View Full Version : 3rd Raikage Gauntlet
Shikamaru Nara
09-12-2011, 02:42 PM
Restrictions: None
Location: Plain open field.
State of Mind for 3rd Raikage: BL
Everyone else: IC
Weather: Thunderstorm.
Him Vs Narutoverse in order of strongest to weakest according to our tier list. How far does he get? If he clears the entire verse, moves onto Jinchiruuki. How far does he get against the verse once the entire verse plus Bijuu are cleared when hype counts?
He gets regeneration after every fight as long as he survives.
Super Sanin 3
09-12-2011, 02:43 PM
I thought i made this D:< aw well it's a bit different from mine anyways, i say until Pein, but since he's blood lusted and others are IC i'd say he can get until Naruto, since IIRC we know the bijuu bomb will work
Uchiha Sora
09-12-2011, 06:24 PM
Regeneration? Regenerate from what? LOL he's not getting hurt.
We gotta wait until wednesday to see if he beats Naruto. but without Bijuu rasengan i'd say he gets past naruto. But idk if he'll be able to take a kirin.
Super Sanin 3
09-12-2011, 06:26 PM
Don't forget that the FRS was naturally stronger than Raikage's V2 shroud
NagatoGod_of_Pain
09-12-2011, 07:29 PM
Restrictions: None
Location: Plain open field.
State of Mind for 3rd Raikage: BL
Everyone else: IC
Weather: Thunderstorm.
Him Vs Narutoverse in order of strongest to weakest according to our tier list. How far does he get? If he clears the entire verse, moves onto Jinchiruuki. How far does he get against the verse once the entire verse plus Bijuu are cleared when hype counts?
He gets regeneration after every fight as long as he survives.
Wait, he starts by fighting the Sage and goes down?
Uchiha Sora
09-12-2011, 07:33 PM
Oh wait STRONGEST to weakest?
Shikamaru Nara
09-12-2011, 07:35 PM
Yeah. The purpose of this thread is mostly to see how many high tiers he can get through. Ultomately I am trying to determine where he should be on the list and talk to TBC about it.
NagatoGod_of_Pain
09-12-2011, 08:14 PM
Yeah. The purpose of this thread is mostly to see how many high tiers he can get through. Ultomately I am trying to determine where he should be on the list and talk to TBC about it.
Then he's not going to get very far. The Sage can hold the 10-Tails with CT. The 3rd Raikage isn't THAT powerful.
THE X UCHIHA
09-12-2011, 10:00 PM
Restrictions: None
Location: Plain open field.
State of Mind for 3rd Raikage: BL
Everyone else: IC
Weather: Thunderstorm.
Him Vs Narutoverse in order of strongest to weakest according to our tier list. How far does he get? If he clears the entire verse, moves onto Jinchiruuki. How far does he get against the verse once the entire verse plus Bijuu are cleared when hype counts?
He gets regeneration after every fight as long as he survives.
this needs list :
1. EMS Saskue with Susano Amys him 'cuz there isn't any knowledge so once he touches the flames thinking his lightning armor gonna work he get Amy'd and burn to death.
2. ET'd Nagato rips his soul out with Naraka path, he almost did that with RM Naruto who's not slower than the 3rd.
3. Danzo uses Shisui's eye or Izanagi as the Raikage is a tai-nin jutsu user and we've never seen him using genjutsu or breaking it out before.
4. he survived a Menacing ball from the Hachibi but this doesn't mean he can survive both the Kyuubi's and the Hachibi's.
5. there's no way he can damage black zetsu
6. Madara teleports him into another dimension and then CTs him.
7. Muu and Onoiki spam jintons at him till he get dusted.
8. there's no way he can hit little mustache
9. anyone can fly is safe like Konan , Gaara , Deidara ... etc.
, well we never saw him hitting someone or something flying in the air.
10. Kabuto still has his unknown ETZ that shocked Madara with.
11. Rikudo.
12. 10 tailed.
and finally Naruto.
UchihaXSasuke
09-13-2011, 05:32 AM
The X uchiha
he unkowm ETZ is actualy obito
THE X UCHIHA
09-13-2011, 10:17 AM
The X uchiha
he unkowm ETZ is actualy obito
not proven yet.
UchihaXSasuke
09-13-2011, 12:07 PM
i saw it with my eyes
Shikamaru Nara
09-13-2011, 02:43 PM
this needs list :
1. EMS Saskue with Susano Amys him 'cuz there isn't any knowledge so once he touches the flames thinking his lightning armor gonna work he get Amy'd and burn to death.
