Madara's Immortality.

[JashinSama]

He can't die, apparently.

So,
1. Either Naruto will use RasenShuriken on him and he will be a normal human.

2. Madara will turn into a plant because whenever Naruto touches the Zetsus (Mokuton) they turn into plants.

3. Naruto will seal him like Urahara sealed Aizen.

:D

[Defcon]

what i don't understand is. If madara is still alive because of hashirama's cells. Why isn't he (hashirama) alive anymore? Did he got killed or something.

[LiLipOp]

He can't die, apparently.

So,
1. Either Naruto will use RasenShuriken on him and he will be a normal human.

2. Madara will turn into a plant because whenever Naruto touches the Zetsus (Mokuton) they turn into plants.

3. Naruto will seal him like Urahara sealed Aizen.

:D

Tnx, now I don't have to watch Bleach anymore. For Gods sake, use the spoiler tabbbb -.-'

[deidara330]

Tnx, now I don't have to watch Bleach anymore. For Gods sake, use the spoiler tabbbb -.-'You should watch the subs instead of the dubs, since the dubs are about 130 manga chapters behind the storyline.

[zerosameri]

1. How the hell can the Rasen Shuriken undo immortality?

2. But 1st we need to know that, if even, Madara is like the Zetsu. 2-1 he is not; so it's pointless to do so.

3. That is Bleach, this is Naruto.

[EvL j3st3r]

what i don't understand is. If madara is still alive because of hashirama's cells. Why isn't he (hashirama) alive anymore? Did he got killed or something.
It's not just Hashirama's cells. It must be the combonation of his and Madara's cells.....which Hashirama didn't have.

[JazzJunkie4]

Tnx, now I don't have to watch Bleach anymore. For Gods sake, use the spoiler tabbbb -.-'

spoiler tabs don't exist in town bookstore

[EvL j3st3r]

spoiler tabs don't exist in town bookstore
true. but maybe they should be utilized if your talking about another manga besides Naruto. Noone comes here expecting a bleach spoiler. just bc someone is current in this manga doesn't mean they're current in all the others. I've encountered this problem in the past as well.

[Devy]

1. How the hell can the Rasen Shuriken undo immortality?

2. But 1st we need to know that, if even, Madara is like the Zetsu. 2-1 he is not; so it's pointless to do so.

3. That is Bleach, this is Naruto.

When he uses it, the Zetsu Cells turn into wood.

So, if he uses it on Madara successfully we can two things, either the First's cells would try to take him over and turn him into a tree.

Or the cells would be removed from his body.

[zerosameri]

When he uses it, the Zetsu Cells turn into wood.

So, if he uses it on Madara successfully we can two things, either the First's cells would try to take him over and turn him into a tree.

Or the cells would be removed from his body.
I am going to assume you are talking about the 2 one...

Thats the zetsus; this is Madara. The zetsu are all most purely made out of the 1st cells, for all we know. Madara only had 1% of the 1st cells in him.

[zerosameri]

Yes spoiler tabs do exist here.this is how you do one. click spoiler. i promise you it is not a true spoiler. I am just showing that it can be done.Dude, he was being sarcastic...

[MICHAEL^KNIGHT^]

madara is not immortal and naruto or sasuke will be sure to clean his clock pal.

[EvL j3st3r]

Madara had exactly 1% of Hashirama's cells? Explain yourself Zero. :lol:
madara is not immortal and naruto or sasuke will be sure to clean his clock pal. According to the last chapter......I would say he most likely is immortal. Meaning to be defeated, he will have to first be made mortal and then killed, or he will have to be sealed for all eternity as an immortal.

[zerosameri]

Madara had exactly 1% of Hashirama's cells? Explain yourself Zero. :lol:

for all we know COMMA Madara only had 1% of the 1st cells in him.
lmao better?

[EvL j3st3r]

NO! :lol: How do you know it's exactly one percent? All we know is he spliced Hashirama's cell/DNA into himself. We don't know how much or how little.

[ByakuganAlex]

I think the fight with Madara will be much more down along the lines. I heard someone on this say that a new rasengan should be made: the hurricane rasengan, adding to the fact that this is the hurricane chronicles. I think it would look similar to the water dragon bullet from naruto shippuden movie but with the wind shiruken part added on.

