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mrsticky005
08-09-2011, 07:40 AM
For a while Itachi worshippers thought that Itachi was the best thing
since wind-style sliced bread. But then a new challenger appeared...

DA DANZO.

Because Danzo spoke the truth and isn't a bishounen he was hated.
Itachi worshippers said that Danzo was scared of Itachi. Danzo worshippers
knew that not to be true. But it was difficult to find evidence until now.


One might think that despite having Izanagi that Danzo would lose
because even without the seal on his arm, Itachi could do a MS
technique before Danzo could do the hand seals for Izanagi.

But there's something else Danzo has...Shisui's eye.

But Shisui's eye isn't that strong, right?

WRONG!

The most recent chapter has confirmed that Shisui's eye is
powerful enough to be used on Itachi himself and considering
Itachi planned for it to be used against EMS Sasuke it's
even more powerful and since Shisui's eye unlike MS
does not require eye contact Danzo wins.

Danzo > Itachi= Fact.

Now what about Sasuke? Do remember that Danzo was not
able to use Shisui's eye against him since the fight was too
soon after he used it on Mifune. Had Foo and Torune not
been too hasty against Madara it would have been
ready and Danzo would have defeated Sasuke with Shisui's eye.


Danzo > Sasuke= Fact.

That is all. :cool:

royelric
08-09-2011, 07:51 AM
How Is He Better If Sasuke Beat Him

mrsticky005
08-09-2011, 07:58 AM
How Is He Better If Sasuke Beat Him

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/3885528/480/Picture-Box/wolverine-facepalm.gif?v0


Did you NOT read the part where Danzo did not have Shisui's eye
active during the battle? Also I'm sure you must have forgotten
how Karin healed Sasuke after Sasuke and Danzo impaled themselves.
If Karin wasn't there the best Sasuke could hope for is a double KO.

Midnight789
08-09-2011, 08:03 AM
For a while Itachi worshippers thought that Itachi was the best thing
since wind-style sliced bread. But then a new challenger appeared...

DA DANZO.

Because Danzo spoke the truth and isn't a bishounen he was hated.
Itachi worshippers said that Danzo was scared of Itachi. Danzo worshippers
knew that not to be true. But it was difficult to find evidence until now.


One might think that despite having Izanagi that Danzo would lose
because even without the seal on his arm, Itachi could do a MS
technique before Danzo could do the hand seals for Izanagi.

But there's something else Danzo has...Shisui's eye.

But Shisui's eye isn't that strong, right?

WRONG!

The most recent chapter has confirmed that Shisui's eye is
powerful enough to be used on Itachi himself and considering
Itachi planned for it to be used against EMS Sasuke it's
even more powerful and since Shisui's eye unlike MS
does not require eye contact Danzo wins.

Danzo > Itachi= Fact.

Now what about Sasuke? Do remember that Danzo was not
able to use Shisui's eye against him since the fight was too
soon after he used it on Mifune. Had Foo and Torune not
been too hasty against Madara it would have been
ready and Danzo would have defeated Sasuke with Shisui's eye.


Danzo > Sasuke= Fact.

That is all. :cool:

i actually read peoples post and i have to say that this is pretty GODD!!... but the only think im scratching my head about is that if Shisui needs eye contact. i think it does.. i maybe wrong though.. ill check the latest chapter again

mrsticky005
08-09-2011, 08:07 AM
i actually read peoples post and i have to say that this is pretty GODD!!... but the only think im scratching my head about is that if Shisui needs eye contact. i think it does.. i maybe wrong though.. ill check the latest chapter again

Nope it does not. Danzo was able to use it on Mifune even while
his eye was still bandaged.

Wooster
08-09-2011, 08:10 AM
Shisui does need eye contact, but Itachi be in big trouble if he couldn't look at Danzo.
That is sort of how amateratsu works. `:P

Although, somehow Danzo used Shisui's eye on Mifune even though the eye was covered by bandages.

Anyway, Danzo is better than Itachi. At least it took Madara, Sasuke and Karin to defeat Danzo's plan. Itachi destroyed his own last gasped plan after failing miserably in trying to get Sasuke to be normal. Who'd a thunk destroying your brother's mind and telling him he doesn't hate enough could cause problems?

mrsticky005
08-09-2011, 08:13 AM
Shisui does need eye contact, but Itachi be in big trouble if he couldn't look at Danzo.
That is sort of how amateratsu works. `:P

Although, somehow Danzo used Shisui's eye on Mifune even though the eye was covered by bandages.

