Tier Debate: Kimimaru vs. Tsunade

[RINNEMAN1]

Both Prep.

Who wins?

I know I did this a little while ago but I believe Kimi can beat her and go higher. I will argue this point. The past one was for this as well.

[Kuromaki]

There's a thread where the majority says that Kimimaro>Hidan, and since Hidan>Tsunade on the tier list, Kimimaro should be above Tsunade. Unless you want to debate Hidan vs. Tsunade.

Having Katsuyu out could make a difference here though, just sayin.

[RINNEMAN1]

There's a thread where the majority says that Kimimaro>Hidan, and since Hidan>Tsunade on the tier list, Kimimaro should be above Tsunade. Unless you want to debate Hidan vs. Tsunade.

Having Katsuyu out could make a difference here though, just sayin.

Tsunade would probably try to use strength first.

IIRC there was a thread about Tsunade> Hidan.

Either way this doesn't change that I think Kimi>>Tsunade easily.

[Kazumi Saitama]

Tsunade should be higher than Hidan due to Creation Rebirth and Katsuyu.

Solely Taijutsu, Kimimaro would dominate Tsunade. Again however, Tsunade has Creation Rebirth and Katsuyu. When I debated in the Tsunade vs. Kimimaro thread, I stated Kimimaro would win. I do believe Kimimaro is stronger than Tsunade, but not by much. If Tsunade managed to summon Katsuyu, Kimimaro would likely lose. Acid burns bone.

[NBT]

Bone Forest>Oversized slug.

[RINNEMAN1]

Tsunade should be higher than Hidan due to Creation Rebirth and Katsuyu.

Solely Taijutsu, Kimimaro would dominate Tsunade. Again however, Tsunade has Creation Rebirth and Katsuyu. When I debated in the Tsunade vs. Kimimaro thread, I stated Kimimaro would win. I do believe Kimimaro is stronger than Tsunade, but not by much. If Tsunade managed to summon Katsuyu, Kimimaro would likely lose. Acid burns bone.

Which Kimi can regrow.

[Kazumi Saitama]

Bone Forest>Oversized slug.

Acid > Bone

Which Kimi can regrow.

Kimimaro can not regrow skin and organs.

[NBT]

Acid > Bone



Kimimaro can not regrow skin and organs.
He can matterialize through the bones so moving really won't be hard.

[Kuromaki]

Tsunade would probably try to use strength first.

IIRC there was a thread about Tsunade> Hidan.

Either way this doesn't change that I think Kimi>>Tsunade easily.
But she has prep, so she might as well take full advantage of it.

[RINNEMAN1]

But she has prep, so she might as well take full advantage of it.

Katsuyu was a last resort. Default is IC.

[chidoriroar]

bone forest>katsuyu and kimi is definetely faster than tsunade and he can probably tank her hits CM2 GG

[Shikamaru Nara]

Bone forest, GG.

It doesn't help her case that she's the worst character in Naruto either.

She's got nothing to react to bone forest with. And Katsuyu is a slow little turd, so it's not dodging anything. Bones pop her and Tsunade dies.

[Inuyasha]

Kimimaro can not regrow skin and organs.

Skin yes

Organs no

Fact: Kimmimaro was crushed by Gaara's giant sand burial and didn't die because he made and extra layer of Bone and Skin. :ugeek:

Then regrew his skin back before going into his Curse Mark form.

He can be hit by her and just heal himself and he's swift on his feet so dodging shouldn't be a problem he proved that when gaara's sand was able to get him after reaching in different directions to grab him after a while of dodging it.

[Rasengan SageX5]

Tsunade stands no chance. Even if she does have her healing moves, its not like Kimimaro is going to just stand there and let her heal. He's going to get in her face and stab her in the brain. Also, as has been said, if she did manage to summon Katsuyu, Bracken Dance kill her with about a hundred stab wounds to her soft underside.

