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-nagato_uzumaki-
08-21-2011, 05:39 PM
i love this debate because its ongoing and has the most reason for debate,
prep time allowed
no restrictions

SauceK
08-21-2011, 05:42 PM
I'm leaning to Naruto only cause we haven't seen the EMS in action. Naruto stomps this via rasengan, chakra arms and/or summoning.

Super Sanin 3
08-21-2011, 05:44 PM
Lol it says you posted a minute after my current time (stupid timer >.>)
I wonder if RM Naruto can dodge Sasuke's Susano'o arrows?
Naruto's gonna have to watch out for genjutsu since the fox isn't helping him out here

SauceK
08-21-2011, 05:47 PM
Lol it says you posted a minute after my current time (stupid timer >.>)

lulz

I wonder if RM Naruto can dodge Sasuke's Susano'o arrows?

Well, if Kakashi has time to kamui his arrows, then Naruto probably has time to dodge them.

Naruto's gonna have to watch out for genjutsu since the fox isn't helping him out here

Yeah pretty much the only problem for him in this battle.




in red.

Super Sanin 3
08-21-2011, 05:48 PM
TBH this won't be much of a fight until we see Sasuke's powered-up EMS
Would've used SM atleast `:D

Kuromaki
08-21-2011, 07:03 PM
Naruto: Sasuke has the mangekyo sharingan now, I better not look at his eyes just in case he uses genjutsu! *makes direct eye contact with Sasuke* Sasuke! I'm gonna fight you!

Sasuke: TSUKUYOMI

Naruto: Jeez, I just reminded myself not to look at his eyes a moment ago! I'm such a moron!

heroeking
08-21-2011, 07:06 PM
Sasuke stomps with tsukuyomi or Naruto decapitates which ever happens first.

Super Sanin 3
08-21-2011, 07:06 PM
I have a feeling sooner or later the 9 tails is gonna cooperate with Naruto via his talk no jutsu

megabbaut
08-21-2011, 07:38 PM
Naruto does not needs the Kyuubi's help to break genjutsu. He just needs his chakra.

king kakashi
08-21-2011, 09:27 PM
Naruto does not needs the Kyuubi's help to break genjutsu. He just needs his chakra.
naruto cannot break tskumiyomi by chakra manipulation he couldn't even break a strong regular genjutsu
but thanks to prep time and the fact that naruto has no knowledge sasuke can use kirin which until proven otherwise is immpossible to dodge

Super Sanin 3
08-21-2011, 09:28 PM
Naruto does not needs the Kyuubi's help to break genjutsu. He just needs his chakra.
Are you sure? We saw how B broke out of genjutsu and that was by the 8-tails poking at him but the 9-tails isn't cooperative (could be wrong though)

king kakashi
08-21-2011, 09:47 PM
Are you sure? We saw how B broke out of genjutsu and that was by the 8-tails poking at him but the 9-tails isn't cooperative (could be wrong though)
you're right here's proof
chaptor 549 page 14

DarkvoidDweller
08-21-2011, 10:09 PM
i would say if naruto did end up working with the nine tales he would win, otherwise it would be an extremely close call

Super Sanin 3
08-21-2011, 10:12 PM
If he WAS immune to genjutsu, i don't see Sasuke winning, he's as fast as Raikage so ammy might not work, same with susano'o arrows. And since Raikage easily attacked Sasuke i say Naruto could do the same, his multiple rasengan variants + FRS giving him a good advantage over Sasuke, he'd probably have to go Susano'o instantly

king kakashi
08-21-2011, 10:16 PM
If he WAS immune to genjutsu, i don't see Sasuke winning, he's as fast as Raikage so ammy might not work, same with susano'o arrows. And since Raikage easily attacked Sasuke i say Naruto could do the same, his multiple rasengan variants + FRS giving him a good advantage over Sasuke, he'd probably have to go Susano'o instantly
he probrably would but there is still no counter to kirin which so far cannot be dodged

Super Sanin 3
08-21-2011, 10:20 PM
he probrably would but there is still no counter to kirin which so far cannot be dodged
But that takes prep too

Super Sanin 3
08-21-2011, 10:39 PM
Reality: Naruto tries doing the friendship speech and Sauske tells Naruto to look into his eyes to see what he feels, then BAM, Dead Biju.
That sounds plotwise to me `:P, i mean it is a death match in the BG. Plus Naruto has info on MS `:shock:

Super Sanin 3
08-21-2011, 10:44 PM
Whoever Said Sasuke had to go MS? His 3 Tome entered into Narutos Mind and made contact with the Fox.