Anyway, Danzo is better than Itachi. At least it took Madara, Sasuke and Karin to defeat Danzo's plan. Itachi destroyed his own last gasped plan after failing miserably in trying to get Sasuke to be normal. Who'd a thunk destroying your brother's mind and telling him he doesn't hate enough could cause problems?

Perhaps Danzo or Shisui just need to be looking at the person for it to work.

I suppose someone could say Danzo does have Shisui's MS
but then it would be pointless for Itachi to talk about Hashirama's
cells making it work faster. The whole point of that was to show
Danzo has Shisui's MS.

Wooster
08-09-2011, 08:16 AM
Perhaps Danzo or Shisui just need to be looking at the person for it to work.

I suppose someone could say Danzo does have Shisui's MS
but then it would be pointless for Itachi to talk about Hashirama's
cells making it work faster. The whole point of that was to show
Danzo has Shisui's MS.
Maybe. Shisui was and Danzo is the best genjutsu user ever.

Exactly, no point to bring it up otherwise. Plus, Danzo needed to recharge Shisui's eye after using agianst Mifune. He still had the eye for use after fighting agianst the fodder ninja and when he blitzed or teleporated against Sasuke. Actually, I assume Danzo did teleport now if that is suppose to be one of Shisui's powers.

mrsticky005
08-09-2011, 08:19 AM
Maybe. Shisui was and Danzo is the best genjutsu user ever.

Exactly, no point to bring it up otherwise. Plus, Danzo needed to recharge Shisui's eye after using agianst Mifune. He still had the eye for use after fighting agianst the fodder ninja and when he blitzed or teleporated against Sasuke. Actually, I assume Danzo did teleport now if that is suppose to be one of Shisui's powers.

So since Danzo is confirmed to be better than Itachi, think the tier list
is in need of a revamp?

Who do you think can beat Danzo now?

I say Madara with Rinnengan for one. I don't think Shisui's eye can
beat Rinnengan. Otherwise Rinnengan might as well not exist.

Sasuke726
08-09-2011, 08:25 AM
that was pretty good and it makes alot of sense.

Wooster
08-09-2011, 08:30 AM
So since Danzo is confirmed to be better than Itachi, think the tier list
is in need of a revamp?

Who do you think can beat Danzo now?

I say Madara with Rinnengan for one. I don't think Shisui's eye can
beat Rinnengan. Otherwise Rinnengan might as well not exist.You would have to convince TBC, and he is still on "We don't know Shisui's powers; therefore, lets completely ignore them." :roll:
And it is not certain that Danzo has MS, just very likely.

Naruto can as he is probably immune to permanent genjutsu like KB is now and he can take a hit from about anything and not die now.

I assume Sasuke with EMS will be more powerful too. Well, he has to be the same strength as Naruto or the whole narrative falls apart.

Kabuto maybe, depending on how many zombies he gets, but now it is a double edged sword because Danzo could turn on against him. Plus, Danzo can always seal the rest. Soo until Kabtuo's full powers are revealed, I say Danzo is ahead of him on the tier list.

Obviously, the Sage is still the top.

Skrall
08-09-2011, 08:48 AM
The title is misguiding.

Anyone who reads it, gets the impression Danzo is stronger than Itachi and Sasuke put together. And we all know that's not true.

Besides, it depends whether or not Danzo is successful in casting Kotoamatsukami. I admit that Sasuke would be easily if Danzo had the opportunaty of using this technique, but I'm not so keen about Itachi. Itachi knows how Kotoamatsukami works and he also knows Danzo possesses Shisui's right eye. The winner of the battle would be decided on who'd be able to successfully cast a genjutsu in their opponent first.

mrsticky005
08-09-2011, 08:58 AM
The title is misguiding.

Anyone who reads it, gets the impression Danzo is stronger than Itachi and Sasuke put together. And we all know that's not true.

