their signature technique (ex:ichigo's getsuga tensho) that are suppose to be really powerfull. So lets say each person gets 6 techniques.
3: Minor
2: Major
1: Signature (unique to only them)
Each person gets, oh lets say 300 points to distrubute evenly between each portion. Of course the signature would get the most points but the others are up to the person distrubuting them.
D: It looks interesting,but anything that forces people to look back on another thread may scare them away. I've got nothing against it.:geek:
PFFFTTAAHAHAH.

That was funny.
`:P

[Danielle]

That's what i mean, most people have their signature technique (ex:ichigo's getsuga tensho) that are suppose to be really powerful. So lets say each person gets 6 techniques.
3: Minor
2: Major
1: Signature (unique to only them)
Each person gets, oh lets say 300 points to distribute evenly between each portion. Of course the signature would get the most points but the others are up to the person distributing them.
I don't know about that, it's interesting, but someone's personal limits already sort of regulates techniques, I should think. Stamina and strength should effect powers or whatnot.

[Noctis Arashi]

I'm down with the stamina and strength thing.

But the other stuff makes me meh.

[Sephiroth]

Eh idk honestly I'm very iffy

[royelric]

Seph still needs to counter :P

[Bacon]

If we do, try to keep it to 4-5 categories for easier distribution of points. Just stereotyping off of stat books, there's a tendency to make multiple speed categories or other, almost needless, categories.

Basically--

Speed:
Strength:
Stamina:
Reiatsu:

well....simplicity?

[Danielle]

well....simplicity?
I vote simplicity.

[Yori]

Simplicity

[Devroux]

Simplicity? I'm not really sure how to respond...

[kg gangster]

Yea durability good. What would reiatsu do?

[Noctis Arashi]

Yea durability good. What would reiatsu do?
Manipulation Prowess.

Because stamina would already encompass the amount you have.

[Devroux]

A lot of people use reiatsu for attacks. Basically that category would define how good you manipulate your energy and how well you use it. It relates to the speed of use too. So your kido could go faster or something.

I don't know. Just ideas.

[Danielle]

Yea durability good. What would reiatsu do?
However much energy you have for your techniques, kido or cero? Perhaps you use certain amounts on certain levels of attacks?

[Bacon]

Simplicity? I'm not really sure how to respond...
Simple =/= dumbed down, it just means simple.

[Devroux]

I see... Huzzah!

[kg gangster]

Hmm I like debs explanation of it.

So for an example

Stamina 0/10
Strength 0/10
Speed 0/10
Reiatsu 0/10

Bankai/release
Stamina {+10}/10
strength {+10}/10
speed {+10}/10
reiatsu {+10}/10

Get +10 to ur stats when u release

[Noctis Arashi]

/facepalm

Indeed.

[Sephiroth]

Problem same with last. It should be the created of the thread and the mods responsibility to update the stats etc. Last time t was done nothing was updated. Also there needs to be a list of how to gain points etc by fights rp etc. Also this should would together with bacons rp idea etc it would make it dinner and more intresting. Also the people should have their own power to choose what goes where etc

[Devroux]

Hmm I like debs explanation of it.

So for an example

Stamina 0/10
Strength 0/10
Speed 0/10
Reiatsu 0/10

Bankai/release
Stamina {+10}/10
strength {+10}/10
speed {+10}/10
reiatsu {+10}/10

Get +10 to ur stats when u release
I don't know. I'm liking Draco's idea for it. Most bankais are suited for the user, so all stats, although they may go up, don't raise in even increments. The user should be able to put more points in different areas to make their shikai and bankai suit them better.
im up for it, it would probably stop all the argueing around here about what beats what and whos faster that who. But it'd have to be different depending on forms.
Ex:
soul reaper (regular):100 points
Soul reaper (shinkai): 150 Points
Soul Reaper (bankai): 200
Soule Reaper (final bankai): 300

[kg gangster]

No increase. Stats stay where u make them. Otherwise new people would come in and be so base the vets would crush them

[Bacon]

Hmm I like debs explanation of it.

So for an example

Stamina 0/10
Strength 0/10
Speed 0/10
Reiatsu 0/10

Bankai/release
Stamina {+10}/10
strength {+10}/10
speed {+10}/10
reiatsu {+10}/10

Get +10 to ur stats when u release
Very nice, all we need.
/facepalm

Indeed.
e.e shut up lol
Problem same with last. It should be the created of the thread and the mods responsibility to update the stats etc. Last time t was done nothing was updated. Also there needs to be a list of how to gain points etc by fights rp etc. Also this should would together with bacons rp idea etc it would make it dinner and more intresting. Also the people should have their own power to choose what goes where etc
:3 Dinner = auto correct by iphone> xD

Yea, sounds good but maybe a normal user should own the thread,then the mods can edit it at their leisure.

