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Phoenix Wright
07-23-2011, 07:06 PM
The Minato from before the chapter 540's, well, I'm pretty sure everyone knew that's what Minato was capable of from the beginning so it's pretty irrelevant. Just wanna see what you guys think.

heroeking
07-23-2011, 07:36 PM
The Minato from before the chapter 540's, well, I'm pretty sure everyone knew that's what Minato was capable of from the beginning so it's pretty irrelevant. Just wanna see what you guys think.


Minato gets hooked with a mind transfer unless he has prep.

Vivi
07-23-2011, 07:50 PM
How will Ino-Shika-Cho deal with Gamabunta?

Even then I doubt the 3 can do much considering his Body Flicker is insane.
Chapter 240 Page 9 and 10.

Minato's Bag was like 2cm off the Ground and reached the Iwa Nin before it hit the Ground.

Also is this the previous or current Ino-Shika-Cho?

heroeking
07-23-2011, 08:06 PM
How will Ino-Shika-Cho deal with Gamabunta?

Even then I doubt the 3 can do much considering his Body Flicker is insane.
Chapter 240 Page 9 and 10.

Minato's Bag was like 2cm off the Ground and reached the Iwa Nin before it hit the Ground.

Also is this the previous or current Ino-Shika-Cho?

If he summons he'll get mind transfered. He has no prep so as soon as he trows out his kunai he'll get mind transfered.

Vivi
07-23-2011, 08:09 PM
If he summons he'll get mind transfered.

He has no prep so as soon as he trows out his kunai he'll get mind transfered.


Enough time for Minato to go in for the Strike.

He doesn't need FTG
Body Flicker =/= FTG.
FTG is T/S Jutsu and Body Flicker is basic Ninjutsu.
And Minato is the fastest one we seen yet to use it.

heroeking
07-23-2011, 08:22 PM
Enough time for Minato to go in for the Strike.

He doesn't need FTG
Body Flicker =/= FTG.
FTG is T/S Jutsu and Body Flicker is basic Ninjutsu.
And Minato is the fastest one we seen yet to use it.

No Minato placed a seal on his foot, that how he moved so quickly. chapter 240 page 9 at the bottom you can see it.

Nick Tasogare
07-23-2011, 08:24 PM
No Minato placed a seal on his foot, that how he moved so quickly. chapter 240 page 9 at the bottom you can see it.


That's not his foot, it's the other person's foot.

J-Sun Tasogare
07-23-2011, 08:25 PM
How will Ino-Shika-Cho deal with Gamabunta?

Even then I doubt the 3 can do much considering his Body Flicker is insane.
Chapter 240 Page 9 and 10.

Minato's Bag was like 2cm off the Ground and reached the Iwa Nin before it hit the Ground.

Also is this the previous or current Ino-Shika-Cho?
Giant Choji butter fly bomb?

Vivi
07-23-2011, 08:25 PM
No Minato placed a seal on his foot, that how he moved so quickly. chapter 240 page 9 at the bottom you can see it.


And that changes nothing as it was stated by Rin to be Body Flicker.

Giant Choji butter fly bomb? Question is if he can do the same to Chouji as with Menacing Ball.

Also we need comfirmation on who this is as there are 2 Ino-Shika-Cho Teams.

heroeking
07-23-2011, 08:27 PM
And that changes nothing as it was stated by Rin to be Body Flicker.



Question is if he can do the same to Chouji as with Menacing Ball.

Too bad he was shown using the seal.

heroeking
07-23-2011, 08:28 PM
That's not his foot, it's the other person's foot.

I know that. Captain Obvious strikes again! JK

Sasuke726
07-23-2011, 08:29 PM
Minato's speed feats and variety of attacks pawn ino-shika-cho after a good 3 minutes of fighting.

J-Sun Tasogare
07-23-2011, 08:30 PM
And that changes nothing as it was stated by Rin to be Body Flicker.

Question is if he can do the same to Chouji as with Menacing Ball.