Besides, it depends whether or not Danzo is successful in casting Kotoamatsukami. I admit that Sasuke would be easily if Danzo had the opportunaty of using this technique, but I'm not so keen about Itachi. Itachi knows how Kotoamatsukami works and he also knows Danzo possesses Shisui's right eye. The winner of the battle would be decided on who'd be able to successfully cast a genjutsu in their opponent first.


Well actually...Itachi seems pretty confident that Shisui's eye
would work on EMS which is in a sense Itachi + Sasuke.

Also Danzo would use Shisui's eye on one of them to attack the other.

Probably use it on Sasuke to kill Itachi since that would make the
fight drag out longer than if Itachi was wanting to kill Sasuke.

Itachi should then be weakened. Danzo kills him with Izanagi.

Of course it's rather iffy. I say Danzo vs the both could go either way.
It really depends on how much stamina Itachi would have left after
being forced to fight Sasuke.

mrsticky005
08-09-2011, 09:00 AM
Wow. I got a red rep saying Kakashi is better than Danzo.

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. Don't think so.

Sorry but as cool as Kakashi is. Danzo oblierates him. Shisui's eye or not.

Vivi
08-09-2011, 09:27 AM
How Is He Better If Sasuke Beat Him

Danzo's Eye was on cooldown.
When he and Sasuke struck each other simultaniously both collapsed.
While Sasuke had to be healed by Karin Danzo got up by himself.
Danzo had Sasuke sealed and was about to kill him until Susanoo suddenly evolved.
If it wasn't for Madara telling Sasuke to get away then Danzo would have sealed him away with his last Move.
Danzo could have used another Izanagi w/ Shisui's Eye when struck by Chidori Spear but decided not to.

No matter how you look at it Danzo was simply robbed and is the true Victor of their Battle.

mrsticky005
08-09-2011, 09:31 AM
Danzo's Eye was on cooldown.
When he and Sasuke struck each other simultaniously both collapsed.
While Sasuke had to be healed by Karin Danzo got up by himself.
Danzo had Sasuke sealed and was about to kill him until Susanoo suddenly evolved.
If it wasn't for Madara telling Sasuke to get away then Danzo would have sealed him away with his last Move.
Danzo could have used another Izanagi w/ Shisui's Eye when struck by Chidori Spear but decided not to.

No matter how you look at it Danzo was simply robbed and is the true Victor of their Battle.

Vivi speaks the TRUTH. :D

Wooster
08-09-2011, 09:35 AM
Wow. I got a red rep saying Kakashi is better than Danzo.

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. Don't think so.

Sorry but as cool as Kakashi is. Danzo oblierates him. Shisui's eye or not.
You didn't even mention Kakashi...

Still even the tier list have Danzo above Kakashi, right?

Skrall
08-09-2011, 10:31 AM
Danzo's Eye was on cooldown.
When he and Sasuke struck each other simultaniously both collapsed.
While Sasuke had to be healed by Karin Danzo got up by himself.


We also have to bear in mind, the disadvantage was on Sasuke's side when their battle began. He had already used a big portion of his chakra fighting the Kages. He also stated that Susanoo was causing his cells to go numb at some point. Karin's crappy medical ninjutsu may have restored the majority of his chakra, before Sasuke confronted Danzo but, I doubt her crappy medical skills were capable of restoring the totality of his chakra.


No matter how you look at it Danzo was simply robbed and is the true Victor of their Battle.


Pretty ironic, isn't it? He robbed 10 Uchiha eyes and placed into his arm (no self respect for the dead), and he presumably robbed Shisui's right eye. The robber got robbed :lol: It seems to me justice has been done.

Edward Newgate
08-09-2011, 10:42 AM
Maybe. Shisui was and Danzo is the best genjutsu user ever.

Exactly, no point to bring it up otherwise. Plus, Danzo needed to recharge Shisui's eye after using agianst Mifune. He still had the eye for use after fighting agianst the fodder ninja and when he blitzed or teleporated against Sasuke. Actually, I assume Danzo did teleport now if that is suppose to be one of Shisui's powers.
The teleportation was Izanagi, it has nothing to do with Shisui's powers. Shisui was also known for his Shunshin, fast movement, not teleportation.

Anyway, the only thing that puts Danzou above Itachi and Sasuke is Shisui's Genjutsu. Other than that, they're better than him at everything else.

