Sasuke vs Gaara

[heroeking]

Location - Where Minato fought the Rock Villages army.
Starting Distance - 60 Yards
Restrictions:
Sasuke-No genjutsu, no tsukuyomi
Gaara-Can only use sand in his gourd. Gaara has Shukaku.

[king kakashi]

sasuke stomps via amatsuro and susanoo

[heroeking]

sasuke stomps via amatsuro and susanoo
??????

Ever heard of sand.......or shukaku

[king kakashi]

??????

Ever heard of sand.......or shukaku
you just added shukaku either way he only has the sand in his gourd wich is limited and shukaku is not stronger than susanoo+amatsuro

[megabbaut]

It doesn't matter if it's limited. It's not like he's gonna run out, he has a LOT of sand in that gourd.

[heroeking]

you just added shukaku either way he only has the sand in his gourd wich is limited and shukaku is not stronger than susanoo+amatsuro

How would Susanoo or amaterasu hurt Gaara?????

[king kakashi]

remeber he can only block amatsuro and susanoo with the little bit of sand in his gourd

[heroeking]

remeber he can only block amatsuro and susanoo with the little bit of sand in his gourd

I know, but amaterasu and susano'o wouldn't do anything to him.

[king kakashi]

why wouldn't they

[J-Sun Tasogare]

60 yards is a good distance for Gaara. However with limiting him to his gourd he can only maybe send three attacks or 2 and 1 defense before he's shot. Plus Sasuke has a ton of stuff in his arsenal, Dragon Flame Stuff, Chidori Blade, Senbon, Shuriken. That's a lot of attacks vs. Gaara's little defensive moves. If he goes into Shukaku Form, Ammy takes him out since it made the 8 Tails go crazy, or he can simply Susanoo.

[Kuromaki]

Sasuke uses Susanoo. lololol

[megabbaut]

Sasuke uses Susanoo. lololol
Gaara keeps blocking arrows and waits until Sasuke tires out, then sand burial GG.

[iDooom]

Gaara keeps blocking arrows and waits until Sasuke tires out, then sand burial GG.
Sasuke keeps spamming arrows until Gaara tires out, then Amaterasu GG.

[Uchiha Sora]

How will Gaara tire out from blocking?

[Inuyasha]

I know, but amaterasu and susano'o wouldn't do anything to him.
Well Amaterasu is called the inextinguishable black flames for a reason :roll:

So sand limited to his gourd won't be doing much protection for long and Sasuke's proved
in the past that his chidori and lightning based attacks get through the sand

[king kakashi]

How will Gaara tire out from blocking?
it takes chakra to block he just has a lot of chkra

[megabbaut]

Sasuke keeps spamming arrows until Gaara tires out, then Amaterasu GG.
Sasuke misses with Susanoo arrows due to blindness, leaving an opening for sand burial GG.

[RINNEMAN1]

Sasuke misses with Susanoo arrows due to blindness, leaving an opening for sand burial GG.

If this is current Sasuke then Ems stops this argument. Ammy can burn anything, so it burns the sand. Don't forget Chidori.

[megabbaut]

If this is current Sasuke then Ems stops this argument. Ammy can burn anything, so it burns the sand. Don't forget Chidori.
We haven't even seen what Sasuke's EMS is capable of. Amaterasu failed to burn into Gaara's sand in the Kage Summit. Which proves that he can block it.
Chapter 464 page 12.
Btw it was the only thing it failed to burn into.
Sasuke even commented that it was still alive and well.
Chidori gets blocked. Ammy>Chidori.
And Ammy is Sasuke's strongest fire jutsu, so Gaara can block any of Sasuke's fire jutsu.

[RINNEMAN1]

EMS means no blindness.

And current Sasuke has Totsuka Swowd.

[megabbaut]

Not shown.

No he doesn't. He only has a Susanoo bow.

[Uchiha Sora]

And current sasuke has totsuka swowd.

lol since when?