Also we need comfirmation on who this is as there are 2 Ino-Shika-Cho Teams. I don't think so, he had prep cause he saw it being charged, plus it's a different thing, but maybe

I know that. Captain Obvious strikes again! JK
They way you typed your post made it seem like you were talking about Minato.

Nick Tasogare
07-23-2011, 08:33 PM
I know that. Captain Obvious strikes again! JK

Nice to see you again Captain Diphead.

I don't think so, he had prep cause he saw it being charged, plus it's a different thing, but maybe


They way you typed your post made it seem like you were talking about Minato.

^

heroeking
07-23-2011, 08:33 PM
I don't think so, he had prep cause he saw it being charged, plus it's a different thing, but maybe


They way you typed your post made it seem like you were talking about Minato.

my fault if it did.

Nice to see you again Captain Diphead.



^

hmp...haha I guess captain obvious doesn't take abbreviations into consideration.


Minato's speed feats and variety of attacks pawn ino-shika-cho after a good 3 minutes of fighting.

What speed feats besides s/t jutsu. All he has is reaper death god, rasengan, and gamabunta summon.

Phoenix Wright
07-23-2011, 10:01 PM
Since you keep insisting, yeah just to make sure if it wasn't obvious already by Ino Shika Cho I meant Ino, Shikamaru and Chouji, not their parents.

So what exactly can they do to lay a finger on Minato? Ino's really fast enough to use Mind Transfer on Minato? Enlightenment?

Uchiha Sora
07-23-2011, 10:36 PM
Even then I doubt the 3 can do much considering his Body Flicker is insane.
Chapter 240 Page 9 and 10.
?

wdf? I didn't know the Kakashi Chronicles was in the manga.... I always wondered why people referenced it in debates, cuz I always thought it was just filler lol`:shock:

Lord Jiraiya
07-23-2011, 10:48 PM
Dont Minato have intel on there clan's? He was the hokage and had to know how each team worked right? Since he knows all there jutsu it'll be hard for them to hit him with them.

Phoenix Wright
07-23-2011, 11:04 PM
Dont Minato have intel on there clan's? He was the hokage and had to know how each team worked right? Since he knows all there jutsu it'll be hard for them to hit him with them.
Even without knowledge, three simple chuunin alone would doubtfully be able to lay a finger on Minato, just wanted to see those arguments who think they can lay one on him, let alone win.
wdf? I didn't know the Kakashi Chronicles was in the manga.... I always wondered why people referenced it in debates, cuz I always thought it was just filler lol`:shock:
Yeah it's right after Part 1 ends, and right before Part 2. Just helping.

Lord Jiraiya
07-24-2011, 01:53 AM
I dont see how they could beat him. Their 50 meters apart that would give Minato enough time to throw his kunai all over the place.

Maikeru D. Shinigami
07-24-2011, 02:04 AM
I don't usually go with speedblitz, but this is Minato. Neither, Ino, Shikamaru or Choji are fast enough to get him. They'll have to come up with a pretty ingenious plan just to touch Minato.

THE X UCHIHA
07-24-2011, 06:39 AM
Q1/ if Minato scattered his kunais , Could Shika use Kagemane Shuriken no jutsu and throw them away or stab Minato ,as he did with Hidan , Chapter 332. ?

Q2 / if Minato summoned Gamabunta , could Choji Enlarge himself to Gama size and Punch him before Gama burn him with fire ?

Q3/ if the distance was close , would Ino be able to MindTransfer Minato before he Rasengan Shika , at the time Choji is busy fighting Gama ?

and if the distance was like 20 meters and Gama was summoned .. Maybe Ino can MindTransfer him xD !

However ,all the questions above are speculations which means they're not certain or not necessary to happen.

and I say Minato would win with Moderate difficulty but he would need for Gama's help .
Minato would scatter 3 to 4 kunais within few seconds , teleport himself and Rasengan Shika , kill Ino by stabbing her and then teleport himself to choji if still alive and not cooked by Gama's Fire.

