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Blind Uchiha
07-20-2011, 08:51 AM
It's out.

Cenzo
07-20-2011, 08:55 AM
Great, two more characters for Naruto to pwn for no reason except plot...

Blind Uchiha
07-20-2011, 09:01 AM
I liked this chapter. The flashbacks weren't that bad and the Mizukage looks like he has some interesting abilities. Itachi and Nagato vs Naruto and Killer Bee should be good. I am expecting Killer Bee to just casually transform into the eight tails and destroy Nagato's Chibaku Tensei.

tsuki
07-20-2011, 09:02 AM
Gaara's dad went down kinda easy, but if I remember correctly he was one of the weakest Kazekages. I liked that the other 2 kages escaped.

I never expected Naruto and Bee to run into Pein and Itachi, seems like it will be very interesting.

Also, I like that Temari seems to be getting a lot of lines.

Rasen_Chidori
07-20-2011, 09:14 AM
Well, unless Itachi escapes, we might be seeing a Sasuke appearance very soon. They wouldn't have Itachi be sealed before coming face to face with Sasuke, other option is that they capture Killer Bee and escape from Naruto.

Wooster
07-20-2011, 09:15 AM
Half the chapter was worthless. Don't really care that Gaara's mother actually loved him. Seemed pretty obvious that was what the sand defense was anyway.

Mizukage has genjutsu. I guess that must have been how he was able to defeat Muu. I am a bit torn. I don't want to waste time watching these pointless battles, but at the same time, I want to see what Muu and the Mizukage(when is he gonna get a name?) can do.

Nagato and Itachi battle will be awesome. No qualms about that.
Gaara's dad went down kinda easy, but if I remember correctly he was one of the weakest Kazekages. I liked that the other 2 kages escaped.

I never expected Naruto and Bee to run into Pein and Itachi, seems like it will be very interesting.

Also, I like that Temari seems to be getting a lot of lines.
Well, Oro or even Kabuto took him out.

You mean like "surround them" and "thanks for your help?" :lol:

narulvr
07-20-2011, 09:30 AM
Gaara crieing was kinda sad but oh boy the rematch of the millenium naruto vs nagato round 2, this time even more tnj.

Phariah824
07-20-2011, 09:35 AM
was ok could ave done w/out the flashbacks i mean we have seen thm already pretty much.

woots Naruto n B vs Itachi an Nagato next. wonder if Naruto gonna get a rinnegan an sharringan soon.`:shock:

the kage fight will be interesting as you have a physical fighter an genjutsu user working together. they should be tough.

i would have liked a flash across the battle fields instead of the Garra flashbacks.

Troll Master
07-20-2011, 09:36 AM
That translation where I read it was all messed up. When the Raikage said he needed "Doton" users it should've said he needed "futon" users hence why Temari was there.

So the Raikage has Black Lightning and Raiton Armor. Well the Raiton armor is surprising but he is Ei's Father.

The Mizukage has Clam summonings and Genjutsu. I was expecting snail summonings due to his French based character design. Clams are mostly Italian based but the Mizukage does look Italian a bit.

Muu is owning Onoki. Onoki shows off a new jutsu.

Gaara's dad is sealed away. 2-3 chapters was an okay run.

Next chapter: Naruto & Killer Bee VS Itachi & Nagato

Hando Craap
07-20-2011, 09:40 AM
I'm came home to walk the dogs and stopped to read.Gonna send a link to ya Wooster with the whole thing.

Done and good issue,will come back tonight to comment more c-ya'll later.

Yo_Slayer
07-20-2011, 09:45 AM
Sorta boring... I really don't care for Garaa.
Next chapter will be all the Kages getting sealed and some chatter between Nagato, Naruto, and Itachi.

TheBlackChidori
07-20-2011, 09:46 AM
Gaara cried alot...

Akatsuki Gord
07-20-2011, 09:46 AM
was an ok chapter. the flashback we have seen too many times! looking forward to the next chapter to see the battle between naruto/KB vs itachi/nagato

Shikamaru Nara
07-20-2011, 09:49 AM
It was an okay chapter. Not everything I'd want, but it was good. Flashbacks are always boring.

Wooster
07-20-2011, 09:51 AM
Gaara cried alot...
Exactly. The confrontation with Gaara's father has reverted him to his childhood crying state.

Remember when Gaara used to be badass?

Phariah824
07-20-2011, 09:55 AM
wow just had a thought. will itachi reveal anything about his gift to Naruto during this confrontation?

tsuki
07-20-2011, 09:56 AM
I wonder if Itachi will explain what the gift was that he gave Naruto to help him defeat Sasuke?




You mean like "surround them" and "thanks for your help?" :lol:

Yep:D

Kiez
07-20-2011, 10:00 AM
I thought the chapter was just ok. The flashbacks bored me.

NBT
07-20-2011, 10:02 AM
I highly doubt they're gonna fight.Just lots and lots of talking.

deidara330
07-20-2011, 10:03 AM
Remember when Gaara used to be badass?Depends. On whose definition of "badass"? By yours, of course not. By mine, at the time he had captured three Kage and had already stomped his father, this happening in the middle of a war determining the fate of the world. Gaara, of all people, is certainly deserving of 15 seconds of closure.