[Amano Yukiteru]

Sasuke definitely has the speed advantage and honestly a Chidori Sharp Spear should be able to pierce Gaara's sand.

That failing, Susanoo keeps Gaara from actually damaging the guy since he only has gourd sand to work with, and no way Gaara is tanking Susanoo arrows.

[RINNEMAN1]

lol since when?
484-9

EMS doesn't lose light.

Gaara can't pierce Susano'o. He couldn't even pierce it with Kankuro, Temari, and Darui helping.

[Kuromaki]

Gaara keeps blocking arrows and waits until Sasuke tires out
Prove that he can. The arrows are too fast for Gaara and in the event that he managed to react to them in order to block them, they would simply blast through, since they would be building up power after being fired. Gaara also has a limited amount of sand here.
We haven't even seen what Sasuke's EMS is capable of. Amaterasu failed to burn into Gaara's sand in the Kage Summit. Which proves that he can block it.
Chapter 464 page 12.
Btw it was the only thing it failed to burn into.
Sasuke even commented that it was still alive and well.
Chidori gets blocked. Ammy>Chidori.
And Ammy is Sasuke's strongest fire jutsu, so Gaara can block any of Sasuke's fire jutsu.
We can at least assume that Sasuke is no longer blind with EMS. If he starts out blind in this fight, then that would automatically make the fight stacked in Gaara's favor due to Sasuke's bad condition, thus making Gaara's win illegit. have it your way

Ammy and Chidori deal different types of damage. Sasuke has already proven that he can pierce Gaara's sand with Chidori when Gaara had Shukaku, and that was when he only recently mastered it.

[megabbaut]

Prove that he can. The arrows are too fast for Gaara and in the event that he managed to react to them in order to block them, they would simply blast through, since they would be building up power after being fired. Gaara also has a limited amount of sand here.
Gaara has Shukaku, so the sand shield would be automatic. It doesn't matter if he has a limited amount of sand, it's not like he would run out anytime soon.

Ammy and Chidori deal different types of damage. Sasuke has already proven that he can pierce Gaara's sand with Chidori when Gaara had Shukaku, and that was when he only recently mastered it.
Sasuke didn't pierce it completely. Gaara stopped it midway. And his defense against lightning is much stronger in Shippuden, being able to block Raikage with his lightning armor on.

484-9

EMS doesn't lose light.
That page had nothing to do with Sasuke's Susanoo having the Totsuka Sword, let alone EMS dude. It just showed that it gained a layer of armor, that's it...

[Kuromaki]

Gaara has Shukaku, so the sand shield would be automatic. It doesn't matter if he has a limited amount of sand, it's not like he would run out anytime soon.


Sasuke didn't pierce it completely. Gaara stopped it midway. And his defense against lightning is much stronger in Shippuden, being able to block Raikage with his lightning armor on.
Ooh I forgot about that. Well it still blasts through. And again, the shield might not be fast enough, look what happened with Lee. I know that was in Part 1, but still.

Then why was Gaara freaking out about seeing his own blood? Cause Sasuke's Chidori pierced through the shield and got him. And Sasuke's Chidori was still sharp enough to pierce the Raikages armor. The piercing power Sasuke builds up through Chidori is different from a drop kick from the Raikage.

[RINNEMAN1]

Gaara has Shukaku, so the sand shield would be automatic. It doesn't matter if he has a limited amount of sand, it's not like he would run out anytime soon.


Sasuke didn't pierce it completely. Gaara stopped it midway. And his defense against lightning is much stronger in Shippuden, being able to block Raikage with his lightning armor on.


That page had nothing to do with Sasuke's Susanoo having the Totsuka Sword, let alone EMS dude. It just showed that it gained a layer of armor, that's it...

I just assumed same Susano'o armor meant Totsuka Sword.

EMS wasn't in the panel it was just the armor.

