let's clear this up

[EvL j3st3r]

Which is the MORE valid/canon source of information?

The manga

the databook

or is neither more credible than the other.


please vote. It only takes a second

[JazzJunkie4]

manga. Isn't that where the data book gets it's data?

[ILIKEPIE]

I don't believe anything the databook says so Manga

[EvL j3st3r]

manga. Isn't that where the data book gets it's data?Well, I don't want to give an opinion to sway ppl one way or the other.......theoretically that's the idea tho.

and pls vote instead of just replying. this is to solve a debate. thanks.

[Yori]

Manga. The databooks are suppose to be based off the manga but there are always inconsistencies between them

[Hyuuga Heir]

I vote Manga, for the same reasons others have stated.

[WeezyBaby]

Manga

[Chiku]

manga...but the data book does give you random info on the characters thats not in the manga...so....both?

[A7XNaruHina]

yeah i would think manga.

[Syn Gizzam]

manga...but the data book does give you random info on the characters thats not in the manga...so....both?

Yeah why wouldnt there be an option for both LOL.

[EvL j3st3r]

Bc it's a comparison. I didn't ask which is valid. Read the question, "which is MORE valid/canon?" Meaning compared to each other. So "neither" means one is no more valid than the other. Your "both" is the "neither" option.

[Kakashi Hatake_Yamato]

id say manga, cuz ive seen or have seen people's comments on the databooks that some info are inaccurate

[Hidden Ninja45]

Neither. They both LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


jk Manga.

[Blind Uchiha]

Look at it logically. Would there be a databook if there were no manga? the answer is no. The databook is only supplementary information. For example, humans speak a language and we use a dictionary to compile the words we have created. Does the dictionary determine human language? No, humans do.

[Gouldy17]

^was gunna say something along those lines

[king kakashi]

manga

[Kreegah!!!]

Look at it logically. Would there be a databook if there were no manga? the answer is no. The databook is only supplementary information. For example, humans speak a language and we use a dictionary to compile the words we have created. Does the dictionary determine human language? No, humans do.

And they in turn determined the dictionaries are a source of governance in relation to meaning and spelling; in other words, saying go is stop and spelling it as Gypster Queen makes you wrong and an idiot. Therefore I conclude that the supplemental material is actually canon, and Kishi's alleged loose interpretation in relation is scandalous.:mrgreen:

[zerosameri]

Dude clear answer is the Manga it self. Most of the time the all of the data books info comes from the manga. Plus a good bit of it is off from the manga and unreliable depending on your volume you have.

[EvL j3st3r]

^where the hell have you been!?

[deidara330]

The databooks are supplementary. The databooks give you information about characters and abilities that the manga doesn't, but you don't really need to read the databooks to grasp the story, characters and events of Naruto. I don't think it's a matter of whether one source is more reliable than another. Both are written by the author, and the author creates storyboards and character traits that apply even when the fans can't simply see the character outline on a posterboard.

[EvL j3st3r]

^ok. I see your point. But what about in the event that the databook and manga contradict one another. Which would you choose to acknowledge at that point?

[deidara330]

^ok. I see your point. But what about in the event that the databook and manga contradict one another. Which source do you choose to believe.I don't care. My suspension of disbelief became upped to handle any level of contradiction when people started shooting fire from their eyes and calling lightning down from the sky whilst warping their opponents to a seperate dimension.

[EvL j3st3r]

I don't see where you can find clarity there.....So if the manga says one thing and the databook says another....you just accept that there are two answers even tho one cannot exist while the other does?

I think the story is the story. If info in the databook contradicts the story then I rule it out bc it hasn't actually made it's way in the story yet and therefore doesn't technically exist in it. That's the only sensible way I know to find clarity and consistency in such a situation.

[[Shikamaru]]

Data book is entirely inaccurate.

Also, it gives numbers, not specific scientific speed/power/intelligence features.