Diogonaruto
07-20-2011, 10:03 AM
I loved this chapter. I knew the Raikage and the Mizukage wouldn't go down without showing their abilities`:). Also, I (unlike many people) like flashbacks ( Gaara finally got closure and minimal interest from his father). I can't wait for Itachi and Nagato vs Naruto and Killer B.

Inuyasha
07-20-2011, 10:04 AM
I highly doubt they're gonna fight.Just lots and lots of talking.
Wrong they don't have control over their bodies remember. :ugeek:

So they will talk, fight, talk, then talk some more. :lol:

Poodle
07-20-2011, 10:19 AM
i thought it was good, and the Gaara part was touching. gives a lot of closure to Gaara's childhood especially with his father recognizing and admitting how awful of a father he was. i bet it'll be real sad in the anime.

what is up with Nagato being so weak leaning on Itachi like that? granted i know he was always pretty feeble but i'd think being brought back to life would allow him to be in better shape. it'll be interesting to see what happens with this confrontation....i wonder if Nagato knows Madara killed Konan, he's going to be pissed if that comes up.

its real odd but interesting to see them keep helping the enemy with information trying to beat themselves.

still waiting to see Kakashi go nuts, i swear that tease must have been like 6 months ago :p

Troll Master
07-20-2011, 10:23 AM
Well Nagato might not do anything. The chapter title was Naruto VS Itachi. For all we know he sits this one out while Itachi fights Nauto.

Rasen_Chidori
07-20-2011, 10:27 AM
Exactly. The confrontation with Gaara's father has reverted him to his childhood crying state.

Remember when Gaara used to be badass?
How would anyone feel if they suddenly found out that their mother and uncle who they had thought had hated them their entire life, didn't hate them at all?

Gaara is still badass damnit >.<'' He's still human, he's not a robot.

Noctis Arashi
07-20-2011, 10:27 AM
I only care about itachi. @-@

Finally, Itachi does something.

Noctis Arashi
07-20-2011, 10:28 AM
How would anyone feel if they suddenly found out that their mother and uncle who they had thought had hated them their entire life, didn't hate them at all?

Gaara is still badass damnit >.<'' He's still human, he's not a robot.
An emotionally odd human. Indeed.

Space Cowboy Sasori
07-20-2011, 10:31 AM
did anyone see how big that womans hands are?

by god Gaara's like a sunflower seed in those baseball mitts.

NBT
07-20-2011, 11:00 AM
How would anyone feel if they suddenly found out that their mother and uncle who they had thought had hated them their entire life, didn't hate them at all?

Gaara is still badass damnit >.<'' He's still human, he's not a robot.
Well I really wouldn't care.

I liked him better as a psychopath.

Poodle
07-20-2011, 11:05 AM
Well I really wouldn't care.

I liked him better as a psychopath.


meh i couldn't stand him when he was a psycho demonic kid. he'd always be spazzing out where i'd be like someone put this retard down already:!:

Mini-Chan
07-20-2011, 11:07 AM
Well I really wouldn't care.

I liked him better as a psychopath.
Gaara hasn't been a psychopath in LONG time. Not since Naruto beat him.

Anbu_DAN
07-20-2011, 11:22 AM
im betting SASUKE has to show up!! jst wondering (since i see kishi is into curve balls) if madara jst happens to show up! perfect set up if u think bout it !! itll b final jinchurrikis vs madara!!! ITACHI will tell naruto how to use the gift (if madara takes the KYUUBIi or not)

Jose
07-20-2011, 12:02 PM
I thought it was going to be awesome with the first page saying Naruto vs Itachi.
But it was an Ok chapter.

Nābris
07-20-2011, 12:05 PM
...Am I one of the only people who was slightly satisfied with this chapter. :lol:

Kishi's been dishing out short revelations upon short revelations, but I liked this one. Good for Gaara. His character deserved it.

tsuki
07-20-2011, 12:10 PM
...Am I one of the only people who was slightly satisfied with this chapter. :lol:.
Nope, there are a good number of us.

deidara#1
07-20-2011, 12:17 PM
Tho the touchy stuff between Gaara and his Dad was nice, again no actual fight for Gaara. I'm disappointed hopefully their is a fight between Itachi/Nagato and Naruto/Killer Bee tho I doubt it.

NagatoGod_of_Pain
07-20-2011, 12:40 PM
So Gaara's dad is sealed. Eh, I hoped that we would be able to see a more detailed fight of his abilities. Can he just create gold dust from anywhere?

The Third Raikage seemed to break his seal by ripping his arm through it. Makes sense as he also has Raiton armor.

As for the 2nd Mizukage, did he wet the sand around the seal? I guess this confirms that water jutsu can make Gaara's sand heavier and ineffective.

Please don't tell me that Kishi set it up where Temari will take down the 3rd Raikage. Wind is superior to lightning after all. Killer B and A don't seem to be coming to this fight either. I will be very disappointed if Temari beats the Raikage.

Devy
07-20-2011, 12:48 PM
I liked this chapter alot. Can't wait for next week, gonna be pretty good.

Mikahel
07-20-2011, 12:59 PM
still waiting to see Kakashi go nuts, i swear that tease must have been like 6 months ago :p
I know right, I thought I was the only person wondering this. I want to see Kakashi go on a rampage so they better hurry up and get back to. Wanna see more Kamui action.

