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NagatoGod_of_Pain
07-21-2011, 05:16 PM
Location: Open field

Mindset: BL

Distance: 50m

Knowledge: Guy knows Gaara can control sand, nothing more. Gaara knows Guy can use gates.

deidara#1
07-21-2011, 05:28 PM
If Gaara is smart he would use his sand cloud to get out of distance of Guy. Which would put Guy at a serious disadvantage.

[Shikamaru]
07-21-2011, 05:58 PM
50m is more than enough for Gaara to get airborne.

Even in gates, Gai is useless below.

Sand burial when gates subside.

Vivi
07-21-2011, 06:06 PM
How strong is Guys physical Power in higher Gates state?

3rd Raikage was able to punch through the Sand while being in Karura Coffin.
Just wondering if its anywhere near it.

NagatoGod_of_Pain
07-21-2011, 06:07 PM
Just wanted to point out that Guy opens Gates much faster than Lee.

He's also jumped off of his turtle summon to incredible lengths. Combine that with speed and Gaara shouldn't be able to get very high.

321zigzag3
07-21-2011, 06:08 PM
I also like to point out Hirodura or Afternoon Tiger is likely to KO Gaara too.

[Shikamaru]
07-21-2011, 06:12 PM
Just wanted to point out that Guy opens Gates much faster than Lee.

He's also jumped off of his turtle summon to incredible lengths. Combine that with speed and Gaara shouldn't be able to get very high.
Interesting, does he walk on the air once he gets there?

I assume Gaara clearly would have sand guard up while ascending.

Vivi
07-21-2011, 06:15 PM
Would Gaara even go into the air when SoM is Bloodlust?
Bloodlusted characters fear nothing, and will allow themselves to be injured to any degree as long as it leads to a higher probability of defeating their opponent.

[Shikamaru]
07-21-2011, 06:22 PM
Yes, considering his "highest probability" of defeating him is ascending.

Midnight789
07-23-2011, 07:19 PM
;5279110']Yes, considering his "highest probability" of defeating him is ascending.

Gai has been shown to leap very high in the air... adding the turtle will just make things worse for Gaara.. i say morning peacock should do the trick. which is done in the air..

Step 1:: Kicked in the left cheek,,, opponent starts falling in mid air

Step 2::: KO Part ( Gai Throws 1000s of punches which is set on fire)

Step 3:: Opponent falls to his death covered in hot youth!!! lol

DarkvoidDweller
07-24-2011, 06:56 PM
I would say if Gaara was smart he would begin to take flight while sending his sand to attack Gai and keep him from coming any closer. Then he would simply wait for the gates to (for lake of a better word) turn off and then hit and take Gai out uses something like the sand coffin

[Shikamaru]
07-29-2011, 11:28 AM
Gai has been shown to leap very high in the air... adding the turtle will just make things worse for Gaara.. i say morning peacock should do the trick. which is done in the air..

Step 1:: Kicked in the left cheek,,, opponent starts falling in mid air

Step 2::: KO Part ( Gai Throws 1000s of punches which is set on fire)

Step 3:: Opponent falls to his death covered in hot youth!!! lol
I fail to see sand guard in this equation.

Gai is not ascending high enough, let alone getting past Gaara's sand guard if he reaches him. Thus he gets blocked, falls, ascends back up but Gaara is now too high.

Shikamaru Nara
07-29-2011, 11:32 AM
Gaara wins, only because of the fact that the odds are stacked against him, knowing that Gaara can float up in the air. How does Gai get there without getting owned by sand?

He can't.

Gaara buries Gai in sand.

Kuromaki
07-29-2011, 11:38 AM
Just wanted to point out that Guy opens Gates much faster than Lee.

He's also jumped off of his turtle summon to incredible lengths. Combine that with speed and Gaara shouldn't be able to get very high.
KB threw him up there though.

Midnight789
07-29-2011, 12:09 PM
KB threw him up there though.

Thats does not compare to him jumping off the turtle ... Combined that with speed and there is no way Gaara is getting away..

Midnight789
07-29-2011, 12:10 PM
and whats stopping Guy from just dodging the incoming sand in the first place.. he can do that in base form

[Shikamaru]
07-29-2011, 12:10 PM
and whats stopping Guy from just dodging the incoming sand in the first place.. he can do that in base form
Uh?

Sand Burial?

You know, the landscaping switcher. Where he buries his opponents under millions of gallons of pressurized minerals.

Midnight789
07-29-2011, 12:11 PM
if Gai cant reach him.. Im Sure his Afternoon Tiger can!!!