As for the beefier details, let's take one step at a time to prevent overwhelming.

[Noctis Arashi]

I say keep things simple.

I prefer KG's idea.

[Sephiroth]

How cOuld u tell bacon haha

[Devroux]

Wait... Are these only for battle use? If so, why keep it uniform so people can't customize their releases to fit them more? It prevents more of a gap between people in different areas and therefore, more creative fighting.

[Noctis Arashi]

Creativity isn't based on statistic points. Just do what you do.

[Devroux]

It is when you've got to leap over a 10 point gap just to counter pure strength when all you've got is high stamina.

[kg gangster]

I think u misunderstood. Maybe someone had their stamina at 9/10. So when they went up highest in the area they put their point into the most

[Noctis Arashi]

It is when you've got to leap over a 10 point gap just to counter pure strength when all you've got is high stamina.

High Stamina=More Reiatsu

More Reiatsu=More Spam

Augment your speed or strength with reiatsu, or something along those lines. Or even just send massive ammounts.

[kg gangster]

U can use whatever moves and techs u make. This is just your stat points and everyone will be free to put them where they wish.

[kg gangster]

High Stamina=More Reiatsu

More Reiatsu=More Spam

Augment your speed or strength with reiatsu, or something along those lines. Or even just send massive ammounts.

U always gotta find a way to hax things. It's optional u DON'T have to do it >_>

[Sephiroth]

Also another concern of mine. What if someone wanted to be like kenny and wanted to make a character just in base?

[Devroux]

Stamina 9/10
Strength 8/10
Speed 10/10
Reiatsu 7/10

Bankai/release
Stamina 19/10
strength 18/10
speed 20/10
reiatsu 17/10

Am I correct in assuming that's all you mean?

[Noctis Arashi]

U always gotta find a way to hax things. It's optional u DON'T have to do it >_>

What do you mean optional?

Elaborate.

[Bacon]

It is when you've got to leap over a 10 point gap just to counter pure strength when all you've got is high stamina.
You counter strength with speed, traps,spam etc. Beating brute force is not the easiest thing to do,but it's also not the hardest.

What do you mean optional?

Elaborate.
It's an optional stat sheet, for people who don;t want to use equalization.


@Sephy: I dun think we will have a reward system, so there will be no kennys. `:P

[Noctis Arashi]

That's kind of redundant.

[Devroux]

You counter strength with speed, traps,spam etc. Beating brute force is not the easiest thing to do,but it's also not the hardest.


It's an optional stat sheet, for people who don;t want to use equalization.


@Sephy: I dun think we will have a reward system, so there will be no kennys. `:P
That wasn't part of it though! Your speeds can be equal because of the players picking their points, but maybe stamina is all you have over him while he's got a ton of strength over you. You've only got so much you can do to stop a swing from his sword then. It makes your writing more creative.

[Bacon]

That's kind of redundant.
Not really, me and yori injured eachother without stats. Stats would just make it easier for him to speed blitz while I would use pure power to catch him even if he is fast.

That wasn't part of it though! Your speeds can be equal because of the players picking their points, but maybe stamina is all you have over him while he's got a ton of strength over you. You've only got so much you can do to stop a swing from his sword then. It makes your writing more creative.
e.e devvy lol, what do you define as strength? I only consider it brute close quarters combat.

[Noctis Arashi]

Not really, me and yori injured eachother without stats. Stats would just make it easier for him to speed blitz while I would use pure power to catch him even if he is fast.


e.e devvy lol, what do you define as strength? I only consider it brute close quarters combat.
That's not what I meant. I injured seph without stats. But the fact that it's optional makes it iffy. Because all it would do would separate people. Some would have stats, and some wouldn't. Restricting who fought who. I support the stats, I'm just looking at it from another perspective.

I know what stats do. =/ I was part of the original statistic movement.

[Bacon]

The thing is, both people would have to agree to the stats. Besides, these are kinda like training wheels for the people who still fight like it's 09.

[Noctis Arashi]

The thing is, both people would have to agree to the stats. Besides, these are kinda like training wheels for the people who still fight like it's 09.

Which is why it would divide people. Because people who disagree with them, would never fight with people who use them, and vice versa.

[Sephiroth]

Who is sho sho?

[Bacon]

Nah man, who we have now is all that fv will ever be. If we can't work past petty differences like that,then no one here is worthwhile.

@seph: It's a member named shoukry

[kg gangster]

Bacon wanna make a quick stat sheet an add it to the last 2 rounds of our fight so people can have an example of how they'll be applied?

[Bacon]

Sure sure, what stats do you want to use? I'm not sure if we have like 5,4 or what. xD

[kg gangster]

We'll figure that out in pm

[Raiku]

It sounds like a pretty good idea

[DeidaraSenpai77]

say what? thats hilarious.