Phoenix Wright
07-24-2011, 09:56 AM
Q1/ if Minato scattered his kunais , Could Shika use Kagemane Shuriken no jutsu and throw them away or stab Minato ,as he did with Hidan , Chapter 332. ?

Q2 / if Minato summoned Gamabunta , could Choji Enlarge himself to Gama size and Punch him before Gama burn him with fire ?

Q3/ if the distance was close , would Ino be able to MindTransfer Minato before he Rasengan Shika , at the time Choji is busy fighting Gama ?

and if the distance was like 20 meters and Gama was summoned .. Maybe Ino can MindTransfer him xD !

However ,all the questions above are speculations which means they're not certain or not necessary to happen.

and I say Minato would win with Moderate difficulty but he would need for Gama's help .
Minato would scatter 3 to 4 kunais within few seconds , teleport himself and Rasengan Shika , kill Ino by stabbing her and then teleport himself to choji if still alive and not cooked by Gama's Fire.
A1) If Suckamaru throws away his shuriken, Minato can still teleport to them, and if not it seems he has countless amounts. But they aren't going to be keeping up with Minato in the first place.
A2)If Chouji expands he just becomes a bigger target to get his head chopped off by Gamabunta's swords.
A3)Not likely, Minato's too fast, last I recall her max speed mind transfer was a bird and before they realize why the kunai missed them, they all get rasengans in their backs, or faces if they turn around and die.

Mind transfer on Gama would be pretty epic.
If the distance was close though, I'm pretty sure Minato could just pull off some Yatai Kuzushi and kill them all instantly anyway.

Kazumi Saitama
07-24-2011, 03:13 PM
Is this a spite thread? :/

How does Ino, Shikamaru or Chouji faintly touch Minato?

Minato massacred entire shinobi quadrants before anyone knew what the hell was going on. Minato solos.

heroeking
07-24-2011, 03:34 PM
Is this a spite thread? :/

How does Ino, Shikamaru or Chouji faintly touch Minato?

Minato massacred entire shinobi quadrants before anyone knew what the hell was going on. Minato solos.


S/t. Minato gets mind transfered/ the end. Seriously going by hype Minato wins. Going by feats In-Shiko-Cho wins.

Kazumi Saitama
07-24-2011, 04:04 PM
S/t. Minato gets mind transfered/ the end. Seriously going by hype Minato wins. Going by feats In-Shiko-Cho wins.


Can Ino Mind Transfer faster than Raikage can attack?

heroeking
07-24-2011, 04:06 PM
Can Ino Mind Transfer faster than Raikage can attack?

Again Minato was using s/t. He placed a seal on Killerbee's back.

Kazumi Saitama
07-24-2011, 04:08 PM
Again Minato was using s/t. He placed a seal on Killerbee's back.


Minato can casually set seals by merely touching objects or people.

heroeking
07-24-2011, 04:10 PM
Minato can casually set seals by merely touching objects or people.

That's the point. He has nothing to touch except himself or the ground below him which still results in a mind transfer.

Phoenix Wright
07-24-2011, 04:16 PM
Ino can't mind transfer 50 Meters(someone said 50 meters is default so alright) before Minato can throw a kunai. And no it wasn't a spite thread it might seem like that to us sure, but I had a feeling some people would debate for the trio.

heroeking
07-24-2011, 04:29 PM
Ino can't mind transfer 50 Meters(someone said 50 meters is default so alright) before Minato can throw a kunai. And no it wasn't a spite thread it might seem like that to us sure, but I had a feeling some people would debate for the trio.

50 meters is like 165 feet so 54 yards. I sure she could.

Kazumi Saitama
07-24-2011, 04:34 PM
That's the point. He has nothing to touch except himself or the ground below him which still results in a mind transfer.


1. Ino is not hitting anything 50 meters away.
2. Minato can throw a kunai faster than she can Mind Transfer.
3. Minato can engage in CQC.

heroeking
07-24-2011, 04:40 PM
1. Ino is not hitting anything 50 meters away.
2. Minato can throw a kunai faster than she can Mind Transfer.
3. Minato can engage in CQC.