[deidara330]

Honestly, I don't think Madara is actually immortal. I do believe that, because of Hashirama's cells and his own strong chakra, he'll never die of natural causes, but if he can lose an arm he can probably die. Even if he's somehow like Hidan, and can feel pain but not die, he can be dismembered just like Hidan, or you can probably even destroy his head.

There's no way Naruto could ever score a direct hit with Rasenshuriken or anything equal to it in power and not kill Madara just because he has Hashirama's cells. Hashirama himself died somehow.

[zerosameri]

NO! :lol: How do you know it's exactly one percent? All we know is he spliced Hashirama's cell/DNA into himself. We don't know how much or how little.I never meant to imply that it was EXACTLY 1%. I was using it as the 'for all we know' type of thing :lol:

[Wooster]

Honestly, I don't think Madara is actually immortal. I do believe that, because of Hashirama's cells and his own strong chakra, he'll never die of natural causes, but if he can lose an arm he can probably die. Even if he's somehow like Hidan, and can feel pain but not die, he can be dismembered just like Hidan, or you can probably even destroy his head.

There's no way Naruto could ever score a direct hit with Rasenshuriken or anything equal to it in power and not kill Madara just because he has Hashirama's cells. Hashirama himself died somehow.
The best reason to doubt it is that Tsunade said it, and she is an idiot.

I think what she means to say Madara can live a long time because of Hashirama's cells, which is clearly true because he ain't dead yet. :cool:

[deidara330]

The best reason to doubt it is that Tsunade said it, and she is an idiot.

I think what she means to say Madara can live a long time because of Hashirama's cells, which is clearly true because he ain't dead yet. :cool:Actually, second best. Common sense would be the first.

Are you saying that to me or the other people in this thread?

[TheBlackChidori]

Use the Reaper Death Seal, and then KILL THE REAPER!!!

[Wooster]

Actually, second best. Common sense would be the first.

Are you saying that to me or the other people in this thread?One in the same.

Whoever wants to read it.

Use the Reaper Death Seal, and then KILL THE REAPER!!!
I would wedgie the Reaper instead.

[JashinSama]

Tnx, now I don't have to watch Bleach anymore. For Gods sake, use the spoiler tabbbb -.-'

1. I did use the spoiler tab,
2. You read naruto manga but not bleach manga? where is your logic?

[JashinSama]

1. How the hell can the Rasen Shuriken undo immortality?

2. But 1st we need to know that, if even, Madara is like the Zetsu. 2-1 he is not; so it's pointless to do so.

3. That is Bleach, this is Naruto.

1. I didn't say undo immortality, I meant he couldn't do jutsu, let alone control the Juubi.

2. Tsunade stated that he is immortal because of Hashirama's cells, which makes him like the Zetsus.

3. Urahara created a new kidou that seals, Naruto is from a family that uses seals as their family jutsu, or whatever.

[JashinSama]

Tnx, now I don't have to watch Bleach anymore. For Gods sake, use the spoiler tabbbb -.-'

The townbookstore is full of spoilers, it says bookstore, so I would assume that it would include other books other than just Naruto.

The show goes on after Aizen. Cool your jets.

[JashinSama]

I think the fight with Madara will be much more down along the lines. I heard someone on this say that a new rasengan should be made: the hurricane rasengan, adding to the fact that this is the hurricane chronicles. I think it would look similar to the water dragon bullet from naruto shippuden movie but with the wind shiruken part added on.

Hurricane = Wind + Lightning, hence ultimate ninja STORM. They named it storm because of Naruto=Wind and Sasuke=Lightning.

If you look it up, a hurricane is a storm. But I'm sure you already knew that, right?

[EvL j3st3r]

^dude.......you like quadripple post everytime! Try the edit button for god sake.

[JashinSama]

^dude.......you like quadripple post everytime! Try the edit button for god sake.

I don't know how to quote each person. Calm down.

[jesse uzumaki]

i don't think madara is imortal whats so ever can he live for a long time yes. but can he get killed I think yes.

if not use the reaper of death seal it kills all. no matter what.

[JashinSama]

i don't think madara is imortal whats so ever can he live for a long time yes. but can he get killed I think yes.

if not use the reaper of death seal it kills all. no matter what.

Nobody knows how to use that Jutsu.

Only the Third and the Fourth knew.

[Anbu_DAN]

or R they the
ONLY to KNOW??? `!:) i bleve urahara and ichi along with GINJO show up and kill kabuto!!
## baby dont fear the REAPER!