Anyway, does anyone else feel we are going to find out what Itachi gave Naruto soon since they have both reunited.

Shooting Star
07-20-2011, 01:19 PM
The "Mommy Does Love Me!" part, reminded me of Zuko from A:TLA, trying to regain his father love. :lol:

Nonetheless, great chapter indeed. I'm pumped to see Itachi and Nagato in action. I'd like to see the conclusion of the battle between Mu and Onoki, though. :/

deidara330
07-20-2011, 01:36 PM
I don't see many people discussing certain aspects of the chapter.

I, for one, didn't know that it was Karura's love that allowed the sand to protect Gaara, nor that that was possible. It's a nice touch, though, regardless if it doesn't have too much explanation.

It was also pretty good that Gaara got to know his mother loved him. Gaara's dad admitting he made a mistake was probably an understatement, but he is dead after all. I wasn't quite expecting Gaara to cry like that, but unlike so many other people here I didn't mind. He did have the other Kage immobilized, after all.

I'm more interested in Mu VS Onoki than Dojutsu VS Jinchuriki. Naruto and Nagato already fought, so he'll probably be fighting Itachi, and that's certainly interesting. But, I'm a little more interested in seeing the true extent of Mu and Onoki's powers, since they've had so much hype. If they hadn't removed themselves from the battlefield tons of people would've been destroyed in the process of their fight as collateral damage. Onoki has been stated a few times now to be the only one to stop Mu, and right now he's losing. Of the five Kage, Onoki and Mei have gotten the least screentime, and I'd at least like to see Onoki have his "one good fight" that every side character in Naruto gets and prove why he's still Kage after living so long. Heck, if he dies fighting, it makes his fight one of the most important in the war for being the first Kage casualty. Also presents us with a Mu flashback: As Mu and Onoki beat each other simultaneously we see Mu and the Second Mizukage killing each other.

Nagato and Itachi have, after all, recieved a fair amount of exposure. I mean, they're both important and powerful, and Kabuto probably has a good purpose for them given how they've been on the sidelines (Naruto and Killerbee probably weren't part of Kabuto's plan since they were the ones to engage the Dojutsu Duo). And, in terms of dialogue, there's a lot of places to go since Naruto's picked up a lot of his motivation from his past talk with Nagato and Naruto's problem with Sasuke is a result of the truth of Itachi. Also, Itachi's gift, as always. But I'd rather see the side characters wrap things up before that happened. The side characters of Naruto all have their own stories to tell about this war, and I don't want to see the story of Naruto continue until Onoki gets his.

But it looks like that'll happen regardless. I've already stated most of what I'm looking forward to: The dialogue and the action. Nagato, among his influence on Naruto, also has no knowledge of Konan's death, and I'm certain he's not doing too well since he died to end the cycle of hatred and war that he's now a pawn of. (Well, more like a knight or a rook, given how he's very powerful and crucial to Kabuto's forces.)

Itachi doesn't know yet that Madara successfully told Sasuke the truth, and Kakashi and Yamato and Naruto. Particularly Naruto. Naruto can talk about how Sasuke's changed since he learned the truth, but he can also talk about how he personally feels about it. Technically, we've never learned what Naruto thinks about the choice Itachi made and the hardships he had to face, finally fighting and dying against his own brother. As a matter of fact, this is almost the opposite of what Naruto's believed, since when Itachi said Sasuke could attack the Leaf and might have to be killed, Naruto promptly responded by saying he would stop Sasuke without killing him. Itachi had a similar choice, but on a much larger scale, because his family was going to attack the Leaf, and there was no other way but to kill them. What does Naruto have to say to that?

Now that I've thought about it, that's probably what I'm most looking forward to in the next chapter.
The "Mommy Does Love Me!" part, reminded me of Zuko from A:TLA, trying to regain his father love. :lol:

Nonetheless, great chapter indeed. I'm pumped to see Itachi and Nagato in action. I'd like to see the conclusion of the battle between Mu and Onoki, though. :/I sympathize.

Poodle
07-20-2011, 02:01 PM
I don't see many people discussing certain aspects of the chapter.

I, for one, didn't know that it was Karura's love that allowed the sand to protect Gaara, nor that that was possible. It's a nice touch, though, regardless if it doesn't have too much explanation.

It was also pretty good that Gaara got to know his mother loved him. Gaara's dad admitting he made a mistake was probably an understatement, but he is dead after all. I wasn't quite expecting Gaara to cry like that, but unlike so many other people here I didn't mind. He did have the other Kage immobilized, after all.

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well it does have a connection to Gaara being able to be very powerful after he lost his Jinchuriki. now its very possible or even likely he's inherited or been given Karura's powers but didn't know it until his father told him.

i thought Gaara crying was completely valid. he had just found out everybody who he thought hated him, his own parents and mentor, never did, and how his father was behind it all. he even had closure with his father after all of the awful things his father did to him and admitted to. if you're not going to be in tears over that then you probably don't have emotions at all. i can't imagine anything else being more emotional to anyone than something like that.