As soon as Minato starts reaching for his Kunai, Mind Transfer/ the end.

Feats>Hype

Kazumi Saitama
07-24-2011, 04:41 PM
As soon as Minato starts reaching for his Kunai, Mind Transfer/ the end.

Feats>Hype


Again, Ino is not hitting anything 50 meters away. Mind Transfer is a short ranged jutsu.

heroeking
07-24-2011, 04:56 PM
Again, Ino is not hitting anything 50 meters away. Mind Transfer is a short ranged jutsu.

Proof

Phoenix Wright
07-24-2011, 04:59 PM
Weren't you the one to first claim Ino can use Mind Transfer before Minato(of all people) could react? Where's your proof?

Kazumi Saitama
07-24-2011, 05:09 PM
Proof

Name a single person hit with Mind Transfer that was greater than 20 meters away from the caster.

heroeking
07-24-2011, 06:39 PM
Ino-Shika-Cho vs Three Sound Nin

DarkvoidDweller
07-24-2011, 06:46 PM
Even if Minato didn't throw his special kunai they still wouldn't stand a chance, yes they are all powerful ninja but they are no where near the level of Minato. I mean he didn't become the Fourth Hokage for nothing after all.

DarkvoidDweller
07-24-2011, 06:49 PM
As soon as Minato starts reaching for his Kunai, Mind Transfer/ the end.

Feats>Hype


Even if Ino did use her Mind Transfer on Minato, which she couldn't, he could easily break out of it, like any other strongly willed person in naruto.

heroeking
07-24-2011, 07:31 PM
Even if Ino did use her Mind Transfer on Minato, which she couldn't, he could easily break out of it, like any other strongly willed person in naruto.

As soon as he caught/ the end.

Kazumi Saitama
07-24-2011, 07:40 PM
Ino-Shika-Cho vs Three Sound Nin

Manga chapter and page?

heroeking
07-24-2011, 08:38 PM
Chapter 55 page 11

Vivi
07-24-2011, 09:23 PM
Chapter 55 page 11

First of all Page 12.
Kin was right beside Zaku.

Page 16 we see how far Zaku was away.
Note that due to Kin having been besides him she was on his Location.
Zaku's height is noted as 157cm.
Using a Measuring Tape he was 5mm big on the Page.

Distance between Zaku and Shikamaru is about 4,5cm.
In other words distance given would be enough to line up Zaku 9x on that Page.
Basically meaning:
Zaku's height x 9.
1,57m x 9.
Which is 14.13m.

Not that it matters.
Page 16 should be obvious to the naked Eye that it's not 20m.

Even if Kin was 2-3m away from Zaku we still get 16-17m.

Also:
OP has set no changes so this Match is under default rules.
Including the 50m.
Even IF Ino would be able to use it over 20m it's still meaningless as the default distance is 50.
So showing Ino can use Mind Transfer over that range doesn't mean she can do so to a 50m range.

http://dobrochan.ru/src/gif/1107/edgeworth-bow%28a%29%5B1%5D.gif

heroeking
07-24-2011, 09:47 PM
First of all Page 12.
Kin was right beside Zaku.

Page 16 we see how far Zaku was away.
Note that due to Kin having been besides him she was on his Location.
Zaku's height is noted as 157cm.
Using a Measuring Tape he was 5mm big on the Page.

Distance between Zaku and Shikamaru is about 4,5cm.
In other words distance given would be enough to line up Zaku 9x on that Page.
Basically meaning:
Zaku's height x 9.
1,57m x 9.
Which is 14.13m.

Not that it matters.
Page 16 should be obvious to the naked Eye that it's not 20m.

Even if Kin was 2-3m away from Zaku we still get 16-17m.