[JashinSama]

or R they the
ONLY to KNOW??? `!:) i bleve urahara and ichi along with GINJO show up and kill kabuto!!
## baby dont fear the REAPER!

Just no...

They are the only two. BELIEVE IT>.< DIDYOUSEEWHATIDIDTHAR?

[BlackAngel]

I thought Madara just can't die from age.

[Mr. Hamster]

He can't die, apparently.

So,
1. Either Naruto will use RasenShuriken on him and he will be a normal human.

2. Madara will turn into a plant because whenever Naruto touches the Zetsus (Mokuton) they turn into plants.

3. Naruto will seal him like Urahara sealed Aizen.

:D

How does that make any sense?

[Ookami-san]

1. I didn't say undo immortality, I meant he couldn't do jutsu, let alone control the Juubi.

2. Tsunade stated that he is immortal because of Hashirama's cells, which makes him like the Zetsus.

3. Urahara created a new kidou that seals, Naruto is from a family that uses seals as their family jutsu, or whatever.

Has it ever said in the manga that Naruto is from a family that mostly uses seals? Have you ever actually seen him USE seals at all? Just because the 4th was a master at them, doesnt mean Naruto is instantly a genius with seals.

[JashinSama]

Has it ever said in the manga that Naruto is from a family that mostly uses seals? Have you ever actually seen him USE seals at all? Just because the 4th was a master at them, doesnt mean Naruto is instantly a genius with seals.

They said in the flashback that Kushina came from a family that used Seals as their primary focus for jutsu.

He used a seal on the Nine-tails.

[JashinSama]

How does that make any sense?


Well, let's see buddy, what happened to Kakuzu when he used Rasenshuriken on him? He wasn't able to use Jutsu or formulate chakra in his body.

Now let's look at Madara, he wouldn't be able to use his Sharingan, which means no travelling great distances, and he also wouldn't be able to use (god knows) how many other jutsu he has. He would only live forever without jutsu, making him a normal man that has immortality.

He'd be screwed.

[Vivi]

Well, let's see buddy, what happened to Kakuzu when he used Rasenshuriken on him? He wasn't able to use Jutsu or formulate chakra in his body.

Now let's look at Madara, he wouldn't be able to use his Sharingan, which means no travelling great distances, and he also wouldn't be able to use (god knows) how many other jutsu he has. He would only live forever without jutsu, making him a normal man that has immortality.

He'd be screwed.

Except Madara can make himself intangible thus Rasenshuriken fails.

[JashinSama]

Except Madara can make himself intangible thus Rasenshuriken fails.

You forgot that that only lasts for 5 minutes. So he just needs to hit him around for a bit.

Sure he can teleport right away, but he makes himself tangible for that.

Therefore giving Naruto about 5seconds to hit him with it (oh doesn't that make you reminisce of the Pain fight...)

After the 5min are up, he can throw it at him or plow, it's for the sake of the World anyway, not his arm...

Man oh man, how you guys underestimate Naruto vs Madara...



Do you not remember how Konan fought him?

[Ookami-san]

You forgot that that only lasts for 5 minutes. So he just needs to hit him around for a bit.

Sure he can teleport right away, but he makes himself tangible for that.

Therefore giving Naruto about 5seconds to hit him with it (oh doesn't that make you reminisce of the Pain fight...)

After the 5min are up, he can throw it at him or plow, it's for the sake of the World anyway, not his arm...

Man oh man, how you guys underestimate Naruto vs Madara...



Do you not remember how Konan fought him?

We dont underestimate the fight, because we know that naruto currently cant beat madara, and as for my earlier post, you have me on the kushina coming from a seal-versed clan, but you still havent given any evidence that naruto is versed in seals, the one he used on kyuubi was one minato made, Naruto just used it. And Naruto can only do a couple of rasenshurikens even with sage mose, and we see he cant use rasengan with his tailed beast cloak yet (And I mean the FULL cloak, not the small one-tailed version).

[JashinSama]

Naruto can only do a couple of rasenshurikens even with sage mose, and we see he cant use rasengan with his tailed beast cloak yet (And I mean the FULL cloak, not the small one-tailed version).

I understood and agree with everything else you said, but I don't understand the above statement.

Naruto used many Rasengan on the Zetsus, and he THREW a RasenShuriken at a Zetsu.

Explain how he did that without Sage Mode. Please?

Also, what do you mean by full cloak? he doesn't have access to the red cloak anymore. When he re-sealed Kyuubi, he gained a new controllable form. *the golden form*