Well that's really what will happen if Naruto and Sasuke met.
You're up to date on the manga right? I'd think so but just in case i'll be safe
Naruto warned Bee about Tsukyomi so he wouldn't look into Sasuke's eyes anyways, and he uses the chakra by force now the Kyuubi doesnt give him it

king kakashi
08-22-2011, 12:12 AM
i love this debate because its ongoing and has the most reason for debate,
prep time allowed
no restrictions

But that takes prep too
here's the original post sasuke has prep

Super Sanin 3
08-22-2011, 12:25 AM
here's the original post sasuke has prep
Oh then he COULD use kirin but he'd need to use fireball spam and probably ammy to change the weather, and even with that he needs the time to use kirin on him

[Shikamaru]
08-22-2011, 12:43 AM
If Sasuke has prep so does Naruto.

Sasuke gets FRS'd before he drops Kirin.

Hell, even if it's dropped. Wind's strength is lightning, it will cut through it.

SauceK
08-22-2011, 03:40 AM
;5461630']If Sasuke has prep so does Naruto.

Sasuke gets FRS'd before he drops Kirin.

Hell, even if it's dropped. Wind's strength is lightning, it will cut through it.

Couldn't Sasuke counter it with Ammy?

-nagato_uzumaki-
08-22-2011, 04:05 AM
i think as long hes not caught off guard and isnt too reckless like the raikage then naruto would be to fast for ammy, seeing as how a weakened sasuke ran rom itachis for a bit and naruto i as fast as the raikage or faster then he shouldnt have that problem as long hes weary

Phoenix Wright
08-22-2011, 05:22 AM
Naruto takes it pretty easily right now considering he's faster than anything Sasuke can throw out at him and that just single hits altogether will wipe Sasuke out. The fact his chakra already right now is split up at least 8 times+ and that he can just spam like crazy all these combo and very versatile attacks that there's absolutely no way Sasuke can get around.

Alright! Giga Doc Ock Rasengan Tornado GOoooOoOo!!!! 4 Chakra arms smash into the ground and Naruto floats in the air! A bunch of chakra arms(Kage Bunshin if needed) shoot out of Naruto and go into the sky, all use Rasengan! All the chakra arms start spinning around really fast! Now! It is a tornado of Rasengan! Smash into the ground!

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

But seriously. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/sun.png
Naruto: Sasuke has the mangekyo sharingan now, I better not look at his eyes just in case he uses genjutsu! *makes direct eye contact with Sasuke* Sasuke! I'm gonna fight you!

Sasuke: TSUKUYOMI

Naruto: Jeez, I just reminded myself not to look at his eyes a moment ago! I'm such a moron!
Aww you got ignored, okay I'll reply to it.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070502223041/uncyclopedia/images/b/bb/Roflmao.jpg

king kakashi
08-22-2011, 06:59 AM
Naruto takes it pretty easily right now considering he's faster than anything Sasuke can throw out at him and that just single hits altogether will wipe Sasuke out. The fact his chakra already right now is split up at least 8 times+ and that he can just spam like crazy all these combo and very versatile attacks that there's absolutely no way Sasuke can get around.
naruto's speed does not beat kirin which until prven oterwise is immpossible to dodge or react too
Alright! Giga Doc Ock Rasengan Tornado GOoooOoOo!!!! 4 Chakra arms smash into the ground and Naruto floats in the air! A bunch of chakra arms(Kage Bunshin if needed) shoot out of Naruto and go into the sky, all use Rasengan! All the chakra arms start spinning around really fast! Now! It is a tornado of Rasengan! Smash into the ground!
blcked via susanoo

in red
sasuke has all the prep he needs for kirin by the time the fight starts all he'll need to do is raise his hand
and if narut want's t trow frs all he has tod is activate susanoo while he's using kirin