Kakuzu
08-09-2011, 10:45 AM
Danzo should have killed Sasuke. He didn't even need Shisui's eye. If Karin hadn't been there, Sasuke would be dead right now with wind-style sliced bread lodged in his throat.


Danzo > Itachi? That's questionable... Depends on the cirumstances. If Danzo gets Shisui's eye, then I would give it to Danzo, but Itachi has more versatility; Mangekyo, Amaterasu, Susanoo, and a vast variety of genjutsu.

Super Sanin 3
08-09-2011, 11:29 AM
shisui's eye + 1rst hokage's cells = overpowered `o.o"

mrsticky005
08-09-2011, 11:54 AM
Danzo should have killed Sasuke. He didn't even need Shisui's eye. If Karin hadn't been there, Sasuke would be dead right now with wind-style sliced bread lodged in his throat.


Danzo > Itachi? That's questionable... Depends on the cirumstances. If Danzo gets Shisui's eye, then I would give it to Danzo, but Itachi has more versatility; Mangekyo, Amaterasu, Susanoo, and a vast variety of genjutsu.


That's what I'm arguing for. If Danzo just has Izanagi is likely Itachi
wins because Itachi would most likely outlast Danzo. That is assuming
Itachi can go over 10 or 11 minutes of Sussano spamming. Which
he probably can if you believe all the hype. It's hard to tell
since we only really seen sick Itachi and zombie Itachi.

But give Danzo Shisui's eye right from the start and it's game over.
Danzo would then beat Itachi.

Danzo with Shisui's Eye > Itachi

Danzo without Shisui's Eye < Itachi

Jose
08-09-2011, 12:27 PM
You forgot though the genjutsu that was powerful enough to work on Itachi himself was used during MS I doubt if it wasnt MS it would have work.

And sense we dont know if Danzo had Shisui Eye MS verison it is not confirmed all we know is he has it normal sharingan which can still control people without them knowing but the MS verison of it is what got Itachi not the normal verison.

Unless you can show me when Danzo was shown to use MS or even hinted?

So being that

Itachi > Danzo > Sasuke.

Vivi
08-09-2011, 01:22 PM
shisui's eye + 1rst hokage's cells = overpowered `o.o"

Makes me wonder how powerful it would have been in Madara's usage.

Unless you can show me when Danzo was shown to use MS or even hinted?


It seems Kotoamatsukami was a Ability of Shisui's MS as the Crow also had it.
And Ao requested to see Danzo's Eye in suspicion of manipulating Mifune with Shisui's Eye.

Due to Shisui having MS Ao requested to see it and see if it had Shisui's MS Patterns to be sure Danzo used it.

mrsticky005
08-09-2011, 01:32 PM
You forgot though the genjutsu that was powerful enough to work on Itachi himself was used during MS I doubt if it wasnt MS it would have work.

And sense we dont know if Danzo had Shisui Eye MS verison it is not confirmed all we know is he has it normal sharingan which can still control people without them knowing but the MS verison of it is what got Itachi not the normal verison.

Unless you can show me when Danzo was shown to use MS or even hinted?

So being that

Itachi > Danzo > Sasuke.

Sorry but no.

Itachi just set it up so it would automatically go off if it was faced
against MS. Danzo is able to use it whenever he feels like it so
as soon as he's faced against Itachi he wins. Just that simple.


Shisui's MS was the ability to control people without them
knowing they were being controlled. This is different from
genjutsu as you can know you are in a genjutsu. You
can't know if you are in Shisui's MS. It took Ao with
a Byukugan to know that Mifune was under Danzo/Shisui's spell.

Also there wouldn't be much point in Itachi explaining how
Hashirama's cells make Shisui's MS faster unless it was about Danzo.

Why would Madara want an eye that did simple Genjutsu?
Madara wanted Danzo's Shisui eye for it's MS.

Why would Danzo need to recharge for simple Genjutsu?


Although there is a chance it's not Shisui's MS that chance is like .0001%.

mrsticky005
08-09-2011, 01:33 PM
Makes me wonder how powerful it would have been in Madara's usage.


It seems Kotoamatsukami was a Ability of Shisui's MS as the Crow also had it.
And Ao requested to see Danzo's Eye in suspicion of manipulating Mifune with Shisui's Eye.