Also:
OP has set no changes so this Match is under default rules.
Including the 50m.
Even IF Ino would be able to use it over 20m it's still meaningless as the default distance is 50.
So showing Ino can use Mind Transfer over that range doesn't mean she can do so to a 50m range.

http://dobrochan.ru/src/gif/1107/edgeworth-bow%28a%29%5B1%5D.gif


Haha Your opinion fails you can clearly
see on the pages that they were moving around. Chapter 56 is all I need. Look at the distance.

Kazumi Saitama
07-25-2011, 02:20 AM
Dude, you fail. Firstly, Ino used Mind Transfer in Chapter 55, not 56. So, the distance in Chapter 56 is irrelevant. Secondly, the fact that Ino has never successfully hit anyone with Mind Transfer over 20 meters proves the jutsu is short ranged. End of story. Ino is not hitting anyone 50 meters away.

Vivi
07-25-2011, 02:49 AM
Haha Your opinion fails you can clearly
see on the pages that they were moving around.

Chapter 56 is all I need. Look at the distance.

It's not an opinion they are facts.

Page 10.
Zaku is landing.

Page 12.
Zaku is still on the Ground with Kin beside him.

Page 13.
Still on the Ground.
Kin flying off.

Page 16 is the first time we see Zaku move as all he did was stand up.
Moving yes.
Minimal though.
All Zaku did was stand up nothing more.
Distance is still the same towards Kin until she got sent off.


Dosu and Shikamaru didn't move as until Page 14 Shadow Posession was in Action.
And on Page 10 and 16 you can see neither of them moved a Step.
Dosu and Shikamaru still in front of each other.

Chapter 56 Page 3:
Nothings changed apart from Sasuke appearing and being a different Angle.

And it's AFTER that People started to truly move.

Phoenix Wright
07-25-2011, 03:02 AM
First of all Page 12.
Kin was right beside Zaku.

Page 16 we see how far Zaku was away.
Note that due to Kin having been besides him she was on his Location.
Zaku's height is noted as 157cm.
Using a Measuring Tape he was 5mm big on the Page.

Distance between Zaku and Shikamaru is about 4,5cm.
In other words distance given would be enough to line up Zaku 9x on that Page.
Basically meaning:
Zaku's height x 9.
1,57m x 9.
Which is 14.13m.

Not that it matters.
Page 16 should be obvious to the naked Eye that it's not 20m.

Even if Kin was 2-3m away from Zaku we still get 16-17m.

Also:
OP has set no changes so this Match is under default rules.
Including the 50m.
Even IF Ino would be able to use it over 20m it's still meaningless as the default distance is 50.
So showing Ino can use Mind Transfer over that range doesn't mean she can do so to a 50m range.

http://dobrochan.ru/src/gif/1107/edgeworth-bow%28a%29%5B1%5D.gif

http://doulifee.com//Storage/aceatt/GyakutenHeroes/h-objection.gif

http://doulifee.com//Storage/aceatt/GyakutenHeroes/1-ani-phoenix-points1.gif
Was that really required, Mr. Edgeworth?
http://doulifee.com//Storage/aceatt/GyakutenHeroes/1-ani-phoenix-sweats.gif

Vivi
07-25-2011, 03:22 AM
http://doulifee.com//Storage/aceatt/GyakutenHeroes/h-objection.gif

http://doulifee.com//Storage/aceatt/GyakutenHeroes/1-ani-phoenix-points1.gif
Was that really required, Mr. Edgeworth?
http://doulifee.com//Storage/aceatt/GyakutenHeroes/1-ani-phoenix-sweats.gif

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JLy_9qnjEcI/RvV3ZOCGL9I/AAAAAAAAAMs/dRD55XJibqU/s320/phoenix-coffeed%28b%29.gif

Why yes.

Back on Topic:
MDyUvZkJiSc&NR=1

As I have pointed out by using simple Math the distance between Ino and Kin was a maximum of 17m not 20+ as Heroe *checks* Heroeking thought it was.

And as stated even if the 20m were indeed reached there has still yet proof to be provided that Ino can use it at a range of 50m.

Also I add in that we have yet to see Shikamaru use a 50m Shadow Posession.