But it looks like that'll happen regardless. I've already stated most of what I'm looking forward to: The dialogue and the action. Nagato, among his influence on Naruto, also has no knowledge of Konan's death, and I'm certain he's not doing too well since he died to end the cycle of hatred and war that he's now a pawn of. (Well, more like a knight or a rook, given how he's very powerful and crucial to Kabuto's forces.)


thing i don't really get is every other dead person that came back to life had to have been in bad shape too when they died, but they seem fine now. where as Nagato seems to be the only one lookinig haggard. but again i guess they didn't show him that much during the Pain arc without being strapped into the Gedo statue. at least i can't remember them showing Nagato walking freely other than when he was a kid.

Wooster
07-20-2011, 02:14 PM
I'm came home to walk the dogs and stopped to read.Gonna send a link to ya Wooster with the whole thing.

Done and good issue,will come back tonight to comment more c-ya'll later.
Danke, but I know where to look. I was just reading raws before hand out of boredom. :lol:

Hando Craap
07-20-2011, 03:39 PM
That's cool.Gaara is still Bad-Ass tho.He just showed his sensitive side.He also showed how much power he actually had without Shukaku.That in itself is pretty awesome.

deidara330
07-20-2011, 04:25 PM
well it does have a connection to Gaara being able to be very powerful after he lost his Jinchuriki. now its very possible or even likely he's inherited or been given Karura's powers but didn't know it until his father told him.

i thought Gaara crying was completely valid. he had just found out everybody who he thought hated him, his own parents and mentor, never did, and how his father was behind it all. he even had closure with his father after all of the awful things his father did to him and admitted to. if you're not going to be in tears over that then you probably don't have emotions at all. i can't imagine anything else being more emotional to anyone than something like that.

thing i don't really get is every other dead person that came back to life had to have been in bad shape too when they died, but they seem fine now. where as Nagato seems to be the only one lookinig haggard. but again i guess they didn't show him that much during the Pain arc without being strapped into the Gedo statue. at least i can't remember them showing Nagato walking freely other than when he was a kid.I think being given her power is more likely.

Agreed. I don't understand how people see this as something Gaara shouldn't have done. This battle has been the most personal battle Gaara has ever had to fight and will ever fight, and at the end Gaara came to the realization that he was truly loved by his family. Some people say he's less badass for it, but I honestly think he's badass just for being able to cry in the middle of a war because he already took care of everyone else.

The people revived get their clothing and lose their dying injuries, but the thing about Nagato is that he couldn't walk for so much of his life. The DNA Kabuto took should've fixed that, but I guess it's just a permanent thing, like a Kekkei Genkai.

Kakashi Hatake_Yamato
07-20-2011, 04:35 PM
i thought it was a nice chapter
gaara and his father
and nagato and itachi finally meets up with bee and naruto

Jutsu Junkie
07-20-2011, 05:52 PM
THE GOOD: I liked how we finally get to see a Dust Release battle; I'm looking forward to the further development of this confrontation. The damage to the desert was awesome. Mu is obviously badass, although I can see how the Second Mizukage, being a genjutsu specialist, could've beat him. I also like how certain mysteries concerning Itachi might come to light soon (for instance, his gift to Naruto). And perhaps soon we will see Sasuke back in action (although really I doubt it). I think Bee might go down here, which would fit into my theory concerning Naruto (namely, that he will eventually become the bijuu's jinchuuriki).

THE BAD: The flashbacks, they burnz! Gollum!

THE UGLY: Not part of the story, but in one of the intro color pages, why was Sakura watering watermelons in a bin with some empty soda bottles? Does that make sense to anyone? No? I didn't think so.

Hando Craap
07-20-2011, 06:02 PM
THE GOOD: I liked how we finally get to see a Dust Release battle; I'm looking forward to the further development of this confrontation. The damage to the desert was awesome. Mu is obviously badass, although I can see how the Tsuchikage, being a genjutsu specialist, could've beat him. I also like how certain mysteries concerning Itachi might come to light soon (for instance, his gift to Naruto). And perhaps soon we will see Sasuke back in action (although really I doubt it). I think Bee might go down here, which would fit into my theory concerning Naruto (namely, that he will eventually become the bijuu's jinchuuriki).

THE BAD: The flashbacks, they burnz! Gollum!

THE UGLY: Not part of the story, but in one of the intro color pages, why was Sakura watering watermelons in a bin with some empty soda bottles? Does that make sense to anyone? No? I didn't think so.

Yeah I've been thinking about the Naruto/Bijuu and that is a huge possibility.Or Naruto just imprisons them all in a secret location using a space time type jutsu.
Never noticed the water tho...lol

And I saw a color page of Naruto and Gamabunta that was pretty sweet!

mrsticky005
07-20-2011, 06:04 PM
You know what sucked about this chapter?

The cover page!

WHERE'S SAI SHAFT!?

They got the cockroach traitor Sasuke but no Sai Shaft?

OUTRAGEOUS!

Kiez
07-20-2011, 06:05 PM
I think being given her power is more likely.

Agreed. I don't understand how people see this as something Gaara shouldn't have done. This battle has been the most personal battle Gaara has ever had to fight and will ever fight, and at the end Gaara came to the realization that he was truly loved by his family. Some people say he's less badass for it, but I honestly think he's badass just for being able to cry in the middle of a war because he already took care of everyone else.