Due to Shisui having MS Ao requested to see it and see if it had Shisui's MS Patterns to be sure Danzo used it.

Excellent point.

Kakuzu
08-09-2011, 01:37 PM
Itachi is also Fire-Style chakra nature while Danzo is primarily a Wind-style chakra nature.

Fire is superior to Wind, giving Itachi an additional advantage if Shisui's eye is inactive or recharging.

Wooster
08-09-2011, 01:44 PM
The teleportation was Izanagi, it has nothing to do with Shisui's powers. Shisui was also known for his Shunshin, fast movement, not teleportation.

Anyway, the only thing that puts Danzou above Itachi and Sasuke is Shisui's Genjutsu. Other than that, they're better than him at everything else.No, you are wrong. Remember Danzo had used up Izanagi at that point. While it may be possible to use Shisui's eye for Izanagi, Madara clearly stated that Danzo did not. Somehow Danzo completely blitzed Sasuke's chidori. As Shisui's eye was active at the time, it is the likely culprit.

Clearly Danzo can think better than either Sasuke and Itachi as well.

That's what I'm arguing for. If Danzo just has Izanagi is likely Itachi
wins because Itachi would most likely outlast Danzo. That is assuming
Itachi can go over 10 or 11 minutes of Sussano spamming. Which
he probably can if you believe all the hype. It's hard to tell
since we only really seen sick Itachi and zombie Itachi.

But give Danzo Shisui's eye right from the start and it's game over.
Danzo would then beat Itachi.

Danzo with Shisui's Eye > Itachi


Danzo without Shisui's Eye < Itachi
What about Danzo using Shisui'e eye, but not the MS?

Itachi is also Fire-Style chakra nature while Danzo is primarily a Wind-style chakra nature.

Fire is superior to Wind, giving Itachi an additional advantage if Shisui's eye is inactive or recharging.
Except for the fact that Danzo has Izanagi.

Vivi
08-09-2011, 01:56 PM
Itachi is also Fire-Style chakra nature while Danzo is primarily a Wind-style chakra nature.

Fire is superior to Wind, giving Itachi an additional advantage if Shisui's eye is inactive or recharging.

Izanagi cancels out that weakness.

mrsticky005
08-09-2011, 01:56 PM
No, you are wrong. Remember Danzo had used up Izanagi at that point. While it may be possible to use Shisui's eye for Izanagi, Madara clearly stated that Danzo did not. Somehow Danzo completely blitzed Sasuke's chidori. As Shisui's eye was active at the time, it is the likely culprit.

Clearly Danzo can think better than either Sasuke and Itachi as well.


What about Danzo using Shisui'e eye, but not the MS?


Except for the fact that Danzo has Izanagi.

Here's the thing. Some say that Danzo wasn't using Shisui's MS
but I see no difference from what Danzo did and what Shisui's MS
is supposed to be. So they may as well be the same thing.
The only reason Mifune was able to know he was controlled
is because Ao, a guy with the all seeing Byukugan just
happened to be there. If he wasn't Mifune would have
made Danzo leader of the Kage Alliance and it would
have been all the Kages against Madara and Sasuke.

But nope. Ao ruined everything.

Danzo with Shisui's eye was able to control people without them knowing
they were being controlled.

Shisui's MS was able to control people without them knowing they
were being controlled.

What's the difference? Nothing.

The only possible difference is the level of power in the technique
but the only reason to think that is because you want Itachi to win.

Whereas everything else points to Danzo having Shisui's MS.

So Danzo > Itachi

Wooster
08-09-2011, 02:07 PM
Here's the thing. Some say that Danzo wasn't using Shisui's MS
but I see no difference from what Danzo did and what Shisui's MS
is supposed to be. So they may as well be the same thing.
The only reason Mifune was able to know he was controlled
is because Ao, a guy with the all seeing Byukugan just
happened to be there. If he wasn't Mifune would have
made Danzo leader of the Kage Alliance and it would
have been all the Kages against Madara and Sasuke.

But nope. Ao ruined everything.

Danzo with Shisui's eye was able to control people without them knowing
they were being controlled.

Shisui's MS was able to control people without them knowing they
were being controlled.

What's the difference? Nothing.

The only possible difference is the level of power in the technique
but the only reason to think that is because you want Itachi to win.