Does the fact that you did not quote my last quote mean you concede?:D

[Uchiha Sora]

I just assumed same Susano'o armor meant Totsuka Sword.

EMS wasn't in the panel it was just the armor.

Does the fact that you did not quote my last quote mean you concede?:D

Armor=/= Sword... The Totsuka Sword is a spiritual weapon that Itachi equipped. Same with the Yata Mirror. I don't think Sasuke will have either because though

[RINNEMAN1]

Armor=/= Sword... The Totsuka Sword is a spiritual weapon that Itachi equipped. Same with the Yata Mirror. I don't think Sasuke will have either because though

Alright, I guess I was wrong about the sword.

But still somebody try to counter my last statement.

Gaara can't pierce Sasano'o.

After the fight with Danzo and Team 7, Madara implanted Itachi's eyes into Sasuke. EMS means no blindness.

Nobody has an argue for my point?

[megabbaut]

Alright, I guess I was wrong about the sword.

But still somebody try to counter my last statement.

Gaara can't pierce Sasano'o.

After the fight with Danzo and Team 7, Madara implanted Itachi's eyes into Sasuke. EMS means no blindness.

Nobody has an argue for my point?
He doesn't have to pierce it. He just waits until Sasuke tires out.

And again: We haven't seen Sasuke's EMS yet! We don't know what it does!

Ooh I forgot about that. Well it still blasts through.
Except the sand blocks it.

And again, the shield might not be fast enough, look what happened with Lee. I know that was in Part 1, but still.
His reaction feats have improved, proving to be fast enough to block ammy even without the automatic sand shield.

Then why was Gaara freaking out about seeing his own blood? Cause Sasuke's Chidori pierced through the shield and got him.
Chidori only got to Gaara's arm.

And Sasuke's Chidori was still sharp enough to pierce the Raikages armor. The piercing power Sasuke builds up through Chidori is different from a drop kick from the Raikage.
That was V1.
A was in V2 when he did the drop kick.

[RINNEMAN1]

He doesn't have to pierce it. He just waits until Sasuke tires out.

And again: We haven't seen Sasuke's EMS yet! We don't know what it does!


Except the sand blocks it.


His reaction feats have improved, proving to be fast enough to block ammy even without the automatic sand shield.


Chidori only got to Gaara's arm.


That was V1.
A was in V2 when he did the drop kick.

Susano'o lasts a long time. Plus when it dies he can just use Chidori stream.

386-9 shows what EMS does.

[Amano Yukiteru]

Regarding the "sand blocked Ammy thing", I'm pretty positive from what I recall that Gaara was the one attacking with sand, and in response to that, Sasuke was the one who used the Amaterasu to defend.

And for those referring to when Gaara stopped Raikage's kick and Sasuke's attack, that wasn't Amaterasu.

[megabbaut]

Regarding the "sand blocked Ammy thing", I'm pretty positive from what I recall that Gaara was the one attacking with sand, and in response to that, Sasuke was the one who used the Amaterasu to defend.
Which proves he can block Amaterasu.

Susano'o lasts a long time. Plus when it dies he can just use Chidori stream.
Sasuke's eyes and body are strained while using Susanoo because it consumes a large amount of his chakra. Sasuke described it as feeling pain in every cell in his body which only grew from prolonged use. (Chapter 466 page 5)

Plus when it dies he can just use Chidori stream.
He can't spam Chidori Stream forever.

386-9 shows what EMS does.
It shows what Madara's EMS does. We don't know if the same applies to Sasuke, as his EMS wasn't shown yet.

[vermillion rage 7]

this is like putting a acamedy student against a anbu, of course sasuke would win

[Uchiha Sora]

this is like putting a acamedy student against a anbu, of course sasuke would win

lol not really... Gaara doesn't suck you know. Thats why he's a kage. Tsunade is an outlier <.<

[RINNEMAN1]

He can also use Kirin.