-nagato_uzumaki-
08-22-2011, 07:26 AM
thats definetly not IC for sasuke imo

Phoenix Wright
08-22-2011, 09:02 AM
What the hell I didn't respond here I could have sworn I did.
Anyway I forgot what I said but doesn't this cover the whole Kirin thing: If Sasuke has prep so does Naruto.

Sasuke gets FRS'd before he drops Kirin.

Hell, even if it's dropped. Wind's strength is lightning, it will cut through it.

Sephiroth
08-22-2011, 09:05 AM
Sasuke uses fire also which is winds weakness, Could he use Ammy to counter it. The world shall never know XD

-nagato_uzumaki-
08-22-2011, 10:18 AM
Sasuke uses fire also which is winds weakness, Could he use Ammy to counter it. The world shall never know XD

doesnt stop us from debating it haha,

heroeking
08-22-2011, 12:59 PM
How does Naruto not get tsukuyomi'd from the start. Op should ban this.

Super Sanin 3
08-22-2011, 01:02 PM
How does Naruto not get tsukuyomi'd from the start. Op should ban this.
Naruto still has knowledge on this, so i doubt he would look into his eyes

-nagato_uzumaki-
08-22-2011, 02:34 PM
AND sasukes tsukuyomi pales in comparison to itachis so we dont know if naruto could or could not get out of it, plus it would be OoC for sasuke to use it right from the start as he barely uses it and has only used it once

Super Sanin 3
08-22-2011, 02:36 PM
Unless the Kyuubi falls into talk-no jutsu and decides to help him out, I don't think naruto can break out of genjutsu, while looking at the Itachi vs Bee fight Hachibi had to tap on Bee to wake him up

-nagato_uzumaki-
08-22-2011, 02:53 PM
but sasuke rarely uses it especially since hes not all that great with it, he would probly rather susanoo or ammy with his chakra (one of the big differences between him and itachi.)

Super Sanin 3
08-22-2011, 03:03 PM
but sasuke rarely uses it especially since hes not all that great with it, he would probly rather susanoo or ammy with his chakra (one of the big differences between him and itachi.)
Well considering Sasuke was getting beaten by the Raikage because of his superior speed, he has to go Susano'o if he wants to stand a chance against that speed + all his rasengan varients, which could probably k0 Sasuke too. I'm just wondering how durable it will be against RM naruto's other moves (especially a FRS if he can make a regular one in RM) what's the sage clone for btw?

-nagato_uzumaki-
08-22-2011, 04:08 PM
im pretty sure raikage was seen smashing through the ribs of susanoo as well,if raikage can do it then SM naruto can too or even rasengan could bust through the early susanoo and sasuke has not been able to instantly summon the full susanoo so maybe naruto can catch him early susanoo stage

king kakashi
08-22-2011, 10:06 PM
im pretty sure raikage was seen smashing through the ribs of susanoo as well,if raikage can do it then SM naruto can too or even rasengan could bust through the early susanoo and sasuke has not been able to instantly summon the full susanoo so maybe naruto can catch him early susanoo stage
susanoo can go full skeleten instantly and grow armor as it progresses
a only carcked a partial skeleten

king kakashi
08-22-2011, 10:08 PM
What the hell I didn't respond here I could have sworn I did.
Anyway I forgot what I said but doesn't this cover the whole Kirin thing:
a giant bolt of elemetal lightningisstopped via a comparably small frs not possible kirin obliterated the hill all frs has done is destroy way smaller targets

-nagato_uzumaki-
08-23-2011, 12:14 AM
imo its definetly not IC for sasuke to drop kirin as soon as the battle starts (he never used it once against danzou and he almost died) i dont even know if hes going to use it again...