The people revived get their clothing and lose their dying injuries, but the thing about Nagato is that he couldn't walk for so much of his life. The DNA Kabuto took should've fixed that, but I guess it's just a permanent thing, like a Kekkei Genkai.

I prefer it when characters show their emotions. Especially someone like Gaara and what he has been through. I think hes more badass because of it and what he done during the current battle.

Hando Craap
07-20-2011, 06:09 PM
Originally Posted by deidara330
The people revived get their clothing and lose their dying injuries, but the thing about Nagato is that he couldn't walk for so much of his life. The DNA Kabuto took should've fixed that, but I guess it's just a permanent thing, like a Kekkei Genkai.


Makes you wonder why Kabuto was wanting to examine Sasuke so bad when he made the deal with Madara.

deidara330
07-20-2011, 07:10 PM
I prefer it when characters show their emotions. Especially someone like Gaara and what he has been through. I think hes more badass because of it and what he done during the current battle.That's mostly what stories are all about. There are internal and external conflicts, and the actions made towards resolving both typically have emotional influence behind them. Especially internal conflicts. I thought this chapter was pretty good. Not great, but fairly moving.Makes you wonder why Kabuto was wanting to examine Sasuke so bad when he made the deal with Madara.You think it might have something to do with Edo Tensei?

Troll Master
07-20-2011, 07:31 PM
Tho the touchy stuff between Gaara and his Dad was nice, again no actual fight for Gaara. I'm disappointed hopefully their is a fight between Itachi/Nagato and Naruto/Killer Bee tho I doubt it.

There was fight last chapter and the chapter before that.

mrsticky005
07-20-2011, 07:58 PM
So is the chapter cover supposed to be a hint?


Still I'm irked that Sai Shaft is not pictured in it (He has his name written on the paper but c'mon give him a background shot at the very least. Sai Shaft deserves to be a member of Team 7 FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR more than Sasuke does.)

Hando Craap
07-20-2011, 08:05 PM
That's mostly what stories are all about. There are internal and external conflicts, and the actions made towards resolving both typically have emotional influence behind them. Especially internal conflicts. I thought this chapter was pretty good. Not great, but fairly moving.

You think it might have something to do with Edo Tensei?

No I think it's got something to do with Orochimaru

NagatoGod_of_Pain
07-20-2011, 08:12 PM
So is the chapter cover supposed to be a hint?


Still I'm irked that Sai Shaft is not pictured in it (He has his name written on the paper but c'mon give him a background shot at the very least. Sai Shaft deserves to be a member of Team 7 FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR more than Sasuke does.)

It's sad that his name's not even on that piece of paper. It says (Sa) and (Na), which I'm sure stands for Sasuke and Naruto. What a shame that Kishi puts Sasuke back in a picture with Team 7, but who knows, maybe he's implying that Sasuke will come back.

He does love his Uchiha's.

mrsticky005
07-20-2011, 08:16 PM
It's sad that his name's not even on that piece of paper. It says (Sa) and (Na), which I'm sure stands for Sasuke and Naruto. What a shame that Kishi puts Sasuke back in a picture with Team 7, but who knows, maybe he's implying that Sasuke will come back.

He does love his Uchiha's.


Dang it! I think you're right.

OK WORST COVER PAGE EVER!

Yeah I think he might be.

But what happens to Sai Shaft? Will he still be Team 7?

Perhaps Sai Shaft becomes leader of the Foundation?

Squall
07-20-2011, 08:19 PM
Itachi will put Naruto in a world of pain with Tsukuyomi.....making him believe he is fighting, or pinned down like B was against Sasuke's MS. This is only used for a distraction to take B.

The Kyubbi may or may not help him here. After he wakes up, B's gone/dead.

This has to be where B goes down.......surely.

jesse uzumaki
07-20-2011, 08:25 PM
this chapter was amazing and as for people saying he not badass anymore. oh please he better ninja now than he was a little kid and he killed his father with ease. not to mention all the kages in the world have massive respect for him and no one sees him as a monster anymore so get over it.

as for the naruto and killer bee vs itachi and nagato battle I think naruto is going to reveal everything what sasuke has been up too since his death and itachi is going to reveal all of his plans to naruto and about his gift to naruto. plus maybe a lot of info about madara uchiha.

i think I alot of things missing about the uchiha clan and the mystery sorrounding madara uchiha will finally be revealed. in the next few chapters. since i bet itachi will know the most about madara uchiha.

I agree with the others I do think they might be the end of killer bee when itachi and nagato battle with killer bee and naruto. you have to be fool to think itachi and nagato won't stand a chance against naruto. they be a troublesome for naruto and bee for sure.

I do hope somehow itachi and nagato escape from kabuto jutsu edo tensie and every jutsu has a flaw.

itachi cannot die again before he meets sasuke. I do believe sasuke is going to show up very soon.

mrsticky005
07-20-2011, 08:28 PM
Itachi and Nagato won't kill Killer Bee.

Rock Lee will. }:?{D


Or at least Madara

jesse uzumaki
07-20-2011, 08:31 PM
So is the chapter cover supposed to be a hint?