2. ET'd Nagato rips his soul out with Naraka path, he almost did that with RM Naruto who's not slower than the 3rd.
3. Danzo uses Shisui's eye or Izanagi as the Raikage is a tai-nin jutsu user and we've never seen him using genjutsu or breaking it out before.
4. he survived a Menacing ball from the Hachibi but this doesn't mean he can survive both the Kyuubi's and the Hachibi's.
5. there's no way he can damage black zetsu
6. Madara teleports him into another dimension and then CTs him.
7. Muu and Onoiki spam jintons at him till he get dusted.
8. there's no way he can hit little mustache
9. anyone can fly is safe like Konan , Gaara , Deidara ... etc.
, well we never saw him hitting someone or something flying in the air.
10. Kabuto still has his unknown ETZ that shocked Madara with.
11. Rikudo.
12. 10 tailed.
and finally Naruto.
Great, but since they're not on the list, it's useless seeing how far he gets against those guys. At least that would make sense if you read this:
Yeah. The purpose of this thread is mostly to see how many high tiers he can get through. Ultomately I am trying to determine where he should be on the list and talk to TBC about it.
Frost ninja
09-13-2011, 06:09 PM
Well considering that his only injury came from himself, and appearently his objection-no-jutsu was good enough to cut all of the tails off of the oxtopus...'
I guess we have Nappa two-fingers, and Raikage one-finger.
Stops at Sage though...
J-Man
09-13-2011, 06:31 PM
Sage of....? Because people are reallyoverrating this guy.
Hachibi and him both were exhausted and beat, theyre about equal power if you're not an idiot.
Pleeeenty of characters are stronger than Hachibi including but not limited to, Kyuubi.
Frost ninja
09-13-2011, 06:41 PM
Sage of....? Because people are reallyoverrating this guy.
Hachibi and him both were exhausted and beat, theyre about equal power if you're not an idiot.
Pleeeenty of characters are stronger than Hachibi including but not limited to, Kyuubi.
Equal power?
Do you mean Equal stamina? As in Equal Stamina with an embodyment of chakra?
Because if you mean power, appearently Raikage cut off all of the oxtopus tails with one finger and didn't get injured by the Oxtopus at all...
I'd say thats not equal power.
Sage of Six Paths, to your first thing though. He made the moon and all.
J-Man
09-13-2011, 06:47 PM
Well obviously Hachibi didn't exactly lose to Raikage either. They both collapsed at the same time, they're of equal power, strength, stamina, whatever. Hachibi=Sandaime Raikage.
Lol yeah thought you meant Rikudou. Lol at him being at the top of Narutoverse. Lol.
Frost ninja
09-13-2011, 11:52 PM
Well obviously Hachibi didn't exactly lose to Raikage either. They both collapsed at the same time, they're of equal power, strength, stamina, whatever. Hachibi=Sandaime Raikage.
I'd say getting all of your tails cut off and having a draw simply because the other guy got tired isnt equal.
Plus, who aside from the tailed beast and him have the stamina of an embodyment of chakra?
So no, Oxtopus = 3rd Rai in terms of stamina. Aside from that, the fact that he could hurt the Oxtopus and not vice versa says they arent on equal terms of power.
Lol yeah thought you meant Rikudou. Lol at him being at the top of Narutoverse. Lol.
Lol at the 3rd or Sage of the Six paths?
GucciBandana
09-14-2011, 12:54 AM
we don't need Sage of 6 path to finish him off, if we get lucky, Sage of Jiraiya might be able to do it.
taking down 8 tails has been done before, Sasuke's amaterasu actually pretty much did it.
Frost ninja
09-14-2011, 04:08 AM
Goes from top to bottom, though, and the Sage is at the top.
Jirayia, I dunno. I guess if he does the same thing, but at the same time Naruto got a hint from the oxtopus himself, otherwise it was unknown even to the closest people. Plus, if he is put in his current state (Edo Tensei mode), then there is no beating him if you can't seal which means Itachi, Human Path... They have a chance.
Noctis Arashi
09-14-2011, 04:34 AM
He dies at konohamaru, because he bunshin feints to rassengan his arm into his chest.
GG.
J-Man
09-14-2011, 05:07 AM
I'd say getting all of your tails cut off and having a draw simply because the other guy got tired isnt equal.
Plus, who aside from the tailed beast and him have the stamina of an embodyment of chakra?
So no, Oxtopus = 3rd Rai in terms of stamina. Aside from that, the fact that he could hurt the Oxtopus and not vice versa says they arent on equal terms of power.So he cut all his tails off. He ddid get tired and he did lose. They both fell at the same time and Raikage couldn't beat Hachibi but, yeah he's stronger. Makes perfect sense I love your logic Frost Ninja.