Midnight789
07-29-2011, 12:11 PM
;5309773']Uh?

Sand Burial?

he can dodge that

and that requires prep with Gaara does not have at the moment

[Shikamaru]
07-29-2011, 12:12 PM
he can dodge that
Doubt it.

It changes the landscape.

He's not that fast in base.

Midnight789
07-29-2011, 12:15 PM
;5309787']Doubt it.

It changes the landscape.

He's not that fast in base.

actually he is very fast in base.. did u see how he knocked the sand away like it was nothing the last time they meet.. Gai just keeps getting stronger due to his training...

also that move barely worked against Kimimro.. Im sure 7th gate Guy can break out and give him a morning peacock

Inuyasha
07-29-2011, 12:16 PM
I said this in another thread but Gaara can just use Sand Tsunami and then Giant Sand Burial.

[Shikamaru]
07-29-2011, 12:17 PM
actually he is very fast in base.. did u see how he knocked the sand away like it was nothing the last time they meet.. Gai just keeps getting stronger due to his training...

also that move barely worked against Kimimro.. Im sure 7th gate Guy can break out and give him a morning peacock
PTS Gaara, whom was focused completely on Lee.

Anyone could have slapped that sand away.

What you fail to understand is speed is not the factor. He can bury an entire landscape.

Gai cannot counter.

Midnight789
07-29-2011, 12:18 PM
I said this in another thread but Gaara can just use Sand Tsunami and then Giant Sand Burial.

Gai can just blow that away with his afternoon Tiger

Midnight789
07-29-2011, 12:19 PM
;5309813']PTS Gaara, whom was focused completely on Lee.

Anyone could have slapped that sand away.

What you fail to understand is speed is not the factor. He can bury an entire landscape.

Gai cannot counter.

yes Gai can counter with Afternoon Tiger...

Inuyasha
07-29-2011, 12:23 PM
Gai can just blow that away with his afternoon Tiger

How he levels the whole field it's way too massive?!

Midnight789
07-29-2011, 12:25 PM
How he levels the whole field it's way too massive?!

The Afternoon Tiger Blows that crap away.. its wind and air for Gods Sake..lol

Its almost like an Air Bomb thats like a nuke..lol

Midnight789
07-29-2011, 12:26 PM
beside Gai can close the Gap.. 5om is nothing.. did u see how fast lee closed the Gap when they last fought.. i know the distance was way smaller but.. u also have to keep in made that Guy is way faster than lee. and he is at the 7th gate... not the 5th

deidara#1
07-29-2011, 12:27 PM
The whole point is Guy isn't reaching Gaara period.

[Shikamaru]
07-29-2011, 12:27 PM
The Afternoon Tiger Blows that crap away.. its wind and air for Gods Sake..lol

Its almost like an Air Bomb thats like a nuke..lol
It doesn't destroy the sand, simply being, once Gai runs out chakra, since Afternoon Tiger takes quite a bit of it, he'll be buried then.

Afternoon tiger requires him to be in gates, which is exactly when Gaara doesn't bother to attack until it subsides.!

Midnight789
07-29-2011, 12:33 PM
;5309848']It doesn't destroy the sand, simply being, once Gai runs out chakra, since Afternoon Tiger takes quite a bit of it, he'll be buried then.

Afternoon tiger requires him to be in gates, which is exactly when Gaara doesn't bother to attack until it subsides.

wow!..

The Afternoon Tiger Does not require any chakra... Look back at the explanation that Gai gave to Kisame .. ur way off buddy.. its a simple punch but a punch faster than any other.. Thats what he said

Plus Gaara can not react to Gai in 6th or 7th... 5th in that matter

[Shikamaru]
07-29-2011, 12:35 PM
wow!..

The Afternoon Tiger Does not require any chakra... Look back at the explanation that Gai gave to Kisame .. ur way off buddy.. its a simple punch but a punch faster than any other.. Thats what he said

Plus Gaara can not react to Gai in 6th or 7th... 5th in that matter
No need to react.

Sand guard protects him just as fine.

How do you expect Guy to reach Gaara?

Afternoon Tiger does require him to be in gates, no? Once gates are out, he has no counter for burial.

Inuyasha
07-29-2011, 12:39 PM
The Afternoon Tiger Blows that crap away.. its wind and air for Gods Sake..lol

Its almost like an Air Bomb thats like a nuke..lol

Ok let's say he does blow it away Gaara has sand everywhere now! The entire field is his weapon Guy can't keep using Afternoon Tiger he'll run out of chakra. Then Gaara crushes him.