Still I'm irked that Sai Shaft is not pictured in it (He has his name written on the paper but c'mon give him a background shot at the very least. Sai Shaft deserves to be a member of Team 7 FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR more than Sasuke does.)

regardless if sasuke turns good again he has done too many crimes to be trusted by the leaf village people and other villages. sorry but naruto and sakura when they hear sasuke is good guy again there going to be biased and say OMG welcome back sasuke!!!!!! and they forget about everybody esle and everybody else is going to talk so much smack about sasuke and kick him out of the village by force which comes to the conclusion no matter what sasuke is good or bad he not trusted by anyone other than naruto and sakura.
and naruto and sakura are going to B***** to the villagers that he is a good guy etc.

Jutsu Junkie
07-20-2011, 08:45 PM
It's sad that his name's not even on that piece of paper. It says (Sa) and (Na), which I'm sure stands for Sasuke and Naruto. What a shame that Kishi puts Sasuke back in a picture with Team 7, but who knows, maybe he's implying that Sasuke will come back.

He does love his Uchiha's.

Dang it! I think you're right.

OK WORST COVER PAGE EVER!

Yeah I think he might be.

But what happens to Sai Shaft? Will he still be Team 7?

Perhaps Sai Shaft becomes leader of the Foundation?

You both might be onto something. It reinforces my theory concerning how the series will end (or at least how the present central conflict will be resolved): Naruto will become the bijuu's jinchuuriki, and Sasuke will help him do it (perhaps by helping him take out Madara -- or even doing it by himself); this will have the added effect of reconciling the Senju and Uchiha, to Madara's everlasting chagrin.


Itachi will put Naruto in a world of pain with Tsukuyomi.....making him believe he is fighting, or pinned down like B was against Sasuke's MS. This is only used for a distraction to take B.

The Kyubbi may or may not help him here. After he wakes up, B's gone/dead.

This has to be where B goes down.......surely.

Perhaps, although the Kyuubi could easily be employed at Kishi's discretion to defeat Itachi's genjutsu, as you said. Genjutsu is Naruto's primary weakness, and this may be a clue to Itachi's gift. After all, Itachi knew it was a major flaw in his defense.

regardless if sasuke turns good again he has done too many crimes to be trusted by the leaf village people and other villages. sorry but naruto and sakura when they hear sasuke is good guy again there going to be biased and say OMG welcome back sasuke!!!!!! and they forget about everybody esle and everybody else is going to talk so much smack about sasuke and kick him out of the village by force which comes to the conclusion no matter what sasuke is good or bad he not trusted by anyone other than naruto and sakura.
and naruto and sakura are going to B***** to the villagers that he is a good guy etc.

As per my theory above, if Sasuke plays a key role in saving the world, many or even all of his crimes may be pardoned. This goes doubly if the Raikage manages to kick the bucket, although I admit that's a bit unlikely.

Shooting Star
07-21-2011, 05:52 AM
There are a couple of things I didn't understood.

Firstly, why is this chapter called 'Naruto vs Itachi!!', if they didn't even fought? It should have been called "The Heart Wounds' or 'A Mother's Love' or something between those patterns.

And secondly, why did the Third Raikage told everyone to get back apart from Doton (Earth Style) users? Last time I checked, Earth was strong against Water but weak against Lightning. And Lightning was strong against Earth (and Water) and weak against Wind. Mistranslation, perhaps?

Vivi
07-21-2011, 06:10 AM
Firstly, why is this chapter called 'Naruto vs Itachi!!', if they didn't even fought? It should have been called "The Heart Wounds' or 'A Mother's Love' or something between those patterns.

And secondly, why did the Third Raikage told everyone to get back apart from Doton (Earth Style) users? Last time I checked, Earth was strong against Water but weak against Lightning. And Lightning was strong against Earth (and Water) and weak against Wind. Mistranslation, perhaps?

It's about the Cliffhanger thus hinting they might next week.

Possible mistranslation.
Either that or 3rd Raikage has some secret about his Style.
I am for the second as Temari asked to know more.
Maybe she noticed something wrong.
OR he just loves a good fight.

321zigzag3
07-21-2011, 02:50 PM
Great, two more characters for Naruto to pwn for no reason except plot...

Exactly. The confrontation with Gaara's father has reverted him to his childhood crying state.

Remember when Gaara used to be badass?

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/6/68564/1728748-i_ain_t_even_mad_super.jpg

deidara330
07-21-2011, 03:06 PM
Did anyone notice that "Genjutsu" is now "Yin Element"?

Nick Tasogare
07-21-2011, 03:10 PM
It was pretty much assumed that ever since it was basically said that things like Genjutsu, Medical Ninjutsu and non Elemental Ninjutsu were Yin and/or Yang Chakra. With Yin being Spiritual/Non-Physical, it seems right that someone with more Yin based Chakra would excel in Genjutsu.

Vivi
07-21-2011, 03:12 PM
Did anyone notice that "Genjutsu" is now "Yin Element"?

Yep.

"Yin forms the basis for mental Energy that governs Imagination using that he created Form from nothing"

Nice that Kishi thought about that.

deidara330
07-21-2011, 03:12 PM
It was pretty much assumed that ever since it was basically said that things like Genjutsu, Medical Ninjutsu and non Elemental Ninjutsu were Yin and/or Yang Chakra. With Yin being Spiritual/Non-Physical, it seems right that someone with more Yin based Chakra would excel in Genjutsu.Well, yes, but I don't read the databooks, so I never heard about that in the first place. Regardless, it does make perfect sense, and if Genjutsu is Yin, I would imagine Taijutsu is Yang.