[Kuromaki]

Except the sand blocks it.The Susanoo arrows have a lot more force behind them than Kimimaro's bones, which took Gaara's best shields to block. just imagine, pulling that arrow back and shooting it at an extremely high speed right at Gaara? And not just one but multiple arrows? They're gonna blast through at some point, and when they do, Gaara's toast. Unless, you know, Amaterasu gets him first, in which case he'll literally be toast...
His reaction feats have improved, proving to be fast enough to block ammy even without the automatic sand shield.Sasuke was the one who used Ammy to block. I was talking about Shukaku btw.
Chidori only got to Gaara's arm.Therefore he didn't stop it midway. The sand sphere is also a thicker shield of sand than usual.
That was V1.
A was in V2 when he did the drop kick. V2 increases his speed. also, blunt force =/= pure piercing power.
Sasuke's eyes and body are strained while using Susanoo because it consumes a large amount of his chakra. Sasuke described it as feeling pain in every cell in his body which only grew from prolonged use. (Chapter 466 page 5)
He used it for plenty of time against Danzo it seems.

[uzamakilives]

this would be a good match now I believe. i am not a big fan of sasuke right now but just like before I do believe that sasuke would take gaara down. Gaaras best defense has already been penetrated by chidori. Sasuke can move faster than the sand. so sasuke connects with chidori which hurts gaara and then makes the move of ammy. I hate Susano. It does nothing but take away so much chakra. if sasuke had unlimited chakra like naruto that would be different.

What do you think of Naruto vs The current raikage? that would be a tough match, he is stronger than the 8 tails. and uses lightning armor?

[Kuromaki]

this would be a good match now I believe. i am not a big fan of sasuke right now but just like before I do believe that sasuke would take gaara down. Gaaras best defense has already been penetrated by chidori. Sasuke can move faster than the sand. so sasuke connects with chidori which hurts gaara and then makes the move of ammy. I hate Susano. It does nothing but take away so much chakra. if sasuke had unlimited chakra like naruto that would be different.

What do you think of Naruto vs The current raikage? that would be a tough match, he is stronger than the 8 tails. and uses lightning armor?
If you want to debate another match then make a different thread, but as for the answer, you might want to read the manga.

[megabbaut]

He can also use Kirin.
Assuming Gaara just lets him prep it.

The Susanoo arrows have a lot more force behind them than Kimimaro's bones, which took Gaara's best shields to block. just imagine, pulling that arrow back and shooting it at an extremely high speed right at Gaara?
The shield he used in chapter 216 page 14 is formed under extreme pressure and is built of the strongest minerals, and because of this, it is virtually indestructible, having yet to be penetrated by any force. I doubt even a Susanoo arrow can break thorough it, and Kimimaru's spear and sword combined is arguably stronger than a Susanoo arrow.

Sasuke was the one who used Ammy to block. I was talking about Shukaku btw.
This still proves that Gaara can block Amaterasu.

Therefore he didn't stop it midway. The sand sphere is also a thicker shield of sand than usual.
If he didn't stop it midway, Sasuke would've pierced Gaara and the shield itself. Therefore, he did stop it midway. And Gaara's sand is much stronger in part 2, and Sasuke's Chidori is still as powerful as it was in part 1. Because if Chidori did become stronger in the timeskip, then so would've Naruto's Rasengan, which hasn't really shown more impressive feats other then Rasengan variats like FRS.

V2 increases his speed.
Along with his power and defense.

He used it for plenty of time against Danzo it seems.
Which was why throughout the fight Sasuke was screaming with pain until he stopped using it at the end. Or why when he frought team 7 Sasuke ran out of chakra and lost his vision, after only using Susanoo for a few minutes.