Kuromaki
07-29-2011, 12:41 PM
Thats does not compare to him jumping off the turtle ... Combined that with speed and there is no way Gaara is getting away..
First off can you stop double posting? Just combine what you've said into one post until another person replies.

And second, KB helped him get in midair in the first place. He can only stay up there for so long.

Midnight789
07-29-2011, 12:47 PM
First off can you stop double posting? Just combine what you've said into one post until another person replies.

And second, KB helped him get in midair in the first place. He can only stay up there for so long.

sorry

and thats not stoping him from using his turtle..

beside he can cover 50m with ease.. in 7th gate way before Gaara goes up

[Shikamaru]
07-29-2011, 12:49 PM
sorry

and thats not stoping him from using his turtle..

beside he can cover 50m with ease.. in 7th gate way before Gaara goes up
He has to enter the gates first. Then blitz. By which Gaara is already above.

Turtle doesn't make a difference.

The sand barricade would easily deflect Gai's ascending attack.

Who's to say once he's deflected that he isn't sand coffined in mid air.

Kuromaki
07-29-2011, 12:51 PM
Gaara's sand is still pretty fast, it's not like Gated Guy speed but he should be able to get in the air before he covers 50m. Besides, Guy also has to open the Gates.

Midnight789
07-29-2011, 12:51 PM
Ok let's say he does blow it away Gaara has sand everywhere now! The entire field is his weapon Guy can't keep using Afternoon Tiger he'll run out of chakra. Then Gaara crushes him.

;5309925']He has to enter the gates first. Then blitz. By which Gaara is already above.

Turtle doesn't make a difference.

The sand barricade would easily deflect Gai's ascending attack.

Gai was surrounded by water.. did that stop him from destroying Kisame

What the sand would not even react to his attack. and even if it did.. Gai's Punch or kick is strong enough to go through it.

NagatoGod_of_Pain
07-29-2011, 12:53 PM
First off can you stop double posting? Just combine what you've said into one post until another person replies.

And second, KB helped him get in midair in the first place. He can only stay up there for so long.

I know Killer B got him up there. Guy jumped from his turtle in a horizontal/diagonal direction because he was trying to cover width.

If Guy sees Gaara ascending, why can't Guy simply jump vertically/diagonally?

They both start from the ground. Gaara starts to ascend. Guy sees it, summons his turtle, opens Gates, and jumps to him. Would that not work?

Judging by how far he jumped from the turtle, it would be logical to apply that distance vertically right?

Kuromaki
07-29-2011, 12:55 PM
I know Killer B got him up there. Guy jumped from his turtle in a horizontal/diagonal direction because he was trying to cover width.

If Guy sees Gaara ascending, why can't Guy simply jump vertically/diagonally?

They both start from the ground. Gaara starts to ascend. Guy sees it, summons his turtle, opens Gates, and jumps to him. Would that not work?

Judging by how far he jumped from the turtle, it would be logical to apply that distance vertically right?
Gaara could block him with sand, and he'd likely be in the air before Guy could open Gates, jump, summon the turtle, jump on the turtle, and reach him.

Reacting to Guy at such close range would be an issue for Gaara, but if he protects himself with a sand sphere at all times, and try to keep away. he could win.

Midnight789
07-29-2011, 12:58 PM
I know Killer B got him up there. Guy jumped from his turtle in a horizontal/diagonal direction because he was trying to cover width.

If Guy sees Gaara ascending, why can't Guy simply jump vertically/diagonally?

They both start from the ground. Gaara starts to ascend. Guy sees it, summons his turtle, opens Gates, and jumps to him. Would that not work?

Judging by how far he jumped from the turtle, it would be logical to apply that distance vertically right?

why did i not think of saying this.. soo smart!!

[Shikamaru]
07-29-2011, 12:59 PM
Gai was surrounded by water.. did that stop him from destroying Kisame

What the sand would not even react to his attack. and even if it did.. Gai's Punch or kick is strong enough to go through it.
No, it didn't. However hardened sand is much more durable then a water wave.

It's quite easy, Gaara simply makes a barrier around the direction Gai is in.

Guy's punching and kicking force is unknown at this point, but chances are it probably won't penetrate, which makes that a high percentage chance he gets wrapped up by the sand after deflection. If Gaara adds sand armor to that, Gai can't do much here.

Midnight789
07-29-2011, 01:01 PM
;5309947']No, it didn't. However hardened sand is much more durable then a water wave.