Hachibi is just a bijuu. Plenty plenty stronger let me name a few okay Muu, Onoki, Minato, Sasuke probably, Naruto, Kyuubi, Juubi, Rikudou Sennin(saying he gets to Rikudou who's obviously at the top is retarded, lol strongest Naruto character youre funny), Jiraiya, Madara, Kakuzu, Pain, Kisame, etc etc etc. That was just the top of my head.
Saying he gets to Rikudou Sennin, really can't stop laughing.
321zigzag3
09-14-2011, 07:43 AM
Hachibi is just a bijuu. Plenty plenty stronger let me name a few okay Muu, Onoki, Minato, Sasuke probably, Naruto, Kyuubi, Juubi, Rikudou Sennin(saying he gets to Rikudou who's obviously at the top is retarded, lol strongest Naruto character youre funny), Jiraiya, Madara, Kakuzu, Pain, Kisame, etc etc etc. That was just the top of my head.
Saying he gets to Rikudou Sennin, really can't stop laughing.
http://techpaul.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/skeptical-face.jpg
As for Jiraiya and Kisame, they would very hardpressed to fight Hachibi successfully as well.
Frost ninja
09-14-2011, 08:49 AM
So he cut all his tails off. He ddid get tired and he did lose. They both fell at the same time and Raikage couldn't beat Hachibi but, yeah he's stronger. Makes perfect sense I love your logic Frost Ninja.
Yes. He did damage to Hachibi, where as hachibi did none. By what yours saying, they each should've traded blows rather than him getting a scar because he hit himself with his own jutsu. If they are of "equal power", then hachibi should've done something to him since he was able to do it to himself.
Also he didn't "lose", it was a draw at worst and he got a scar from hitting himself with a jutsu while a tailed beast hit him with a TBB and couldnt so much as singe him. My logic fits better than yours, friend.
Hachibi is just a bijuu. Plenty plenty stronger let me name a few okay Muu, Onoki, Minato, Sasuke probably, Naruto, Kyuubi, Juubi, Rikudou Sennin(saying he gets to Rikudou who's obviously at the top is retarded, lol strongest Naruto character youre funny), Jiraiya, Madara, Kakuzu, Pain, Kisame, etc etc etc. That was just the top of my head.
Kakuzu is a no, Jirayia.... Eh, Muu and Onoki can dematerialize people, Minato is the fastest, Sasuke used ammy, Naruto maybe, Kyuubi and Juubi is a given, SotSP too, Madara would have to use Gedo Mazo, Pain would have to use CT, Kisame is what it is. So yes, you've given me a list of people who could beat most anyone and everyone. If you were to individualize people from that list, you can reuse the list and its arguable.
Saying he gets to Rikudou Sennin, really can't stop laughing.
Someone, meaning you, obviously didnt read the OP or many posts on the first page. He goes from strongest to weakest. Please try to read the OP before posting, it has some good info.
J-Man
09-14-2011, 09:57 AM
Kakuzu is very very underestimated by you people. He isnt a member of Akatsuki for nothing, meaning that, he kills bijuu. And yes. Hachibi and 3rd raikage drew, that's that. He can't beat him, if he was so much stronger then why didn't he.
Lol strongest to weakest, was probably an obvious typo.
The list isnt very good anyway if you meant the main site one. of course you can remake a whole new list by all the people i listed since its so out of wack anyway it hardly looks like what I said. :P
321zigzag3
09-14-2011, 11:22 AM
Kakuzu is very very underestimated by you people.
Irrelevent in this scenario.
He isnt a member of Akatsuki for nothing, meaning that, he kills bijuu. And yes. Hachibi and 3rd raikage drew, that's that. He can't beat him, if he was so much stronger then why didn't he.
Yeah, I am pretty sure thats why the duo skipped out on the hachibi and went for the Kyuubi kid instead.
J-Man
09-14-2011, 11:36 AM
Kyuubi>Hachibi so that doesnt really matter if they think they can take someone strongerthan the Hachibi. :D
And now that I think of it yeah, I didnt really mean kills I meant capture, so theres your point he might accidentally kill Hachibi hence, my point.
Something like this (http://techpaul.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/skeptical-face.jpg) while highlighting kakuzu tends to disagree that its irrelevant.
321zigzag3
09-14-2011, 11:59 AM
Kyuubi>Hachibi so that doesnt really matter if they think they can take someone strongerthan the Hachibi. :D
I didn't know that Base Naruto at that time was comparable to Killerbee in any way shape or form, Naruto even resolved not to use Kyuubi much.
And now that I think of it yeah, I didnt really mean kills I meant capture, so theres your point he might accidentally kill Hachibi hence, my point.
Except Kakuzu has nothing to combat Killerbee when he goes shrouded mode.