[Kuromaki]

The shield he used in chapter 216 page 14 is formed under extreme pressure and is built of the strongest minerals, and because of this, it is virtually indestructible, having yet to be penetrated by any force. I doubt even a Susanoo arrow can break thorough it, and Kimimaru's spear and sword combined is arguably stronger than a Susanoo arrow.
Gaara himself stated that he got minerals from the ground to make it, and here he has to use his own sand, so even if he could block it with that, he can't use the technique either way. Kimimaro was also taking his sweet time, so the force behind the stab should be less than Susanoo's arrow, which is quickly pulled back and fired.
This still proves that Gaara can block Amaterasu.Is he fast enough. Is Shukaku fast enough? Because he was attacking, not really defending.
If he didn't stop it midway, Sasuke would've pierced Gaara and the shield itself. Therefore, he did stop it midway.He did pierce Gaara and the shield itself. Note that he can now increase his range with other Chidori variants. Its possible that if Gaara uses the Sphere of Sand, Sasuke can go from using a regula rChidori to Chidori Spear.
And Gaara's sand is much stronger in part 2, and Sasuke's Chidori is still as powerful as it was in part 1.prove it.
Because if Chidori did become stronger in the timeskip, then so would've Naruto's Rasengan, which hasn't really shown more impressive feats other then Rasengan variats like FRS.
How do we know that his rasengan didn't become stronger?
Along with his defense.Where was that said (im only putting the defense part cuz im focusing on sasukes chidori)
Which was why throughout the fight Sasuke was screaming with pain until he stopped using it at the end. Or why when he frought team 7 Sasuke ran out of chakra and lost his vision, after only using Susanoo for a few minutes. Don't remember that, but i do know that he was panting, because he used several other attacks before. And he didn't have EMS so he was going blind

[iDooom]

Assuming Gaara just lets him prep it.
Gaara can't do anything.
The shield he used in chapter 216 page 14 is formed under extreme pressure and is built of the strongest minerals, and because of this, it is virtually indestructible, having yet to be penetrated by any force. I doubt even a Susanoo arrow can break thorough it, and Kimimaru's spear and sword combined is arguably stronger than a Susanoo arrow.
Kimimaru spear and sword
This still proves that Gaara can block Amaterasu.
If he didn't stop it midway, Sasuke would've pierced Gaara and the shield itself. Therefore, he did stop it midway. And Gaara's sand is much stronger in part 2, and Sasuke's Chidori is still as powerful as it was in part 1. Because if Chidori did become stronger in the timeskip, then so would've Naruto's Rasengan, which hasn't really shown more impressive feats other then Rasengan variats like FRS.
CS2 Chidori>>>>>>>>Chunin Exams Chidori.
Along with his power and defense.

Which was why throughout the fight Sasuke was screaming with pain until he stopped using it at the end. Or why when he frought team 7 Sasuke ran out of chakra and lost his vision, after only using Susanoo for a few minutes. Screaming in pain? Not.

[chidoriroar]

well actually chidori and rasengan definetely got stronger, its logic i mean its not like they can be classifiedas hill busters or anything but by logic they got stronger and garras sand by the way hasnt proven to be stronger.
sasuke is way faster than gaaras sand.

sasuke has ems and one thing we do know is that he cant go blind from using it, he rushes towards gaara easily anticipating and dodging his moves, if he really needs to he uses susanoo blocking all the attacks while spammin arrows that probably have more power now since he completed susanoo, not likely some sand is blocking that if gaaras gonna use his ultimate defense the arrow will hit him before that.if gaara goes shukaku ammy GG.

seriously megabaut you never give up, sasuke was still able to move with susanoo and he can spam plenty of arrows, susanoo in his current form willl probably last like ten minutes btw ammy will burn gaaras sand

[iDooom]

We already went over this once. Gaara looks in sharingan, genjutsu GG. If he doesn't Amaterasu GG.
Kirin+Susanoo and Fire+Lightning styles are just overkill.