Whereas everything else points to Danzo having Shisui's MS.

So Danzo > ItachiAgreed, but not addressing my question.

I mean if Danzo could not use the super duper genjutsu for some reason, but could use his sharigan for standard abilities (seeing opponents jutsu ect.), would he be better or worse than Itachi?

Jose
08-09-2011, 02:07 PM
Makes me wonder how powerful it would have been in Madara's usage.


It seems Kotoamatsukami was a Ability of Shisui's MS as the Crow also had it.
And Ao requested to see Danzo's Eye in suspicion of manipulating Mifune with Shisui's Eye.

Due to Shisui having MS Ao requested to see it and see if it had Shisui's MS Patterns to be sure Danzo used it.

Ao never said anything about MS if Ao saw Shisui MS how would he still be there? We didnt even know Shisui had MS until the recent chapters.

Sorry but no.

Itachi just set it up so it would automatically go off if it was faced
against MS. Danzo is able to use it whenever he feels like it so
as soon as he's faced against Itachi he wins. Just that simple.


Shisui's MS was the ability to control people without them
knowing they were being controlled. This is different from
genjutsu as you can know you are in a genjutsu. You
can't know if you are in Shisui's MS. It took Ao with
a Byukugan to know that Mifune was under Danzo/Shisui's spell.

Also there wouldn't be much point in Itachi explaining how
Hashirama's cells make Shisui's MS faster unless it was about Danzo.

Why would Madara want an eye that did simple Genjutsu?
Madara wanted Danzo's Shisui eye for it's MS.

Why would Danzo need to recharge for simple Genjutsu?


Although there is a chance it's not Shisui's MS that chance is like .0001%.

What is simple about controling someone one without them knowing?

Maybe because it wasnt his eye?

We never saw Danzo with MS so all we can do is assume he does or doesnt.

I dont think it can be confirmed yet but it is a possibility.

.0001% I like the sound of that. lol

Super Sanin 3
08-17-2011, 08:41 PM
With the eye - Danzo wins via mind control hax
Without the eye - Danzo loses via MS hax

king kakashi
08-17-2011, 09:03 PM
at that point yes i would agree but now sasuke has the power of his eyes and itachi's in my opinion that surpases danzo
as for danzo bieng scared of itachi you realize itachi had shisui eye as well

Super Sanin 3
08-17-2011, 09:08 PM
as for danzo bieng scared of itachi you realize itachi had shisui eye as well
Yeah but i didnt include it because of the 10 year thing, makes it useless now

king kakashi
08-19-2011, 12:54 AM
both eye's have the ten year wait thing so itachi used his on himself and danzo used his trying to manipulate the 5 kage council

Vivi
08-19-2011, 01:15 AM
Ao never said anything about MS if Ao saw Shisui MS how would he still be there? We didnt even know Shisui had MS until the recent chapters.



Ao requested to see the Eye below the bandages to see if Danzo used Mind Control.
Thus he must have wanted to see if it has the MS pattern otherwise what would be the point if he would just wanna see a Sharingan?

He knew it was a Sharingan already so no need to request seeing it unless to check that there is something ON the Sharingan that proves Danzo did use Shisuis Mind Control.

both eye's have the ten year wait thing so itachi used his on himself and danzo used his trying to manipulate the 5 kage council

Not for Danzo.

Wooster
08-19-2011, 06:23 AM
Ao requested to see the Eye below the bandages to see if Danzo used Mind Control.
Thus he must have wanted to see if it has the MS pattern otherwise what would be the point if he would just wanna see a Sharingan?

He knew it was a Sharingan already so no need to request seeing it unless to check that there is something ON the Sharingan that proves Danzo did use Shisuis Mind Control.

That brings up an interesting point. Danzo's eye was covered by a bandage. Does Shisui's Kotoamatsukami, if that is indeed what Danzo was using, not even require eye contact? If so that trumps all sharingan genjutsu instantly.

Shikamaru Nara
08-19-2011, 09:24 AM
At first, I will admit that I didn't believe this, but upon further speculation I agree.