Something like this (http://techpaul.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/skeptical-face.jpg) while highlighting kakuzu tends to disagree that its irrelevant.
http://rlv.zcache.com/what_are_you_talking_about_tshirt-p2351114685286416463p58_152.jpg
J-Man
09-14-2011, 01:53 PM
See there's a difference, yeah it may not look like he was stronger but, not only because he rejected kyuubi but also because KB actually cooperates with his bijuu, of course Naruto's tailed forms are way stronger than Bee(speaking of the actual shroud like 6 tailed of course) and, if he was actually in control then the full nine-tails fox explains that much. :P
Hehe i see what you're doing there `:P
Frost ninja
09-14-2011, 07:29 PM
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They drew because they got tired. Not in combat-wise, Raikage was far beyond Habchibi in power just not in stamina.
SageoftheSixPaths
09-14-2011, 07:33 PM
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They drew because they got tired. Not in combat-wise, Raikage was far beyond Habchibi in power just not in stamina.
Says who? Hachibi has never been seen on a rampage by himself, only with Bee.
And the Hachibi blast easily leveled a mountain sized structure. I'd love to see the 3rd Raikage, let alone another other character, tank THAT.
Blind Uchiha
09-14-2011, 07:35 PM
Well it is implied that the third Raikage tanked the tailed beast bomb and was only injured by his own jutsu but it is off panel.
Super Sanin 3
09-14-2011, 07:37 PM
Just like to point out that Naruto only knew to use the Raikage's arm against himself because of his contact with Hachibi + the info by that cloud ninja
SageoftheSixPaths
09-14-2011, 07:38 PM
Well it is implied that the third Raikage tanked the tailed beast bomb and was only injured by his own jutsu but it is off panel.
My understanding of it was that the 3rd somehow accidentally shanked himself during the fight. There's no reason to believe the Hachibi ever used the Bijuu Blast, let alone what kind of level it fought on without Bee acting as its host.
Super Sanin 3
09-14-2011, 07:40 PM
What made Jinchuuriki stronger than Bijuu again? I thought it was intelligence but honestly Hachibi > KB's intelligence for the most part >.>
Blind Uchiha
09-14-2011, 07:41 PM
My understanding of it was that the 3rd somehow accidentally shanked himself during the fight. There's no reason to believe the Hachibi ever used the Bijuu Blast, let alone what kind of level it fought on without Bee acting as its host.
The Hachibi stated that he believed that the attack that KO'ed the Third Raikage was his tailed beast bomb, but as I said it was off panel and he may not be remembering correctly. I just felt like adding a little spice to the discussion really.
SageoftheSixPaths
09-14-2011, 07:47 PM
What made Jinchuuriki stronger than Bijuu again? I thought it was intelligence but honestly Hachibi > KB's intelligence for the most part >.>
More control over Bijuu powers (since Bijuu are basically always bloodlusted) and yes, greater "intelligence". But you're awesomely right in Bee's case.
The Hachibi stated that he believed that the attack that KO'ed the Third Raikage was his tailed beast bomb, but as I said it was off panel and he may not be remembering correctly. I just felt like adding a little spice to the discussion really.
Yeah, Hachibi even said HE wasn't sure. Hell, all evidence points to the 3rd poking his own heart out like a block puzzle piece.
Blind Uchiha
09-14-2011, 07:55 PM
So what is the general consensus? I don't see him defeating the Juubi, Kyuubi, Hachibi Etc. How about characters?
I know I can see Itachi and Nagato getting a win against him via soul sealing abilities, but can't think of any conventional attacks stronger than Rasenshuriken that could break his lightning shroud.
Super Sanin 3
09-14-2011, 08:07 PM
Itachi still has genjutsu, and a slight possibilty of being able to ammy him if he catches the Raikage off guard
Nagato has soul stealing/Preta path for absorbing the armor/ST for last resort defense and CT for his ultimate jutsu, but his summons can easily be destroyed by the Raikage's finger jutsu, and pretty much anything he else won't hurt him
Frost ninja
09-14-2011, 08:09 PM
555-9 had the oxtopus thinking it was his TBB that did it at first then reconsidering.
Why would he say it at all unless he used it at least once...?
321zigzag3
09-14-2011, 08:23 PM
See there's a difference, yeah it may not look like he was stronger but, not only because he rejected kyuubi but also because KB actually cooperates with his bijuu, of course Naruto's tailed forms are way stronger than Bee(speaking of the actual shroud like 6 tailed of course) and, if he was actually in control then the full nine-tails fox explains that much. :P
Hehe i see what you're doing there `:P
Doesn't change what I said earlier.
Well nice knowing that you agree that Kakuzu never said that. `:P
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