It's quite easy, Gaara simply makes a barrier around the direction Gai is in.

Guy's punching and kicking force is unknown at this point, but chances are it probably won't penetrate, which makes that a high percentage chance he gets wrapped up by the sand after deflection.

GUY'S PUNCHING AND KICKING FORCE ARE UNKNOWN??????

he creates fire with his punches... his base attacks where strong enough to send a ninja falling through a concrete wall with just ONE HAND..

[Shikamaru]
07-29-2011, 01:01 PM
why did i not think of saying this.. soo smart!!
It's not a question of whether or not he reaches him.

He can't penetrate.

@Midnight: And Gaara's sand blocked a direct blitz from R2 Raikage and Amy.

Midnight789
07-29-2011, 01:02 PM
;5309953']It's not a question of whether or not he reaches him.

He can't penetrate.

if Lee can.. im sure Gai can do the same with more force because he is in the 7th gate not the 5th.. u need to remember that

7th>> 5th

[Shikamaru]
07-29-2011, 01:03 PM
if Lee can.. im sure Gai can do the same with more force because he is in the 7th gate not the 5th.. u need to remember that

7th>> 5th
Lee didn't penetrate, he ran around it, because Gaara couldn't ascend.

Lee couldn't even break the sand armor.

Midnight789
07-29-2011, 01:03 PM
Gai has the fastest punches in the show ... Gaara would not react nor will his sand

deidara#1
07-29-2011, 01:11 PM
Gai has the fastest punches in the show ... Gaara would not react nor will his sand

Even if by some miracle Guy summons, opens gates and is able to catch up to Gaara that is plenty of time for Gaara to put up a defense against Guy. Guy has a limited time for him to catch Gaara and he would have to end it their which he is not doing. That is his only chance to win and for you to expect him to KO Gaara in that time frame is stupid.

Midnight789
07-29-2011, 01:16 PM
Even if by some miracle Guy summons, opens gates and is able to catch up to Gaara that is plenty of time for Gaara to put up a defense against Guy. Guy has a limited time for him to catch Gaara and he would have to end it their which he is not doing. That is his only chance to win and for you to expect him to KO Gaara in that time frame is stupid.

whats with u and thinking Gai can not hold the 7th gate for a long time.. he can.. his training is based on keeping the gates on for a long time.. also prolonging the side effects. he can hold the 7th gate for a long time.. we say this when he used AT and then Explain it to Kisame.. he only to it off because the match was over not because he was tired.. He never shows to be tired in gates.. only when he deactivates it

deidara#1
07-29-2011, 01:24 PM
whats with u and thinking Gai can not hold the 7th gate for a long time.. he can.. his training is based on keeping the gates on for a long time.. also prolonging the side effects. he can hold the 7th gate for a long time.. we say this when he used AT and then Explain it to Kisame.. he only to it off because the match was over not because he was tired.. He never shows to be tired in gates.. only when he deactivates it

He has once chance before Gaara is well out of range for him.

Midnight789
07-29-2011, 01:36 PM
He has once chance before Gaara is well out of range for him.

no he does not have one chance.. ur so wrong.. Gaara sand flying tech has not shown any speed at all.. Gai sould be able to reach him... if he does not reach him Afternoon Tiger should.. which would kill or wound him enough to punch a hole in him

deidara#1
07-29-2011, 01:47 PM
no he does not have one chance.. ur so wrong.. Gaara sand flying tech has not shown any speed at all.. Gai sould be able to reach him... if he does not reach him Afternoon Tiger should.. which would kill or wound him enough to punch a hole in him

Gaara would be far out of his range, if Guy does not hit Gaara before he ascends. It has nothing to do with Gaara's speed while using the sand cloud Guy has no long range jutus to do anything after that point.

You are a Guy fanboy, no matter what anyone else says in your mind Guy solos the whole Narutoverse.

Midnight789
07-29-2011, 02:13 PM
Gaara would be far out of his range, if Guy does not hit Gaara before he ascends. It has nothing to do with Gaara's speed while using the sand cloud Guy has no long range jutus to do anything after that point.

You are a Guy fanboy, no matter what anyone else says in your mind Guy solos the whole Narutoverse.

No i am not... Im just trying to prove he will win here.. what does that have to do with being a fanboy... if u thought that someone is better than the other.. u would keep arguing until u prove ur point thats what im doing.. im not saying Gai would win every fight.

anyways

Gai has Afternoon Tiger which has shown to have tremendous amount of range