@Vivi: In that case you might want to take that into account in your Izanami theory. Izanagi controls the boundary between Yin and Yang, or Illusion/Imagination and Reality, so how would Izanami oppose that?

Nick Tasogare
07-21-2011, 03:15 PM
Well, yes, but I don't read the databooks, so I never heard about that in the first place. Regardless, it does make perfect sense, and if Genjutsu is Yin, I would imagine Taijutsu is Yang.

I don't think it was in the databooks, but I honestly can't remember where I read it. I think it was during the Tayuya/Shikamaru fight that that came about.

As for Taijutsu being Yang, I don't think Taijutsu would be any kind of Chakra really. I mean the only Chakra normally involved is like, Eight Gates and Strength Enhancement stuff, but who really knows? I'd think Yang Chakra would be more about Medical Ninjutsu, honestly.

deidara330
07-21-2011, 03:19 PM
I don't think it was in the databooks, but I honestly can't remember where I read it. I think it was during the Tayuya/Shikamaru fight that that came about.

As for Taijutsu being Yang, I don't think Taijutsu would be any kind of Chakra really. I mean the only Chakra normally involved is like, Eight Gates and Strength Enhancement stuff, but who really knows? I'd think Yang Chakra would be more about Medical Ninjutsu, honestly.In my opinion, that goes against the smooth organization of things. Since the series started, it's been Ninjutsu-Genjutsu-Taijutsu. If Genjutsu is Yin, then its opposite - Taijutsu - seems like it'd probably be Yang, leaving Ninjutsu the odd man out and the true main form of combat for shinobi.

Nick Tasogare
07-21-2011, 03:21 PM
In my opinion, that goes against the smooth organization of things. Since the series started, it's been Ninjutsu-Genjutsu-Taijutsu. If Genjutsu is Yin, then its opposite - Taijutsu - seems like it'd probably be Yang, leaving Ninjutsu the odd man out and the true main form of combat for shinobi.

What smooth organization? xD

Taijutsu doesn't really even utilize Chakra though. Like, you don't focus Chakra, weave hand seals and then launch a kick. It was totally physical and dependent on Stamina aside from things like the Eight Gates and then Super Strength.

Not to mention, iirc, Yang had the life giving properties? Sounds like Medical, but I suppose it could be the vitality needed for Taijutsu? Idk.

Phariah824
07-21-2011, 03:52 PM
suppose since Yin is mental, could Yang be spiritual? like Edo and the Pain path the ripped the spirit form a body?

Nick Tasogare
07-21-2011, 03:53 PM
suppose since Yin is mental, could Yang be spiritual? like Edo and the Pain path the ripped the spirit form a body?

No, it's physical/vitality/life giving.

Troll Master
07-21-2011, 06:22 PM
It was pretty much assumed that ever since it was basically said that things like Genjutsu, Medical Ninjutsu and non Elemental Ninjutsu were Yin and/or Yang Chakra. With Yin being Spiritual/Non-Physical, it seems right that someone with more Yin based Chakra would excel in Genjutsu.

Yin is spiritual and Yang is physical energy.

In my opinion, that goes against the smooth organization of things. Since the series started, it's been Ninjutsu-Genjutsu-Taijutsu. If Genjutsu is Yin, then its opposite - Taijutsu - seems like it'd probably be Yang, leaving Ninjutsu the odd man out and the true main form of combat for shinobi.

Yin and Yang are part of chakra. The Yin Release(Inton) techniques, based on the spiritual energy that governs the imagination, can be used to create form out of nothingness. As stated by the Mizukage, Genjutsu falls under that category. The Yang Release(Yoton) techniques, based on the physical energy that governs vitality, can be used to breathe life into form. Naruto's Nine Tails Chakra Mode is made only of Yang chakra thus it emits life force which caused Yamato's Wood Style totems and Zetsus(which are enhanced with Yamato's DNA and Wood Style) to turn into trees. Yin and Yang are the extra chakra natures that everyone has By altering ones basic chakra to form an new elemental nature elemental ninjutsu can be used. Through the manipulation of both Yin-Yang non-elemental ninjutsu is formed like Tayuya's spirit worms were forms of spiritual energy that have small amounts of physical energy, thus they require stability and feed upon the physical energy they lack. Shikamaru also mentioned that Tayuya was the same type of ninja as he is, being able to use such kinds of "special chakra" in battle, supporting the belief that the Nara Clan's shadow-based jutsu is also Yin and Yang-based. The transformation of the Yin and Yang has to do with altering the amounts of and balance between spiritual and physical energy in chakra. Yin is used to give an object spiritual form from nothiness and then used with Yang adds life into that object making physical. Yin used by itself can produce Genjutsu while Yang used by itself can produce medical ninjutsu and other ninjutsu.

suppose since Yin is mental, could Yang be spiritual? like Edo and the Pain path the ripped the spirit form a body?

Yin is spiritual and Yang is physical.