Chouji is the only one who stands a chance at crossing that distance shortly and even he needs to get into Butterfly Mode and turn Giant.

Ergo:
Minato has more than enough time to spread his Kunai out.

Once that is done Shikamaru and Ino can say Bye-bi.

Unless they now have some massive Durability Feats what will hit them is:
503 Page 3.

Thus the only left will be Chouji.

I admit it is arguable whether or not Minato can do the same to him as he did to Menacing Ball one should note:
Logicwise Minato should in no way lose to Chouji.

THE X UCHIHA
07-25-2011, 05:01 AM
Minato can casually set seals by merely touching objects or people.


read the Original Post !

The Minato from before the chapter 540's, well, I'm pretty sure everyone knew that's what Minato was capable of from the beginning so it's pretty irrelevant. Just wanna see what you guys think.

__________________________

eventhen , Minato wins with moderate difficulty , read my last post.

Vivi
07-25-2011, 05:09 AM
read the Original Post !

Before 540.

Your Point?

Or don't you know Minato could already set seals onto People in Kakashi Gaiden?
Chapter 240.
Did so to Miharu.

Minato showed nothing we didn't know already during the Flashback

THE X UCHIHA
07-25-2011, 06:29 AM
Before 540.

Your Point?

Or don't you know Minato could already set seals onto People in Kakashi Gaiden?
Chapter 240.
Did so to Miharu.

Minato showed nothing we didn't know already during the Flashback

that was my opinion about the thread , see page 2 to make sure.
and to be honest I didn't know that he can put seals on people before chapter 541.

I say Minato would win with Moderate difficulty but he would need for Gama's help .
Minato would scatter 3 to 4 kunais within few seconds , teleport himself and Rasengan Shika , kill Ino by stabbing her and then teleport himself to choji if still alive and not cooked by Gama's Fire.

Phoenix Wright
07-25-2011, 07:18 AM
Vivi that's cheating, posting AA music makes you want to keep typing and sound like you're owning.
Which is what I noticed you did too http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

While we're on the subject- yeah Minato can do everything he showed after 540 before 540, I didn't think there was any question about it.

Also, while we're on music subject, type as many Ace Attorney tracks as you can into Youtube and play them all at once, once you go multiple your ears will never be satisfied with just one. Try it, join us.

Also, Minato has mass speed advantage being Minato, and last I checked wasn't Ino limited to like random bird speed or something with Mind Transfer? And how does it cross 50 meters before Minato can react? Well the answer is it can't but, I put it into the form of a question just because.

Kuromaki
07-25-2011, 10:03 AM
http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=5120610

50m is a big enough distance for Minato to throw even a single kunai, once he does that it's over. And even without the kunai there's nothing stopping him from blitzing them or having Gamabunta sit on them the instant the fight starts.

Vivi
07-25-2011, 10:18 AM
Phoenix: Ino-Shika-Cho defeats Minato.I got Evidence supporting my point!
Godot: I have Coffee that supports my Caffeine Addiction.
Phoenix: What's that got to do with anything?
Godot: Oh, Sorry I thought we were telling the Thread some BS.

50m is a big enough distance for Minato to throw even a single kunai

Why a single one when he can go for 30?/zaru

Phoenix Wright
07-25-2011, 10:32 AM
It was 28 I just counted http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

Vivi
07-25-2011, 10:34 AM
It was 28 I just counted http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

Then you forget 2 who are hard to see cause they're almost outta screen.http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

Sec Imma pm you something that shows ya.

Phoenix Wright
07-25-2011, 10:40 AM
Holy ;);););) you were serious there's 30, damn I thought I got the offscreen ones.

Trying to fool me aren't you. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/hm.png

Aren't you! http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/chmp.png

Vivi
07-25-2011, 10:45 AM
Holy ;);););) you were serious there's 30, damn I thought I got the offscreen ones.

Trying to fool me aren't you. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/hm.png

Aren't you! http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/chmp.png

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/distr2.gifMaybe.