As we know, Minato would be a 5 on speed. But RM Naruto is faster, but he would remain a 5 in speed as well.

No way to determine the difference upon debating. Who's faster? We determine that by dialogue, what we see, and who they are able to keep speed with.

[Syn Gizzam]

The databooks are supplementary. The databooks give you information about characters and abilities that the manga doesn't, but you don't really need to read the databooks to grasp the story, characters and events of Naruto. I don't think it's a matter of whether one source is more reliable than another. Both are written by the author, and the author creates storyboards and character traits that apply even when the fans can't simply see the character outline on a posterboard.

Exactly the story and databook are meant to be used together, there is no outsourcing, since both were written by the author. The databooks supply more technical info not in the manga while the manga supplies the story itself.

[deidara330]

;5486533']Data book is entirely inaccurate.

Also, it gives numbers, not specific scientific speed/power/intelligence features.

As we know, Minato would be a 5 on speed. But RM Naruto is faster, but he would remain a 5 in speed as well.

No way to determine the difference upon debating. Who's faster? We determine that by dialogue, what we see, and who they are able to keep speed with.Most debaters take it too seriously to begin with.

[Syn Gizzam]

;5486533']Data book is entirely inaccurate.

Also, it gives numbers, not specific scientific speed/power/intelligence features.

As we know, Minato would be a 5 on speed. But RM Naruto is faster, but he would remain a 5 in speed as well.

No way to determine the difference upon debating. Who's faster? We determine that by dialogue, what we see, and who they are able to keep speed with.

how does that make it entirely inaccurate ? you can use that for the way they classify people in sports... its an average.. comparing to the average ninja there both 5s.. lol if it was inaccurate give an example where someone is rated wrong compared to another.. and fyi its just been proved hes faster then the raikage. they both use the same technique minato created

[Super Sanin 3]

It's okay, you just can't look at 2 numbers and say lol he blitzes. And it's not always the same thing (E.G. Gaara being speed 3)

[zerosameri]

^where the hell have you been!?

Getting settles in for collage.

[mrsticky005]

Kishimoto

[Shikamaru Nara]

The manga is the most reliable source of information.

How does the databook get its information? From the manga.

Of course, most things put in the databook are BS, like Haku being lightspeed ... especially because he was barely able to keep up with Kyuubi Field Naruto who was considerably slow. No feats, which are in the manga itself.

[zerosameri]

The manga is the most reliable source of information.

How does the databook get its information? From the manga.

Of course, most things put in the databook are BS, like Haku being lightspeed ... especially because he was barely able to keep up with Kyuubi Field Naruto who was considerably slow. No feats, which are in the manga itself.
Not all of it is BS (I know you said most), it is just the fact-fact stuff. But the misc stuff like, clothing, age, hight, likes, and so forth is true. That it self is 80% of the data books :lol:

[rados]

Databooks!!!

[gama-sennin]

If it has got anything to do with BG, then the Manga reigns supreme.

[Super Sanin 3]

The databook in terms of jutsu and that stuff isn't so bad, just people take "burns as hot as the sun" and that stuff too literally, the DB is actually pretty good. Though i believe the manga is more reliable.

[Might_GAI]

Definitely manga. Databook is all lies.. useless .. people only did it to earn some money for ads on the site.

[deidara330]

Definitely manga. Databook is all lies.. useless .. people only did it to earn some money for ads on the site.????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????

Viz Media runs the website, not the author, and Viz Media didn't write the books. Furthermore, advertisement space is sold, and Viz Media doesn't need to sell itself its own ads. Furthermore, the author of the story is the one who writes the databooks, and it's not likely that he'd lie in them to make money off of them when most authors use storyboards and character profiles to plan out details of the story before they begin writing and many valid details of the characters and events don't make it into the final publishing as a result of not being given any proper exposition opportunity and not providing enough important detail to the overall story. That's just for any given author; It's probably different for a manga author because of the weekly deadlines.