[Uchiha Sora]

With only the sand in his gourd, I doubt Gaara would be able to do much :/

[megabbaut]

Gaara himself stated that he got minerals from the ground to make it, and here he has to use his own sand, so even if he could block it with that, he can't use the technique either way. Kimimaro was also taking his sweet time, so the force behind the stab should be less than Susanoo's arrow, which is quickly pulled back and fired.
Oh yeah I forgot about that lol. Well even without Shukaku Gaara blocked A with lightning armor on, and with Shukaku his sand would have even more durability.

Is he fast enough. Is Shukaku fast enough? Because he was attacking, not really defending.
That doesn't change anything.

He did pierce Gaara and the shield itself.
Not completely.

Note that he can now increase his range with other Chidori variants. Its possible that if Gaara uses the Sphere of Sand, Sasuke can go from using a regula rChidori to Chidori Spear.
Chidori Sharp Spear is not as powerful as the regular Chidori.

How do we know that his rasengan didn't become stronger?
Manga feats say otherwise.

Where was that said (im only putting the defense part cuz im focusing on sasukes chidori)
It drastically reduced, if not completely negated, damage the direct Chidori from Sasuke. He was barely able to pierce his chest.

Don't remember that, but i do know that he was panting, because he used several other attacks before. And he didn't have EMS so he was going blind
I definitely recall Sasuke screaming when his Susanoo gained the arrows.

[iDooom]

Oh yeah I forgot about that lol. Well even without Shukaku Gaara blocked A with lightning armor on, and with Shukaku his sand would have even more durability.
Not a good durability feat.
That doesn't change anything.
Yes it does. And Gaara was looking in sharingan.
Not completely.
Dude, he was bleeding.
Chidori Sharp Spear is not as powerful as the regular Chidori.
Prove it.
Manga feats say otherwise.
Manga feats say otherwise, of your claim.
It drastically reduced, if not completely negated, damage the direct Chidori from Sasuke. He was barely able to pierce his chest.
Raiton armor basically tanks Lariats. Prove Gaara's sand is stronger. Even with elemental weakness.
I definitely recall Sasuke screaming when his Susanoo gained the arrows.
Are you sure he wasn't laughing?

[Kuromaki]

Oh yeah I forgot about that lol. Well even without Shukaku Gaara blocked A with lightning armor on, and with Shukaku his sand would have even more durability.
It's not like A was trying to pierce Sasuke with his foot, like an arrow or sword would. He was more like trying to smash Sasuke.

How so?
That doesn't change anything.
Reaction speed :/
Not completely.

Dude, he was bleeding.
Chidori Sharp Spear is not as powerful as the regular Chidori.
What's stopping Sasuke from using it after piercing the shield with Chidori, seeing as Gaara lacks to speed to avoid it? Or even using his sword.
Manga feats say otherwise.
Like what?
It drastically reduced, if not completely negated, damage the direct Chidori from Sasuke. He was barely able to pierce his chest.
That's not V2. This whole Raiton Armor defense thing is kind of pointless though since you just can't compare it to Susanoo arrows piercing ability and Sasuke's ability to pierce Gaara's sand.
I definitely recall Sasuke screaming when his Susanoo gained the arrows.
Yeah like once.

[chidoriroar]

susanoo arrow is a super concentrated attack and gaara with only his normal sand that had trouble blocking kimis bone bullets will definetely be broken by a susanoo arrow, sasuke can spam like 100 arrows before susanoo runs out, he also has genjutsu, tsukuyomi, ammy and chidori+ fire style its to much for such a small gourd of sand, gaara cant use his ultimate defense nor can he use wide range attacks like giant sand burial this really should be locked

also the part where gaara stopped A's guillotine drop wasnt that impressive, a susanoo arrow would have way more speed and power

[RINNEMAN1]

There's no knowledge, so how would Gaara know to keep away?

[chidoriroar]

who are you talking to? im against gaara

[RINNEMAN1]

who are you talking to? im against gaara

Me too, it's to help our case.

[chidoriroar]

but what are you talking about exactly?

[RINNEMAN1]

but what are you talking about exactly?

Susano'o