[Kazumi Saitama]

Kimimaro can easily tank a punch from Tsunade.
Kimimaro is just as fast, if not faster than Tsunade.
Tsunade would only win if she finds enough time to summon Katsuyu, which I doubt Kimimaro would allow.
From what has been shown, Kimimaro has Taijutsu superior to one shot Tsunade. Tsunade would definitely be unable to hold her own against Kimimaro.
Tsunade would resort to Creation Rebirth, Kimimaro would resort to CS2.
Kimimaro would continue hammering Tsunade.
Creation Rebirth ceases.
Dance of the Clematis: Vine and then Dance of the Clematis: Flower. GG.
Considering Kimimaro is unaware of Creation Rebirth, I believe Kimimaro would activate Sawarabi no Mai during its duration before realizing the attack has no effect on Tsunade. I doubt Kimimaro would have enough chakra to perform the attack again. However, I could be wrong.

The End.

[Kuromaki]

Katsuyu was a last resort. Default is IC.
In other words Kimimaro won't use Bone Forest 8|

I'm not saying Tsunade wins, but I still think it's closer than people think when Katsuyu is out.

Anyway I'm just going to move him up.

[Wooster]

The End.
Both OP says prep, Tsunade really can't summon Katsuya?

[RINNEMAN1]

Both OP says prep, Tsunade really can't summon Katsuya?

She just won't use it right away, since iirc default Som is Ic

[Kazumi Saitama]

In other words Kimimaro won't use Bone Forest 8|

I'm not saying Tsunade wins, but I still think it's closer than people think when Katsuyu is out.

Anyway I'm just going to move him up.

People are vastly underrating Tsunade.

Both OP says prep, Tsunade really can't summon Katsuya?

Oh ;);););). o.o

I did not notice that. With prep, Katsuyu would probably already be on the field.

With Katsuyu on the field, Kimimaro loses.

[Kazumi Saitama]

She just won't use it right away, since iirc default Som is Ic

It would not matter if she has prep.

[Wooster]

What if she summoned in her prep? >.>

Never mind saw your other statement.

[Kazumi Saitama]

What if she summoned in her prep? >.>

Exactly.

[Wooster]

What if Kimimaro does his bone field thinger? Doesn't that negate Katsuya in most cases? He can burrow under ground.

[Kazumi Saitama]

What if Kimimaro does his bone field thinger? Doesn't that negate Katsuya in most cases? He can burrow under ground.

1. Requires CS2 activation.
2. Acid burns bone.
3. Katsuyu is very durable.
4. Katsuyu can divide.
5. Katsuyu can absorb.

[Wooster]

1. Requires CS2 activation.
2. Acid burns bone.
3. Katsuyu is very durable.
4. Katsuyu can divide.
5. Katsuyu can absorb.
1. So? Prep
2. Bone like Kimimaro's? It is like diamond. What acid dissolves--the appropriate verb to use here >.>--diamond?
3. Not to super sharp bones thingers
4. Those bones come out of everywhere. If Katsuya divides that small, she will be effectively useless.
5. Bone attacks? She will be shish kabob.

[J-Sun Tasogare]

People are vastly underrating Tsunade.



Oh ;);););). o.o

I did not notice that. With prep, Katsuyu would probably already be on the field.

With Katsuyu on the field, Kimimaro loses.
If she uses Katsuyu ahead of time Kimi uses Bone Forest ahead of time, meaning Katsuyu has to split up then Kimi has the advantage, AND can travel through the Bones.

[Kazumi Saitama]

1. So? Prep
2. Bone like Kimimaro's? It is like diamond. What acid dissolves--the appropriate verb to use here >.>--diamond?
3. Not to super sharp bones thingers
4. Those bones come out of everywhere. If Katsuya divides that small, she will be effectively useless.
5. Bone attacks? She will be shish kabob.

1. True.
2. Kimimaro stated his bone is as hard as steel. Hardness keeps his bone from breaking. It does not keep it from melting. Katsuyu's acid burned through solid stone.
3. Katsuyu's flesh is very malleable. What stops Katsuyu from absorbing the stab by stretching her skin? Have you ever tried to stab something very sticky and stretchy? Katsuyu is not like a balloon.
4. Katsuyu could easily bend and fit between the spaces of the bone.
5. The same as 4 and 5.

[Inuyasha]

Kimmimaro can hide in the giant bone field and pop out and stab Tsunade like he almost did to Gaara can't he?

[RINNEMAN1]

Kimmimaro can hide in the giant bone field and pop out and stab Tsunade like he almost did to Gaara can't he?

Yeah, he can.

[Inuyasha]

Yea so my memory serves me right then Kimmi can definitely hide from Tsunade and still be on offense.

So Kimmi wins