Nick Tasogare
07-21-2011, 06:24 PM
@Your reply to D330, nice copy paste xD But that's basically what I was saying, just didn't want the reaction of "Lol Narutopedia :roll:"

Might_GAI
07-21-2011, 07:45 PM
does anyone know when the anime version of naruto vs the kyuubi is gonna be out :eek: its one of the best/ funniest parts in naruto shippuden.

Squall
07-21-2011, 08:49 PM
does anyone know when the anime version of naruto vs the kyuubi is gonna be out :eek: its one of the best/ funniest parts in naruto shippuden.


This will be around 5+ episodes away. They need to go to the hidden Turtle island, naruto needs to beat his evil side, and then it'll happen.

give it around a month or two

uzumaki_barrage
07-22-2011, 07:57 AM
these reunions are becoming very contrived, the only one i actually felt a bit emotional reading was with Asuma.

next chapter should have some good stuff, hopefully not too much fighting with naruto and itachi/nagato - i would be more interested in things being revealed.

Graceland
07-22-2011, 08:26 AM
This will be around 5+ episodes away. They need to go to the hidden Turtle island, naruto needs to beat his evil side, and then it'll happen.

give it around a month or two

Might be earlier, depending on if they use more than 1 chapter for the Episodes, or if they use more. Also, from what i've heard, the next Thursday we'll se a DOUBLE-Episode, YAY! :D But yeah, you're most likely right tho :)

deidara330
07-22-2011, 11:21 AM
@Your reply to D330, nice copy paste xD But that's basically what I was saying, just didn't want the reaction of "Lol Narutopedia :roll:"I still found it helpful. It confused me a little because it hasn't received as much emphasis as the other forms of jutsu and elemental releases.

Madara Uchia10
07-22-2011, 06:08 PM
What will be the gift itachi gives naruto. when will the next magna be online

Nick Tasogare
07-22-2011, 06:12 PM
I still found it helpful. It confused me a little because it hasn't received as much emphasis as the other forms of jutsu and elemental releases.

Yea the only real details on it has been what Shikamaru said and what the Second Mizukage referred to his Genjutsu as, but even then you need to make your own inferences based on other things.

Slack 40
07-22-2011, 08:44 PM
so far all the battles besides madaras first appearance on the battlefield have been a big disappointment for me
not expecting much from itachi and nagato right now but i'd hope it'll be a good fight

Madara Uchia10
07-22-2011, 09:16 PM
tHE Nagato and itachi v. naruto and b will be the best fight in the magna besides madara v. naruto

Xibitz360
07-22-2011, 10:56 PM
Damn...Nagato & Itachi vs Naruto & Killer Bee....this is gonna be Sick!! (unless kishi does otherwise). Definitely the highlight of the chapter besides the truth concerning Gaara. :)

lolitaninja
07-23-2011, 01:15 AM
So Gaara's dad is sealed. Eh, I hoped that we would be able to see a more detailed fight of his abilities. Can he just create gold dust from anywhere?

The Third Raikage seemed to break his seal by ripping his arm through it. Makes sense as he also has Raiton armor.

As for the 2nd Mizukage, did he wet the sand around the seal? I guess this confirms that water jutsu can make Gaara's sand heavier and ineffective.

Please don't tell me that Kishi set it up where Temari will take down the 3rd Raikage. Wind is superior to lightning after all. Killer B and A don't seem to be coming to this fight either. I will be very disappointed if Temari beats the Raikage.

Sounds like someone's sexist and doesn't want a female to defeat a man!:evil: Is that it?!

Ultimate combatant
07-23-2011, 02:48 AM
Sounds like someone's sexist and doesn't want a female to defeat a man!:evil: Is that it?!

No, he probably means that Temari should not be anywhere even close to Kage level!!! :D

Jutsu Junkie
07-23-2011, 10:08 AM
Was I the only one disturbed by freaky preemie-Gaara? He looked like Chucky's little brother.

Maikeru D. Shinigami
07-24-2011, 01:38 AM
I learned some things from this:

1. Nagato is handicapped.
2. Naruto should lay off the twinkies.
3. Gaara can still fight without losing.
4. Gaara does have tear glands.
3. Gaara was a small ass baby.
7. Gaara's mother was hot.

Might_GAI
07-24-2011, 03:12 AM
What will be the gift itachi gives naruto. when will the next magna be online

Some ppl say its info conerning Sasuke tat will make him change his mind. Or it could be the Rinnengan.

As for manga it comes out every thursday.

InnerSakura
07-25-2011, 12:05 PM
Depends. On whose definition of "badass"? By yours, of course not. By mine, at the time he had captured three Kage and had already stomped his father, this happening in the middle of a war determining the fate of the world. Gaara, of all people, is certainly deserving of 15 seconds of closure.
lol u took the words right outta my mouth. i completely agree. people used to complain how gaara never got any character development. now they complain that hes getting too much. :/ Get over urselves people. just cuz he cried doesnt mean that hes any less ''badass.'' in fact, this is the first chapter since the gaara vs deidara fight where he actually got to show his potential. one of the best chapters ever for me :)

Sparky
07-26-2011, 11:00 AM
No, he probably means that Temari should not be anywhere even close to Kage level!!! :D

So a woman can't be Kage level?

Kankuro has his puppets, Sasori's human puppet, and his mother and father puppets, he is close to being superior than Chiyo.

Gaara is Kage level.

So Temari can't be Kage level if her brothers are too.