Danzo's eye is the only thing that makes him stronger though. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/hm.png

Wooster
08-19-2011, 09:36 AM
The same could be said of Sasuke. `:P

J-Sun Tasogare
08-19-2011, 02:43 PM
I think Danzo is on par with Itachi imo, we know he took Shisui's eye, we don't know how he did it it could've been something completely different from taking it from him by force. There is also the fact the Itachi had been able to hide the eye from Danzo the entire time, it's obvious they had clashed before, and Itachi came out unscathed, or not mortally wounded, we also don't even know either of their extent's yet as Itachi has just started showing stuff, and Danzo is dead, so imo neither one is greater than the other, YET. Also Danzo has to have the MS sharingan to be able to negate another's sharingan, which he won't have for another century from when he used it iirc.

Super Sanin 3
08-19-2011, 02:46 PM
Couldnt that battle go exactly as Sasuke vs Danzo w/o the eye?

Wooster
08-19-2011, 06:20 PM
Except Itachi has his sword thingy. Whether you can Izanagi out of that is debatable.

Super Sanin 3
08-19-2011, 06:48 PM
Except Itachi has his sword thingy. Whether you can Izanagi out of that is debatable.
Well im not sure doesn't Izanagi > Susanoo in mythology? Alot of stuff in naruto goes by it

jkl10155
08-19-2011, 06:52 PM
Izangi literally makes you an illusion or unreal for a moment as for me I don't believe you can seal an illusion but also I don't think Izangi can be controlled it just makes everything that can harm the user an illusion so I'm also not really sure if sealing would count as harm to Izangi lastly if Itachi did it quick without Danzo being able to activate it I don't see him getting out of it but there is a lot of holes with my reasoning so I'm really not sure hopefully they'll reveal that to us later in the manga. :|

Wooster
08-19-2011, 06:52 PM
But the sword is from another myth I think.

Super Sanin 3
08-19-2011, 06:57 PM
If i remember right susanoo used the sword as a weapon (or as a gift i forgot) but izanagi gave birth to susanoo

king kakashi
08-19-2011, 09:52 PM
shisuis eye is ms itachis version will react to ms so the attacks would cancle each other out in wich case danzo would probrably win due to the fact that he knows of tskumiyomi and can deal with itachi's ms because it won't last as long as sasuke's

as for him beating sasuke we can't be sure sasuke has ems now so we have no idea how the eye would have affected him but as far as we know
ems>>>>>>>>>>>>>ms
heres something to think about itachi and danzo are very much a like they both have intresting ways of protecting konoha they both have shisuis eye and they both were killed indirectly by sasuke

Super Sanin 3
08-19-2011, 10:01 PM
Izangi literally makes you an illusion or unreal for a moment as for me I don't believe you can seal an illusion but also I don't think Izangi can be controlled it just makes everything that can harm the user an illusion so I'm also not really sure if sealing would count as harm to Izangi lastly if Itachi did it quick without Danzo being able to activate it I don't see him getting out of it but there is a lot of holes with my reasoning so I'm really not sure hopefully they'll reveal that to us later in the manga.
I also dont think the sword will be able to seal it off but you never know. Danzo has been known to get caught before activating it so that's also a possibility too. Not too sure if we'll learn about it later in the manga tho
shisuis eye is ms itachis version will react to ms so the attacks would cancle each other out in wich case danzo would probrably win due to the fact that he knows of tskumiyomi and can deal with itachi's ms because it won't last as long as sasuke's

as for him beating sasuke we can't be sure sasuke has ems now so we have no idea how the eye would have affected him but as far as we know
ems>>>>>>>>>>>>>ms
Mmm Itachi's Tsukyomi is considered more powerful since it can control time though. BTW why do you think it wont last as long as Sasuke's? He seemed to use it fine when we saw him last chapter. Anyways since MS Sasuke beat him i'm guessing an EMS sasuke would do the same wouldnt you? `:P

king kakashi
08-19-2011, 11:01 PM
Mmm Itachi's Tsukyomi is considered more powerful since it can control time though. BTW why do you think it wont last as long as Itachi's? He seemed to use it fine when we saw him last chapter. Anyways since MS Sasuke beat him i'm guessing an EMS sasuke would do the same wouldnt you? `:P
somewhat
itachi is a zombie right now
exactly

jkl10155
08-20-2011, 11:51 AM
Not too sure if we'll learn about it later in the manga tho


Just wishfull thinking. but that makes this itachi danzo thing hard to predict.